The OS for the fame modul which is a modified drumit 3 is now available to download from here: https://www.musicstore.de/de_DE/EUR/Fame-Hybrid-Pro-Sound-Modul/art-DRU0039596-000 (https://www.musicstore.de/de_DE/EUR/Fame-Hybrid-Pro-Sound-Modul/art-DRU0039596-000)
If you're feeling adventurous and want to try it on your 2box module go ahead.
Not sure what's going on but I don't see any mention of a software download on that page? I changed the language to English, can't imagine that would break it lol. Is there a direct link or any mention of what is changed?
Edit: Apparently changing the language did in fact hide the download. Very odd, but got it now.
Well my 2box Drumit5 MKII runs just fine on 1.40.0.
There is now an SCHAN On/Off in the UNIT MIDI.
I can't see any other new settings in the UNIT or KIT menus. No new FX, Hihat feels the same, etc. No noticeable difference in triggering except my crashes did need adjusting. Everything triggers very well I must add.
I need to test this also!
I would estimate that there will be a new editor also attached to this OS...and vendor.
Best regards
Anders / www.Zourman.com
If Cross stick is finally recognized by MIDI I will be very, very happy. This may not actually show up as a new option if it is tied to the main snare or rim note numbers; it may be one note further. I will have to test and see...
Well here's some good news; 2box now sends aftertouch!
Depends on which notes you use, it works in SD3 with:
Crash 1: F4
Crash 2: F5
Ride: B4
Still can't identity what SCHAN does but it's certainly not XStick or Positional Sensing (on note 6) still only 2 zone snares with 1.40.0
Interesting. 2Box has told me directly (as well as a few others) that MIDI cross stick would definitely be in the next official firmware. We will see. I don't know why this site has it posted before 2Box themselves or if it is even finished (I would assume not since they haven't posted it...)
Quote from: Karbonfaiba on June 30, 2021, 06:58:22 PM
Well my 2box Drumit5 MKII runs just fine on 1.40.0.
There is now an SCHAN On/Off in the UNIT MIDI.
I can't see any other new settings in the UNIT or KIT menus. No new FX, Hihat feels the same, etc. No noticeable difference in triggering except my crashes did need adjusting. Everything triggers very well I must add.
SCHAN on/off could be "Single channel" MIDI so you use one channel only for all drums/cymbals. Can you describe what you see in the MIDI page?
Quote from: tsss27 on July 03, 2021, 04:44:48 PM
Interesting. 2Box has told me directly (as well as a few others) that MIDI cross stick would definitely be in the next official firmware. We will see. I don't know why this site has it posted before 2Box themselves or if it is even finished (I would assume not since they haven't posted it...)
The manual is available to download but only in german, it seems to be the first version though since it says on MIDI "Update zu Punkt 8.9 MIDI:
Der Midi Player mit seinen Funktionen wird erst zu einem späteren Zeitpunkt mit einem Update des OS in vollem Umfang zur Verfügung stehen. Momentan sind nicht alle MIDI Funktionen fehlerfrei nutzbar. Das aktuelle Betriebssystem steht Ihnen jederzeit zum Download auf musicstore.de zur Verfügung"....
which roughly translates to: "MIDI section is still under development and not all MIDI settings are working, we will release an OS update soon" the module shipped initially with 1.38 so I think the update is 1.40 I posted so all MIDI settings should be working now.. the manual hasn't been updated.
Sadly MIDI Xstick separate note is still not there...
SCHAN is on the same page where you select the MIDI channel for the module (1-16)
I tested more with Raw MIDI monitor but it really didn't seem to do anything, on or off. It's not a omni channel mode but I haven't tested the MIDI input though.
Given it's been a few working days and the 1.40 OS isn't official, I don't think it's the final code anyway. It could take months more waiting if that's true.
Hi.
Any new OS updates or hardware coming up from 2box?? Been a while now....
Quote from: HansT on July 19, 2021, 09:19:04 PM
Any new OS updates or hardware coming up from 2box?? Been a while now....
I don't know, but I'm not expecting a lot at the moment based on their current online activity. They don't seem to give very helpful responses to support requests, if they respond at all, and their Facebook page mostly consists of re-posts of users' drum videos. I don't know when the last official OS update was released, but it has indeed been a while because I got my unit about a year ago and the current version was already out then. Of course the Fame OS version would suggest that their development isn't entirely dead, but it's quite hard for an outsider to tell what's going on with them. I guess the pandemic might have caused problems for their business as well.
I think 2Box has been bought by musicstore (dv247) and as such they're dead, the main 2box distributor is hyperactive based in Germany so they could have made the deal easily and in german with musicstore, so until we finally get an official statement from 2box on the state of things we could just all but speculate...
Every time I send 2box an email asking if they're still in business they replay every single time : "we're alive and well, we're working on new exciting things" but those "exciting new things" never see the light of day explicitly...
I was considering getting the "2Box Drumit 5 MK2 Limited Edition Set" which was supposed to be limited to 100 Sets, well it hasn't been sold out yet since its appearance 1 or 2 years ago I don't remember exactly... but at this point it would just be a decoration item on a museum, in a cabinet of edrum curiosities...
So 2box, if you read this, give us some light on your status please, we're your only customers, nobody talks about you like us in this forum, if you're dead well say it so and move on... enough is enough...
I think You are wrong in your estimations and what 2box is up to. (But I have of course not any insider information) However, There have been discussions lately about a new OS beta...and the Fame thing was only another OEM vendor for 2box.
Best regards
Anders / www.Zourman.com
The Fame Editor is now available to download in beta version:
https://www.musicstore.de/de_DE/EUR/Fame-Hybrid-Pro-Sound-Modul/art-DRU0039596-000
And nothing from 2box, only crickets....
The 1.40 version hosted now seems to be a few months newer than what was originally available. It works fine, I haven't noticed any changes. Would be good to see a change log from 1.36.30 at least!
It seems that since there are various rebranded DrumIt3 modules being sold now, 2Box may just be banking on those companies to develop the firmware. You'd think that they would still post the newest releases on their own website though...
Typical 2 Box , with the ever present lack of communication with it's customers and dealers , but I love the modules! Just bought another 5 to add some toms and cymbals
I found a hidden menu in 1.40 OS (that doesn't exist on 1.36.30)
Accessed by going to KIT - ENV page, select UNIT, hold MORE + KIT
ENV2 page is displayed with a single parameter to adjust per trigger called TRIGP (options are RIM and CROSS) it's unclear what the effect this has from my testing so far. :-\
Quote from: Karbonfaiba on December 14, 2021, 12:37:01 AM
I found a hidden menu in 1.40 OS (that doesn't exist on 1.36.30)
Accessed by going to KIT - ENV page, select UNIT, hold MORE + KIT
ENV2 page is displayed with a single parameter to adjust per trigger called TRIGP (options are RIM and CROSS) it's unclear what the effect this has from my testing so far. :-\
Something to do with rimshots and cross-sticks maybe?
Something to do with 3-zone snare pads I would assume?
Quote from: Karbonfaiba on December 14, 2021, 12:37:01 AM
I found a hidden menu in 1.40 OS (that doesn't exist on 1.36.30)
Accessed by going to KIT - ENV page, select UNIT, hold MORE + KIT
ENV2 page is displayed with a single parameter to adjust per trigger called TRIGP (options are RIM and CROSS) it's unclear what the effect this has from my testing so far. :-\
Since it's on the kit page and not on the unit page I guess this is not related to assigning a trigger type or input but to assign a sound to a pad.
Hi,
I run the 1.40 on my 2box three. Everything works as before with the 90 standard kits. But I noticed the volume of the cym 1 was less than before for all kits.
I also downloaded the Dirk Sengotta Sound-Pack. I put it as a folder on the SD Card. With 1.37 Firmware some of the sounds were distorted. With 1.40 all sounds work. With the long loop there were some problems when playing with the module not reacting to input, but "off and on" cold-start worked. Not ready for stage though.
I really hope that there will be an official update from 2box.
Greetiungs Björn
1 year later and still no update for 2box, why? What's the excuse now?
They move like snails! We all know they don't have anywhere near the money that Roland does, but I always thought that at some point they would iron out some of these things and really dreaming. I thought maybe they would improve their current 2Box Drumit 5 MK2 or introduce even a new flagship! Dreams are nice and then we wake up, lol! Now I am waiting to see if Ddrum gets back in big because they had a big headstart, way before 2 Box, and that would be cool and probably more likely! All that said, I still think for the money that 2 box is still the best contender right now,although Efnote and Yammie are looking good too!
Almost 3 years after now and still no new official firmware from 2box, come on 2box, I know you read this forum, just let us know if you have dropped the ball....
The editor also seems to encrypt/compress the DSND files - meaning that they also are reduced in size to about 50%. (But you must use v1.40 as the OS to be able to read the files)
Best regards
Anders / Zourman.com
Hi All!
I recently tested the The Fame Pro Editor (https://images.musicstore.de/assets/fame-hybrid-pro/Fame_Hybrid_Pro_Software_Editor_Windows.zip) for Windows with one of my Paiste PST7 China 18 samples. (Bow + edge 77 + 82 layers.)
My original dsnd file was about 144 MB large. When compiling the original waves files in the Fame editor - it became 71 MB big DSND file. (Note: To be able to replay this file on 2box - the 1.40 OS needs to be loaded.)
I can not say that I am missing any sound information - looks like a great compression algorithm.
Note: Quite fun to see that Fame Pro/MusicStore don't think the editor is too good themselves...:-)
(https://zourman.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/FamePro_editor.png)
Best Regards
Anders / Zourman.com
Quote from: ANGR77 on March 25, 2023, 10:20:41 AMHi All!
Note: Quite fun to see that Fame Pro/MusicStore don't think the editor is too good themselves...:-)
HaHa! That is hilarious! ;D
Good find ANGR77!
I wonder if SDSE could integrate the new 1.40 OS compression as an option?
If the new compression is indeed lossless (not a sample rate reduction as 2box editor tuning limit) it's sounds like a win for memory saving, especially for hi-hats.
Can you also revert the compressed dsnd back into WAVs with the FAME editor?
It looks like it is a quite advanced compression algorithm used - looking on the files with a sinus wave sample gives no indications what is going on. :-)
I have to try and see if the samples could be stored back in to waves again.
Best regards
Anders / www.Zourman.com
Very interesting find. The lossless compression feature was discussed years ago. I suspect it is similar to what Nord uses for their keyboards, as 2Box originated from there...
on thomann there's the drumit 3 and they show on the photos the first kit called "De_Fruende_1", anyone has any idea of where this kit comes from?
The metronome is routed to 3+4 by default so don't panic if you can't hear it in your headphones, go to the Unit>Out page, press more and M Out together and change it to Mix.
I can confirm cymbal 1 is quieter in 1.40, also the ride or cymbal 2 drops notes, back to 1.36.3 for now
I just rendered a kit from Superior Drummer 3 expansion Fields of Rock, it's the Stormtrooper kit of the Live part, used SDSE to render the wavs and the Fame Editor to create the dsnd files, the original size with SDSE is around 860MB, with the Fame editor it's only 362MB so I wanted to see if the latency and stuttering is due to file size (which I already discarted a couple of years ago but anyway) the result? Playing the kit just becomes impossible, the module just robocops and stop functioning after playing 30 seconds a pattern. So I restarted and set the kick voice to mono and it was playable again, this was using a 64 Sandisk Extreme SD card, so I then tried the stock 4GB micro Sd card that came with my drumit 3 to see if it is the SD Card (which again I tested too a couple of years ago and found it was not the case but anyway) so I copied just the kit and the 1.40 OS, nothing else, result? same thing, setting kick to mono was again the only solution, so it's not the SD card either, it's really something to do with the kick part which is the base for all the notes.
I turned off the XTALK settings for all the pads. Pads were set correctly to roland pads and cymbals PP and CYPS.
Here you can listen to my findings:
https://1drv.ms/u/s!Apbbfhss1Va_hoNqeUcxNz0mTr0BFg
the first part is with kick voice set to poly, the second part to mono, same pads, same 1.40 OS, same kit, same SD card.
I had played more kits from The Fields of Rock using SDSE, so far none glitches like the one above, so it's also the samples and how they were recorded/edited I suppose.
The Fame Editor still has some bugs, for instance, the hihat closed edge and bow are not created correctly so I get open sounds on both, also the ride bell is not created correctly either so I can't play the bell.