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Started by Manfred, August 14, 2011, 04:13:29 PM

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Slap the drummer

Quote from: twisted.mellow on October 21, 2011, 03:51:19 AM
Holy hell, that thing is $250 over here!

I don't get it.....  why not just make up a "semi-open" .dsnd file and then you can "dial in"
the clutch from the module.....    no doubt I'm missing something  :)

twisted.mellow

The purpose of the drop clutch is to hit it while you are playing and drop the top hat, for a closed sound for a section of the song. The only thing that is needed to re-engage the clutch is to put the foot down on the pedal. How could I do that with the module?

Speaking of which, it would be nice if 2Box had some footswitch capability or external midi command support...

Slap the drummer

Quote from: twisted.mellow on October 21, 2011, 12:20:49 PM
The only thing that is needed to re-engage the clutch is to put the foot down on the pedal. How could I do that with the module?

that'll be the something I was missing then

Slap the drummer

Yeah I didn't realize the idea was to move back and forth in the middle of a number....
man that's some crazy sh!t.

Mind you, you could make a special file where the 100% open layer was the closed
sound of your choice, then just remember to keep away from fully open inbetweentimes....

Or I suppose yopu cd just buy a drop clutch  ;D

Manfred

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Quote from: twisted.mellow on October 21, 2011, 12:20:49 PM

Speaking of which, it would be nice if 2Box had some footswitch capability or external midi command support...


Hi,

i had a similar idea to use a (foot-)switch instead of a mechanical dropclutch. Maybe you saw already this topic with the schematic and a youtube video:

http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php/topic,592.0.html

Regards, Manfred


Edit: By the way, i thought about implementing this to the circuit board. But then i decided to keep the board smaller. I was afraid that it is getting bulky with another connector for the switch.


edtc

hi

I tried to use a ROLAND PD-8 as hihat cymbal , with Manf'sBOX , and it works great... zone 8 & 4 are triggered fine

Those pads are PIEZO(head) / SWITCH(rim) , just like 2BOX cymbals are ...

You can also use them for cymbals , and choke works also if you squeeze the rim ...

ok , it s not very good looking , but those pads are cheap and easy to find on the second hand market ...


roel

so Manfred you make these boxes at home? what's the price for 1?

Manfred


Hi,

right now i don't have completed boards ready but i still have something between 10 and 20 sets of components. So if you are interested in either a set of components or a completed board just send me a PM.

Regards, Manfred

Manfred


Hi,

since there are a few users who are interested in one of the boards i want to give a short update. As already said i have something between 10 and 15 sets of components left but no completed boards right now.

I need to spend a whole day to complete the boards because it doesn't make sense for me to do just a single board. And unfortunately i haven't had the time up to now. So please give me some more time. I will answer each PM once i have boards ready.

Sorry for the delay,

Manfred

roel

I'll be patient first I need a better hihatstand and then we will see further.

BURNIN AMBITION

i did the opposite lol. first got the board, and i am waiting for summer to get a new h2000 hhstand!!!and i also need a cy-5 btw!!!
2box, bengt, deve, digital drummer, Jman, Brian, Manfred thanx for everything

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Manfred


Hey guys,

today i tried to build some boards but after 4 pcs. i gave up because of a reject rate of 100%. Soldering the tiny sensor chip is really pain in the a... I think i need other ideas how to do that otherwise it is getting to expensive for me.

Regards, Manfred

Jman

Quote from: Manfred on November 19, 2011, 09:00:13 PM
Hey guys,

today i tried to build some boards but after 4 pcs. i gave up because of a reject rate of 100%. Soldering the tiny sensor chip is really pain in the a... I think i need other ideas how to do that otherwise it is getting to expensive for me.

Regards, Manfred
I was amazed you were able to solder any of those. When I looked through a magnifying glass at the A1392 hall effects sensor I could just barely make out the 6 posts/pads!!! That was the point when I knew I wouldn't stand a chance soldering to that with my large, clunky hands ;D I had hoped they made something similar, but with legs like some of the hall sensors, but never found anything.
I could tell you where to stick that piezo! :D ;)
http://stealthdrums.com/

Jman

Quote from: Manfred on November 19, 2011, 09:00:13 PM
Hey guys,

today i tried to build some boards but after 4 pcs. i gave up because of a reject rate of 100%. Soldering the tiny sensor chip is really pain in the a... I think i need other ideas how to do that otherwise it is getting to expensive for me.

Regards, Manfred
Here's a link to one interesting method/instructable involving a toaster oven:
http://www.instructables.com/id/Toaster-Oven-Reflow-Soldering-BGA/?ALLSTEPS
I could tell you where to stick that piezo! :D ;)
http://stealthdrums.com/

Manfred

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Hi Jman,

thanks for the link. My problem right now is not the soldering itself. I have access to a rework station from time to time which makes soldering easy:

http://www.ersa.com/art-smt-bga-rework-346-1482.html

But the problem is to apply the right amount of solder paste. I didn't invest in a stencil for the solder mask which means i have to do it manually with an injection. That was not really successful today. Maybe next time i try in two steps. Tin coating of the board in a first step and the sensor with flux in a second step.

Another idea would be to order the boards with the SMT components already soldered. But this would be a high investment which i actually don't want to do. Remember that this is just a "community thing" and i'm neither a company nor a dealer.

Best thing would indeed be to find a sensor which doesn't even require a printed circuit board. Then everybody could do it on its own at home with a perfboard. Maybe i should think about another solution.

Regards, Manfred