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Not yet, gonna try this week as I have been away gigging all weekend. Back home this evening. I'll be sure to chime in with how I found it.

It could be the reason I go to the shop near here with a Ddrum4 SE module just sitting there gathering dust!

Great stuff, You are doing gods work sir! (if you don't mine me saying)

Just like guys like Lustark and Anders (Zourman drums) making amazing solutions for ddrum/2box users.

Have a great day!

Hi and thanks for the reply!

So it kinda works like Drumit app? I should just download it and give it a try (I will anyway at some point)

Steve

It would be amazing to see videos of this in action. I know someone with a Ddrum4 SE who's not even using it. I think he'd even offload it for little money just to to get shot of it as it's gathering dust. I could persuade him to its use from this app you've made or even pick it up for myself as a spare module for live use or something.

Yes replacement Foam Cones are available from many places. Search eBay for "replacement foam cones for electronic drum pads" You will find many and they're very cheap.

Steve

Translated from French to English

"Hello everyone.

After hesitating for a long time, I'm thinking of quickly getting my hands on the 2BOX Drumit 5 module as well as the 2BOX trigger.

Everything is much cheaper than ROLAND (TD 50) nothing to see... (2500 against 900...)

We can then connect all models and brands of pads and cymbals, with much less interference and confinement.
Also, I don't like the fact that we are in a monopolistic market, which is bad for us and in the end... I want to know which factors I choose, not the common factors. Especially for the module in the 2500th position of the common, this is wrong. We're looking at the exact sample here, and I really liked what I heard online in the demos.

I'm thinking of lighting my little Sonor martini and having 2 batteries in one in very portable mode. I also have enough stands here: you need one for each brand of edrum and it takes up a lot of space. I'll come back for the tom stands and cymbals...

Then I'll need an amp for rehearsals since I'm starting to play music in a group again (it's been years...) I'm thinking about an ALESIS.

What do you think?"

Here's my reply




Bonjour et bienvenue.

Si par Alesis, vous voulez dire le nouvel ampli de batterie Alesis, je pense qu'il s'appelle "Strike drum amp" ou quelque chose de similaire.

Il semble qu'il s'agisse simplement d'une enceinte renommée comme l'ALTO TS412. La conception du boîtier est identique. Je ne sais pas s'il y a quelque chose de différent à l'intérieur.

Je comparerais la différence de prix entre les deux !

Personnellement, je ne suis pas fan des "amplis batterie", je préfère de loin utiliser des IEM (In-Ear Monitor) pour une utilisation en live et à la maison. Ils ont un meilleur son et prendront beaucoup moins de place à transporter.

Les batteries électroniques fonctionnent mieux en live si vous disposez d'un système de sonorisation adapté à l'ensemble du groupe, tout ce qui se trouve sur scène sera uniquement destiné au monitoring. Si le groupe a des moniteurs, ils peuvent alors entendre la batterie et le batteur peut utiliser soit des haut-parleurs (comme vous le pensez), soit des IEM qui seront plus faciles à transporter et coûteront également beaucoup moins cher.

Mais si les enceintes sont vraiment la voie à suivre, je considérerais qu'il est préférable d'en avoir deux. Beaucoup de ces excellents sons de batterie sont enregistrés en STÉRÉO et n'en avoir qu'un seul perdra cet effet.

Si vous en avez besoin en live pour que les autres membres du groupe l'entendent aussi bien que vous-même, ces petites enceintes de 12 pouces pourraient ne pas être aussi efficaces.

C'est quelque chose que vous devrez essayer de savoir.

J'espère que ça aide.

Steve

Hello and welcome.

If by Alesis, you mean the new Alesis drum amp, I think it's called "Strike drum amp" or something similar to that.

It appears to be just a rebranded speaker like the ALTO TS412 The cabinet design looks identical. I do not know if there's anything inside that is different.

I would compare the price difference between them both!

Personally, I am not a fan of "drum amps" I much prefer to use IEM (in-ear monitor) for live an at home use. They have better sound and will take up a lot less space to carry about.

E-drums work best live if you have a suitable PA system for the whole band for out-front, anything on stage will be just for monitoring. If the band has monitors, then they can hear drums from these and the drummer can use either speakers (like you are thinking) or IEM which will be easier to transport and will also cost a lot less.

But if speakers are really the way you have to go, I would consider it is best to have two of them. A lot of these excellent drum sounds are recorded in STEREO and so having just one will lose that effect.

If you are needing it live for others in the band to hear as well as yourself, these small 12" speakers might not be that effective.

It is something you will have to try to know.

I hope this helps.

Steve

I cannot speak from personal experience but I have heard of other using them with great results. You'll need to set the best trigger type and the gains and other trigger settings for optimum results. I can't say off the top of my head what trigger type is the best. But I'd imagine to treat it like the 2boc TrigIt and choose one of the AC trigger types (probably AC1) and then set gain, threshold, mask time and curve etc.

Maybe someone can chime in with personal experience and suggested settings.

Good luck!

And just these last few weeks, Alesis has come-in with a really strong contender with their Strata Prime kit.

That's the thing ATM, "KIT" the module isn't available yet as an individual item. Lots of really great drum sounds, the usual bunch of percussion and "pew-pews" I am very impressed. Some triggering gripes have been mentioned. And I've spotted a couple from the demo videos.

They've put a BFG pack in there and recorded a lot of new sounds, which sound very much on par with the BFG pack.

They're gonna be bringing out an Editor at some point and releasing some expansion packs.

On top of this, great sound-stacking options per zone. 4 effects engines. 6 outs (2 main, 4 direct) and a big 10" touch screen.

Yep, Alesis have seriously upped their game.

No problem. It's kinda odd the rod on that Mk1 Hihat stand rod is that much thicker than your bog standard hihats from other brands isn't it? I mean the stand itself is not exactly heavy duty stuff and probably outsourced.

Hope you work a solution out anyways.

Best wishes. 

Hmmm yeah that's a tough one. Like I mentioned, I can only think that the old pearl style MIGHT work, as they have a different approach to clamping.

I might have one lying around that I have had for YEAAAAARS, I'll go and look and will report back. ␃

Failing that, you could possibly get someone to drill out a clutch to make it larger. But it would need to be someone who knows how to drill with precision.

Going down a different path for hihat would be my recommendation.

The Zourman box with any Roland style hihat will be much better for the playing too. A friend of mine bought one with a Jobeky Brass Hihat top, and it significantly better to play on than the this hihat. I have also tried it with a VH11 and it was great.

Is it that the Rod is too large for most clutches hole or too small to clamp? It's been a while since I had one so I am not so sure.

If its that the rod is too small, I can only think of the old pearl clutches that were about in the 90's. Instead of having a hole, with a bolt through the main housing, these were two pieces that clamped together, sorta like a cymbal book arm-multi clamp.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/186352669033?itmmeta=01HSVZA6PQ4TFP9SP5401ARFKP&hash=item2b637c1169:g:EloAAOSw6K9lW7r6&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA0HNZjUPk5Ei%2BJmbvOjW%2FMoNd29qNkVqxUWZJuUbbpTRILZmoSdwt%2BkVYu4lehQmdGugXlGv1fOX0xYIsyBQmfsffusNgnLcw8%2FhUDdmDPAuyrxfuvJRsshNq8kD2v2LF6LYJIhS1e2LJgbfSDYsl4Gwsvn7Qp3DcMzYkduH9z2Ay5qg7Q3vJzp3NSoPntIYd2tPhDFtmmPhKPlWsbrwlEx1%2FGrD8VCIUDXsaPk0KXSwIm256%2BeTR8taV8UgXWKko6cnwIoPUKg4nF%2FIDN2Qsl9E%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR7jrqP_OYw

Here's one of them on eBay. Of course, I cannot be 100% sure it'll work without trying it.

Maybe I should look for original MK1 first model hardware (orange/black) but I think it will be almost impossible.

You can use other pads with 2box Mk1 module. But avoid Piezo/switch style. That's things like Yamaha TP/XP pads.

The newer ones should work well as they're piezo/piezo.

You can also get decent results with an acoustic snare with a mesh head and an external rim trigger (like 2box Trigit) or Ddrum, I am told Roland RT can work too.

Internal triggers might be better. In fact, you'd do well with Triggera Intrigs, I used them with a 2box module for quite a while and found them great with Mylar heads! So they'll be good with Mesh. You'll need to increase the gain though compared to Mylar.

There's no shortage of options. With the newest OS available for 2box Mk1 modules you'll have better options for cleaner triggering between head and rim.

Steve

 

I have a pair of Vistalite hihats and that very controller. I bought them off eBay a few years ago, gigged with it for a long time. I don't recall any issues, in fact it was an excellent set up. And I was using a drumit3 at the time.

I no longer have a drumit3 and I stopped using the controller as the little cable broke. It's easily repaired as its only fishing wire, I just haven't got around to doing it.

I also have been using a FD6 with the Vistalite (with an edrumin10 and Pearl Mimic Pro) and that's a great hihat set up.

I cannot say what the LTE cymbals are like, but they look virtually the same as the Jokeky/AE Hybrid Low Valume. I do have some Low Volume cymbals but with Drone Halo triggers, but I stopped using them in favour of a VH11. The edge/bow accuracy is just way better.

Hope this helps!

Anche,
Altri pad funzioneranno con il modulo Mk1. L'unico vero problema che avrai sarà l'hi-hat.
Puoi utilizzare Roland Hi Hat con il modulo Mk1 con una scatola Zourman (vedi Anders qui per informazioni o https://zourman.com)

Anche i piatti ride potrebbero essere un problema se desideri 3 zone, campana, arco e bordo.

Jobeky realizza (o almeno produceva) piatti appositamente per il modulo Mk1 utilizzando un singolo cavo TRS.

Potrebbe essere un'idea inviare loro un messaggio e chiedere se lo fanno ancora.


Also,
Other pads will work with Mk1 module. The only real problem you will have is Hi-Hat.
You can use Roland Hi Hat with Mk1 module with a Zourman box (see Anders on here for information or https://zourman.com)

Ride cymbals might also be a problem if you want 3 zones, bell, bow and edge.

Jobeky make (or they did) cymbals especially for the Mk1 module using a single TRS cable.

It might be an idea to shoot them a message and ask if they still do.

Steve