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Hi all,

Selling my Drumit3. Mint condition. Asking SEK 6000:-
Also Yamaha XP120SD 12" Snare pad in very good condition. Yamaha PCY 135, PCY 155, RHH 135 and a complete DTX500K kit, one Millenium MPS-600 and 2pcs Roland kick pads KD-8.

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If you use the ddrum3 with the original ddrum3 precision pads, the difference is even more striking.  :)

And yes, of course the drumit sounds can be put on PCMCIA-cards. Just open the dsnd-files in an editor, cut out the samples you want and normalize them first, and save as 16-bit.

General 2Box Drumit 3 Forum / Re: Three Zone Snare
« on: February 26, 2020, 11:40:05 AM »
This is how Yamaha modules (and 2box) differentiate between the two rims zones on a single trs cable. The resistor is in the pad. What Anders did is put this resistor in one of his boxes so that a Bt1 could act as the 3rd zone.

Ah, I understand what he means now :) Yes, the Yamaha pad switches the ring connector to groud, but the one for rimshots has a 10k series resistor. This way x-stick is pulled from 5V to 0V and rimshots are pulled down from 5V to 2,5V.

Yeah I know what you mean with the XP120sd. Like I say, hitting the 3rd rim often gets mixed trigger zones. Btw it’s also the same on the pearl mimic pro!

The TP120SD was far superior. It was hotter in signal and didn’t have any mixed triggering of zones. I don’t understand why though, surely the only thing to change is the surface?

As for bounce or rolls, absolutely fine with a TP120SD. I like the rubber surface more than mesh! But we’re all different.

My guess is that the difference in performance has to do with the timing of the module. The Yamaha module(s) are much slower (8-11ms), so they have a longer scan-time to determine which zone has been triggered. I have a DTX500 module which detects the zones perfectly, but apart from that, not a very good unit.
So using either TP120SD or XP120SD with a Yamaha module, you may not notice any difference.
The drumit 3 is much faster (3-6ms depending on zone) so that's probably why. But the reason the pads actually differ... I would guess there is some stray capacitance in the XP120SD that is less in the TP120SD, thus giving a faster switching. But that is just my guess.

General 2Box Drumit 3 Forum / Re: Three Zone Snare
« on: February 26, 2020, 07:08:21 AM »
The only way to get 3 zones using one snare input is through the Yamaha way to do it. Piezo, switch, switch trigger with a 10k resistor difference between the two switch triggers.

Hi Anders!
You mention a 10k resistor between the two switches. I own a Yamaha XP120SD and I have been in contact with 2box regarding the less than stellar zone switching using this pad with the drumit 3, but they have never mentioned any additional mod or the resistor. Could you tell me more about this?

For anyone considering this snare pad: The cross stick triggering is quite poor with the drumit 3. The module often interprets it as something else but cross stick. Also there is often double triggers when playing rimshots.

If you create a 3-zone dsnd and pan the different zones hard left, rigt and center (only use single layers for simplicity) you will notice that more than one zone often triggers simultaneously.

Sharing drum sounds - wav / aiff / rex / Re: Everything ddrum
« on: February 24, 2020, 07:06:31 AM »
After first try to start the ddrum4wav tool, my computer blocked it. After allowing to run nothing happens... just a short flash of a windwow which disappears immediately.

I understand it as a standalone running tool to convert the .mid-format samples to wav. Am I right or do I need in addition?

I'm running a Windows 10 Laptop.

Any advice?

Cheers, Frank

The usage of ddrum4wav tool is like this: Drag the .mid file on to ddrum4wav tool. After this a command line dialog will appear, after which you just press enter. Both ddrum4wav tool and the .mid file should be in the same folder.

Or maybe it isn't compatible with Windows 10. Right click on ddrum4wav tool, choose Properties, Compatibility, then check the box to run the program in Compatibility Mode. It should run in XP or W7.

I would try that first. Hope it helps.

Sharing drum sounds - wav / aiff / rex / Everything ddrum
« on: February 19, 2020, 04:40:13 PM »
Hi all,

I am uploading a zip-file containing all ddrum sounds that were ever made, plus manuals etc.


ddrum4Tool.exe is the original tool for transferring sounds to the ddrum4. Doesn't seem to work well with newer (USB) drivers though.

ddrum4wav.exe is a tool for extracting the individual samples from ddrum4 samples, both multisamples and the older samples from earlier modules that were included on the original ddrum4-CD from which most of this content originates. NOTE: The ddrum3 sounds that are included in this zip-file can't be converted with this tool. These files can instead be opened with an audio editor, interpreting the files as 16-bit, 44,1kHz Mono, Big-Endian byte order (MSB,LSB) (Motorola).

The zip-file is 228MB.

Here is a list of all files and folders in the archive:

[Folder] Best Service
[Folder] Clavia DMI
[Folder] ddrum3 SCSI tool (for 68k Mac)
[Folder] ddrum4 Megasamples Signature
[Folder] ddrum4 sounds
[Folder] ddrum4SESoundLibrary
[Folder] Manuals

Reverb&FXdrums (ID102).mid


Other e-drum systems / Re: Sunhouse Sensory Percussion Demo Video
« on: January 28, 2020, 01:59:57 PM »
hm Just stumbled upon a guy selling the one-sensor-setup. Interesting stuff!

Private - for sale / wanted / Re: 2box Hihat controller for sale (Sweden)
« on: November 02, 2019, 03:53:24 PM »
Lowered price to SEK 1000:-

Private - for sale / wanted / 2box Hihat controller for sale (Sweden)
« on: October 01, 2019, 11:55:46 AM »
Hi all

I just put out my 2box hihat controller for sale on Blocket. Brand new, just tested.

General 2Box Drumit 3 Forum / Re: Yamaha PCY-135
« on: June 20, 2019, 10:21:41 AM »
maybe you have some rubber or glue residue between the sensor and the rubber edge ...

I took them apart, and yes there was fragments of rubber inside that had come loose over the years. I cleaned it out, and thought for a while that they worked better.

I think I need to re-phrase my question thus: Which e-cymbals has the most sensitive and reliable edge switches? It's a pity that the usable dynamic range of e-cymbals with edge switches in combination with the drumit3 gets limited to the switch sensitivity.

General 2Box Drumit 3 Forum / Re: Yamaha PCY-135
« on: May 23, 2019, 08:58:02 AM »
I'm gonna hijack this thread a bit since I have issues with Yamaha cymbals and edge triggering. I have 2 PCY-135, one PCY-155 and a RHH-135 that I bought used locally. One of the PCY-135 and the PCY-155 work great. The other PCY-135 only triggers edge when hit hard.

I pulled the RHH-135 apart with the intention of turning it into a PCY-135, or replacing the faulty one, only to find it has the same problem, which I suspect has to do with the rim switch. But when analyzing it, the rim switch does work, but the module doesn't register it. I've tried different cables and inputs but the issue remains.
Any thoughts?

Other e-drum systems / Re: Roland PDX-12
« on: May 23, 2019, 08:43:58 AM »
So there is no regular mesh head that can be changed when worn out?

Other e-drum systems / Re: Roland PDX-12
« on: May 21, 2019, 07:13:56 AM »
Thanks for the review! The rim hotspot is a no-go for me.
Is the rim softer than a regular rim with rubbertrim? Or is it actually a metal rim with rubber on it?


Other e-drum systems / Re: Roland PDX-12
« on: May 18, 2019, 05:36:08 AM »
i m getting one this week , i ll try an will tell you ...

Are you ready to give us a review of the pad?

You are not mentioning which pad you use. My guess is that the pad gets compressed by the pressure of the pedal and thus closing the edge switch. Maybe I'm way off though. Just a guess.

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