Hello,
since it is not available anymore at the 2Box-Homepage i thought i post a description how to replace the SD-Card or put in a SD-Card-Extender. I received the SD-Card-Extender this morning and couldn't wait to put it in. Here is the description how i did it which is almost the same that was at the homepage:
Please make sure you disconnect the Unit from the mains power, before beginning any work on the Unit. For ESD reasons avoid touching any components or plated areas or wear an ESD strap. On the housing one can read "Warranty void if opened", so do at your own risk.
Required Tools
- Phillips screwdriver
- Torx screwdriver TX10
- Tool to remove nuts (flat pliers works fine)
Step 1
Remove the 3 rotary dial knobs and the level knob from the top panel by pulling them straight up.
(http://www.njnj.de/bilder/SD_Mod_S01.jpg)
Step 2
Take the Phillips screwdriver an unscrew the 4 screws on the 2 MIDI sockets.
(http://www.njnj.de/bilder/SD_Mod_S02.jpg)
Step 3
Unscrew and remove the 18 nuts from the jack sockets.
(http://www.njnj.de/bilder/SD_Mod_S03.jpg)
Step 4
Turn the unit upside down and place it on a soft surface. Unscrew the 5 Torx screws holding the lower lid to the upper orange lid.
(http://www.njnj.de/bilder/SD_Mod_S04.jpg)
Step 5
Gently lift up the front edge of the lower lid and move it down slightly and then backwards to release it from the jack sockets.
Step 6
Remove the bottom lid and you will now see the circuit board. Avoid touching any components or plated areas. Remove the 9 screws holding the circuit board to the upper lid. Lift up the circuit board by holding it at the jack sockets and the edges. Locate the SD-card slot holder on the left hand side.
(http://www.njnj.de/bilder/SD_Mod_S05.jpg)
(http://www.njnj.de/bilder/SD_Mod_S06.jpg)
Step 7
To remove the SD card, ease it out gently from the holder. Now insert your SD-Card-Extender.
WARNING: Be careful to run the flat cable straight out of the module as pictured. If the cable placement is too close to the module corner the cable will be pinched/creased and rendered useless. When placed correctly there is ample room for the cable to slide freely between the module casing and the bottom cover plate.
(http://www.njnj.de/bilder/SD_Mod_S07.jpg)
Step 8
Insert the circuit board back in to position and very gently screw the 9 screws back in to place. There is no need to over tighten the screws. As soon as the screw meets the circuit boards surface you are fine.
Step 9
With the orange lid still upside down, take the lower lid and angle it in to the small recess underneath the jack sockets. Gently pull the front edge towards you and then down to meet the front of the orange metal work, making sure the holes on the lower lid slide over the jack sockets.
Step 10
Gently screw the 5 torx screws back in to position. Again taking care not to over tighten them.
Step 11
Screw all 18 jack socket nuts back on the jack sockets.
Step 12
Screw the 4 MIDI screws back in to place.
Step 13
Turn the unit up again and replace the 3 rotary dial knobs and the level knob. Be aware of the flat marker area inside the knob matching the detent on the shaft.
Step 14
You can use double sided tape to fix card reader on the housing.
(http://www.njnj.de/bilder/SD_Mod_S14.jpg)
Step 15
Insert SD-Card to card reader and test the unit. If everything is okay the unit boots up as normal. If you put in a card with more than 4GB it might take a few seconds more to boot up. To prepare other SD-Cards simply copy operating system, settings-file and sounds from you old card.
(http://www.njnj.de/bilder/SD_Mod_F2.jpg)
(http://www.njnj.de/bilder/SD_Mod_F4.jpg)
Have fun!!
Thanks for taking your time doing this, much appreciated!
Excellent report!
I think that I will upgrade my module too.
congrats you did exactly what i did!!!
and it works awesomely!! nice pics! thanx for you effort to help the community
Great! Where do you get the SD card extender from?
They are hard to find and mostly you have to buy 20 or more pieces. On rare occasions you can find one on eBay. I guess Jman still has some extra as he bougt a pack of 20. Here is link: http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php/topic,919.0.html
Yes, the extenders are not easy to find and finally i got mine from Jman.
In my opinion it is really convenient just to take out the SD-Card and put it in the PC to change/add sounds and playalong songs. And data transfer is much faster since you don't have the USB bottleneck.
Regards, Manfred
Quote from: GenuineHuman on August 28, 2011, 11:24:34 AM
They are hard to find and mostly you have to buy 20 or more pieces. On rare occasions you can find one on eBay. I guess Jman still has some extra as he bougt a pack of 20. Here is link: http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php/topic,919.0.html
This is not true, you can buy them in amounts as small as 1 from Best Buy digital, and they usually have plenty stock. I bought a single cable from them and it is the proper spring loaded connection, works a treat.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280574346428&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:GB:1123 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280574346428&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:GB:1123)
Not sure if they still have stock but worth a try and very cheap.
You can't at the moment. When you bought it it was one of those rare occasions when you can find one on Ebay. The seller you linked to doesn't ship to most of the world.
Quote from: GenuineHuman on August 28, 2011, 06:11:12 PM
You can't at the moment. When you bought it it was one of those rare occasions when you can find one on Ebay. The seller you linked to doesn't ship to most of the world.
My point was you stated the following:
Quote from: GenuineHuman on August 28, 2011, 11:24:34 AM
They are hard to find and mostly you have to buy 20 or more pieces. On rare occasions you can find one on eBay.
Was just pointing out that they are available on e-bay, you do not have to buy 20 pieces, and they aren't hard to find in all countries, some of us are just lucky I guess.
Try contacting the seller direct, they may make an exception...
::)
Quote from: GenuineHuman on August 28, 2011, 07:32:12 PM
::)
Very helpful post GH. If you aren't willing to try contacting the seller direct to see if its a possibility, why complain? In fact, Best Buy digital will send to quite a lot of countries, if you bother to check with them. For anyone who lives in any of the following countries, you should be able to get shipping no problem using the link I posted previously:
Australia, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, Ireland, Japan, Malta, The Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, Portugal, SIngapore, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey and The United Kindom.
Thanks! I always try to be either funny or helpful. Good to know that my posts were helpful, because all I said in my original post was spot on.
P.S. bestbuy digital sold the last extension cable in April. You can't buy one at the moment. Maybe in a couple of weeks or months they will again be available at bestbuy digital or some other seller, but right now it's either Jman or at least 20.
Manfred, thanks for the detailed walk-through. I was going to include an article on how to do the mod in digitalDrummer, but you've done such a great job, there wouldn't be much point!
Hi
I ve just got my new sandisk extreme III 16 go ... i planned to fill it with the 2box site's new dsounds waiting the extender cable i purchased at "E-drum paradise" to arrive in my poste office , but when i inserted it in my PC , windows (XP PRO) asked me to format it before use...
I ve read here that there was no need to format those sandisk extreme III cards , so i prefere to ask instead of making a mess ....
Was it the same for you ?
My windows version is quite old and i just installed the hotfix for SDHC cards... it s an old IBM x40 laptop ...
Probably why there aren't any left in stock - JMan has bought them all! I sent best buy an e-mail to see when stock will be back in, hopefully get a reply soon.
Quote from: edtc on August 29, 2011, 02:19:20 AM
Hi
I ve just got my new sandisk extreme III 16 go ... i planned to fill it with the 2box site's new dsounds waiting the extender cable i purchased at "E-drum paradise" to arrive in my poste office , but when i inserted it in my PC , windows (XP PRO) asked me to format it before use...
I ve read here that there was no need to format those sandisk extreme III cards , so i prefere to ask instead of making a mess ....
Was it the same for you ?
My windows version is quite old and i just installed the hotfix for SDHC cards... it s an old IBM x40 laptop ...
I got that on Windows 7 64bit .... with the Transcend cards .... but did not get the pop up to format the Sandisk extreme cards. I would recommend NOT formatting. You shouldn't need to on a Sandisk Extreme card IMO.
yep , thats what i thought ... i have to try with another computer ...
Quote from: Baby Samus on August 29, 2011, 02:23:10 AM
Probably why there aren't any left in stock - JMan has bought them all! I sent best buy an e-mail to see when stock will be back in, hopefully get a reply soon.
I only bought one from a seller on eBay from the US the first time ... The second time I searched for hours and could find no place that ships to the US .... That is why I bought a lot of 20 from a manufacturer/distributor. Like mentioned earlier it is harder to get these individually in some countries than in others. I knew I would need one for my other module (which I hadn't even bought, but my wheels were already spinning, planning for the future ;)) and figured I would do the lot...
I figured others might run into the same problem depending on where they are in the world ... the reason when I listed em in the classifieds I said .... if you can't find them easily I have some.
The UK and Australia seem to be a couple of the countries that they can be found more readily.
Quote from: edtc on August 29, 2011, 03:33:41 AM
yep , thats what i thought ... i have to try with another computer ...
Another thing I ran into is the internal card reader in my PC gives me problems .... I have a few of these cheapy card readers in my drawer that I use and they work great plugged into a USB port .... but my internal card reader is a waste of space, eventually I need to replace it with one that actually works regularly and not just occasionally ;D!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SD-SDHC-MEMORY-CARD-READER-USB-1GB-2GB-4GB-8GB-16GB-/300575152591?pt=PCC_Drives_Storage_Internal&hash=item45fbacd9cf
anyone out there who will sell an extension cable?
Quote from: spoenk on August 29, 2011, 11:28:26 AM
anyone out there who will sell an extension cable?
contact JMAN ...he may have some left.....
Quote from: digitalDrummer on August 29, 2011, 12:23:47 AM
Manfred, thanks for the detailed walk-through. I was going to include an article on how to do the mod in digitalDrummer, but you've done such a great job, there wouldn't be much point!
Actually this is more or less the description that has been at the 2Box homepage. I just added the pictures and modified 2-3 of the steps slightly. 2Box published this description because there was a batch of modules with bad SD-Cards. So not too much effort for me to post it here again :)
Manfred thanx for this.keep up the good work!
G'day there,
I've just ordered 20 cables and should be getting them within a week or two delivered here to Australia.
Once they've arrived and I've tested them I'll be putting them up for sale in the classified section.
I'll keep everyone informed as I have further info.
Cheers.
Tony
Quote from: 6828 on October 25, 2011, 11:38:45 AM
G'day there,
I've just ordered 20 cables and should be getting them within a week or two delivered here to Australia.
Once they've arrived and I've tested them I'll be putting them up for sale in the classified section.
I'll keep everyone informed as I have further info.
Cheers.
Tony
Aha nice one. Iam interested but 1 problem Iam from the Netherlands...
Quote from: roel on October 27, 2011, 11:40:13 AM
Aha nice one. Iam interested but 1 problem Iam from the Netherlands...
No problem at all, I'll be happy to ship to anywhere in the world. :D
At this stage I'm anticipating postage costs to be between $5 and $20 at the most.
Tony
Quote from: 6828 on October 28, 2011, 12:23:18 PM
No problem at all, I'll be happy to ship to anywhere in the world. :D
At this stage I'm anticipating postage costs to be between $5 and $20 at the most.
Tony
Ok Tony, I will hear it from you.
Cables now available here:
http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php/topic,1056.0.html
(http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php/topic,1056.0.html)
Tony
Its done I just upgrade my module. thank you Tony!
Just want to send a big thanks to Tony (aka 6828). Cable arrived within a week after i placed my order. Nice work! Now i can finally add some more sounds (and wave files)
/Dagger
Just a quick thanks to Manfred and 6828! Finished my cable mod and it went flawlessly thanks to Manfreds instructions and the cable 6828 sold me. :rock:
Yeah, thanks Manfred. Nice guide!
I've had only partial success so far. Here's what happened.
I ordered a Verbatim SDHC 32GB Class 10 card (http://sweburn.com/product.php?productid=1569&cat=0&page=1) and this SD extension from ebay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110803064538).
Well, the extension cable didn't work. And why oh why didn't I test it before I put it in? Incredibly stupid. It is possible that I somehow damaged it when putting the brain together, but I doubt it. So, I decided to go ahead without it, just copy everything to the card and then put it in.
But then, there were issues with the card. Inserted to my iMac, I copied files to it with no evident problems. It showed up as a FAT32 unit with 32 GB to go. But when put it into the 2box brain, the LCD read "unaligned-cluster" and the unit refused to boot.
I figured it had something to do with the formatting, so I re-did it and tried again. Same thing. And when trying to copy some files, my Mac complained about a "finder error -26", which I think is permission related. Just as a test, I put the card in my Nikon camera and formatted it there. Put it back in my computer, copied everything and suddenly, the brain booted and everything seems to work, except accessing it via USB.
Dodgy card, I assume. And dodgy extension cable. Not my lucky day... Well at least I can play all the new sounds...
Update: The seller of the SD extension cable is sending me a new one without any fuzz. Says these things happen and have taken the time to test the one I'm getting now.
Formatting SD cards in Mac and Windows is kind of doggy too. Use this to format SD cards: https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/formatter_3/
I don't reckon the quality control will be up to much on a lot of the SD extenders out there.
Mine was 6gbp from Hong Kong as I remember. Since they were cheap I ordered three,
which turned out to be a good idea as only 1 of the three worked.
Got a nice posh spring loaded one now, courtesy of Jman
Quote from: GenuineHuman on January 26, 2012, 11:10:34 AM
Formatting SD cards in Mac and Windows is kind of doggy too. Use this to format SD cards: https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/formatter_3/
Thanx for the link it works fantastic!
I just ordered a SD extension cable on ebay from a UK seller, it has a black flat-cable which is more convenient for a finished look on the module.
I hope my cable will be ok, I will test it first on my iMac.
Ps: thanks for the link GenuineHuman, I will try that one out.
hey guys,
i did the sd-card mod today. thanks for the very good description. it was easy to make.
Hi to all, im new here : )
i did modification today but a would like to ask if is it ok when extension cabel is bended so close against orange metal body of 2box in the place at the end of card extender. i hope it is not problem in future ? no connection damage ? nobody speak about it here. hope it will works fine for all time : ) thanks for your expirience.
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those flat ribbon cables are quite easily damaged, which is probably the weakest point of the mod.
try and make sure that the cable is free to move when the bottom plate is screwed on.
Quote from: fishmonkey on March 07, 2012, 02:21:18 AM
those flat ribbon cables are quite easily damaged, which is probably the weakest point of the mod.
try and make sure that the cable is free to move when the bottom plate is screwed on.
That's one of the sweet coincidences with the fit of the bottom module plate .... there is enough room for the flat cable to slide through without any pinching and no modification to the hardware is necessary. 8)
i would say it varies from module to module though. although my cable does slide around okay, it definitely has a sharp bend in it from the module case.
recently i have been getting random "FAT Error" messages when starting my module, and i'm hoping it is just the extender cable that is damaged (when it happens, the error occurs with the stock SD card too). it happened one time when i was playing too, resulting in a nice loud blast of white noise in my headphones...
Quote from: fishmonkey on March 07, 2012, 02:39:35 AM
i would say it varies from module to module though. although my cable does slide around okay, it definitely has a sharp bend in it from the module case.
recently i have been getting random "FAT Error" messages when starting my module, and i'm hoping it is just the extender cable that is damaged (when it happens, the error occurs with the stock SD card too). it happened one time when i was playing too, resulting in a nice loud blast of white noise in my headphones...
Hmmmm ... sorry to hear that ... I've never had that happen, but yeah, obviously cables like this can be vulnerable. I'm a firm believer in keeping backups for all this kinda stuff (backups for my cards, backups for the extenders) I kept a backup extender for each of my modules, just in case I ever need it ... I should have kept a few when I bought that lot of em ... that was my plan ... but I kept getting PM's asking if I had one more .... and I was soft-hearted ... ;)
thanks a lot for all your comments, but I meant the place inside of modul , there is place where the card ( and after mod card extender ) is keept firmly in place by two buttress (see the picture : http://www.njnj.de/bilder/SD_Mod_S05.jpg (http://www.njnj.de/bilder/SD_Mod_S05.jpg) )
so there is zero space for cabel and cabel is not only bended but pushed even against this buttress. So nobody is paring this buttress away ? so i hope it will keep the pressure and cable stay alive : )
hi, yes you are right, that is also a possible place where damage to the ribbon cable might occur.
Hi there. My components came in today! Thanks to Tony and Jman. Must wait a cpl of weeks (my 2-Box is the shop-model, was in the shop for just 2 weeks and in good shape) and I can still decide to swap it for a new one when new stock arrives (2-4 weeks from now).
(http://www.vanvugt.org/pics/sdextension.jpg)
Just want to say thanks. My 2box came in from Al at Boom Theory, and I did the mod tonight; took about 30 minutes. Works great, thanks to all of you. Now, I can't wait for the weekend, so I can PLAY.
Is Boom Theory a 2Box dealer? That would be news to most of us...
He will include the Drumit5 as an option for those who are buying his drums.
And now, I'm again in the market for another SD extender. My mod lasted for 2 days. As soon as I moved everything into 'playing position', I began getting FAT errors at boot up. The 4GB card still works fine when directly connected, so perhaps the ribbon cable got too bent.
Executed the mod-operation last night. Prepped a copy of the original SD on my Mac with a Cube Beech kit:
(http://www.vanvugt.org/pics/cubebeech.png)
Then loaded the content to the 32 GB SD. Clicked the new SD in the extender slot and almost as fast as the original the Brain booted up.
(http://www.vanvugt.org/pics/sdkaart.jpg)
Very nice kit, the Cube Beech. Also worked on the Tama Warlord but the snare has too much ambiance to sound cool.
And more more thing: looking at the position of the SD-card on the Brains board I think they considered an external access to the SD-card during the design-phase. It is not too hard to make a SD-slot in the side-panel of the cover.
I wonder why they dropped the idea ... maybe because of costs? However a SD-slot versus the USB-port? Maybe because an US-slot is less vulnerable.
Quote from: Murgen on June 03, 2012, 03:43:01 PM
I wonder why they dropped the idea ...
Well this question seems quite easy to answer. Just look around in this and other threads in the forum. Most SD-Cards on the market don't offer enough performance to work in the 2Box brain without adding too much latency.
Just imagine the discussions and complaints about latency if the card would be accessible. I guess thats the reason why 2Box decided to keep it as it is.
Regards, Manfred
Quote from: Manfred on June 03, 2012, 05:29:07 PM
Well this question seems quite easy to answer. Just look around in this and other threads in the forum. Most SD-Cards on the market don't offer enough performance to work in the 2Box brain without adding too much latency.
Just imagine the discussions and complaints about latency if the card would be accessible. I guess thats the reason why 2Box decided to keep it as it is.
Regards, Manfred
You are prolly very right.
Please notice: If the Cable of the SD-Card-Extender is too long You could get some Problems (Latency, wrong Samples/Instruments are played, ...).
minhe is long but i have no latency etc
I am now in possesion of my 16gb card and extender cable, in fact I've had them for a few weeks but I'm terrified of taking the module to bits to install, I've only had the module 6 weeks, I'm assuming the modification invalidates my warranty with 2Box ?
With that said has anybody had an issues with the module in general and had to to return / get a replacement ?
Cheers G
Quote from: GeeMo on August 17, 2012, 02:19:31 PM
I am now in possesion of my 16gb card and extender cable, in fact I've had them for a few weeks but I'm terrified of taking the module to bits to install, I've only had the module 6 weeks, I'm assuming the modification invalidates my warranty with 2Box ?
With that said has anybody had an issues with the module in general and had to to return / get a replacement ?
Cheers G
The only thing you have to worry about , is to be really carefull when unscrewing or screwwing ... the threads are a bit fragile .... the screws are directly in the aluminium cast and its easy to damage the threads ... try to use the best fitting screwdriver , so you dont have to force too much ...
If you take your time , everything will be turn to be ok ;)
Quote from: GeeMo on August 17, 2012, 02:19:31 PM
I am now in possesion of my 16gb card and extender cable, in fact I've had them for a few weeks but I'm terrified of taking the module to bits to install, I've only had the module 6 weeks, I'm assuming the modification invalidates my warranty with 2Box ?
With that said has anybody had an issues with the module in general and had to to return / get a replacement ?
Cheers G
It's all at own risk of course. I won't "officially" recommend the mod. But unofficially I definitely feel the benefits are excellent. Access to the card, easily load or change cards with new OS, sounds, etc... lots more space for samples.
Personally it hasn't scared me in the least. The instructions for disassembly of the module that Manfred posted originally came from the 2Box website and were supplied for those that had one of a bad batch of memory cards in their module. So, it is basically the same procedure, except you are plugging in an extender/card that will stay outside the module.
And ... no, at least to my knowledge, no one has posted saying they have screwed up their module during or after the mod ..... but eventually someone will probably find a way to do something incredibly stupid like leave the module plugged in when disassembling, or dropping their ice cream cone in the open module, or, or .... ;D ;) ;D ::)
One thing to note is the hex nuts. Make sure you use a good quality screwdriver to take them out. I tried with a cheapie and couldn't budge them. When I used a decent tool, they came out much more easily.
Thanks for the advice guys, I really appreciate it !
the best tool i have in my toolkit for loosening the plastic hex nuts is right-angled needle nose pliers, like these:
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Nonslip-right-angle-6-needle-long-nose-plier-Pro-Kit-/00/$(KGrHqQOKk!E3v6Mu14+BOFVEmo!mQ~~0_35.JPG)
once you've gently loosened them a little you can unscrew them with your fingers...
Quote from: GeeMo on August 18, 2012, 12:17:09 AM
Thanks for the advice guys, I really appreciate it !
I did the modification in June and just relax, follow the instructions, never panic and never use force. Easy does it. Make sure you do not touch any electronic part on purpose and best: touch something metal connected to earth to avoid statical charges before you open the module.
It still works like a charm and I have got some nice extra kits in there. Cube Beech is my favourite.
Quote from: fishmonkey on August 18, 2012, 12:57:58 AM
the best tool i have in my toolkit for loosening the plastic hex nuts is right-angled needle nose pliers, like these:
once you've gently loosened them a little you can unscrew them with your fingers...
I was actually referring to the screws holding the main board in place. They're tricky buggers without the right tool.
New to the Forum here and new to 2Box.
anywho I ordered an extender but then decided to make a hole in my 2box to facilitate me removing the card. Gig too much and carting the 2box around with a fragile cable hanging out of it may cause me more issues, Failures etc.
so to the drill and the Dremel and carved out a nice sized hole where I can reach in with a pair of needle nose and pull the card...
I cover the hole with a piece of cut gorilla tape for now until I get a piece thick rubber that I can cut to fit and put in the hole. it will push in against the card to prevent the card from loosening up and still leave me enough to grab if needed.
I plan to use a Sandisk Extreme Pro Class 10 32GB card.. Right now 2box is using a 4GB ATP Pro card (Class 10)
By the way the extenders are available at Amazon.com :) $18.99
Perhaps this was mentioned somewhere else in the forum, but can you install the 32GB card directly into the unit? Id rather go that rout than have something sticking out of my module.
Quote from: stickcharmer on January 24, 2013, 01:25:44 AM
Perhaps this was mentioned somewhere else in the forum, but can you install the 32GB card directly into the unit? Id rather go that rout than have something sticking out of my module.
Yes, you can put the card directly in the card slot in the module. The problem with changing to a SDHC card larger than 4GB that way is you cannot access any data using USB connection (USB will only work on 4GB or less in the module). So you can't load new files, delete files, update your OS if desired, etc ..... basically whatever you put in is what you are stuck with until you crack open your module again.
Thanks for the Info!
Had few minutes today so I went ahead and did this. Literally took me 20 minutes form beginning to end....gathering tool and all. 30 minutes if you count the 10 minutes it took me to slap shiny chrome finish on the case with some sign vinyl I had laying around. ;) I'd post a pic...but I can't seem to figure it out. ::)
Thanks for the pics and walk through....made this super easy. :rock:
Quote from: fulrmr on March 26, 2013, 06:37:29 PM
Had few minutes today so I went ahead and did this. Literally took me 20 minutes form beginning to end....gathering tool and all. 30 minutes if you count the 10 minutes it took me to slap shiny chrome finish on the case with some sign vinyl I had laying around. ;) I'd post a pic...but I can't seem to figure it out. ::)
Thanks for the pics and walk through....made this super easy. :rock:
Glad to hear you had success ... told ya it was easy! The only way I know of for loading pics is you need the image uploaded on the net somewhere ... then you can just click the Insert Image tab and paste the link between the boxes. J
Quote from: Jman on March 26, 2013, 06:56:49 PM
Glad to hear you had success ... told ya it was easy! The only way I know of for loading pics is you need the image uploaded on the net somewhere ... then you can just click the Insert Image tab and paste the link between the boxes. J
I tried that with my HH controller thread from the pics on vdrums forum...and no one can see them unless they are a member there. I'll try again though.
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/483872_404584296306069_854895539_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/392718_404584272972738_305895375_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/482799_404584246306074_438619151_n.jpg)
Did it work?
O yes, it did. Saw the pics on vdrums but boy, you bring the bling-bling in the 2Box. ;D
Hello everyboy,
I've changed my SD card for 32Gb one and everything run good. The only thing is that I can't open USB connection through my computer, it ask to format the SD card. Do you have met the same problem?
Thank for your help.
With the mod the USB port on the 2Box cannot be used anymore. it cannot address more then 4 GB. Just take the SD from the extender slot and insert it in the cardslot on your PC, laptop or iMac and transfer the files from there into your SD. Switch off the power before you eject/insert the SD in the module. I find this a lot easier then hooking up the module, haven't got a PC in my drumcabin, just iPad.
Quote from: Murgen on March 27, 2013, 07:41:46 AM
O yes, it did. Saw the pics on vdrums but boy, you bring the bling-bling in the 2Box. ;D
Thanks...but I don't think mine worked. When I open the post up to modify...they don't look like the links I inserted. But as long as the community can see it. ;)
Quote from: Murgen on March 27, 2013, 09:33:45 PM
With the mod the USB port on the 2Box cannot be used anymore. it cannot address more then 4 GB. Just take the SD from the extender slot and insert it in the cardslot on your PC, laptop or iMac and transfer the files from there into your SD. Switch off the power before you eject/insert the SD in the module. I find this a lot easier then hooking up the module, haven't got a PC in my drumcabin, just iPad.
Thank for your answer, then I'll buy an extender.
Quote from: olijack on March 28, 2013, 07:53:14 PM
Thank for your answer, then I'll buy an extender.
wait...why are you buying another extender? Didn't you already do the mod?
Quote from: fulrmr on March 28, 2013, 10:28:36 PM
wait...why are you buying another extender? Didn't you already do the mod?
He put the 32GB card directly into the module without an extender ... not very practical, because the only way to access it to delete or add dsnds or update OS, etc. .... is to open the module again.
Quote from: Jman on March 28, 2013, 11:05:04 PM
He put the 32GB card directly into the module without an extender ... not very practical, because the only way to access it to delete or add dsnds or update OS, etc. .... is to open the module again.
Ahh...I read it like he already did the mod. But even after the mod...you can't use the usb any more...correct?
Quote from: fulrmr on March 29, 2013, 01:59:34 AM
Ahh...I read it like he already did the mod. But even after the mod...you can't use the usb any more...correct?
2Box USB won't work with more than 4GB cards. So when you do the mod and use the larger cards no USB connection with the module. But it is actually faster and easier IMO to use the card in a card reader with your computer. You can still do all the things you normally do like update OS, add, delete, rename files. Use the 2Box editor or Dsoundtool, etc ... and faster too.
Quote from: Jman on March 29, 2013, 03:34:01 AM
2Box USB won't work with more than 4GB cards. So when you do the mod and use the larger cards no USB connection with the module. But it is actually faster and easier IMO to use the card in a card reader with your computer. You can still do all the things you normally do like update OS, add, delete, rename files. Use the 2Box editor or Dsoundtool, etc ... and faster too.
Cool. Thanks. That's kinda what I thought. :)
I thought in the begining that put 32Go in module + use the USB was possible to access on directory and change it, but unfortunately no. I've bought an extender and today that works.
:drum1:
Just as a warning when running the card extender cable to the outside of the module be sure to do it as pictured in Manfred's description/photo .... DO NOT GO TOO CLOSE TO THE CORNER .... if you look closely at the photos you will see a groove in the orange case that runs about 2/3 the distance of the module side, and if you keep your cable in that area things will work fine. The cable should have enough space to actually slide easily when the bottom panel is put back on. If you go to close to the corner you will crease the cable and render the extender useless.
Manfred, if you happen to see this post ..... I hope you don't mind, I put a Warning about this in Step 7 of the instructions. I know of at least 3 people that have put the cable near the corners and ruined them that way.
Quote from: Jman on November 15, 2013, 02:19:39 AM
Manfred, if you happen to see this post ..... I hope you don't mind
Of course I don't mind. Improvements are always welcome.
Regards, Manfred
Quote from: GenuineHuman on January 26, 2012, 11:10:34 AM
Formatting SD cards in Mac and Windows is kind of doggy too. Use this to format SD cards: https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/formatter_3/
Thanks!! this tip gut me back on track :-)
Hi guys,
I`m a newbie in here although I`m definetly not new to e-drumming..... currently I´m waiting for my 2box module to arrive and started catching up with everything related to it by working myself through this great forum! Now:
It seems to me that beefing up the flash RAM is an absolute must since I plan to convert a lot of stuff from AD. Since I`m a trained electronic technician the conversion described at the start of this thread won`t be a problem- there simply aren`t any true "electronic" skills needed for it... what I can`t really understand is why obviously nobody simply cuts a hole to the side of his module to gain an easy access to the card slot which is already there?
I read a lot about problems with cards that won`t boot as soon as they´re in the external reader due to the long cable, so accessing the internal slot IMHO would be the perfect work-around? So why is it that nobody just does it this way? As soon as you just open up the module your factory warranty has run out anyway....
Regards,
Wolfgang
Simple, cutting a hole throught a rather thick metalic casing is harder and not reversable. From the design / location of the SD-mount on the print I'm convinced it was intented to have an external slot. However, not many SD cards qualify and why take the risk 2Box get a bad rep because of inferior 3rd party SD card suppliers?
Also cutting a hole in the side of the module will invalidate your warranty. Using the cable extender means the whole process is reversible too.
Reversable - reversible ... This Drumming Dutchman needs a spell checker in his iPad Safari. :animal:
Quote from: Murgen on February 08, 2014, 12:54:01 PM
Reversable - reversible ... This Drumming Dutchman needs a spell checker in his iPad Safari. :animal:
With the Modify tab .... posts are like the external card slot ..... reversible ;)
Quote from: Brian-D on February 08, 2014, 11:46:24 AM
Also cutting a hole in the side of the module will invalidate your warranty. Using the cable extender means the whole process is reversible too.
Moot point really. Pretty sure the user guide says just opening the brain is enough to void the warranty.
Hm, I have an open mind to that..
Quote from: geo on March 19, 2014, 05:05:02 PM
Moot point really. Pretty sure the user guide says just opening the brain is enough to void the warranty.
Not really, there is no warranty info or warnings about opening the module at all in the User Guide. I'm not saying that it is a green light to open the module. But I do know that we originally got the step by step guide with pictures for opening up the module and changing the SD card from 2Box. There was a batch of modules years back that had problems with the SD card. So some people opted to change their own cards with the company's blessing. And doing the external card mod is basically as simple as changing the internal memory card. Unless someone has a bizarre accident like spilling their beer in the open case, it is simple and won't alter or harm the module as long as care is taken during the process.
Quote from: Airwolf One on April 03, 2014, 12:34:00 PM
SD CARD NOT WORKING_CAN YOU PLEASE HELP?
Hello,
I've followed all the tips for replacing the SD CARD of the brain module of the DRUMIT FIVE, including formatting the card to DOS (FAT) and then copying the files from the original 4GB SD card to a 16GB SD card.
After installing the new SD card, I switch on the brain and it reports:
"DrumIt_Five
FAT_S_0512_C_08k
SerNr Boot OS
00996 1.30 1.26"
and from there it does not load. By pressing any of the buttons of the brain it just stays on the screen.
What could be the problem?
Maybe because of this?
Original 4GB SD card is a class 6
New 16 GB SD card is a class 10
Or maybe because of this?
The new 16GB SD card has been formatted with a Mac, using DOS (FAT) as a format setting (at the moment I don't have a pc for checking if this is the reason)
What else could it be?
Thank you for the consideration and any help you could offer me
Alberto
airwolfone@gmail.com
http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php?topic=1941.msg17330#msg17330
Quote from: Jman on April 03, 2014, 01:17:32 PM
http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php?topic=1941.msg17330#msg17330
Thank you ! It worked!
Did the mod which thx to the great people on this site was pretty straight forward - unfortunately the extension ribbon I got from eBay was faulty so im looking for another - if anyone has a link to a better seller than the one I used/or site - that would be awesome - also do all these ribbons read cards of 32 gig or should I be looking for a certain type ? sorry for questions but pc stuff is definitely not my strong point,
must say a huge thx to Lustar too for his superb program and his help getting things on my card
Got my SD card extension off ebay. Took a long while to get here (free shipping from China), but works like a charm after installation (thanks for the guide).
However, I noticed when it arrived that it had 2-16 GB printed on it. Does that mean that I can't use any SD card larger than 16 GB? Not that it matters much, but it would be annoying to buy a larger one and find out it doesn't work.
I just successfully completed this modification using these two items:
Lexar Professional 1000X 32GB SD card - It came in a retail box.
https://www.amazon.com/Lexar-Professional-UHS-II-Software-LSD32GCRBNA1000/dp/B00PLENZF2
This SD extender cable
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00879U4O8/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I transferred the files from the 4GB card (that was in the 2Box module) to the new 32GB card. I also added the sounds from the E-Nerd kit, and then used the new 32GB card in the 2Box to create a new kit from those sounds on the 2Box interface. Everything works the way it should.
The cladding on the ribbon cable of the extender shown above is thin, so I covered it with electrical tape where it passes through the bottom cover of the 2Box. This provides a little extra insurance that the bottom cover will not cut through and short the ribbon cable wires.
Hello!
I did 32 GB mod and have some issues. I don't know how to explain, when I play drums, I hear some noise beside drum sound. Not when hit single pad, but when play two or more pads fast, then I hear that sound. Feels like cable cracks. Hope you understand what I mean, my english is not so good.
When I put original 4 GB card in extender, everything is ok. That means the problem is in new SD card.
I use Lexar SD card (found in compatibily list).
Did anyone had same problem? How to solve it?
Thanks in advance.
Quote from: drabotic on December 26, 2017, 06:08:23 PM
I use Lexar SD card (found in compatibily list).
Did anyone had same problem? How to solve it?
Thanks in advance.
Sounds like an SD problem. Is it the exact model on the compatibility list - and did you get it from a reputable source? There are lots of counterfeit cards out there.
Quote from: digitalDrummer on December 28, 2017, 07:32:03 AM
Sounds like an SD problem. Is it the exact model on the compatibility list - and did you get it from a reputable source? There are lots of counterfeit cards out there.
Here is the card I use:
(https://thumb.ibb.co/djWhPw/lexar.jpg) (https://ibb.co/djWhPw)
I bought it on ebay so I don't know is it fake or not... Package was original... Looks like I must try with another card...
Thanks for help... :rock:
How road worthy is this after the mod? I use my brain with my cover band and would like to expand it, but do not want to worry about it jiggling loose in the case bouncing around the trailer.
Quote from: JoeyD on June 20, 2019, 08:47:37 PM
How road worthy is this after the mod? I use my brain with my cover band and would like to expand it, but do not want to worry about it jiggling loose in the case bouncing around the trailer.
Well, whether you do the card mod or not I would highly recommend putting your module in a padded case when transporting. If it is in a padded case it would be fine with or without the card mod. Electonic modules and bouncing around don't work well together. There are lots of drummers gigging that have done the Card mod though for sure.
Just completed this mod myself. Had a kit for years, and hadn't played in a while, but getting back into it again and finally decided to get this hooked up.
Easy, ordered my extender from Amazon (Canada) and used a fast 32GB Samsung SDHC card that I was using in my work DSLRs. I was all ready with a bunch of different cards to try and it worked first try.
Thanks to OP for detailed walkthrough, and the link for SD card formatter.
Hi is there any chance to get photos? They appear to be removed
Quote from: Manfred on August 26, 2011, 08:41:48 PM
Hello,
since it is not available anymore at the 2Box-Homepage i thought i post a description how to replace the SD-Card or put in a SD-Card-Extender. I received the SD-Card-Extender this morning and couldn't wait to put it in. Here is the description how i did it which is almost the same that was at the homepage:
Please make sure you disconnect the Unit from the mains power, before beginning any work on the Unit. For ESD reasons avoid touching any components or plated areas or wear an ESD strap. On the housing one can read "Warranty void if opened", so do at your own risk.
Required Tools
- Phillips screwdriver
- Torx screwdriver TX10
- Tool to remove nuts (flat pliers works fine)
Step 1
Remove the 3 rotary dial knobs and the level knob from the top panel by pulling them straight up.
(http://www.njnj.de/bilder/SD_Mod_S01.jpg)
Step 2
Take the Phillips screwdriver an unscrew the 4 screws on the 2 MIDI sockets.
(http://www.njnj.de/bilder/SD_Mod_S02.jpg)
Step 3
Unscrew and remove the 18 nuts from the jack sockets.
(http://www.njnj.de/bilder/SD_Mod_S03.jpg)
Step 4
Turn the unit upside down and place it on a soft surface. Unscrew the 5 Torx screws holding the lower lid to the upper orange lid.
(http://www.njnj.de/bilder/SD_Mod_S04.jpg)
Step 5
Gently lift up the front edge of the lower lid and move it down slightly and then backwards to release it from the jack sockets.
Step 6
Remove the bottom lid and you will now see the circuit board. Avoid touching any components or plated areas. Remove the 9 screws holding the circuit board to the upper lid. Lift up the circuit board by holding it at the jack sockets and the edges. Locate the SD-card slot holder on the left hand side.
(http://www.njnj.de/bilder/SD_Mod_S05.jpg)
(http://www.njnj.de/bilder/SD_Mod_S06.jpg)
Step 7
To remove the SD card, ease it out gently from the holder. Now insert your SD-Card-Extender.
WARNING: Be careful to run the flat cable straight out of the module as pictured. If the cable placement is too close to the module corner the cable will be pinched/creased and rendered useless. When placed correctly there is ample room for the cable to slide freely between the module casing and the bottom cover plate.
(http://www.njnj.de/bilder/SD_Mod_S07.jpg)
Step 8
Insert the circuit board back in to position and very gently screw the 9 screws back in to place. There is no need to over tighten the screws. As soon as the screw meets the circuit boards surface you are fine.
Step 9
With the orange lid still upside down, take the lower lid and angle it in to the small recess underneath the jack sockets. Gently pull the front edge towards you and then down to meet the front of the orange metal work, making sure the holes on the lower lid slide over the jack sockets.
Step 10
Gently screw the 5 torx screws back in to position. Again taking care not to over tighten them.
Step 11
Screw all 18 jack socket nuts back on the jack sockets.
Step 12
Screw the 4 MIDI screws back in to place.
Step 13
Turn the unit up again and replace the 3 rotary dial knobs and the level knob. Be aware of the flat marker area inside the knob matching the detent on the shaft.
Step 14
You can use double sided tape to fix card reader on the housing.
(http://www.njnj.de/bilder/SD_Mod_S14.jpg)
Step 15
Insert SD-Card to card reader and test the unit. If everything is okay the unit boots up as normal. If you put in a card with more than 4GB it might take a few seconds more to boot up. To prepare other SD-Cards simply copy operating system, settings-file and sounds from you old card.
(http://www.njnj.de/bilder/SD_Mod_F2.jpg)
(http://www.njnj.de/bilder/SD_Mod_F4.jpg)
Have fun!!
Hi All,
Thanks everybody envolved in this topic. I appreciate your time to shear your wisdom and experience to the rest. This forum Rocks!
Anyway I'd like to shear mine weird experience with doind this mod, so maybe it will bring more positive thinking after you tighten all of your srews sit comfortably and see how the module doesn't read the sd card through the extender after all... I did every step, I was extremaly careful with extender so much i even fold back the casing with a pilers. I was pretty sure that everything is one big success. Until i put original card and find out that it isn't working. No usb mode error appear with no other option than switch off tje module. I straighten up the cable and tried again... Then it worked. I figured out that this is the only position for the extender snake to work with the card. At that time I decided to resign from extender as it seems to be somehow damaged and buy the sdhc lexar 32gb 1000x card and put that card straight to the module... So i bought it and i was not that simple as very little shops had it on sale. I decided to give the last chance for the use of extender. I put the new card to the hub and guess what?.... Everything started to work! I bend the extender snake in almost every position(of course carefully, no more than 90 deg) and the new card was reading without any error, without any delay and it is working till now I did the mod a month ago and played several time with no issues. Why it suddenly started to work with new card rahter than with original one through the extender? Nothing as it seems. Maybe some day we will now. Wish you the same luck!
Cheers
Michal
Just as a heads-up for anyone wanting a tried and tested SD card and extension cable - and in 32GB and 64GB (!!) options - check out this Swedish company called Zourman Drums:
https://zourman.com/product/32gb-2box-card-mod-kit/
https://zourman.com/product/2box-64gb-card-mod-kit/
(It's not my company; I'm simply a person who's just purchased 2 x 32GB mod kits from them for my Drumit Five mk1 version and I am looking forward to them arriving in the post soon :) ).
Cheers.