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#1156
Other e-drum systems / Re: Native Instruments
December 29, 2010, 01:37:03 AM
could anybody repair my broken car ? i need it to transport my 2box module ...

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#1157
what a srange design...!

i guess it would be hard to have something reliable with DIY .
#1158
found this on Manufacturer's Description for Yamaha AW16G

"And if you use a computer for music production, you can use the AW16G as a MIDI Remote Control surface for convenient packages, such as Cubase, Logic, and Sonar, using the physical faders and controls of the AW16G! You can even program your own remote templates by sending MIDI control data from a device to the AW16G in Remote mode. Control the filter cutoff of a synthesizer or the channel volumes of an XG tone generator, for example "

to record your drum , just plug out 1 & 2 of the 2box in line input 1 & 2 of your soundcard or recorder... have a look on the back , it s allways written on this type of gear ...if you get no sound , try other ins and verify options on your software, you have to tell the program what inputs you use for recording...
... making your own mistakes is a good way to improve yourself...

merry christmas

#1159
I dont want to be rude or start an E-war ... but your question could be the same if you wanted to record a synthetizer or a cd player or even an IPOD..
... your question is about recording a "line in " signal and some microphones on a sound card and a yamaha digital recorder .... Would you go to an IPOD forum to ask how to use your sound card and Yamaha AW 16G ?

it s just to help you that I tell you to have a look on a homestudio forum , no need to register  to have a look
#1160
I think you would have more chance by :

-reading the manual  
-searching on google the meaning of rca & trs
-ask those questions  on a homestudio forum here its a Edrum forum ...

-try by yourself ... plugging an output to an input should not be a problem as you name yourself "mixmaster" ;)

thanx

TRS to RCA   : stereo jack plug to cinch (like on cd players or turntables , one white one red...)
#1161
... then if you sell each cymbal 200€ , you ll get a free rack and lots of spare cables .....

just kidding ...;)
#1162
   Seems that some people managed to buy extra pads cymbals ... what price did you pay ? where did you buy it ?
#1163
thanx Slagverket :)

does anybody have pictures or can draw a diagram ?

what kind of switch for the edge sound ?
#1164
Quote from: roel on December 27, 2010, 12:30:24 PM
some of us are happy with the module and the sounds in it,but what about spare parts....
and that mk2 rack upgrade....

ROEL , why dont you buy a mk2 kit , and sell what you dont need .... that would make extra spare part on the market , quite sure some people need an extra kick , hihat , tom or a module ... then keep your mk1 rack fore home use...

  You could sell each pad 150€ (kick maybe more with the pedal ), the module 950€ , the hihat 200€ ... that makes 1900€ so youll get 2 cymbals and a rack for less than 400€...
Try to open a new topic on this forum to see if some people agree to buy a kit with you ...  it s worth the try..:)

have a nice day...
#1165
Quote from: Slap the drummer on December 10, 2010, 07:57:25 PM


But it's worth bearing in mind that you may find the kit works fine for a while and then suddenly
goes kaput.  At least that's what happened with mine.  If you're gigging with the kit you don't
want it breaking down halfway in.

the same for me !!!
   seemed to work fine for a week ,then I began to notice some strange and unconsistent latency on "dry kick 22", and after that , using some kits made the module crash ....

I think its no use to wait for a problem ... if you re part of the defect serial list , just
order the new SD card to your seller ... send them a link to the page on 2box site , most of them are not aware of the problem (thomann didnt..)... they can send you a SDcard , no use to send the whole module ...

#1166
MK2 rack update cant be done softwarewise i guess ...
..or maybe in "star trek" ...... :)

#1167
you just need a stereo jack to female xlr ... skin signal is on the tip , and rim signal is on the ring...
#1168
hello
Could anybody explain how  2 box cymbals are built ?  how many piezos ? wiring ? piezzo(s) position on the pad ... how choke works...

this could be nice for DIY projects , or just a better undrestanding of the module behaviour..

thanx !
#1169
Ok guys , I know now where i can stick my foam ring ...;)
#1170
Hi guys , here is my letter to SANTA DEVELOPER...:)

first , before complaining and asking i must say that Drumit Five rocks ... i really enjoy this peace of gear , it has quite all an Edrummer needs ... lots of IN/OUTS , great sound , great triggering ... great colour :)

i use the module with a mix of vintage Pearl roland piezo pads , and some DIY pads ans a real HIHAT .I monitor with headphones and a loud bass shaker .

As the module is sold alone , it could be great to add more possibilities for people who dont use 2box pads and cymbals.

here are some I'd like in future OS

-    possibility to reduce gain on a pad input

-    possibility to chose a minimum and maximum trigger level for each input or sound .
-    internally mapping a single sound to 2 different pads, for example the kick sound triggered by kick in   and also tom4 in .

-   It could be great to use cymbals and hihat inputs as normal triggers inputs . I don't know it is possible to use cymbal input as a double trigger , but only if we could use it as a mono tom or a "loop player" it would be nice .

-     Adding some "crosstalk" support

-    Adding support for non piezo pads , like switch pedals ... imagine 2 switches on a dual input , you could use to trigger sounds , or changing some parameters or programs , use to control TAP TEMPO , stop or start a loop  ... or even switching on PuttenVR 's blue light  :)

-   Adding support for other brands cymbals and hihat systems .Maybe it is not "commercially correct" , but maybe it could open more markets for the module ... who knows :) .. and more flexibility for users

-   possibility to use the songs wavs as "double mono" ...for example , one could have a click on left side and a song on right side of the wav file .then route the left(click)to the headphone mix , and the right(song)to the output mix or a separate out .

-   On the envelope of the sound , it could be usefull to chose the length more precisely from ZERO to infinite .. mean more than the 10 sec before infinite ...

-   Adding a low pass filter could help a lot on some Toms or kick


       A lot of users bought the module because of its ability do play "loops" and samples  .. so it s time to have some improvements .

-     Midi clock sync the module from another sequencer . For example to use internal click when playing in sync with a sequencer or arpeggiator ...

-     Midi clock sync an external sequencer from the module and possibility to send start or stop  messages from a pad input , or use internal tap tempo to control midi tempo .

Adding a "loop and sample player" in the module . For example , on a dual input , the "skin" triggers the loop , and the rim stops it . One could chose if the sound is "loop" or "one shot"

  To be usable while playing , loops have to be in sync with the metronome , so i was thinking of Ableton live way of triggering what they call"CLIPS" with a " tunable quantization .I m not talking about real time time stretching that would be impossible for the drumit CPU ...

  For those who dont use Ableton , when triggering a "CLIP" with a midi note , you can choose to quantize the start of the sound ... when choosing quantize to lets say a BAR , if you hit the note before the BAR starts , the sound triggers right at the beginning of next BAR in perfect sync with the metronome
... the loop repetition could also be synchronized with midi tempo so even if the loop length is not precisely set on the wav file , it is still in sync with tempo while repeating .   .

I guess this kind of "basic sequencing " don't need a lot of CPU power , i just hope that it s possible to achieve as I don know anything about programming ... i just have some ideas :)

- what do you think about MIDI controlling internal parameters ? for example , using a midi remote to control the internal mixer , individual sounds  or parameters without the need to go into the menu ...

this midi mapping could be edited on a computer , in a new section of the new 2box editor :)


-    is it possible to improve the module so that when you change the preset , the sounds change instantly ... ?

-    It would be nice to have different presets available for the trigger unit  section ...lets say 10 presets , so you can recall different configurations for each use , pad configuration , or playing strength , type of drumsticks ...

       I am aware that   improving tweaking possibilities of the module could be confusing for people who are using the system "out of the box" and don't need this jungle of parameters . So why not adding a "custom setup mode" for people who needs it , and leave a "standard setup mode" fot those who dont ...


To end this long list , again I love this 2box module , and have a lot of fun playing  with it (even with a bad SDcard for the moment ;) )
... I spent the last 20 years on stage , playing with bands and working as a sound tech  . I'd love to share my experiences to enhance this E-drumming system , because I'm convinced it has a huge potential , and already meets quite everything a professional player needs . I m also sure it could do a lot more...:)

Sorry for my "French guy" English ..:) but it s a Edrum forum , not an English contest  ...
Sorry also if some features I asked for are already in the module or in this forum , I wasn't "everywhere" yet :)

Wish you all the best for 2011 ...