hi hat upgrade path

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Hi there guys. long time since i appeared here. sorry about that.
Well my kit still goes strong. apart from some inevitable crackling of some tom mounts, i think it is great.
Well until now, the hihat i was using was a roland cy-5 with the manfred conversion kit. The one with the magnet you had to install underneath the hhat pedal.
Well this has served its cause to be honest. But my pearl h2000 hhat stand cant reallyhave the magnet stuck on it and it is difficult to somehow glue it. This always caused recalibration to be done very often, misstrigers etc. it is great but once you start to get really picky on what you expect, it is good enough but barely.

6 montsh ago i was thinking about the zourman conversion kit. Mainly due to a new band i was starting. well this faded quickly. But again i have a great band and this is to stay. And we will occasionally practise at my place. I will need hhat consistency. So again i am thinking about upgrade paths. I will need your help to decide

At first i was thinking about vh-11 along with zourman kit. I found a vh-11 at 140 euros. Seems like a steal, but i am starting to think that it is high likely this will be in a not great shape. and i would have to result to diy. which i hate. and i need consistency.
Buying a new vh-10 or vh-11 is my second thought. But this is really expensive and id rather invest 300 euros in other areas.
So, the reason i am writting thsi thread.
Here is my thought and i need advice.
Why not use my cy-5, with zourman box? Anyone has already done it btw, to share the experience?
Cy-5 has bow edge and foot right now with manfred box. so i am assuming this will work as 3 zones with zourman as well, right?
Since zourman doesnt have a magnet, this should trigger better than manfred box right?
My main problem is that when starting to play along, after some time, when having the hhat semi open or open (but especially in semi open position is is obvious), the sound alters a lot. i dont move my foot, i keep it in the same open position, but sound is altering like if i am moving the pedal. i am thinking that this can have to do with the magnet.when playinbg and with vibrations etc, the distance from the box and magnet could micromove hence that sound?

if cy-5 with zourman box can have great sensitivity with opening and closing hhat, and no misstriggerings (they can always happen, but i mean to avoid them 90% of all times), i would buy it tomorrow.
i would really like to read your opinions. if i can avoid buying a vh-11 or vh10, id prefer that really.
Thank you guys

ps. manfred box has 2 plugs. zourman box has 3 plugs. do i need to buy another cable? or cy-5 needs only 2 cables with zourman box? i will get 3 zones with cy-5 right?
ps2. i dont have a fy-8 pedal
Cheers guys

[logihack]

i dont know about cy5, because i have vh11 since may. It plays smoother, compared to original hihat, but i have same problem as you. When playing half open hats, sound is changing from closed, to semi open.... Its hard to find that sweet spot with foot, but its even harder to "lock" that position. Same problem with original hihat.

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thank you for that. it makes me even more sceptical on the purchase.
Btw in regard to the vh11, if i go down that path and get it, is there any common issues that surface that i should check? common vh11 problems you could share? thank you for your input

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Well i dont know if there are any common issues. Im using it with drumit3, so no zourman box is needed.
Compared to original pad, vh11 is quieter, softer and have more rebound. I dont have any hot spots on playable area.
in general, i think my playing improved with vh11. But that semi open sound is killing me. Like i said before, its realy hard to lock hihat(with foot pedal) in position for consistent semi open sound. I have tama tilt hihat stand.
Not much help, but anyway....

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thank you my friend

[ANGR77]

Hi!

Some notifications...

1. From the original post: The Manfred hh box delivers 2box hh signal (power managed by a magnet)
It can be used with all DrumIts as is...
The Zourman Module only converts Roland hihat pedal (resistance) to the same type of power as a 2box magnetic hihat generates.

So you can't use a Zourman module with manfreds hh box. But you can use a CY-5 + manfred box with your  current 2box "as is".

A CY-5 + FD-8 with a Zourman module will work fine also.

2. Regarding the "hard to lock half open" issue...you mean that if you have it half open...it will start to shift to closed by hitting the hi-hat....or is it changing the semi to closed by default even if hitting with light hits when locked the pedal? 
(I can't say that I recognize this issue with my Zourman module for VH-11) This was one of my design goals...when designing the conversion module.

Best regards

Anders / www.Zourman.com

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Thank you my friend so much. This means that i should use zouman box with a vh11. Since i dobt have an fd8, its either i stay as i am, or upgrade with ch11 and zourman box. I am really puzzled at what to do. Have to contain my gak and decide what i need.

As per your question, while i play, after some time of hitting (not lightly but i am not a basher as well, i have proper technique) semi open sounds change by themselves to fully open mostly, ir closed.
i think i managed today to ubderstand what possibly happens. The way i mounted mannfred box is not optimal. And i think probably while i play, the bix is moving towards magnet slightly, thus changing hhat position. And i need to calibrate after a while. So many years i just recalibrated. I think ill need with some diy to contain the box in such a way, that it doesnt move. Difficult but ill try. If i fail, then definitely i need a hat and zourman kit. But if i manage my diy then this could be amazing news. Ill try to post a pic from my mobile

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well i found those iron pieces from pc case that you remove to install pci cards. with 2 of these i managed to mount the manfred box more sturdily. hopefully this will result in better functionality. if this is the case, i cant imagine how stupid i was all these years