Use Almost ANY E Hi Hat or Ecymbal with 2Box / Stealth HH Stand Conversion Kit

[Jman]

Thanks for the Kudos Jeff!

[duckers]

I can also confirm that I am very happy with the Jman HiHat Conversion kit. I am using it with the 2Box HiHat stand and it really improves the cymbal triggering. Jman sent it to me quickly, all the way to Sweden.
Thanks again Jman!!

/Anders

[Jman]

I can also confirm that I am very happy with the Jman HiHat Conversion kit. I am using it with the 2Box HiHat stand and it really improves the cymbal triggering. Jman sent it to me quickly, all the way to Sweden.
Thanks again Jman!!

/Anders

Glad it is working well for you Anders! And thanks for the positive feedback, J

[hemiboy]

No problem , Jerry, that's why we call you Jman cuz you be the MAN! Thanks again for selling me great products at a great price and helping me with all the set up, even more importantly

[Jman]

I thought I would add another simple solution for adding a plate to the bottom of a typical Hi Hat stand. This just happens to be a 1st generation 2Box Hi Hat stand, but this would work on all or most all Hi Hat stands with the typical two bars that connect the pedal heel to the stand base. This little DIY mod took me all of about 15 minutes .... 5 minutes thinking about how I would do it. 3 minutes locating the parts in my shop, and 7 minutes tops putting it all together. It took me much more time taking pics, uploading those pics and typing this post than doing this little project.
 
It is very simple, you just need a couple metal straps, bolts, washers and nuts.
This is what I used:
2 ea. Simpson TP15 straps: http://www.homedepot.com/p/Simpson-Strong-Tie-TP15-1-13-16-in-x-5-in-Tie-Plate-TP15/100375260
4 ea. #6-32 X 3/4" machine screws with nuts. (packaged with #6-32 nuts)
4 ea. #6 washers
4 ea. #6 lockwashers
Here is the new simple base installed with my Stealth 2Box HH control box on it:
Controller on plate by Jman Stealth, on Flickr
Here is picture of the plate installed:
Add plate to HH stand by Jman Stealth, on Flickr
And here is a picture showing the stand can still be broken down for moving:
stand easily breaks down with plate on by Jman Stealth, on Flickr

So if you have a stand that already has a metal plate type base, you can install my Stealth 2Box HH stand conversion box with Velcro right to your existing base and you're set. But if you do not have a stand with a base, NO BIG DEAL! You can do a simple little add on mod like this and then attach my box with the included Velcro to your plate. DONE. Another nice thing is you do not do any damaging modifications to your existing HH stand whether it has a existing plate or you add your own this way.

For those who prefer to have me add this hardware kit with everything pictured and listed above for the HiHat box mounting plate .... I can include it with the order for an additional $7.00. That includes the hardware plus the extra shipping weight. Be sure to let me know you want to add the mounting plate hardware for your stand when you contact me. J
Hope it helps! J

[Digs]

Thanks Jerry, very simple but helpful solution.

[Jman]

Quite a few people are using my Stealth 2Box HH stand conversion kit along with a Roland CY cymbal on a Hi Hat stand. I thought I would upload a few pictures of a CY-5 mounted on an acoustic HH stand. There is some hardware included with the CY-5, but all you really need is a few additional cymbal felts plus your own Hi Hat stand/clutch.

This picture shows the CY-5 mounted on a PDP HH stand. A side view, notice the extra felts on the base of the stand that act as the bottom cymbal stopper:
CY5 on HH stnd side - Copy by Jman Stealth, on Flickr
Here is a top view. I used the larger felt that came with the CY-5 instead of the small felt from the HH clutch:   
CY5 on HH stnd Top - Copy by Jman Stealth, on Flickr
Here is a bottom view of the clutch on the CY-5. I used a little larger felt than what is on the HH clutch and tightened the clutch nut tight. It keeps the CY-5 straight and secure on the rod:
CY5 bottom clutch with felt - Copy by Jman Stealth, on Flickr
And a view of the extra felts on the stand cymbal base. This creates the stopper for downward travel. A little plus with this is it gives a realistic feel when pressing down firm as it has a little give when pushing extra tight.
XtrafeltsasHHstopper-Copy_zpscfdeaaf7 by Jman Stealth, on Flickr

[Jman]

Well, I have secured a new source for my controller board. So I have plenty of these in stock now. J

[hemiboy]

Good news, Jman!

[Jman]

For those that prefer to mount the magnet permanently on the underside of their pedal JB Weld would be my suggestion. I have used JB Weld for years for various repairs and other projects even fixed a crack in an engine valve cover years ago. The stuff is great. Just mix up a very small amount, stick the magnet in place and tape it down, in 24 hrs. it will be permanently attached. Obviously you need to predetermine the spot it will be installed and make sure the side that I install the 2 sided tape on is the side you put the JB Weld on as the magnet only works when facing the correct direction. So you would want to test everything first before using the JB Weld. My advice would be to install the magnet with the 2 sided tape as I sent it. Install the Stealth control box. Test and calibrate everything. That way you can be sure all is working just right. Once you are satisfied you can remove the magnet and re-install it with JB Weld.

This is the product I have used:
http://www.homedepot.com/p/J-B-Weld-Weld-8265-s/100189012

[jeff42]

For those that prefer to mount the magnet permanently on the underside of their pedal JB Weld would be my suggestion. I have used JB Weld for years for various repairs and other projects even fixed a crack in an engine valve cover years ago. The stuff is great. Just mix up a very small amount, stick the magnet in place and tape it down, in 24 hrs. it will be permanently attached. Obviously you need to predetermine the spot it will be installed and make sure the side that I install the 2 sided tape on is the side you put the JB Weld on as the magnet only works when facing the correct direction. So you would want to test everything first before using the JB Weld. My advice would be to install the magnet with the 2 sided tape as I sent it. Install the Stealth control box. Test and calibrate everything. That way you can be sure all is working just right. Once you are satisfied you can remove the magnet and re-install it with JB Weld.

This is the product I have used:
http://www.homedepot.com/p/J-B-Weld-Weld-8265-s/100189012

did this tonight! That magnet isnt going anywhere... (and if it does I bought a few more just in case...ya never know!!! LOL) Thanks JMAN!

[Jman]

I added a paragraph about the alternate JB Weld magnet installation to the instruction sheet. This would prolly be the way to go if you are gigging and moving the kit a lot. J

[tmoney]

Bought a controller box from jman less than a month ago, prior to that I was on the verge of selling it. I was using to stock hi hats with ok results, once I installed the box and im using it with a cy8 roland pad I can say the responsiveness is much better. I had a hard time getting a soft hit to register unless I had the gain up crazy high, this annoying problem was resolved with jmans box. Now is it responsive as the hats on my td30, no but its miles ahead of the stock ones in my opinion. Wish I would of purchased years ago, its got me thinking of replacing the ride cymbals as well.

[Jman]

Bought a controller box from jman less than a month ago, prior to that I was on the verge of selling it. I was using to stock hi hats with ok results, once I installed the box and im using it with a cy8 roland pad I can say the responsiveness is much better. I had a hard time getting a soft hit to register unless I had the gain up crazy high, this annoying problem was resolved with jmans box. Now is it responsive as the hats on my td30, no but its miles ahead of the stock ones in my opinion. Wish I would of purchased years ago, its got me thinking of replacing the ride cymbals as well.

Thanks for the feedback t!

[crosstix73]

so  if  I m  understanding  right, do  I  really  need  this  stealth  conversion  kit, if  I  simply  plan  to  use  a  dw  5000  2  legged  hi-hat  stand  with  my  default  2box  hi-hat  cymbals?
I  really  don't  care  about  having  the  remote  option .
what  are  the  pros  and  cons  with  using  this  conversion  kit , on  a  standard  2box  hi-hat ?