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#1
Thanks, I'll go check it out!
#2
Okay, thanks for the feedback. Normally I don't have any splinters. I play with a VH11 hi-hat and Alesis Surge cymbals. But now that I'm thinking of changing to Jobeky or Diamond I'm hesitant because of splintering. It's a shame that Jobeky and Diamond don't make cymbals without holes anymore. There is of course Field, but they'r way more expensive.
#3
Okay, yes, that makes sense. So I'm facing a challenge here. I've played with SD9 Drivers for 20 years. They don't have those with nylon tips. So I'll have to change type. Bummer. Thanks for the reply, though. It will probably save me mesh heads. :)
#4
I'm thinking of buying a set of low volume/real feel e-cymbals like Jobeky or Diamond. The only thing I'm worried about is the holes in the cymbals and how that affects the wooden tips of my sticks. Anybody here that has experience with these cymbals? Do the tips of your sticks wear off faster by playing hi-hats and ride with holes in them?
#5
I forgot to mention, they're old, metal Surge cymbals. Don't know if that makes any difference...
#6
I'v e always used Alesis Surge cymbals on my 2Box module, but I never got them to choke. Up to now this has not been a big problem for me, because I always used my kit and module for practice and not live, so I never spent time to solve the problem. But now I want to start using it live and it would be nice if I could use the choke function. I tried to play around with the trigger types for cymbals, but that didn't help. None of them get the Surges to choke. I tried various cables, so that's not the problem. And both of my crashes don't choke, so it's probably not due to the cymbals either. Is it even possible to get Surge cymbals to choke on a 2Box module?
#7
Mystery solved. The enigieer does seem to have made a mistake with too much compression. Thanks for the replies.
#8
No, no compression yet. This was just by hearing the rough cuts.  But he could already tell that the cymbals are going to create a problem during the mixing process.
#9
PS I tried to use a shorter decay, but that sounded even more unnatural.
#10
Last week I recorded a demo with my band. I recorded analog via the six (+ 2) out channels of my Drumit5 (MKI)module. For recording we used a Behringer X32 monitor mixer. When mixing the songs we noticed an unnaturally long sustain of the cymbals. The problem occurred with al the cymbal sounds (the normal ones, not the special effect cymbals). While playing on the module using the headphone everything sounded normal (a natural sustain, just like an acoustic cymbal). What could be the problem here? Is it the cymbals? (I use Alesis Surge, probably a bit outdated) Or could it be the way I routed the cymbals? I routed all of them through one out channel instead of stereo, to create room to record every tom seperately. Or could it be something else?
#11
Guess what, I found the culprit! First I tried to place the trigger at the right bottom of the drum, where the cushion is against the head, as to avoid any movement of the head. But the doubles were still there! Then I thouht, let's remove the protection dot... and, no doubles anymore! I wouldn't have thought the dot could be the cause, because it was actually sticking pretty tight to the head.
Now I'm going to experiment with cutting the dot into a smaller size, to see if that works. I do need some protection for the head.
#12
I tried settings AC1 and AC2. The problem actually gets worse then. I tried every setting, but Kick2 works best.
#13
Actually the question shoud be: When I buy an E-kickdrum from ATV or Drum Tec, would I have the same issues?
#14
I use a Drum Tec Designer as my strike head and a Drum Tec basic on the other side (maybe that could be part of the problem too). Actually I don't like my heads too bouncy (on my acoustic kit I always played with a very loose kick head), but I think with my E-kick I have to settle for tight. My pedal is an old Pearl pedal, I don't even know the type. The beater has a felt side as well as a plastic side. I play with the plastic side and have a Drum Tec protection dot on the head.

Thanks everyone for the tips! I guess playing around with all these various things will help getting me there (or close).

I was wondering... would buying an E-kickdrum from for instance ATV or Drum Tec help?
#15
Okay, first I tried another DDrum trigger. That didn't help. Then I tried a 2Box trigger, but the problem was still there. Then I cranked both heads way up and played around with a cushion a little bit, and that helps. It's already way better and I only get the doubles now when I play very firmly. I think my next step will be putting another layer of foam rubber in the drum. That way I can hopefully eliminate the firm hits causing double triggering.

The trigger type I have it set on is Kick2.