Hihat with other brand cymbals

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i dont remember where it was, i saw it in this board in the past,on tuesday my cy-5 and h-2000 hhat stand are coming finally
so i will put everything in place. all i need is the picture that showed where i should put the magnet. above which specific spot of the hh controller of manfred. if anyone can help...thanx

[Jman]

i dont remember where it was, i saw it in this board in the past,on tuesday my cy-5 and h-2000 hhat stand are coming finally
so i will put everything in place. all i need is the picture that showed where i should put the magnet. above which specific spot of the hh controller of manfred. if anyone can help...thanx

You asked that earlier.... look back at reply 79 in this thread...

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what the hell? i promise i checked this threadtwice before i posted it. honestly. i must be going blind. thank you my friend. logically, on wednesday i will come with a review of the results i had!!!!

ps. does it matter if the cable i use(i need to buy another one obviously) is very long?

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ok my hi hat stand and my cy5 came. as also came my amazing snare mapex black panther sledgehammer. it kills guys

. so i rearranged everything. i put the brain on the left, and so i removed all cables and reput them. everything is fine. only thing i am missing is a piece of scratch tape to make manfreds box stable and put the magnet in place. without the magnet i checked and only zone 8 is trigerring. is that normal? (i guess it is). wonderful thing is that it trigers way better than 2box hh cymbal. though it is way smaller.
one more question. can i now make the 2box hihat cymbal as a china or crash or anything? will it work? and with how many zones?thank you


oops forgot the pics

[edtc]

one more question. can i now make the 2box hihat cymbal as a china or crash or anything? will it work? and with how many zones?thank you

hi BA

Yes you can .... but there is some modding needed .

here is a link to a post on this
http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php/topic,1182.msg11219.html#msg11219

About your hihat stand ... well i guess i have bad news....

As yours dont have a metal plate under the pedal , i guess you ll have some problems ...

    Manfred's box is very sensitive , and even some millimeters movesments  between magnet and sensor will mess the calibration ...

It s obvious your stand will move , even just a bit .. also the box will move because the carpet isnt plane , and because of the pressure when your foot steps harder...

   In my case , even if my hihat stand has a plate , when i move the pedal from left to right ( it has a little play ...) the hh position changes a bit ...

best thing is to build a plate so the detection will be reliable...


Get a magnet , make some tests and you ll understand ...

good luck mate and have fun  ...

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thank you for everything mate. aboyt the plate you say, i can make the bov very stable. its easy. i will glue the box in a place the pedal has. also the magnet can get holdunder the fppt plate!!! it isnt metal, but somehow it gets stuck in some points. ill make itwork easily. a

about the hi hat. i did this. put the hi hat in the place of one of my crashes. first hit i get a crash sound. then second hit and all others, iget a bell sound. or a closed(crash?) sound. whatever i did. then i changed the type from cy12 to many others including kick 2 which gave bell sound. but once i put it back in cy12 type, not ot gives me crash sound all the type.
i hope i didnt fuck the hi hat huh?

so if it gives crash sound(ill use it probably as a splash or a china(prefer the china) i am fine right?
so what type of equipment do i need to mount it to the rack? as the 2box rod wont do as i need a round rod and also what felts i need under it and what rack mount? any ideas?

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there is nothing some tape and some paper wont fix. i put some paper under the foot board to make it even. i put then the magnet and stabilised it with some tape, in the exact spot it should be. because i noticed that if the magnet isnt exactly above the specific place of the board, it should be, it doesnt trigger. also it has to be farely close. i then stabilised manfreds board on the bottom of the pedal wit halso some tape. everything is in place. and trigers amazingly well. i am so happy i did this.
thank you manfred and everyone for the help. if anyone can also help me mount the hi hat as a cymbal i would be greatfull. if i am guessing corectly it wont move right? so perhaps i make it into a china.thanx

[edtc]

try this for the hihat....
http://www.thomann.de/fr/millenium_da_235_rack_hi_hat_halter.htm

for the foot board , try  to use something mor sturdy than cardboard  ... wood or metal for example

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this seems nice my friend and thank you, but if i use this rod it has, then the hh cymbal would be way too low to use it properly. also, i dont have a need for the whole hh clatch mechanism. isnt there a similar clamp that accepts round rods (not the pentagonal rods like 2box uses), and also a long rod to use(preferably with the ability to turn so that i have the cymbal in an angle)?
would be much better. if anyone has any idea, that would be aweosme. ill go also to check in music stores near me. since i will need to buy a new cable for it. would a mono cable do the work i need perhaps? make it play a no chocked sound.? i ask this since someone in the other thread mentioned to get a split cable and use only one of the 2 splitted cables.


about the card board you mention, i didnt explain my self well. the bottom of the foot board has some (dunno how to describe it).
lets call them car lanes divided by iron walls. so all i did is in the spot i wanted to put the magnet, i stuffed the lanes wit hard paper to make it come in the level of the walls. and then i taped the magnet there. everythiung is very sturdy and well!!!ill try to take a picture and show you guys. thanx

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i have to say, the overall feeling is so much better!!!! i cant really describe it. iam so happy
perhaps it is only cause of the hh stand. perhaps the 2box hihat would be as amazing as the cy-5, and all that mattered was the hh stand. i will check this when i return from my trip, but i do like so much the feel of cy-5. even though it is smaller than the 2box hhat. it feels more sturdy.
to anyone who is thinking about doing the mod, GO DO IT. ?? is worth it

[Rider]

Hi manfred , sent u a pm hope u can reply soon

[Manfred]

Hello,

just want to let you know that (almost) all boards are sold. For those whose PM i answered today there is still a board left. But thats it as long as none of these guys changes his mind.

I will keep 2-3 boards just in case somebody needs a replacement. But up to now none of the boards got damaged on its own as far as i know. Just one board that was connected to 48V phantom power by accident.

In addition there are some more boards which work but the soldering of the sensor chip does not look confidable. Don't want to sell these boards because i'm not sure if they are reliable. Just imagine it stops working while somebody is playing live on stage.....

Regards, Manfred

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i want to say, thank you so much manfred for everything!!! hi hat with your borad and cy-5 works amazingly well!!!!
thank you so much

[Drumaster]

Hi guyz!

Just received Manfred's hi-hat board and after a loooooong loooong setting (finding the proper magnet side, setting the good distance between it and the sensor, fixing properly the board etc), I can now say that it works like a charm!
I can't compare with an original 2Box hi-hat as I use the board with a Roland VH-12 but, even if it does not reach TD-20X hi-hat expressiveness, it's quite good and I'm happy with it!

Splash works great also and I get all the 5 sound steps to open the hi-hat.

Thanks again Manfred!

[Manfred]

Hi,

thanks for the feedback, nice to hear that it works good with your VH12! Yes, its still some DIY to find the right distance between magnet and sensor. And also to fix the board and sensor properly.

Regards, Manfred


PS. The number of "half-open" levels depends on the sound you are using. I think most of the stock sounds have 3-5 levels in total from closed to open. But in theory you can also create sounds with up to 7 levels (bow and edge) plus foot splash. The "only" problem is to find samples. I think even Superior Drummer and BFD don't have that much levels.