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On a side note Jman, what do you think of the module. I know it's not gonna be a major difference (or any) to the drumit5, but as a module vs cost, vs easy of use etc...

Your thoughts?

Ahhhh so "come back 2box deserters, we've found a way!"

Like someone on Facebook said, "where there's a Jman, there's a way!"

Well that explains it. They’ve missed a trick here haven’t they? So many people are bent out of shape of the loss of two outputs.
Solutions:
2 modules. One drumit5 (which I already have) that would give me a possible 12 outputs!

Oh but I forgot, I only use two.

Never mind.

I’m not sure where I read it, but I’m sure someone said they only has cymbals routed to headphones. Mine arrives tomorrow so I can’t test this. In the 6 years I’ve had the drumit5 I’ve never used
more than a stereo pair of outs. I’ll not be using anymore with the drumit3 live.

There are 2 pad types in the DI5 that are specifically for cross-talk between head and rim on the same pad. Xpad and Xrim. I use Pad 8 or Pad 12 for head on my own Stealh internal side mount triggers and Xrim for Rim. That stops any unwanted rim triggering from the head. Xpad is the opposite it stops unwanted head triggering from the rim. You can try both. Also set the Head and Rim Gain, and Head and Rim Threshold.  Gain you want to set only high enough so your hardest hits trigger maximum velocity. Threshold you want to set Only as low as needed too low and it causes the head or rim to experience more cross-talk and or double triggering.

Hey Jman, I finally gave this a go and while I managed quite easily to obtain a clean rim and pad separation focusing on pad, I didn't get it to work the opposite. In essence, favouring rim over pad should a certain velocity on rim was reached. The idea being that ghost notes and lighter to hard hits on pads trigger only the pad, as soon as I begin to hit the rim along with it at a certain velocity (namely when I would naturally play a rimshot, not side stick) I still got both rim and pad. This is a big of a bug bare with me with the 2box system, in spite of me loving everything about it apart form it. Have you managed to do this? From your videos it would appear you aren't the sort of drummer that rimshot all back beats so I guess this isn't a problem for you. But even though I don't really like the TD15 I have (just for hihats at the moment at least until the Dit3 arrives on Monday) this is something I have naturally done playing for over 30 years and the TD15 does it pretty well. I am even considering keeping it just for this and triggering the drumit 3 snare channel via midi cable so I can achieve this, perhaps with a smaller profile TM2 module.

Have you seen the the videos of the guy who's got basically 2 full drumit5 kits as one, his videos sound awesome. Jman has a load too on his stealth kit(s) I hope they're still up there because they were fantastic.

From what Jman said, Xrim and Xpad shouldn't be used together, they should be used one or the other, depending on what you want to have favoured sorta thing.

Ah I see. That’s technically 2 zones! Just different samples on the rim depending on velocity.

Hey man, sounds great. You got 3 zones working on drumit3 from a Roland Pad? I saw another video with the Black beauty and it had 3 zones, centre, rim shot and side sticks working.

Jman recent mantioned how the xrim and xpad Settimbs work. I was wondering has anyone successfully achivied separate rim/separation? So I’m essense have a snare sample on the pad and a rimshot sample of that snare on the rim and able to achieve clean separation of rim/head for realistic playing via the module. I have Td15 and it’s got a head/rimshot balance setting for this and you can get it pretty good

Anyone?

Oh right, so I wasn't aware of the xrim and xpad relationship. I'd like to have the setting so when rim is played, definitely NO pad because I like the head/rimshot separation, cross still I can use a BT1 for. Will need to give that a try..

Hmmm, without having one of those pads to hand I can't be sure. But how are your cross talk settings?

Actually there seems to be a work around from what the owners of the DI3 have been saying. You can use the headphones as a sub and the two direct outs. That’s 3 stereo pairs or 6 individual outs if you were to pan hard left and right the signals to each output.

And you too sir have hit the nail on the head!!!

How much are the Roland monitors? There are alternatives if they’re really pricey.  The HK Lukas has a great sound and definitely perfect for stage monitoring. It might struggle if you’re competing with acoustic cymbals. But not knowing the cost of the Roland, they maybe be more.
You could always pick up a SH pair of FBT active 8” and a dedicated sub, that too would definitely be a killer system the active sub part is a major factor too.

I think many people would opt for less is more, if the quality is that high! I would certainly prefer to have 3-4 amazing sounding kits rather than a load of not so good sounding ones.