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General 2box Drumit 5 forum / Re: Need some clarification ab...
Last post by poit57 - September 27, 2023, 07:21:32 PMThank you for your reply. We are looking at purchasing Magnatrack triggers and interested in their Remedy HC-2 controller.
Based on the specs listed on their website, can you clarify which version of the 2box hi-hat conversion module would be appropriate for this controller? It looks like there are 5 options available at zourman.com, but only the ATV ad-h14 V3 available at the US reseller e-Drumcenter.
Magnatrack hi-hat controller specs:
Based on the specs listed on their website, can you clarify which version of the 2box hi-hat conversion module would be appropriate for this controller? It looks like there are 5 options available at zourman.com, but only the ATV ad-h14 V3 available at the US reseller e-Drumcenter.
Magnatrack hi-hat controller specs:
- Universal compatibility - "works with all drum modules like Roland, Alesis, Pearl, and now Yamaha"
- mono TS output jack
- passive power - powered by module output 5V
#2
General chit-chat / Re: Remembering Jman
Last post by UC - September 27, 2023, 02:51:00 PMWell said Slamstick. He will be on the mod list forever, in tribute.
#3
General 2Box Drumit 3 Forum / My latest adventure
Last post by Ritchiedrums - September 26, 2023, 09:20:59 PMIts really cool to be able to play with the control of sticks and sounds of brushes!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3r4H-Tgweg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3r4H-Tgweg
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General 2box Drumit 5 forum / Re: Need some clarification ab...
Last post by ANGR77 - September 24, 2023, 07:30:47 PMHi!
The ATV ad-h14/ad-h12 can use the Zourman ATV hi-hat conversion for 2box and it will work fine with all 2box modules. (From the Five MKI, Three and Five MKII.
Best regards
ANGR77, www.zourman.com
The ATV ad-h14/ad-h12 can use the Zourman ATV hi-hat conversion for 2box and it will work fine with all 2box modules. (From the Five MKI, Three and Five MKII.
Best regards
ANGR77, www.zourman.com
#5
General 2Box Drumit 3 Forum / help with Roland config and Dr...
Last post by HittinStix - September 14, 2023, 08:00:50 PMHey all.
Just wanting some advice on rim and bell triggers on the following config and to make sure i have to pad types right. im using the 2 trs into cymbal 2 and 2b for the ride/ride bell
and the crashes both have a single trs into cymbal 1 and cymbal 3. having issues trying to trigger both rims and bell sounds
V-Pad (Snare): PD-105BK x 1 PadPP
V-Pad (Tom 1, Tom 2, Tom 3): PD-85BK x 3 PadPP
V-Hi-Hat: VH-11 x 1 raw 799-912 pof 186
V-Cymbal Ride: CY-13R x 1Cy CyPSB
V-Cymbal Crash: CY-12C x 1 Cypss
V-Cymbal Crash CY-8 x1 CyPs
Kick Pad: KD-9 x 1 kick 1
Thanks in advance for any help here..
Just wanting some advice on rim and bell triggers on the following config and to make sure i have to pad types right. im using the 2 trs into cymbal 2 and 2b for the ride/ride bell
and the crashes both have a single trs into cymbal 1 and cymbal 3. having issues trying to trigger both rims and bell sounds
V-Pad (Snare): PD-105BK x 1 PadPP
V-Pad (Tom 1, Tom 2, Tom 3): PD-85BK x 3 PadPP
V-Hi-Hat: VH-11 x 1 raw 799-912 pof 186
V-Cymbal Ride: CY-13R x 1Cy CyPSB
V-Cymbal Crash: CY-12C x 1 Cypss
V-Cymbal Crash CY-8 x1 CyPs
Kick Pad: KD-9 x 1 kick 1
Thanks in advance for any help here..
#6
General 2box Drumit 5 forum / Re: Need some clarification ab...
Last post by welshsteve - September 10, 2023, 11:14:40 PMIs the Drumit 5 MK1 kit older than the Drumit 3?
Yes. The original drumit5 module came out in the late 2000s (I think 2008 to be more precise)
The only real difference other than cosmetic is the di3 has a better trigger interface so you can fully use Roland or Yamaha style pads/cymnbals. The hihat is where this is felt more than anything as the original hihat for the di5 left a lot to be desired. You can get a Zurman box which will adapt a Roland hihat for use with the original di5 module.
All the tutorials seem to reference Drumit 3 or Drumit 5 MKII. Both of these models have product pages on the 2box website, but the Drumit 5 MK1 is only referenced in the support pages. Other than the physical controls on the front of the module, the Drumit 3 seems to be more advanced than the 5 MK1, but the naming convention is confusing if that's the case.
It's only the trigger interface, the sound engine is the same on all modules. So 2box sounds can be used on any version of the di5 or di3.
Is there a more updated manual for the Drumit 5 on OS 1.3x, or would any of the operations have changed since 1.24?
yes, I believe the most unto date version of the OS is 1.36. Though there's a 1.40 which I think has appeared on FAME module (rebranded drumit3)
The manual for Drumit 5 on the 2box support page references OS 1.24. There are PDF manuals contained within the "DI5-Content 1.30" download, and they both reference OS 1.24. On the other hand, the Drumit 3 manual references OS 1.32 while the 5 MKII manual references 1.36, the current OS version. I think we've been running OS 1.30 since we first got this module, but we recently loaded 1.36.30.
I am not sure how to answer this.
Does the Drumit 5 MK1 have the same hihat controller compatibility as the other 2 modules?
The original di5 hihat system can be used on the di3 and di5 MK2 modules.
Drumit 3 has a compatibility list showing "Adjustable resistor, active hall generator, or switch," and the current models have a "Hihat B" input for the controller.
Yes, Roland hihats have 2 outputs, the cymbal part and an output for the controller. The original Hihat was all on one cable.
If the controller compatibility is similar, would a TRS splitter adapter cable be able to combine the signal from a third-party hihat trigger and controller pedal, or would I need a Zourman conversion kit?
Zourman box is for use with Roland Hihat controllers/cymbals. I do recommend this, it's a vast improvement over the original hihat system
If the controllers we are looking at aren't Roland or ATV brand, how would we know which conversion kit to look for?
Goedrum/Lemon/Jobeky etc use the Roland style hihat controller. I am not sure if ATV can be used in an orginal drumit5 module. Send Anders a message (or perhaps he'll chime in here with an answer) about this.
Yes. The original drumit5 module came out in the late 2000s (I think 2008 to be more precise)
The only real difference other than cosmetic is the di3 has a better trigger interface so you can fully use Roland or Yamaha style pads/cymnbals. The hihat is where this is felt more than anything as the original hihat for the di5 left a lot to be desired. You can get a Zurman box which will adapt a Roland hihat for use with the original di5 module.
All the tutorials seem to reference Drumit 3 or Drumit 5 MKII. Both of these models have product pages on the 2box website, but the Drumit 5 MK1 is only referenced in the support pages. Other than the physical controls on the front of the module, the Drumit 3 seems to be more advanced than the 5 MK1, but the naming convention is confusing if that's the case.
It's only the trigger interface, the sound engine is the same on all modules. So 2box sounds can be used on any version of the di5 or di3.
Is there a more updated manual for the Drumit 5 on OS 1.3x, or would any of the operations have changed since 1.24?
yes, I believe the most unto date version of the OS is 1.36. Though there's a 1.40 which I think has appeared on FAME module (rebranded drumit3)
The manual for Drumit 5 on the 2box support page references OS 1.24. There are PDF manuals contained within the "DI5-Content 1.30" download, and they both reference OS 1.24. On the other hand, the Drumit 3 manual references OS 1.32 while the 5 MKII manual references 1.36, the current OS version. I think we've been running OS 1.30 since we first got this module, but we recently loaded 1.36.30.
I am not sure how to answer this.
Does the Drumit 5 MK1 have the same hihat controller compatibility as the other 2 modules?
The original di5 hihat system can be used on the di3 and di5 MK2 modules.
Drumit 3 has a compatibility list showing "Adjustable resistor, active hall generator, or switch," and the current models have a "Hihat B" input for the controller.
Yes, Roland hihats have 2 outputs, the cymbal part and an output for the controller. The original Hihat was all on one cable.
If the controller compatibility is similar, would a TRS splitter adapter cable be able to combine the signal from a third-party hihat trigger and controller pedal, or would I need a Zourman conversion kit?
Zourman box is for use with Roland Hihat controllers/cymbals. I do recommend this, it's a vast improvement over the original hihat system
If the controllers we are looking at aren't Roland or ATV brand, how would we know which conversion kit to look for?
Goedrum/Lemon/Jobeky etc use the Roland style hihat controller. I am not sure if ATV can be used in an orginal drumit5 module. Send Anders a message (or perhaps he'll chime in here with an answer) about this.
#7
General 2box Drumit 5 forum / Need some clarification about ...
Last post by poit57 - September 10, 2023, 01:05:52 PMI'm a bass player who has recently started filling in on drums occasionally for my church. As I have been familiarizing myself with our Drumit 5 module through the manual and YouTube videos, I have a few questions that I'm hoping someone can help me out with.
Info about our current setup:
Around 2011-2012, a 5-piece acoustic drumkit was donated to our church. We were sold the Drumit 5 module along with Aquarian Onhead triggers and a Zildjian Gen16 cymbal system to have low stage volume that could be run through the PA system.
One of the Zildjian sensors has a damaged cable, and replacements are very difficult to locate since the system was discontinued several years ago. We are looking at adding piezo triggers to the low volume cymbals and running them through the Drumit 5, but we are trying to figure out if we can make our current module work with the new equipment.
Since the Aquarian Onhead pads also seem to be obsolete, we are looking to replace them with mesh heads and acoustic triggers.
- Is the Drumit 5 MK1 kit older than the Drumit 3?
All the tutorials seem to reference Drumit 3 or Drumit 5 MKII. Both of these models have product pages on the 2box website, but the Drumit 5 MK1 is only referenced in the support pages. Other than the physical controls on the front of the module, the Drumit 3 seems to be more advanced than the 5 MK1, but the naming convention is confusing if that's the case. - Is there a more updated manual for the Drumit 5 on OS 1.3x, or would any of the operations have changed since 1.24?
The manual for Drumit 5 on the 2box support page references OS 1.24. There are PDF manuals contained within the "DI5-Content 1.30" download, and they both reference OS 1.24. On the other hand, the Drumit 3 manual references OS 1.32 while the 5 MKII manual references 1.36, the current OS version. I think we've been running OS 1.30 since we first got this module, but we recently loaded 1.36.30. - Does the Drumit 5 MK1 have the same hihat controller compatibility as the other 2 modules?
Drumit 3 has a compatibility list showing "Adjustable resistor, active hall generator, or switch," and the current models have a "Hihat B" input for the controller. - If the controller compatibility is similar, would a TRS splitter adapter cable be able to combine the signal from a third-party hihat trigger and controller pedal, or would I need a Zourman conversion kit?
- If the controllers we are looking at aren't Roland or ATV brand, how would we know which conversion kit to look for?
Currently only one is in stock with the US seller.
Info about our current setup:
Around 2011-2012, a 5-piece acoustic drumkit was donated to our church. We were sold the Drumit 5 module along with Aquarian Onhead triggers and a Zildjian Gen16 cymbal system to have low stage volume that could be run through the PA system.
One of the Zildjian sensors has a damaged cable, and replacements are very difficult to locate since the system was discontinued several years ago. We are looking at adding piezo triggers to the low volume cymbals and running them through the Drumit 5, but we are trying to figure out if we can make our current module work with the new equipment.
Since the Aquarian Onhead pads also seem to be obsolete, we are looking to replace them with mesh heads and acoustic triggers.
#8
General 2Box Drumit 3 Forum / Re: hi-hat struggles
Last post by DrumingNublet - September 09, 2023, 12:06:02 PMI found a solution. I don't know how useful this will be for other midi devices, but for the DTX M12? This works for my needs
I thought about how the GateTime setting on the M12 went to a full footsplash sound when set to 0. There is also a TRGMonoPoly setting in the M12, and setting this to "mono" while playing the midi note for the foot splash for some reason produces only a "chic" from the drumit 3.
So on the M12, I chose the "HHCL" function and set it to mono with midi note B1. Then I went to the "HHSP" function and set the Gatetime to 0 and set it to the same exact midi note, leaving it set to Poly.
It's not quite how 2box intended it but, I am getting consistent chics and really have to kick the thing to get a footsplash, which typically produces a chic and splash at the same time, but, works enough for my needs as I mostly wanted to nail down a consistent "chic" and full range of the RHH135, and in that regard, doing so via midi from the M12 feels infinitely better than my results trying to use the RHH135 into the 2box hihat inputs.
It is a night and day difference. I can mute the cymbal without playing a chic. I can play chics as fast as I want. There's a specific way to hit the pedal to get a footsplash. I have the full range of my RHH135 with no calibration or tweaking required.
Time to start having fun with my 2box/m12 hybrid kit. It's hard to express how sweet this setup turned out to be, and I've already done the SD extender mod.
I thought about how the GateTime setting on the M12 went to a full footsplash sound when set to 0. There is also a TRGMonoPoly setting in the M12, and setting this to "mono" while playing the midi note for the foot splash for some reason produces only a "chic" from the drumit 3.
So on the M12, I chose the "HHCL" function and set it to mono with midi note B1. Then I went to the "HHSP" function and set the Gatetime to 0 and set it to the same exact midi note, leaving it set to Poly.
It's not quite how 2box intended it but, I am getting consistent chics and really have to kick the thing to get a footsplash, which typically produces a chic and splash at the same time, but, works enough for my needs as I mostly wanted to nail down a consistent "chic" and full range of the RHH135, and in that regard, doing so via midi from the M12 feels infinitely better than my results trying to use the RHH135 into the 2box hihat inputs.
It is a night and day difference. I can mute the cymbal without playing a chic. I can play chics as fast as I want. There's a specific way to hit the pedal to get a footsplash. I have the full range of my RHH135 with no calibration or tweaking required.
Time to start having fun with my 2box/m12 hybrid kit. It's hard to express how sweet this setup turned out to be, and I've already done the SD extender mod.
#9
General 2Box Drumit 3 Forum / Re: hi-hat struggles
Last post by DrumingNublet - September 08, 2023, 11:10:28 AMThat's a bummer. Reading the manual, they describe the hi-hat via midi functioning essentially the same way it does with the hi-hat controller plugged directly into the Drumit 3 but it simply doesn't.
I can reduce the "gate time" in my midi settings on the M12 for the foot splash note but at 0 it results in only getting foot splashes. No chicks, and anything above 0, two chics in a row gives me a chic followed by a splash.
If 2box could figure that out with a firmware update I personally think the Drumit 3 would be perfect for my needs. The thing sounds too good and has too much potential to fall short in this one area.
I may try just using chick and foot splash sounds from the M12 while using midi to control open/close and my bow and edge sounds.. see if I can make that useable.
Thanks for your input.
I can reduce the "gate time" in my midi settings on the M12 for the foot splash note but at 0 it results in only getting foot splashes. No chicks, and anything above 0, two chics in a row gives me a chic followed by a splash.
If 2box could figure that out with a firmware update I personally think the Drumit 3 would be perfect for my needs. The thing sounds too good and has too much potential to fall short in this one area.
I may try just using chick and foot splash sounds from the M12 while using midi to control open/close and my bow and edge sounds.. see if I can make that useable.
Thanks for your input.
#10
General 2Box Drumit 3 Forum / Re: hi-hat struggles
Last post by edcito - September 08, 2023, 07:41:20 AMYes the 2box splash and chick implementation is unique, there's no midi note assigned to the splash but it's triggered by the time threshold of the pedal note. if the pedal it's released quickly it triggers a splash sound, otherwise it triggers a "semi" chick note, semi because it's just a splash sound with shorter decay.I've tried a mimic pro,an efnote and edrumin sending midi to the 2box, all react as you describe, they all trigger a splash and chick at the same time, there's no way to change that in the 2box so triggering it via midi works for all pads but for the hihat is not usable.