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Hi !

I've never considered this option, I'm not really familiar with edrumin products but it looks like a serious option if you're just starting with a new hit-hat configuration.

For me it's too pricy tho. I already have all the hardware I need for it to work in theory and I'm really curious about fixing and understanding this issue. Hopefully with the clues Thorsten brought Anders can understand what is hapening and find a way to solve this.

Best regards

François

Hi Thorsten,

Welcome to the thread and thanks for sharing your solutions !

Unfortunatly, I can't disconnect the ground connection on my focusrite because it's usb powered and cutting the ground will result in it not beeing detected by the computer. But I've already tried powering my computer whithout a ground connection and it's not working for me.

Cheers

François

Hi Anders,

Thanks again for your efforts, I hope I'm not causing you to much extra hours...

You've read right, I had a DrumitThree that I've ordered but only to try and see if my module was the origin of the problem, and since the issue was still there with the DrumitThree I've sent it back. So unfortunatelly I don't have a drumitThree anymore...

Best regards

François

Hi Anders,

I've tried doing a calibration after the patch and the results are:

Bottom ATV to 2box HH input : Module detects a HH and after calibration the issue is back as if there is no patch.
Bottom ATV to 2box HH input and Bottom ATV to 2box Line IN : Module detects a HH but after calibration, displays a "Rev" notification on the HH calibration page. After multiple tries the "Rev" message is still here and the HH controller is disable.

Best regards

François

Hi Anders,

I've tried what you've asked me and the results are the same for all configurations :

Cable from bottom ATV to 2box HH intput : The module is acting like there is no HH controller but the top cymbal is playable (full open hh sound)
Cable from bottom ATV to 2box Audio Line IN : Same results as above
Cable from bottom ATV to 2box HH input and cable from bottom ATV to  box Audio Line IN : Same results as above.

(I've also recieved the USB controller for my motherboard and after installing and connecting the focusrite to it, it does not solve the problem either).

Best regards

François

Hi Anders,

Thank you for the update ! I don't know if changing the module will make a difference since I already send back my first one to drumtec (this is the second unit I have). Let me know if you suceed in recreating the issue.

I'm still investigating it here and I've been thinking that a defect off my motherboard usb controller could be the source of the issue (like a ground shortening somewhere). I'm thinking about this because the issue is still present when the computer is unplugged from the wall (with the focusrite plugged in), but it disapears when the focusrite is disconnected from the computer (and I've tried it whith different USB cables). Also my computer is starting to get old so it seems possible that intense use have damaged it in some ways. I've ordered a small PCI usb controller to test this theory and I'm trying to borrow another computer all together (in case the problem is from the motherboard powering itself). I let you know as soon as I can what the results are.

Best regards

François

Here is a picture of my ATV psu

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zw3UaoEJi_Ph3OHlttkemEOu3u5ruexR/view?usp=drivesdk

Best regards

Francois

Hi !

I've tried raising the pfact value but the issue doesn't stop. My values are low I believe because I've removed the bottom cymbal of the hit hat ( that was to loud ) but even with it on, it is still doing the same issue.
My computer is plugged to a different power outlet and for what I can see this outlet is connected to a different phase all together to the electricity meter. Note that even when I unplug the computer from the wall and leave the connections between it and the drumit5 the issue stays.
The issues were exactly the same with the drumit3.

The only thing I came to think of, if you can't replicate the problem on your side, but I don't know if it can be relevant, is that before I moved from my previous appartment I had the same system and it was working decently until (as good as I can remember) the electricity provider changed my electricity meter for à new one that uses cpl technologies to mesure power consuption and sends it to a centrilised system. It is the same electric meter that I have now in my new appartment. I don't know much about electric systems so I can't say why this could change anything or not but this is the only difference I have found whith my previous installation. If you think it can be it, the meter is called Linky and is being deployed all over France by EDF ans RTE companies. I've found some technical data about it online if needed.

I really hope the issue is something simpler than this but it came to my mind yesterday and I thought I should mention it.

Looking foward to your test results

Best regards

François

Hi Anders

I've made a video showing what's going on in my setup for you here

https://youtu.be/oRa8GPZrPzw

(I forgot to tell in the video that the issue is the same when the computer is off and the cable is connected betwin the focusrite and the drumit5)

So far I've tryed and ruled out all of this :

Switching every cable
Plugin only the Hit hat
Reseting module
Switching to original drumit5 OS and Boot
Turning off the computer
Plugin the line in of the drumit5 to the line out of the motherboard of the computer
Plugin to a different computer
Plugin line in with a shorter cable (mine is 4,5 m)
Power every part of the system from different power sockets
Changing module for a drumit3
Changing atv hats for new ones
Changing Zourman conversion module for a new one

So far all of this don't resolve the issue.

I hope the video can help


Best regards

François

Hi Anders !

Thanks a lot for your time and efforts !

Looking forward to learn about your results !
Fingers crossed for a quick fix too !

Best regards


François

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1M4Rk1TFKf1mdwKQ2edlJrTJaYSPh-TOh/view?usp=sharing

Here it is, I hope it's clear enough, if not let me know and I will correct it.


Best regards


François

Thanks again !

If you need more details or even a "wiring" diagram of my setup, I can make it for you.

Best regards

François

Hi Anders !

Thanks for your quick reply!

The serial number of my module is the 1342-11-2020

I'll be glad if it can be fixed, because this issue put aside, everything works great and is really enjoyable to play.

Thanks again,

Best regards

François

Hi everybody !

First I wish you all a happy 2022 !

I'm new here but I've been using 2box since 2013 and recently I have had issues that I don't know how to solve. So I tought maybe around here someone would have a good idea about all this.

Here is my problem :  I have an old drumit5 mark1 that I own since 2013 and I have decided to change my hit-hat. I've purchased an ATV adh-12 and the zourman conversion module. Everything works fine until I plug in something in the Line input or in the midi in or out. When I do that, the Hit hat starts behaving strangely and when I'm almost at the close position, the module starts to send again and again a footsplash loop at top velocity. Keeping the same opening settings and unplugging the line in or midi out and everything comes back to normal.... I've tested every piece of the chain, i've changed every cable, disconnect everything, I've send back the Hit Hat and the conversion module for replacement and it kept happening with the new hardware, so I've ordered a drumit3 module to test if my module was the problem, and the problem is still present with the drumit 3 module... I'm guessing it's related to the electrical power side of things but I'm out of ideas... I've tried pluging the module and the hit hat on different power sockets but nothing changes...
(I should say that when swapping the atv hats for the original 2box ones, everything works as it should even when line in and midi out are connected)

So here I'm am hoping that maybe someone around here have a fresh idea about all this and what can cause this issue. I have no intention to get an original 2box hats again because those are not greats and I use the hats quite a lot in my playing, but I'm thinking that in a last attempt I can try getting a Goedrum foot controller + the zourman conversion module for roland hats and try it that way, maybe whith no extra power needed for the Hit hat the problem can be solved.

So what do you think? Do you have any ideas about what is causing that ?

Thanks a lot !

Fancois