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General 2Box Drumit 3 Forum / Re: Snare rim shots
« on: January 23, 2020, 12:02:04 AM »
Thanks Steve. That was exactly the issue.. Was driving me nuts..

General 2Box Drumit 3 Forum / Snare rim shots
« on: January 22, 2020, 09:11:39 AM »
If I pick say the Simon Phillips kit on the D3 that is in position 5 on the module, for example. . .

If i hit the snare I get the snare sound.

If i hit the rim of the snare, I get a rim shot sound.

If i hit them both with one hit, they both sound.. BUT

They are out of sync. It sounds like a flam. This kit is one of many in the module that have the same issue.

I figure I must have the wrong module setting for the snare. I don't want both sounds, especially as they are so badly recorded (out of time). What am i missing here?

General 2Box Drumit 3 Forum / Re: Ride issue
« on: January 18, 2020, 09:14:51 AM »
Not sure why. Some privacy setting I guess.. So much for Vimeo. Next time I'll use YouTube.

General 2Box Drumit 3 Forum / Re: Ride issue
« on: January 15, 2020, 10:29:32 PM »
I fixed this issue, but it sure was a strange one..

The fix was to increase the gain on the ride a few points. From around 8oH to 13oH. This meant the ride was too loud so I had to adjust up the crashes and hats to match then just turn them all down in the mixer.

General 2Box Drumit 3 Forum / Re: Ride issue
« on: January 15, 2020, 04:30:23 AM »
Here is another video showing the same issue happens with the bass drum and the floor tom.

General 2Box Drumit 3 Forum / Ride issue
« on: January 15, 2020, 03:17:32 AM »
My ride ATV ride cymbal works perfectly, as long as I don't play the snare drum..

Might happen with other drums too.. But that it moot point. This is a show stopper.

General 2Box Drumit 3 Forum / 4 crash cymbals?
« on: December 28, 2019, 04:20:48 AM »
It is possible with the D3 to run CYMB1A as two separate crash cymbals? It's a stereo plug and it has 2 different sounds coming out of them in some cases. 

I made a spliter cable and tried two 1 zone cymbals. One did not make any sound at all. The other sounded like it was choaked the moment I hit it.

Seems it's not possible with CYMB1A.

Would it be possible with addition of CYMB1B?  My 2 zone Alesis cymbals only use CYMB1A currently so I don't know what CYMB1B is for.

How can I run 4 single zone crash cymbals on the D3?

Setup guides and tips / Re: Sampling a ride cymbal?
« on: December 13, 2019, 01:46:08 AM »
Good stuff. Thanks Steve.. I plan to have a crack at this in next few days.. If it turns out good I'll share the file here..

Setup guides and tips / Sampling a ride cymbal?
« on: December 11, 2019, 03:56:21 AM »
I have a beautiful old Zildjian K 20" dark ride cymbal that did 100s of shows with me in the  90s and 00s.

I would like to sample this ride to use with my D3 module.. If I am going to do this I want to do it right..

I watch this excellent video from 2Box that shows how simple it is to sample a snare at a bunch of different velocities and turn in into a file used by the D3.

Now there is big difference between a snare and a ride.. One hit on the ride might last 20 seconds +++.

The bell, bow and edge each need a range of different velocity hits.

Needless to say, this would end up a very very large instrument file.

Some compromise would need to be made. My question is, where? How much? I guess this is a art in itself.. Are there any guides on how to sample cymbals?

General 2Box Drumit 3 Forum / Re: ATV 18" ride issue
« on: December 10, 2019, 08:55:03 PM »
:-) But never mentioned that you were running it all through a special cabling with a 37 pin d-sub...

The next day the issue returned.. And i fix it. Turned out to be an intermittent short between CYM2B and HH1.. I had to remove the  37 pin d-sub plug to fix it. I recall when I started this project that was the first rack connector I added.. I got better at it as I went around the kit. :)

General 2Box Drumit 3 Forum / Re: ATV 18" ride issue
« on: December 08, 2019, 11:58:42 PM »
mmm.. The plot thickens. I have tested all the connections.. CYM2B is not shorting with HH1.

HH1 is on pin 5 on my connector. And pin 5 on row 2 of the connector. 
Cym2B is on pin 6. Top and bottom rows on the connector.

If there was a short, it would be easy to spot here with the multimeter.

I check the cable snake, the DB37 plug between pins 5 and 6, top and bottom and all round.

Then I checked from the cable in HH1, with the cable in Cym2B. There is no short there.

Now it gets weird..

I unplugged the HH completely and tried the Ride.. It worked perfectly.

I then plugged the HH back in, AND it worked perfectly too.

They are both working correctly now.. This was either a module glitch or a intermittent issue with the wiring. Both seem unlikely.. The module seems pretty solid and wiring usually works or doesn't. Anyway, this is fixed now..

General 2Box Drumit 3 Forum / Re: ATV 18" ride issue
« on: December 08, 2019, 10:50:40 PM »
Thanks for all your suggestions ANGR77.. But I have worked out the issue.

There is a problem with my 'in rack' wiring. All my pads plug into the rack. That is a topic worthy of it's own tread.. But in a nutshell..... i ran the CUP on the ride directly to the module with a stereo cable. It worked perfectly first go..

I need now a lazy Sunday, a multi meter and probably a soldering iron to work this out and get it fixed. Something is shorting, somewhere. The issue is between CYM 2B and HH 1.

There are bits on my set up easy to test and fix.. There are others that are attached to the rackpipes, that I swore would never have to come off. The nuts are glued in. I'll have to drill them off..

For example. The Cable Snake I have already tested.. It plugs into a DB37 connector that it in the middle of the Rack pipe and a nightmare to get off.

General 2Box Drumit 3 Forum / ATV 18" ride issue
« on: December 08, 2019, 05:07:39 AM »

I recently got a new ATV 18" ride to go with my Drumit 3 module.

But default the ride cymbal sounds are on Cym 2, 'a' and 'b'.

At least that it what I thought.

This cymbal as 2 outputs.. They are labeled Edge and Cup.

If I plug Edge into Cym2 A, I get a nice ride sound.

If I plug Cup into Cym2 B, The whole ride thinks it is a Hi Hat!!! An setting I made to that ride at that time effect the hi hat settings.

What is going on?? Any idea how to fix this?


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