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e-drum DIY / modifications / Re: Zildjian GEN16 - guess what?
« on: November 16, 2019, 09:35:41 AM »
I still use my GEN16 setup combined with 2Box cymbals. I think they stopped development some years ago ... their software is not MacOS Catalina proof ... not 64bits. doH!

Some talk here:

Just got a demo kit from a closing store, 13/16/18 that I'm integrating in my kit, to be used for recording. Qute promising with a bit of tweaking, especially the hihat!

Setup guides and tips / Re: 2Box MIDI Presets for Superior Drummer 3
« on: October 06, 2019, 10:15:07 AM »
"I tried everything" ... "I think" checked the midi signal output from machine.
Tried CC1 CC4 A#1 stuff like that. It appears that Superior does switch my mapping keys to suit its default synchronizations ya know..

Are you triggering the "Hihat Pedal" articulation? It's the only one that reacts to pedal CC.


I made some job on my Three with 1.32.4 yesterday and the parameter was found in unit mode and the “midi” page.

I am quite sure it is the same for Drumit Five.

Best regards

Anders /

You're absolutely right! Thanks Bud!  :rock:

Where has the pedal CC setting (CC01 or CC04) gone in Drumit 5 v.1.32.4? The pages look different with new parameters and some blank areas. Is there any documentation describing these new parameters?


Setup guides and tips / Re: 2Box MIDI Presets for Superior Drummer 3
« on: August 12, 2019, 07:21:46 PM »
The midi  used by the 2box is weird and to this day I haven't got a clear answer from them as to why is it like that, but I use the SD3 2box mapping that even has two, one for the drumit 5 and one for the drumit 3 and it works perfectly, but there is one detail almost no one knows regarding the hihat part of it: make sure the PED setting in the Unit-MIDI page is set to CC4â–¼!, which sends data continuously and works better for the SD3 hihat.
By default is set to something else, I can't remember, but just set it to the above value and you'll be fine.

Regarding the Drumit 5 HiHat CC it is set to CC01 (modulation wheel) by default, and SD3 reacts to CC04. However, the Drumit 5 preset in SD3 e-drum setting remaps the incoming CC01 to CC04 by default, so it is not necessary to change the Drumit 5 CC-setting if that preset is used (as is, or as template for modifications).

Setup guides and tips / Re: 2Box MIDI Presets for Superior Drummer 3
« on: August 11, 2019, 06:21:20 PM »
I've been using my Drumit 5 kit (3 toms, 3 cymbals) a few years with SD2 and have recently moved everything to SD3 and it works as a charm. Most tweaking have been to ajdust the response of the 2Box to suit my playing style, but I have done a few changes in the SD3 Drumit MIDI map as a result.

Could you please describe what you think is not functioning as you like?

Hey HasseFX or anyone who has this file, sorry to bother, but can you please upload somewhere else? uploadfiles let only pro users to download the file, even registering on free account it doesn't allow to download it. Thanks a lot!

OK, new try, new host. Enabled to 15 May or so, then erased.

Here is the file again!

Link to the 2Box-to-SD2 MIDI MAP (valid until December 19)

You put it in folder:

user/(your user)/Library/Application Support/Toontrack/Superior2/PresetsEZX/MidiPresets/

To use the map - in SD2 window, select the MAPPING tab, and then drop-down-menu Presets (just above the "keyboard") , select MIDI, then User Presets, then 2boxMIDIforSD2


It's quite easy to create a MIDI map in SD2 (in SD3 its available as a preset). I have the 3-cymbal setup and what I did was to assign 3 different crashes to each of the two 2box-crashes (1 each edge, surface, bell).

I'm using my 2box kit mainly as e-drum-pads to trigger to Superior Drummer (now verision 3) and I finally decided to find a fix to be able to use the 2box cymbal choke function to create the MIDI aftertouch messages that many SW drums (including Toontrack) prefer.

Background (requires some knowledge about MIDI):
When you're using the 2box kit as a MIDI controller, pressing the edge of a 2box cymbal generates a NOTE ON message with a number adjacent to the NOTE numbers generated when the bell, surface or edge is hit. Releasing the edge sends the corresponding NOTE OFF message.

My Superior Drummer can achieve cymbal chokes in three ways. Either a choked hit is triggered with a specific MIDI key,  or the cymbal decays as long as a MIDI key is pressed and choked when the key is released, or the cymbal chokes when a MIDI aftertouch message is received - the last method being the best solution using e-drums. However, the 2box solution to use a specific choke MIDI key is not suported.

So what I need to do is to convert the 2box choke MIDI key to the correct MIDI aftertouch message.

This solution is valid for my setup, with the 2box kit with default MIDI mapping, connected to its own MIDI input and Logic X as DAW. It's usable for any drum plugin that accepts aftertouch cymbal chokes. Probably functions similar to what use in Logic X are available in other DAWs too.

- In the Logic X Environment, create a transform module and connect it to between the 2box MIDI input and the sequencer.

- Set the transform module up to convert the specific choke NOTE message to a poly aftertouch message. For example one 2box crash cymbal send a G4 note when the rim is pressed. The transform module converts the G4 note to a poly aftertouch message, for note F4 (which corresponds to the surface hit). 

- Volia!  :rock: ;)  Pressing the 2box cymbal rim chokes the corresponding SD 3 cymbal just as supposed!

A more thorough description would require a detailed Youtube video - but here is the principle; Use the DAWs MIDI message conversion function to convert the NOTE message to poly aftertouch.

- One transform module can handle only one cymbal. To choke also the other one/two, you need one/two additional modules with the corresponding settings. In Logic X the additional modules can be daisy chained.

- A slightly less compclicated solution would be to create channel aftertouch messages instead of poly aftertouch messages. However, choking a cymbal that way will choke all the cymbals in the kit. Using poly aftertouch you can choke just the cymbal you grab while the other(s) keep on ringing.

If you're interested I could go into more detail (especially regarding Logic X). However, it still requires some knowledge about MIDI messages, and MIDI conversions in your DAW (Logic Environments or similar).

Other e-drum systems / Re: ROLAND vs. 2BOX with Superior Drummer
« on: November 27, 2014, 07:03:22 PM »
Honestly, while this is a good find, the reviews from Bonedo are always a bit of a 'grab bag' (as seen here - really a prime example): They talk about latency and test it, but fail to give measurements of any kind (...preferably in ms) !

 ::) ...that's a bit of a D'OH!


But they have - Roland TD-30  3ms, Roland TD15 4ms, 2box Drumit Five 5ms, with screenshots and all!

General 2box Drumit 5 forum / Re: 2box questions from a newbie
« on: November 23, 2014, 09:27:36 PM »
...well I got my kit Friday - probably out of the same batch - and I struggled with the rack for hours, most time devoted to two of the clamps, as I reported in another post.

I got my 2box kit aligned with Superior Drummer 2.0 today. It was pleased to find it quite easy to set up a user MIDI map in SD2 and it works really good. With a good audio interface and fast computer the latency is negligible.

To set up the hi-hat you go to the MIDI mapping tab and right-click the hihat.
- In the "Hats" list to the right, scroll all the way down, right click on hatsTrig, click on MIDI Learn and hit the 2box hi-hat surface.
- Right click on hatsTipTrig, click on MIDI-learn and hit the hi-hat edge
- Right click on hatsCtrl, click on the Note box and type CC1 and hit enter (the 2box hi-hat pedal transmit MIDI Control Change 1, "modulation wheel").

Voila :) Instant full control of the SD2 hi-hat! Remember to save the MIDI Map.

Regarding the SD2 crash cymbals, they come in open and choked voicings but no bell etc. Therefore I decided to put three different crash cymbals on the three 2box crash cymbal zones, giving me instant access to up to six different crash cymbals. ;) I loose the manual choke option though...


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