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BRILLIANT!!!

Thanks so much, I'll have a crack at it this week and let you know the results.

Steve

Hello,

I am kinda new to the using the 2box to control virtual instruments, so I could use some tips. I want to trigger Superior drummer or Ez drummer from the 2box. Kicks, snares and toms are no issue. But I wondering how much hassle would it be to use the hihat function? I noticed that both these drum plugins use modulation to open the hats sound (the same as 2box) but when I set the midi note on the hats to fire the Ez drummer/Superior drummer plugin, it doesn't open and close when the hihat does. So what I am doing wrong?

Thanks in advance.

Steve

Did I not mention I had the drt series before the chrome elite. And yes, they broke too. One time one broke and I switched to the secondary transducer and found that it had broken before the primary one.

As for the chrome elite. Ddrum have in fairness have tried to make the build better. But having a snare and a kick all fail in two weeks, my guess is the transducer is just not built to that the vibrations over time. No matter how well you build around it, the transducer is just weak.

The aquarian ones do seen like the best by far. But they're expensive and I've also read that they have a life. They'll work for a while and then they just won't. How long that is with a heavy touring schedule like the one I'm on, remains my reservation along with the high cost. That said, if I'd known how much I would be spending at the top of the tour I would have just spent on the aquarian ones.

Thanks for the reply. But how well do they track? As good as ddrum? I was told the pintech ones do, but they do not! Not even close.

Does anyone know of an effective and reliable set of acoustic triggers?

I've had every single range of ddrum. Including the new nor so super duper chrome elite. The same story on all. Give it a few weeks of nightly gigging (I'm touring uk extensively and have been since October) and you find a complete failure of a trigger or the intermittent kind. In the latter case the triggering will come and go and upon inspection and pressing the transducer into the sponge, you'll hear machine gun triggering meaning the connection had broken and as it's being pressed it's connecting and disconnecting really fast, hence machine gun effect.

I took a gamble on the recommendation of the chap in the chat screen for Pintech with a set of their perfect triggers. There's a lot I admire, fast transducer replacement and a generally better build being the main ones. The down side, they just don't trigger half as well. Lots of double triggers and I've messed with the settings a lot. I had to dampen the drums a lot to combat this, which I didn't have to do with ddrum.

I've spent a lot of money and a lot of time trying things out and I'm still lost for an answer.

I'm thinking to just have to constantly buy the replacement ddrum transducers periodically and make my own mount with sprung connectors for fast replacement on the gig. As they do work the best but just don't last.

I've emailed 2box for advise with no reply. I've also emailed pintech for advise of setup for their triggers as he claimed he'd sold lots to disgruntled ddrum customer. So he must have some idea of set up tips. As it stands, most of them are still in the packets not having been opened.

Hey thanks for the reply!
I happen to try the 2box brain with two triggers. 1. Kat acoustic trigger (Made for them by Trigger Perfect. I forgot I had this as I never used it, from 1993 or something)  and a Ddrum snare trigger (without the splitter cable for the rim) I played with the settings and the difference was chalk and cheese.
Ddrum, tracked almost as good as a pad and I didn't dampen the drum at all.
Kat trigger. Almost un-usable. I had to increase the gain to 15 to get it to trigger to 0 (max) lower threshold and it still couldn't fire rolls.
Ddrum trigger all the way for performance.
But like I said in my first post, I tried this in 2004 and had reliability issues within a month. A week or so with Redshots, a month with the pro triggers. Now, I am not a psychopath when I play, and most of Heavy Metal players "rely" on these. They send me a load of new transducers, which after about a 6 months, all broke again so I gave up.
Was it a bad batch?

Hello 2box people!

I am about to go on tour with a rock and roll show (www.circusofhorrors.co.uk) and was wanting to trigger the drums, in part to save channels on the desk as we have a limitation this tour, and to get that massive, Rob Zombie type drum sound (I haven't even gotten to what samples on the 2box brain to use yet) Also, I fear the engineer isn't gonna be up to scratch and being a soundman myself, I notice drums are usually the thing that suffers most when someone doesn't have a decent set of ears on them.
Anyway, need to get some triggers. Ddrum pro triggers are the industry standard but I bought a set in 2004 to use with a Ddrum 4 mondule and it worked a charm. But after a month, they all broke and with the same issue (one of the wires braking off the transducer) Clavia (the founder and owners of Ddrum at that time) sent me a load of new transducers, but after a while, they all broke too. So I was seriously put off triggering live, until now. I know people who have had these for years and never had an issue. So was I subject of a bad batch or are they generally not very reliable?
They have since brought out the DDT which have double transducers incase of an failure, so is this is a common issue.
Are there any better alternatives? Bear in mind, I will not being using mesh heads, they'll be trigger from mylar heads (albeit heavily muffled for improved triggering)
Is it possible to achieve fairly accurate triggering with triggers and the 2box module?
Thanks for any advice in advance!

Further to this, I have read on another post that I might be infringing on copywrite. The 80's sound is my own made from various different samples, layered and processed on my own. Is this still infringing on copywrite?

Hi,
I have tried desperately to get the Mutt Lang/Def Leppard/Bryan Adams Snare (well, and kick but I never got that far) And had a crack at making my own using logic snares which only seem to be available if you try (try being the most appropriate term) to replace a recorded drum sound from an audio track.
Anyway, I layered, compressed, gated, eq's until the cows came home (and I don't own any!... but they bloody turned up regardless)
From there, I programmed about 15 hits (I know I should have done a lot more, but the sound hardly changed form hard to soft anyway) and used wiredtap studio to record the sounds, split on silence and from there, I loaded all the WAVs into Drumit 5 application to pad centre (didn't do a rim) and saved as a dsnd file
and this is the result.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/twa600bf9nvtseq/Logic%2080%27s%20Snare.dsnd
However, if you notice, when the sound on the module is set on "VAR" on low hits, you hear silence on small hits?! WHY!? If you set it to FIX or TOP... no problem but the sound is WAY less natural, if that's the word as the sound by it's nature is anything BUT natural of a snare drum.
Anyway, if you're after a big 80's, you might like this. I haven't tried doing toms or kick, the silence thing kinda told me that I was missing something so before I try and make anymore, I'll figure out what that is. I have email 2box with the sound, who very graciously said they'd looking into it but have't come back to me as yet.
I got some Superior snares and Kicks, but I am not sure sharing them would infringe copywrite or something.

I am not sure, but you might have to make a sound which has the two sounds mixed in with the drum it application, or have a splitter cable from snare to both snare and hihat inputs.

That's exactly what it was. I figured it out after I posted this. Thanks for your reply though!

I have been away a few weeks and have come back to find that for some unknown reason, I cannot save changes to kits anymore. The button works for other things (like layer change, sound preview etc) so I know it's not a mechanical issue. Anyone experienced this? And if so, what do I do to change it?