Getting tired of the old 2box rack and not wanting to pay over 300 euros for the new mkII rack, I decided to use my old Dixon/Gibraltar and implement some new ideas for me. See the pictures below. No snare stand anymore, and the ultra-adjustable Hihat from Gibraltar integrates excellent.
Mounting the tomholders was a bit tricky because the holder itself could not be fastened strong enough at the bars, it moved. I even splitted one in half when I tightened it to hard! Using a bit rubber from an old bicycle tyre solved it and now they stay at the desired place even when I abuse the toms.
So, now some pictures for preparing this GIG!The new rack with some extra toms and cymbals:(http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/2909/img0597qi.jpg)
Some details with the new Gibraltar hihat-stand.(http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/5115/img0595hg.jpg)
The basdrum has its own tube and can be moved more inwards... The long tube itself is connected at cut of rack-tubes.(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/7920/img0609z.jpg)
Front of the new setup.(http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/8476/img0610kb.jpg)
Labels are so important!!(http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/1410/img0613rs.jpg)
(http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/8382/img0615mf.jpg)
The rack without toms + cymbals. (http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/3617/img0616f.jpg)
The rack is ready for transport.(http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/9247/img0619ni.jpg)
The old flimsy rack. Even the mk2 rack is not as stable as mine ;-)(http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/6064/img0611vs.jpg)
Setting it up and testing for a real GIG!(http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/8210/img0623v.jpg)
(http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/8835/img0625b.jpg)
The GIG(http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/8420/img2273q.jpg)
amazing kit!!! i am jealous mate well done
I get a suspicion :patbat2box: many Dutch drummers go for the 2-Box. :animal:
Interesting that you're using a ddt mesh head on the snare. Why is that and how do you find it compared to the 2box mesh?
Quote from: Murgen on May 05, 2012, 10:49:51 PM
I get a suspicion :patbat2box: many Dutch drummers go for the 2-Box. :animal:
... Some says it s a reflex because of the color .....
@boekhour ... your rack looks great !!!
Quote from: edtc on May 06, 2012, 02:21:59 AM
... Some says it s a reflex because of the color .....
@boekhour ... your rack looks great !!!
;D ;D ;D
Quote from: digitalDrummer on May 05, 2012, 11:23:20 PM
Interesting that you're using a ddt mesh head on the snare. Why is that and how do you find it compared to the 2box mesh?
Because it's white and I want to play with double layer. The original 2box head fell apart after +/- 50 hours playing... It triggers very well and the German supplier is also great.
An other thing I noticed is the huge difference between the mk1 bassdrum and the mk2 version. The first is much heavier and I used it with a "tennisbal" beater. That worked for me. With the mk2 the tennisball became very bouncy, even with a losened head, causing double triggering. I decided to use the old pearl beater with a lightly tensioned head. Now it feels very well!! Much better than the mk1 bassdrum with tennisbal I think. And because the mk2 is lighter it doesnt move that much compared to the mk1.
i never managed not to make it bouncy. i tried also all beaters. and i also used falams as well. with falams, it was bouncy as hell, but you need falams so not to break the mesh. so i used my mothers cloth she made for the kick and now i am fine. wish it was orange. but it is red. as close as it gets
Wow cool looking rack and a great alternative to the lighter weight 2Box rack.
The kit sounds great. You guys rock!
Goed gedaan man. Ziet er allemaal fantastisch uit.
Met welke versterking heb je buiten gespeeld?
This was the Dutch section of this forum, wasn't it.
Quote from: puttenvr on June 04, 2012, 04:31:26 PM
Goed gedaan man. Ziet er allemaal fantastisch uit.
Met welke versterking heb je buiten gespeeld?
This was the Dutch section of this forum, wasn't it.
-- Dutch -- ;)
Geen idee eigenlijk.... we hadden onze einge geluidsman erbij. Heb zelf ook met inear gespeeld.... en bedankt voor het compliment... we zijn op zoek naar optredens, heb jij nog tips?!
-- Dutch --
He guys THX for the compliments. The big pluspoinst for me are. The rack is more stable and I can position the bassdrum more inwards. With the standard 2box racj the bassdrum is placed to much outwards, you dont have the option to change it.
One question for 2box from me.... why doesnt 2box deliver their great set with standarized rack components? Now its a bit toy-like. Why invent the wheel again when there are better racks/aternatives on the market form hardware specialists like Gibraltar?! My rack is a bit heavier, but it can be moved quite easily.
-- Dutch --
Zoals je in onze agenda kunt zien, is het bij Springvloed ook wat stil. De markt ligt een beetje op zijn kont door de crisis. Je ziet weer bandjes voor een paar honderd euro spelen en nog maar weinig kroegen boeken live muziek. Veel bellen en niet te duur zijn, is het devies.
Klinkt toch goed he zo'n 2box set, mooi rack, met dat chrome!
binnenkort ga ik weer eens wat veranderen in mijn setup :drum2:
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By roel2104 (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/roel2104) at 2012-01-21
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By roel2104 (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/roel2104) at 2012-01-21
binnenkort ga ik ook maar weer eens wat veranderen in mijn setup>
groetjes en veel drumplezier,
Roel.
Hoe bevallen 2 kicks t.o.v. double bass-pedal?
To continue in English, a second kick only costs 259 EUR at Thomann (I do have a spare single bass-pedal) where the double-bass pedal I'm looking for range between 350 and 660 EUR (Pearl Demon with the orange looks best on the 2-Box ;) ).
So, a second kick is a serious option. How did you connected it to the Brain? As a tom are different?
If you are short of connections, just connect it with the brain and tom using an y cable like:
http://www.drum-tec.de/tmcable-ypp117-p-271.html
The rim of the tom could be your second basedrum... :). As you can see with my new setup I have lot's of room for a second kick, but I already owned a double kickpedal. But when a clean start was an option a would have bought a second kickpad instead of a double-kickpedal.
Hello Guys,
The easy way is to split your kick input with a Hosa 118 Y-Cable 1x 1/4 stereo to 2x 1/4 stereo that's the easiest way you don't have to split your rim because you will lose the rim function of the tom and that is not what you want.
Use the rim function from a tom for normal use or splitting the rim to add an extra cymbal.
It's easy because the Kick input doesn't have a rim fuction but only 1 stereo input.
see this picture below that's the splitter that I use:
http://www.rubbermonkey.com.au/Music-Pro-Audio/Cables-Adaptors-Power/Converters-Adaptors/Hosa-YPP-118-1%604-Splitter-Cable
I play now with 2x DW5000 Single Pedals It does not only look better it works very well.
Greetings,
Roel.
Quote from: roel on June 09, 2012, 10:15:04 AM
Hello Guys,
The easy way is to split your kick input with a Hosa 118 Y-Cable 1x 1/4 stereo to 2x 1/4 stereo that's the easiest way you don't have to split your rim because you will lose the rim function of the tom and that is not what you want.
Use the rim function from a tom for normal use or splitting the rim to add an extra cymbal.
It's easy because the Kick input doesn't have a rim fuction but only 1 stereo input.
see this picture below that's the splitter that I use:
http://www.rubbermonkey.com.au/Music-Pro-Audio/Cables-Adaptors-Power/Converters-Adaptors/Hosa-YPP-118-1%604-Splitter-Cable
I play now with 2x DW5000 Single Pedals It does not only look better it works very well.
Greetings,
Roel.
So, 2 kicks on the kick-connector ... Brilliant. (Saturday, my brain runs on half power ::) )
Quote from: Murgen on June 09, 2012, 10:55:24 AM
So, 2 kicks on the kick-connector ... Brilliant. (Saturday, my brain runs on half power ::) )
yes you can do this , but be carfull , the input jack is a TRS ( stereo) but only TIP/SLEEVE is connected to the bass drum input .... RING/SLEEVE carries 18V for the led ( present in MK1 serie) ...
so you will need to splitt TIP/SLEEVE ....
Quote from: roel on June 09, 2012, 10:15:04 AM
Use the rim function from a tom for normal use or splitting the rim to add an extra cymbal.
Thats what I use in the setup.