Hi, Scott you might be best to try and answer this?
Does 2box have a MIDI map for use with BFD? I'm struggling to set up manually as the documentation appears to be wrong... and so does BFD?
In the manual it says that the kick is on note C2
In the Brain it says the kick is C0
If I use the learn function in BFD (you press this then the pad you want to assign) it says C1
So I am very confused... also it's not easy to figure out which notes chokes are or rims of drums, as it seems there is no consistency between the 3 areas?
Anyone shed any light?
Thanks
Neil
Hi Neil
Ok i got a reply from the guys at 2box about your question, and here it is:
Assign the MIDI note numbers according to the Manual.
Choke is not working in 0.36. So forget the note numbers in the Unit just follow the Manual.
Does this help at all to solve your issue?
Thanks
Scott
I will give it a try tonight!
Thanks Scott.
No problem Neil.
Let me know how you get on with it ;D
Thanks
Scott
Quote from: Scottie on August 11, 2009, 01:56:29 PM
Hi Neil
Ok i got a reply from the guys at 2box about your question, and here it is:
Assign the MIDI note numbers according to the Manual.
Choke is not working in 0.36. So forget the note numbers in the Unit just follow the Manual.
Does this help at all to solve your issue?
Thanks
Scott
I can't belive they released the kit with an os that isn't even version 1.00 xD. Very happy that they did though, my patience was seriously wearing thin and it's working fine anyway ;).
I think the reason is, they delivered only Test-Sets for shops til now...
Theo
Quote from: Scottie on August 11, 2009, 01:56:29 PM
Hi Neil
Ok i got a reply from the guys at 2box about your question, and here it is:
Assign the MIDI note numbers according to the Manual.
Choke is not working in 0.36. So forget the note numbers in the Unit just follow the Manual.
Does this help at all to solve your issue?
Thanks
Scott
OK... tested with Kick
Opened Cubase, opened BFD, sorted MIDI inputs and outputs
Turned on Brain, went to Unit, Conf, Kit.
Here's the issue: Brian says C0, Manual says C2.
I put in C0 in the BFD map for the kick and nothing triggers, I use the Learn function in BFD and it picks up C1.
Snare is same. Brain says D0, Manual says F2, BFD Learn says D1.
So there is some confusion somewhere?
Quote from: NeilC on August 12, 2009, 06:50:53 AM
Quote from: Scottie on August 11, 2009, 01:56:29 PM
Hi Neil
Ok i got a reply from the guys at 2box about your question, and here it is:
Assign the MIDI note numbers according to the Manual.
Choke is not working in 0.36. So forget the note numbers in the Unit just follow the Manual.
Does this help at all to solve your issue?
Thanks
Scott
OK... tested with Kick
Opened Cubase, opened BFD, sorted MIDI inputs and outputs
Turned on Brain, went to Unit, Conf, Kit.
Here's the issue: Brian says C0, Manual says C2.
I put in C0 in the BFD map for the kick and nothing triggers, I use the Learn function in BFD and it picks up C1.
Snare is same. Brain says D0, Manual says F2, BFD Learn says D1.
So there is some confusion somewhere?
Hi Neil
Right something doesn't seem quite right does it. Leave it with me and i will see what i can find out for you :)
Thanks
Scott
Hi Scott, any progress on this?
Cheers
to cut one thing out of the equation, i'd suggest using a MIDI spying app to see what actual MIDI messages you are getting from the Brain...
good free options are MIDI Monitor for the Mac, or MIDI-OX for Windows...
then you can at least build yourself a map of what is where while you wait for an update to the Brain software...
Quote from: fishmonkey on August 16, 2009, 04:45:33 AM
to cut one thing out of the equation, i'd suggest using a MIDI spying app to see what actual MIDI messages you are getting from the Brain...
good free options are MIDI Monitor for the Mac, or MIDI-OX for Windows...
then you can at least build yourself a map of what is where while you wait for an update to the Brain software...
Ah, Thta's good thinking Fishmonkey! Will give it a whirl.
OK I gave MIDI-OX a whirl, a very neat little application.... my findings:
I am confused how the zoned cumbals work.... ie I would assume that each zone refers to a MIDI note? so I found that I can change the note for the 'crash' of the cymbal, but I cannot figure out how to change the note for the Bell?
Also similar for the skins and rims, I think I managed to sort this, but it;s not too clear.
Also somewhere between my kit and BFD, the MIDI notes are being transposed because what I dial in on the kit doesn't correspond woth the note in BFD learn function.
Scottie any chance of an update on this?
Thanks
Neil
Hey Neil
Just wanted to quickly say that i haven't been in the office for a while, as my other half gave birth to our first child ;D So i am just taking a little bit of time off.
Have you had any luck with this?
Thanks
Scott
Hi Scott, congrats!!!
Not really, see the post above yours.... very weird....
Cheers
Neil
Hey Scott, Congrats!!!! ;D
Boy or Girl? We´ve got our second Girl in February, so i know, what´s comming up to you the next weeks and months :-p, and don´t forget to buy Pampers *lol*
Theo
Quote from: TrommelTheo on August 18, 2009, 09:07:20 PM
Hey Scott, Congrats!!!! ;D
Boy or Girl? We´ve got our second Girl in February, so i know, what´s comming up to you the next weeks and months :-p, and don´t forget to buy Pampers *lol*
Theo
Hey Theo
Sorry i didn't see your message. We had a little Girl, has been a lot of fun so far ;D amazing how much she is changing each day! Congrats to you as well mate!
Also Neil just to let you know i am back on the case of this issue for you. Have you had any other results in the time that i was off?
Thanks
Scott
Not really mate....
Was messing around last night with the MIDI notes and seeing what triggers what etc... I recorded into cubase and opened the midi editor and can see where they are triggering, but is deffo not what it says in the manual!
hi guys. id like to ask a midi question
are MIDI notes in 2box and the Drum Voices totally independent of each other, so changing MIDI notes has no effect out the sounds they make? or reassigning midi notes has a direct effect on how the kit sounds?
i want to reassign the midi notes, so that i can use a device called midi pro adapter to connect the 2box with my xbox360 so that i am able to play rock band...
also in the manual it says
NOTE selects the MIDI note for the note on and off messages. If the
associated trigger type has more than one zone (like cup, bow and
edge), the additional zones are mapped onto consecutive higher
notes. Click the dial to switch between note name and note number.
MIDI note 0 corresponds to C-1 and note 60 to C4.
thing is, there is no dial button in the brain, tried everything and it cant change between note name and note number...
thanx for the replies
Quote from: BURNIN AMBITION on April 07, 2011, 11:45:54 PM
changing MIDI notes has no effect out the sounds they make?
No effect on the kit sounds
Quote from: BURNIN AMBITION on April 07, 2011, 11:45:54 PM
thing is, there is no dial button in the brain, tried everything and it cant change between note name and note number...
You can turn (make roll) one of the three buttons down the screen, but you can also click on them.
Here, you have to press on the middle button to display the values of the midi notes.
Quote from: nonoduweb on April 08, 2011, 06:58:47 AM
No effect on the kit sounds
You can turn (make roll) one of the three buttons down the screen, but you can also click on them.
Here, you have to press on the middle button to display the values of the midi notes.
i am so happy the notes doesnt change the sound of the kit!!!!
if i tell you that i didnt know that you can press on the buttons i know you will laugh at me
anyway thank you so much
Quote from: BURNIN AMBITION on April 08, 2011, 07:29:06 AM
if i tell you that i didnt know that you can press on the buttons i know you will laugh at me
I discovered this recently.
When they made the module, the 2box team didn't think that it would be used only by drummers...
;)