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General 2Box Drumit 3 Forum / Re: latency DrumIt three
October 19, 2022, 05:38:35 PM
There's a lot of discussion about the latency issue on this site, but maybe you missed it. There's a good summary of the things you can try in Lustar's FAQ for SDSE, see the section "2box DrumIt: How can I solve latency issues when playing bigger kits from BFD3 or SD3?" here:

If tweaking the trigger settings doesn't help, there's a possibility that the SD card is bad. In that case, try another SD card that has the "A1" category label.

If replacing the SD card does not help, it's unfortunately possible that there's nothing you can do about it. I tried pretty much every tweak that we could think of, but in the end, I just couldn't get VST kits to play perfectly. I had no problems with 2box's own samples though.
You can get foam cones as spare parts from Drum-tec at least. Maybe some people with more DIY experience can suggest something even cheaper.
Other e-drum systems / Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
September 28, 2022, 05:19:30 AM
I was talking about the sample import only in the context of Mimic Pro. The original DrumIt 5 was a very innovative piece of work and no doubt inspired Pearl and Slate too.
Other e-drum systems / Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
September 27, 2022, 05:01:25 PM
Well, well. Things happen fast sometimes. I had grown more and more frustrated with my DrumIt 3 (as is documented on this forum), and when the new Mimic Pro update and the sound editor were released, I decided that it was time for a change. I had some good luck when I came across a very decent offer of a used Mimic Pro, and I went for it. I'm a very average drummer and definitely no pro, but in the end, the 2box just didn't work well enough for my needs. I will probably keep it as a backup and as an option for a hybrid setup, but from now on, my e-drums will be powered by Slate.

Reading the old posts in this thread, it's interesting that there was talk about the multilayer sample import already in 2017. Looks like Chris K was right all along even though edcito lost all hope last year. :D
If this is happening with the preset kits, your module might have a bad SD card. You could contact 2box support to see if they send you a replacement, or you can just buy a new A1 or A2 class card and copy the contents from the original card. Changing the card requires opening up the module. You can find instructions for that on this forum. While you're at it, you can also install an extension cable for the card so that you don't have to open the module afterwards if you need to change the card again later.
If I understand this correctly, your ride selection in those two kits has been lost for some reason. Go to the KIT-DRUM view, hit the ride pad and then use the dial to select a sample. Then press SAVE to save the changes. If you can't find the ride sound that you had before, maybe you have accidentally moved or deleted it when managing the memory card contents?
DrumIt 5 Hardware / Re: 3-zone crash cymbals
March 23, 2022, 06:28:55 PM
You should also check out Lemon, affordable cymbals with good value.
I have a drum-tec Real Feel on my converted snare and it feels very good. I haven't tried the Pro head, but I have the impression that it is quite loud acoustically.
I admit that I've occasionally considered changing the module to a Mimic or maybe an EFNOTE 5 to get rid of the performance issues. However, even with the built-in samples, the 2box just sounds better to me than any other module except the Mimic, so I'm not giving it up just yet. I'm still quite content with some of the native kits and they're enough for my home practice and the occasional drum cover video.
Quote from: halftime on November 26, 2021, 08:48:17 PM
I had one more thought about the glitching issue. I have lately been using only 2box samples just so that I could play without having to worry about the module's performance. However, I now had a chance to try out some VST samples exported by someone else and there was no stuttering at all. Now, there are two clear differences to my previous experiments: 1) the VST samples are only for snare, bass and toms so the cymbal samples are all 2box, and 2) the tom samples have only one sound, so just head, no rim.

My thought is this: if the toms have no rim sample included, would it mean less processing for the module and hence smaller chance of glitching? Also, would splitting the tom inputs have the same effect? Those of you who use VST kits without issues: are you using the rims of your toms (for rim sounds or something else) or are they split to extend your kit? Does the rim make any difference?

Coming back again to the glitching issue. Nothing major to report, but I have made some new observations. I thought before that the rim sounds might have something to do with the glitching, but it turned out not to be the case. I got to try the same samples as before, but with rims included, and they worked fine.

However, there was one major difference in the samples compared to my own exports that I didn't know about: the samples that work fine were not created with SDSE but manually. So, it would seem that there's something about the SDSE-generated files that makes them heavier than manually created files. What it is, I don't know yet. I'll try to see if there's something in SDSE's settings that might explain the difference when I have the chance.
I tried the PadPS type selection on my snare (which has 3 piezos for both head & rim) to see if it makes a difference, but the result was that the rim sound was lost. I was able to get the rim sound by changing the zone setting from "++-" to "-+-", but then of course the head sample would not play any more. I have a DrumIt 3 with OS version 1.36.30. I don't know if my setup is fundamentally different from using the TrigIt, but at least for me it seems that the PadPP selection is the only possibility for a piezo/piezo trigger.
Quote from: Karbonfaiba on February 07, 2022, 12:09:49 PM
Have you tried SDSE exporting samples from GetGoodDrums? Can we eliminate SD3 as the cause? What about AD2 as well?

I have tried exports from SD2, SSD 5.5 free and Komplete Studio Drummer and they all had the same issue. I don't know if SD3, GGD or AD2 would make any difference.
Quote from: Rere on February 07, 2022, 10:04:52 AM
What do you mean? It is too hard or complicated? Could you explain please.

I've had problems with samples I've exported from VSTs. If you search the forum for the word "glitching", you will find some of my posts about the issue. All the built-in samples work well and they are enough for my purposes, but I'm a bit frustrated that I can't really use the module's full potential.
All three zones should work when you have two stereo cables so that "Bow/edge" is connected to the cymbal A input in the module and "Bow/bell" to the cymbal B input. The pad type in module settings should be CyPSB. Also note that the CY-15R bell switch may not register very light hits so you have to hit a bit harder to trigger the bell sound.
Welcome to the 2box community, Rere. The 2box system is a special one. What I like about it is the compatibility with a wide range of pads of different brands and of course the superb sound quality of multi-layer samples. Unfortunately my experience with custom samples hasn't been very good, but i still think the DrumIt 3 and 5 are good modules for their price.