what going on with my snare machhead

[BURNIN AMBITION]

no i hit hard no worries. give us a pick of the mesh head hole mate. somethings  wrong for sure

[Murgen]

The new Mach was damaged again !!!
I changed the drum stick to a 5a nylon but it damaged again!!
I don't know what to do
It's somthing about me???
I not hit hard!
Any way, all the 2box players never ever hit it hard??
I just dont get it
!!!!!!!

Did you check the bearings? Yes

Okay ... this is serious because you should consider having your stick technique checked. A stupid question but have you ever played on an acoustic kit? Are you familiar with the concept of having the stick do the work? In other words: do you plunge your stick with full force into the heads or do you let the stick go and bounce back like you are supposed to?

[urigal]

Yes â€" I playing from the day I was 12 years old â€" now I'm 36


I had acoustic set for years… changed heads after years of use,  and just because it was lose color… never damaged

For the force â€" I am hitting max 50% (max) compare what I did when I played on the acoustic set

I am very jental with it

I was changed three sets of stick drums…so this is not the problem


It's true that I did not for the last 7 years so now I started with light rock and Relaxed music â€" compare to what I was play in the past….

Just don’t get it…. The pads itself look regular and no clue for something wrong with it


Now I change TOM 3 to become a snare â€" I want to check in the next few days what will be happened




if feel so lost
 





**   -- how can i add photoes ?

[BURNIN AMBITION]

hey mate give us a picture of the mesh head. perhaps if we see the hole, we can understand what is wrong

[Murgen]

Yes, please post a picture because I do not understand what can go wrong here.

And my apologies for assuming you never played drums before. It is just hard to understand why your mesh-heads  break down.

[digitalDrummer]

Take off the head and check if there are sharp edges on the rim or any parts are sticking out.
Try swapping the snare with another drum for a while and see if you break another one.

[urigal]

I check it
(the edge) - nothing



but here i have a stupid question : how the hell i attaching photo?

i clicked on the icon an i saw that:  "[ IMG ] letters

[Murgen]

I check it
(the edge) - nothing
but here i have a stupid question : how the hell i attaching photo?

i clicked on the icon an i saw that:  "[ IMG ] letters

You have to upload the photo to some place at the internet (I use Flickr). Then you can link it from there.

[urigal]

Hi all

o.k,  I put a link to some photos that I shot

( its a link to my facebook - i will hope you will see it)

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.389547271139104.91667.100002515033260&type=3#!/media/set/?set=a.389547271139104.91667.100002515033260&type=1

in the first photoâ€" you can see the hole location  in the mash

in the second photo â€" I shot it with flash â€" so you can see the stick drum marks

the third photo â€" the new drums682 mash, you can see again that marks on the net

the last photo â€" you can see that bellow the pad I saw some black dust, it's not a dust of course it's coming from the mash


for the hitting Strength â€" I thought maybe it's my fault, cause no one in this forum did not have this problem â€" but now I sure that its 100% that its not my fault

how can I know it? â€" simple â€" the trigger of the snare can translate the Strength of the hitting, If you hit it hard you can hear that the sound is changing from low to the maximum hit

you can change the level of the gain in the unit, so if you change the gain from "0" in the default to let's say "3" â€" you can hit it less harder and get this sound of the max hard hit sooner

what I am saying â€"the level of my snare gain is 3, and when I playing I usually not getting the sound of the "hard hit" (the max point of the hitting)â€" this is a proof that I am not hitting hard


questions:

1.   Do you also have this stick marks ?  (you have to be in specific angle with light to see it)
2.   Do you have also that black dust - ? its mean that the mash is tearing slowly ?
3.   Any other ideas? â€" if this mach will damag I will leave the drums and buy Flute â€" LOL!!!

[BURNIN AMBITION]

the fact that you dont get maximum hit values doesnt mean you dont hit hard. imo by the look of the mesh shape, there is either something wrong with your technique or your are hitting waaaaaaay too hard. turn the gain up to the point your hard hits register as hard hits (mind you your hards hits from now on should be less hard than what you are doing). i am hitting pretty hard and never had problems at all. thats why i am talking about technique. i dont want to disrespect you as a drummer , just to try and help ok?
take care

ps. perhaps you should try and use 7a sticks with nylon tip

[urigal]

I don’t look for respects or something.... and I really Appreciate your help - thanks

When I play I make the stick bounce back and I never make it like "digging" into the mash â€" I don’t know what to say….


I checked the snare pad again and look for differences compare to the other pads â€" and there is some different

I don’t know if it can be the answer but:

When you look on the pad you have this gray sponge that makes the mach Strained and tight

in all the rest of the pads this sponge is very close to the mach â€" and if you put your finger there you will fill like a small peak in the mach â€" and this is what make the mash tight


In the snare â€" I don’t have it! Its look like that sponge is not make Enough  tight to the mach â€" and when you put your finger there you will not fill any peak / bump,

Any idea?

[Murgen]

It must be a combination of things.

First of all, foam in my snare is identical positioned as the foam in the toms.
So, you definitely have to look into the foam issue.

Second: my snare mesh also has wear and tear (which is natural because it is the destiny of all drums-heads). I also have some black dust under my snare but not much and the surface of my used snare and tom-heads is a bit more shiny. Still, the response is good and the snare plays well.
So, take the advice and crank up your settings and play with less power.

I also will post pictures of my snare (mesh-head is now 8 months in use) and a brand-new tom picture. I hope you see the difference.


IMG_0681 by murgenetemplar, snare head in use for 8 months now


IMG_0682 by murgenetemplar, brand new mesh-head on tom

[urigal]

Now it's two days that I am using one of the 8" pad as a snare and the mach looks o.k compare to the 12". I even change my music that I played and now turn it to some more ection with nine inch nails and Metallica 

I connect the store of 2box and ordered one more 12" pad( I any way want to use it like floor  in the future) . For now I will use it like a snare . When I will get it I will write the conclusions

For the technics of my playing, I just play now one hour to see if I playing wrong - but It seems to be correct, I use my hand like an axis with a light hittin, actually the only force that hitting the mash is the wight of the stick itself , noting more.

I will defently Check the foam isiuu

I maybe even will shot some video a uplode to YouTube so you can give me your opinion about it.

Today I bought a very light drum stick - it's a zilijian 6a and its great .

When I was in the drum store I check the stick on a yamaha 540, noting to compare to the 2box set, like a million mails away 

I want so much to fix this problem and enjoining playing with this great set of the 2box

[boekhour]

Nothing new here. I teared up the original snare head after one month of playing. Just buy some 682 heads, double layer and can handle sledgehammer style!

And last week I smashed through the 2box basssdrum head. The new double layered meshhead is also less bouncy.

http://www.682drums.com/Mesh-Heads-voor-2BOX-c-262.html

[Murgen]

Nothing new here. I teared up the original snare head after one month of playing. Just buy some 682 heads, double layer and can handle sledgehammer style!

And last week I smashed through the 2box basssdrum head. The new double layered meshhead is also less bouncy.

http://www.682drums.com/Mesh-Heads-voor-2BOX-c-262.html

That is good to know. I lowered my bassdrum head tension and that worked but I keep the 682 in mind!