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Has anyone tried to plug an expression pedal into the hi-hat input to control the sound? Obviously it will be a different playability than a regular hi-hat pedal, but I am going to control the sounds via MIDI so can trigger the different hi-hat zones via separate pads on my Alternate Mode TrapKatXL. Will this work?

This is actually due to a lack of choices, not too many. The drums have many velocities, sometimes up to 99 or more. The cymbals sometimes have only 10 or 20. I think 1 or 2 have 30. This is a huge gap between the drum samples and it is surprising due to the detail of many of the drums that the cymbals would be half-finished.
Your alternative option is basically to make your own by  using other sample libraries. Expansions installed for BFD2, as well as the standalone library Natural Drum Kit, are easily converted to the 2Box format as they are .wav files. Many other drum libraries can also be converted with a tool called SDSE.
I plan on releasing / selling samples I have recorded, but this is probably a long way down the road.

Are you trying to trigger it via MIDI? If so, that would be an issue because they do not give a MIDI note for the rimshot for some odd reason. I asked 2 Box about this and it didn't seem to be a priority.

Agreed, I am sure if they were reported the extra sounds would be removed.

Hi!

Just some small comments! I think it is good idea to start offer and sell samples of cymbals for 2box.

There is always a need for more sounds and 2box is a great system to add multilayer samples!

I launched together with my friend Jouni (who is behind all original sounds on 2box) a 1920s Ludwig Black Beauty Snare sample on my site about 2 years ago and it has until now been sold about 100 times...so you won’t get fat on the income...but it is fun! And maybe there are more sounds in the pipe from us :-) https://zourman.com/product/ludwig-black-beauty-1922-snare-sample/

We had an idea to sample Jounis Paiste 602 series of cymbals...great stuff! Another dream is to sample a series of concert TOMS from the seventies!

Just a sample production hint: Do a series of 16 hits going from loose to hard(5 sec between each hit) ...and do it 5 times. Then you will have a good library of about 80 layers...just perfect for the 2box Editor. (Which will index them based on velocity automatically)

Best regards

Anders / www.zourman.com

Concert toms, that I would definitely buy! I have some from a commercial library but they have a lot of hall reverb on them. Good for some things, but harder to put into most kits.

I have noticed that the default mapping based on volume is sometimes off. On some sounds quieter samples can end up above louder ones. So I always go through them after the file is made to see if I need to move any around in the velocities.map file. It seems to depend on the type of sound, things like wood blocks and cowbells always come out perfectly but cymbals, drums, etc can require more work.

Over the next few months (and years) I will have many cymbals and other drum/perc items passing through my hands, and am thinking of sampling them. I've already sampled all my personal acoustic gear and am in the process of selling most of it as the 2Box will be able to cover most of my sounds now. A lot of the sounds I've sampled so far (as well as many of those coming in the future) are currently not represented in the 2Box (Meinl Byzance and other darker Turkish-made cymbals, for example.)
So this got me thinking, is there a market for selling custom 2Box sounds? The website has many many drum kits, but cymbals are a bit thinner on the ground and most have a small amount of velocities compared to the drums. As a result I only have 1 or 2 of the factory cymbals saved.
If there is enough interest, the collection of cymbals available for the Drumit will increase by quite a bit over the next few years.
I will probably post a free cymbal soon to give an idea. It is a single-zone crash, because this particular cymbal does not have a good ride sound in my opinion. 44 velocity layers. Obviously anything for sale will have 3 zones (other than most stacks.)
Any thoughts are welcome.

DSoundTuner does this. I'm not sure what software you were using but I highly recommend that one. You can also just use DSoundTool.

There are some new ones in there (or at least some not included in the DI5 or DI3 factory zips.) A few cymbals were new, 14" EUSCF Crash (presumably this is a Meinl Soundcaster Fusion crash?) I only remember seeing larger sizes previously.
Regardless, this will help those who may not have all the sounds audition the rest and see if they need anything. It's not a bad thing in my view.

Yes, Drumit5. I did not know the 5 and 3 had different power supplies, that is good to know.

For those of you in the US, has anyone had to replace the power supply? There are a few used 2Box modules floating around with either no power supply or one from overseas. I don't really want to spend the insane price 2Box is charging for their supplies (i see $50-something on one site!) Any alternatives?

Hello,

I recently discovered 2box and have a lot of questions -- sorry in advance! I figured this would be the best place to post rather than creating a bunch of separate threads...

Firstly, I am blind. I see there is a manual for blind users online. However, it appears none of the tools to create .dsnd files are accessible. Neither DSoundtool or the official editor from 2box show any text content that a screen reader will read, so they are basically blank screens for me. Is there any other way to create custom sample sets?

Related to the above, I found an example velocity map that can be used with DSoundtool, and it has velocities from 0 to 360, as opposed to the 0-127 MIDI standard. If, for example, I had a drum recorded at 40 velocities, how should this be scaled across the full range?

Next... My intentions for this module are to replace a large stick-played percussion setup that I own. What are good controllers for the 2box module? Obviously there is the pad set that 2box makes, though this is more along the lines of a standard drum kit setup. Is anyone using the Trap Kat XL or something similar to control their module? Any other suggestions? I want the most expressiveness possible.

Almost done...Does anyone have good suggestions for drum sample libraries that contain .wav samples without having to do a lot of workarounds? Specifically interested in cymbals, percussion and specialty drums like small snares, roto toms, octobans etc. So many libraries are encrypted nowadays which is very frustrating for those who wish to use the samples away from a computer...

Finally for now...I've found some posts where people discuss splitting the trigger inputs and adding more pads. Just to clarify, don't the pads already have 2 zones? So basically this allows for more pads, but not necessarily more sounds, since they could still be played from the rim of the original pads? Or is this incorrect? Hopefully this makes sense...

Thanks for any help!