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Title: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: dane on October 06, 2010, 12:37:51 AM
(http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/9296/8452016.jpg)

(http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/5848/8452010.jpg)
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: franz-tanz on October 06, 2010, 05:45:34 AM
How did you do that?
Is there a slot for a memory Card? Seems so! WOW
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: nonoduweb on October 06, 2010, 06:15:37 AM
And we can keep the warranty? Great!  :rock:
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: fishmonkey on October 06, 2010, 06:44:26 AM
hmmm, if that's the case it should be possible to remove the card and use it in a card reader to speed up transfers...
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Insider on October 06, 2010, 03:26:12 PM
Hi

Be very careful. I am informed you will run into problems, also your warranty will be void. Sorry I don't wish to spoil your excitement. Let me see what the details are and I will get back to you. Have you experienced any problems using this card?
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: dane on October 06, 2010, 03:44:16 PM
 works very well No problems
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: roel on October 06, 2010, 03:52:18 PM
Quote from: dane on October 06, 2010, 03:44:16 PM
works very well No problems


but was there a 4 gig card in it? did you do remove that card? or is there an extra memory slot?
looks great! , only the question why did they only use 4gig?
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Baby Samus on October 06, 2010, 04:48:39 PM
Quote from: dane on October 06, 2010, 03:44:16 PM
works very well No problems


Are you saying that the module actually has an SD card slot inside the unit with a 4GB card in it, and you simply replace the card, or are you saying this is a chipboard mod, i.e. you have installed a card reader yourself onto the module?
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: jopes on October 06, 2010, 06:12:27 PM
Oh my god.. :o That's so cool.

one stupid question.. is there a sim-card slot in there as well? That way you could like call people and play for them live!  :animal:
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: dane on October 06, 2010, 06:41:59 PM
Quote from: Baby Samus on October 06, 2010, 04:48:39 PM
Are you saying that the module actually has an SD card slot inside the unit with a 4GB card in it, and you simply replace the card, or are you saying this is a chipboard mod, i.e. you have installed a card reader yourself onto the module?

I simply replaced the card
format a sdhc card FAT32, 32 kbyte cluster in the card reader
put all sound files
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Baby Samus on October 06, 2010, 06:57:25 PM
Quote from: dane on October 06, 2010, 06:41:59 PM
I simply replaced the card
format a sdhc card FAT32, 32 kbyte cluster in the card reader
put all sound files


So you are saying that if I open my module up, I will find there is already a card slot with a 4GB card in the module?
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: roel on October 06, 2010, 09:01:02 PM
Quote from: dane on October 06, 2010, 06:41:59 PM
I simply replaced the card
format a sdhc card FAT32, 32 kbyte cluster in the card reader
put all sound files


can you explain this...
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: dane on October 06, 2010, 10:24:25 PM
Quote from: Baby Samus on October 06, 2010, 06:57:25 PM
So you are saying that if I open my module up, I will find there is already a card slot with a 4GB card in the module?


yes.....
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Baby Samus on October 06, 2010, 10:52:19 PM
Quote from: dane on October 06, 2010, 10:24:25 PM

yes.....

OMG!!  All you need to do is open the case, remove the old card and back it up, format the new one as per Dane's instructions and copy the old card data on and slot the card back in the module!  Thats so easy, well it sounds easy.  Did it need an O/S rewrite, and do you know if it can accept a 32gb or 64 gb card?

Well this is such good news.  Dane can you possibly write a little guide as to how you did it so we won't go wrong if we try - any tips you have would be much appreciated  ;D
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: fishmonkey on October 07, 2010, 12:07:45 AM
actually, given the slow USB1.1 connection, i wish the brain had a card slot on the outside...

sorry to sound like a nanna, but if you are not tech-minded, i wouldn't do this until your warranty runs out...
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: dane on October 07, 2010, 02:12:53 AM
Quote from: Baby Samus on October 06, 2010, 10:52:19 PM
OMG!!  All you need to do is open the case, remove the old card and back it up, format the new one as per Dane's instructions and copy the old card data on and slot the card back in the module!  Thats so easy, well it sounds easy.  Did it need an O/S rewrite, and do you know if it can accept a 32gb or 64 gb card?

Well this is such good news.  Dane can you possibly write a little guide as to how you did it so we won't go wrong if we try - any tips you have would be much appreciated  ;D

(http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/763/rds2web.jpg)

copy files, format directly in 2box ,not working
only works  in the card reader
32gb and 64gb not tried ;)
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: fishmonkey on October 07, 2010, 02:18:24 AM
Quote from: dane on October 07, 2010, 02:12:53 AM
copy files, format directly in 2box ,not working
only works  in the card reader

i'm not surprised that you can't format the card in the brain.

but are you saying that you cannot transfer files with the card in the brain, but that the brain can read the files okay once they are on there?
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: dane on October 07, 2010, 02:23:42 AM
Quote from: fishmonkey on October 07, 2010, 02:18:24 AM
i'm not surprised that you can't format the card in the brain.

but are you saying that you cannot transfer files with the card in the brain, but that the brain can read the files okay once they are on there?


yes can read
:rock:  
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: madmanmafimardi on October 07, 2010, 02:56:04 AM
Could Bengt run some tests for us?
this is very cool news
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: fishmonkey on October 07, 2010, 04:15:53 AM
i really don't think 2Box will be encouraging people to open up their modules to swap memory cards. Insider has already said that it will void your warranty, which is not surprising.

and i'm sure 2Box already knows all about what works and what doesn't as far as memory cards go...
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: puttenvr on October 07, 2010, 05:09:51 AM
We gave away this years X-mas present
Normally 2Box offers us new sounds
This year, they wanted to reveal the card news ...
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: franz-tanz on October 07, 2010, 10:40:46 AM
Maybe the next module update the will bring out has a slot for flash cards, that will be a huge advantage.
Too bad for the ones who got their brain earlier.  :-[
I'am planning on buying one the next weeks!!!  :-\
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Evy on October 07, 2010, 02:04:08 PM
Ok...please don't laugh at me because I'm quite slow witted when it comes to computer stuff.  Everybody seems excited about the idea of swapping memory cards but is there a benefit other than being able to load even more sounds?  Seems to me the 4g in there already is more than enough.  Again if there is another reason please explain!  Would a bigger card make it work better?  It already works great for me.

Signed, The Ludite..
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: fishmonkey on October 07, 2010, 02:14:51 PM
it's only something to be excited about if you want to load more samples or audio tracks...
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Evy on October 07, 2010, 03:03:06 PM
ok so no biggie for me(for now), thanks fish. 
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: nonoduweb on October 07, 2010, 04:37:07 PM
The strange thing is that if we just need to replace the old card by another one without welding anything, why 2box didn't plan to make a hole in the brain?
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Manfred on October 07, 2010, 05:54:38 PM
Quote from: nonoduweb on October 07, 2010, 04:37:07 PM
The strange thing is that if we just need to replace the old card by another one without welding anything, why 2box didn't plan to make a hole in the brain?

Maybe it is planned for new releases or models?! New designs often have features that are not released at the first step. As you could see 2Box even worked on basic features (hihat, cymbal triggering) at the beginnig. So I guess there was simply not enough time to develop and test features that are "nice to have" but not essential. It is very common to release with reduced features at the first step and/or use the same hardware for different models.

Manfred
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: fishmonkey on October 08, 2010, 04:55:58 AM
while we are on the topic, when buying SDHC cards, don't forget to check the speed of the card, which is indicated by the 'Class' number.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital#Speed_Class_Rating
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: puttenvr on October 08, 2010, 06:06:46 AM
Yeah, thx
but which class do we need?
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: fishmonkey on October 08, 2010, 08:37:48 AM
for cards 8 GB or above, i don't think you can get anything slower than a Class 4.

here's one way to look at it:

16 GB SDHC card, Class 4:

15 Mb/s = 1.875 MB/s, so it would take about 140 minutes to fill the card.

16 GB SDHC card, Class 6:

20 Mb/s = 2.5 MB/s, now it would take around 105 minutes.

it would be interesting to know what the speed of the standard card that comes with the 2Box is...
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: hwasser on October 08, 2010, 12:34:11 PM
Be carefull though with insiders warning. Maybe there will come a upgrade in the system to 8 gb in future that you can kind of easily fix you self or something like that.
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: dane on October 08, 2010, 12:35:13 PM
Quote from: fishmonkey on October 08, 2010, 08:37:48 AM
for cards 8 GB or above, i don't think you can get anything slower than a Class 4.

here's one way to look at it:

16 GB SDHC card, Class 4:

15 Mb/s = 1.875 MB/s, so it would take about 140 minutes to fill the card.

16 GB SDHC card, Class 6:

20 Mb/s = 2.5 MB/s, now it would take around 105 minutes.

it would be interesting to know what the speed of the standard card that comes with the 2Box is...


card that comes with the 2Box is class 6
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: puttenvr on October 08, 2010, 02:31:41 PM
See http://www.drummerforum.de/forum/40438-2box-drumit-five-bestellt-fotos-test-und-erfahrungen-hier-sobald-es-eintrifft/thread58.html

If I understand the German language correct
- you can put a larger card into the 2box brain
- you can load that card with sounds by using a card reader
- you can't assign the new card by using the USB. Both Windows and Mac stop at a 4gb limit even if the card is 16 gb

Does it mean that you need to open the module, and remove the card everytime you want to (x)change new sounds?
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: fishmonkey on October 08, 2010, 02:36:42 PM
yep, you would have to remove the card to change files...

depending on how the 2Box brain works, that might be something that can be changed with firmware, but it might also be a hardware limitation.

another option would be to make or buy an SD card extension cable, so you can mount the card on the outside of the brain.

http://www.ec21.com/product-details/SD-Card-Extension-Cable--3862035.html
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: puttenvr on October 08, 2010, 03:52:54 PM
And that the female singer holds that card holder for you
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: fishmonkey on October 08, 2010, 03:58:33 PM
sure, whatever floats your boat...
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: XYZSpeedy on October 09, 2010, 10:56:45 PM
Quote from: puttenvr on October 08, 2010, 02:31:41 PM
See http://www.drummerforum.de/forum/40438-2box-drumit-five-bestellt-fotos-test-und-erfahrungen-hier-sobald-es-eintrifft/thread58.html

If I understand the German language correct
- you can put a larger card into the 2box brain
- you can load that card with sounds by using a card reader
- you can't assign the new card by using the USB. Both Windows and Mac stop at a 4gb limit even if the card is 16 gb

Does it mean that you need to open the module, and remove the card everytime you want to (x)change new sounds?

Hello puttenvr,

your german is better than my english  ;)
yes, your translation is correct  :) - but Windows can't access the 16GB-Card and will start format the Card as 4GB.
MacOS (says User AA in the German forum) can access the 16GB-Card, but write access over 4GB destroy
Files and/or the File system. Ok, this means: with SDHC-Cards over 4GB DON'T USE USB!!!

My first Test was ok too ... but later, after some copy jobs, the 2Box displayed Flash Error and FAT error.
i formatted the Card again and copied only the Firmware and Settings, but Errors displayed again  :'(
I Use a 16GB-Card Class 10.

i stopped my Tests now, but i will get an SD Extension Cable to cange the Card from outside the Brain.

Greetings
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: puttenvr on October 10, 2010, 06:16:58 AM
Danke schön für deine Erklärung, also ein

BIG WARNING
is on it place here
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: dane on October 10, 2010, 11:15:20 AM
Quote from: XYZSpeedy on October 09, 2010, 10:56:45 PM
Hello puttenvr,

your german is better than my english  ;)
yes, your translation is correct  :) - but Windows can't access the 16GB-Card and will start format the Card as 4GB.
MacOS (says User AA in the German forum) can access the 16GB-Card, but write access over 4GB destroy
Files and/or the File system. Ok, this means: with SDHC-Cards over 4GB DON'T USE USB!!!

My first Test was ok too ... but later, after some copy jobs, the 2Box displayed Flash Error and FAT error.
i formatted the Card again and copied only the Firmware and Settings, but Errors displayed again  :'(
I Use a 16GB-Card Class 10.

i stopped my Tests now, but i will get an SD Extension Cable to cange the Card from outside the Brain.

Greetings

only works class 2,4,6
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: fishmonkey on October 10, 2010, 11:33:43 AM
Quote from: dane on October 10, 2010, 11:15:20 AM
only works class 2,4,6

ahhh, that's good to know...
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: XYZSpeedy on October 10, 2010, 01:44:07 PM
Quote from: dane on October 10, 2010, 11:15:20 AM
only works class 2,4,6

i think too, but a user in another forum says, he use an Class 10 Card.
I'm sure, simply we must use the "right" Card (Manufacturer, Class, etc.).

First incompatibly List (aka "DON'T USE IT for 2Box Brains!") ;-)
- Patriot Secure Digital SDHC Card (LXseries, Class 10)
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Deve Loper on October 10, 2010, 03:04:12 PM
Hi guys.
It's human isn't, to try things beyond what it is intended for...
So here it is. The boot program which handles the USB transfer is currently limited to 4 GB cards. Besides that, there are very (!) specific conditions the SD card has to conform to regarding speed and access times. So experiments with other cards are entirely at your own risk (and void waranty).
Also I keep reading these posts and all good ideas are noted for future use.
Regards,
Deve.
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: fishmonkey on October 10, 2010, 03:13:26 PM
Quote from: Deve Loper on October 10, 2010, 03:04:12 PM
Hi guys.
It's human isn't, to try things beyond what it is intended for...
So here it is. The boot program which handles the USB transfer is currently limited to 4 GB cards. Besides that, there are very (!) specific conditions the SD card has to conform to regarding speed and access times. So experiments with other cards are entirely at your own risk (and void waranty).
Also I keep reading these posts and all good ideas are noted for future use.
Regards,
Deve.

hey Mr Loper,

it's always good to hear your comments!

can the boot program be updated at a later date, or is it in some kind of read-only memory?

also, that's a tantalising statement about transfer and access times. should we be testing a range of Class 6 cards only?

hint, hint?
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: AA_ on October 20, 2010, 10:47:42 AM
the brain with an accessible SD slot :D

(http://php-worker.com/images/2box/HPIM2263.JPG)

(http://php-worker.com/images/2box/HPIM2264.JPG)

(testing phase):
(http://php-worker.com/images/2box/HPIM2266.JPG)

tools... *g*
(http://php-worker.com/images/2box/HPIM2302.JPG)

uhmmm...
(http://php-worker.com/images/2box/HPIM2267.JPG)

(http://php-worker.com/images/2box/HPIM2268.jpg)

(http://php-worker.com/images/2box/HPIM2280.jpg)

(http://php-worker.com/images/2box/HPIM2291.jpg)

(http://php-worker.com/images/2box/HPIM2292.jpg)

(http://php-worker.com/images/2box/HPIM2298.jpg)

current SD Card: "Transcend SDHC, 16GB, class 10"
SD card slot: SD CARD CABLE EXTENDER EXTENSION SDHC 32GB 50 CM / 20"

@dane thanks for the inspiration! :)
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: mandubien on October 20, 2010, 11:48:23 AM
Can't see the images. Can you repost them ?
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: AA_ on October 20, 2010, 11:58:35 AM
Quote from: mandubien on October 20, 2010, 11:48:23 AM
Can't see the images. Can you repost them ?

done
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: mandubien on October 20, 2010, 12:16:13 PM
Holy poop !!! Great job !!! Now gotta wait the end of my warranty.....
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: nonoduweb on October 20, 2010, 12:22:26 PM
Excellent!  ;D

 
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: rainbow on October 20, 2010, 02:01:51 PM
Good job  :rock:

also wait the end of the warranty
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Baby Samus on October 20, 2010, 02:14:43 PM
I really want to do this now, thats a great job you've done there AA!  Could you elaborate on a couple things?  First what kind of glue did you use the fix the SD card adapter in place?  Also how did you format the SD card (what partition size, what file system, was it done in windows etc)?

Cheers man this has given me a lot of inspiration  :drum2:
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: AA_ on October 20, 2010, 02:55:53 PM
Quote from: Baby Samus on October 20, 2010, 02:14:43 PM
I really want to do this now, thats a great job you've done there AA!  Could you elaborate on a couple things?  First what kind of glue did you use the fix the SD card adapter in place?  Also how did you format the SD card (what partition size, what file system, was it done in windows etc)?

Cheers man this has given me a lot of inspiration  :drum2:

the adhesive is a glue stick. heated with a soldering iron (I have no glue gun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot-melt_adhesive)).

The card is formatted with FAT32, 32 KiB cluster - size 16GB (windows 7).
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: puttenvr on October 20, 2010, 04:16:18 PM
Can the 2Box people hire you to modify all our modules?
Great job !
I wouldn't dare it, to be honest
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: AA_ on October 20, 2010, 04:22:01 PM
Quote from: puttenvr on October 20, 2010, 04:16:18 PM
Can the 2Box people hire you to modify all our modules?

yes, if the 4GB usb limit is fixed ;)
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: AA_ on October 20, 2010, 04:53:34 PM
sd card / brain icon:
windows (drumit.ico) (http://php-worker.com/images/2box/icons/drumit.ico)
mac osx (drumit.icns) (http://php-worker.com/images/2box/icons/drumit.icns)
windows (2box.ico) (http://php-worker.com/images/2box/icons/2box.ico)
mac osx (2box.icns) (http://php-worker.com/images/2box/icons/2box.icns)

(http://php-worker.com/images/2box/icons/sdcard_icons.png)
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Slap the drummer on October 25, 2010, 11:56:55 PM
This is really useful for me as well.... thanks Dane, thanks AA!

Not sure I dare start waving a soldering iron about tho - so it's time for what maybe a stupid question.

Is it possible to just plug the extension thing in, then run the flat looking cable out thru where the top of the brain meets the base, and then maybe
just let it dangle  :drum3:

And wear gloves so no fingerprints and no void warranty  :)
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: edtc on January 08, 2011, 11:56:27 AM
Quote from: jopes on October 06, 2010, 06:12:27 PM
Oh my god.. :o That's so cool.

one stupid question.. is there a sim-card slot in there as well? That way you could like call people and play for them live!  :animal:

yes , maybe with this model ...(http://pmcdn.priceminister.com/photo%3Cbr%20/%3E/821769805_L.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3031/3896554971_3783dfc278.jpg)
Integrated headset and  monitoring speaker ...
to change program , just dial the kit number...


Looks like the designer  of the drumit5 spent his holyday in france in the eighties...:)

have a nice weekend folks!

PS: sorry for this "less than usefull" post.... my DDRUM snare trigger is broken so i cant play :(
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: XYZSpeedy on January 08, 2011, 03:51:11 PM
That's GREAT!!!!  :rock:

Now we can speak our Kits and Samples to the DrumIt5  ;)
Who needs USB 2.0???
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: MarkuZ on January 12, 2011, 11:16:20 PM
Dear Developer,

when will the USB Limit for SD cards be broken?
I know that is not supported by 2Box in the moment, but it would be sooo cool.
You promised a little christmasgift for the comunity as I remember ;).

With the original 4GB there is not enough space for some playalongs(wav is much bigger than mp3) and extra samples.

If you can implement this feature, the 2Box Kit became more interesting to new customers too..;-).


Happy new year to everybody!
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: rcprod on January 13, 2011, 01:04:45 PM
Yes it would be nice to keep the USB functionality while allowing us to put in a larger SD card.

At first I thought I would just go in and remove a bunch of the sounds that I would not use making room for new sounds, but I liked most of the sounds that came with the kit.

2Box has done an awesome job coming up with this kit. Hopefully this change could be implemented at some point.

Cheers.
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: edtc on January 13, 2011, 04:44:00 PM
...not sure , but i  ve read somewhere that it s a hardware limitation of the usb controller... 

i also hope it s not true..:)
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: MarkuZ on January 13, 2011, 08:49:48 PM
32GB is running fine too  ;D

It is a Transcend 32Gb Class 10
My original Card was a Kingston class 6.

Have a look here:
http://www.drummerforum.de/forum/40438-2box-drumit-five-bestellt-fotos-test-und-erfahrungen-hier-sobald-es-eintrifft/thread65.html#post883808
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: puttenvr on January 13, 2011, 08:53:08 PM
Great
But still no access with USB, right?
Hope 2Box will fix that so we can all use larger cards
and load all those wonderful sounds
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: roel on January 13, 2011, 09:41:42 PM
Quote from: MarkuZ on January 13, 2011, 08:49:48 PM
32GB is running fine too  ;D

It is a Transcend 32Gb Class 10
My original Card was a Kingston class 6.

Have a look here:
http://www.drummerforum.de/forum/40438-2box-drumit-five-bestellt-fotos-test-und-erfahrungen-hier-sobald-es-eintrifft/thread65.html#post883808


Ooh yeaah cool man! but what's the biggest card you can get at the moment for the 2box module?
4 TB would be magnificent.
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: puttenvr on January 14, 2011, 08:22:57 AM
Quote from: roel on January 13, 2011, 09:41:42 PM4 TB would be magnificent.

To give your rack a place?
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: roel on January 14, 2011, 08:47:26 PM
Quote from: puttenvr on January 14, 2011, 08:22:57 AM
To give your rack a place?

yes man, puttenvr do you have your light in your kick? :animal:
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: puttenvr on January 15, 2011, 08:02:44 AM
I AM the light ...
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: fishmonkey on January 15, 2011, 10:28:33 AM
if you are not also the truth, how can we believe you?
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: roel on January 15, 2011, 12:00:18 PM
Quote from: puttenvr on January 15, 2011, 08:02:44 AM
I AM the light ...

you mean jesus christ super star!
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: XYZSpeedy on January 19, 2011, 05:28:52 PM
Quote from: MarkuZ on January 13, 2011, 08:49:48 PM
32GB is running fine too  ;D

It is a Transcend 32Gb Class 10

Hello! My Transcend 32GB Class 6 (manufactured 2010) is running too!
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: rcprod on January 19, 2011, 11:28:57 PM
When you guys (and/or gals) are using this larger card I guess that you must take out the card to load in new sounds since the USB connection no longer works. (Use a card reader and connect it to your computer) Is that correct?

Thanks.
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: puttenvr on January 20, 2011, 06:13:47 AM
Yes, that's how it works (according to a German forum)
One guy uses a card reader extension (with a longer flat cable)
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/274992582/SD_CARD_READER_EXTEND_CABLE.html
and then glued it into the side wall of the module
Personally, I would wait untill 2Box solves the USB access.
It's Easter soon.
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: edtc on January 20, 2011, 12:20:43 PM
Quote from: puttenvr on January 20, 2011, 06:13:47 AM

...It's Easter soon.

Easter ?...Are we gonna have a new Os , or just some " Egg shaker" dsnd collection ..? :)
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Baby Samus on January 20, 2011, 02:52:49 PM
Quote from: edtc on January 20, 2011, 12:20:43 PM
Easter ?...Are we gonna have a new Os , or just some " Egg shaker" dsnd collection ..? :)

Whats not to like about free sounds  :)

Fingers crossed we get that feature in the next O/S update though - I think everyone here would love to have the option of replacing the 4gb card and not lose out on USB access.  Lets hope its possible.
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: edtc on January 20, 2011, 04:05:04 PM
.... some people should have more humour , -4 karma for a joke about eggs at Easter..!
... I was just kidding , even some "bell " sounds could be great  ....
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Manfred on January 20, 2011, 10:26:03 PM
Quote from: Baby Samus on January 20, 2011, 02:52:49 PM
Fingers crossed we get that feature in the next O/S update though - I think everyone here would love to have the option of replacing the 4gb card and not lose out on USB access.  Lets hope its possible.

At the german drummerforum AA_ wrote that Rik confirmed this feature first and afterwards Bengt said that this feature will not come. But he also said there will be another solution for better utilization of the memory.

So once more the only thing we can do is waiting......

Manfred
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Baby Samus on January 20, 2011, 11:20:35 PM
Quote from: Manfred on January 20, 2011, 10:26:03 PM
At the german drummerforum AA_ wrote that Rik confirmed this feature first and afterwards Bengt said that this feature will not come. But he also said there will be another solution for better utilization of the memory.

So once more the only thing we can do is waiting......

Manfred

Ah well its not an original feature and was never promised, so I don't mind waiting for them to add it - perhaps the hardware does not allow it?  Would be nice to get a definitive answer from 2Box though - perhaps they are saving all this for the next version of the module  ;)

I guess everyone here saw the modded module with the card slot - tbh I don't mind losing USB if I could easily pop 16/32gb cards in.  The thing thats stopping me is I don't have any DIY/drilling skills AT ALL!  I guess a lot of you guys thought it looked easy but man I suck at DIY!
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: puttenvr on January 21, 2011, 07:39:32 AM
Even pronouncing DIY is too difficult for me   ;)
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Slap the drummer on January 21, 2011, 12:13:15 PM
I heard a rumour as well that they were going to introduce new files with some kind of lossless
compression, making 4GB into 8GB.  (I think Native Instruments already do something similar).

Perhaps its worth pointing out if it hasn't been already - the USB bit will apply only to loading
sounds onto a bigger card.  Once the card is in place you should be able to edit kits etc etc
without removing it again.  So if you had enough sounds to keep you happy for a while, then
in theory you cd swap the cards over and not worry too much about diy....????
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: edtc on January 21, 2011, 01:24:19 PM
Quote from: puttenvr on January 21, 2011, 07:39:32 AM
Even pronouncing DIY is too difficult for me   ;)

just say : DEE HIGH WHY ;)   or "DO HIT YOUYSELF" ;)
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: MarkuZ on January 21, 2011, 06:27:00 PM
It's done!

I've soldered out the SD-Socket and changed it with a model with a spring-mechanism (like in Digicams).
You can order it here for only 1,50€
http://www.pollin.de/shop/dt/MjU4ODQ1OTk-/Computer_und_Zubehoer/Hardware/Speicherkarten/SD_Speicherkarten_Sockel_ATTEND_104H_TDA0_R.html

I've you know how to handle a soldering Iron, it is no big deal.

Soundcompression is not bad, but what is with the big "wav-Playalongs and Loops"?

For pics an more look here:http://www.drummerforum.de/forum/40438-2box-drumit-five-bestellt-fotos-test-und-erfahrungen-hier-sobald-es-eintrifft/thread65.html#post886627

Best regards & good luck!

MarkuZ :rock:
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: puttenvr on January 22, 2011, 07:06:46 AM
Sieht recht gut aus aber

Did you make a slit in the side of the plastic module in order to see and use the card ?
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: edtc on January 24, 2011, 04:06:40 PM
Quote from: puttenvr on January 22, 2011, 07:06:46 AM


Did you make a slit in the side of the plastic module in order to see and use the card ?

Rob , when i opened it to swap SDcars i descovered that the module lid is made of Aluminium . Looks like plastic , but isnt ... only the flat black panel with knobs and buttons is plastic ...
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: puttenvr on January 24, 2011, 05:49:09 PM
Did I say plastic?
Sorry, I don't even know the difference between wood and water
But good to know it's aluminium !
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: BlingBling on January 26, 2011, 04:45:58 PM
I think more important than more Space is a faster Volume inside the brain. And does it matters
which brand the card has? must it be the same as 2box uses?

Thax
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: MarkuZ on January 27, 2011, 06:35:55 PM
SD-Card Slot Solution  *update*

I've made the Slot for the SD Card now am I am quite happy with it.

@puttenvr
Its Aluminium and not Plastic! I think the Brain is much more durable, than the other Hardware :D

If somebody is interested, please have a look here:
http://www.drummerforum.de/forum/40438-2box-drumit-five-bestellt-fotos-test-und-erfahrungen-hier-sobald-es-eintrifft/thread66.html#post889017
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: edtc on January 27, 2011, 06:57:49 PM
markuz , can you please post the pictures here ? i dont fell like registering to a german forum ...:)

danke schoen
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: nonoduweb on January 28, 2011, 07:30:48 AM
Here is a picture from the german forum wich shows the good job of MarkuZ... ;D

(http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/5841/2boxsdslot8.jpg) (http://img819.imageshack.us/i/2boxsdslot8.jpg/)

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Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: puttenvr on January 28, 2011, 07:34:13 AM
Wow that looks nice !
Markuz, want to earn some money?
Make such a card-slot for all of us
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: edtc on January 28, 2011, 04:25:14 PM
@nonoduweb ... merci

@MarkuZ .........bravo , great job!!

Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: MarkuZ on February 02, 2011, 09:13:02 PM
Thanx a lot for youre compliments.
Sorry, that the pics are only availiable in the german Drummerforum, but I found no way to post them here. ???

cheers MarkuZ
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Jman on February 16, 2011, 05:28:37 AM
Hi, first post here.... been registered and reading for a long time, just never posted.. 1st off I bought a used Drumit 5 kit in the UK and a buddy picked it up and is shipping me the module and a few of the pads (I plan to use my own kit with it, but want to have a good reference, so I can get my triggering response on par with the stock pads). I guess I'll be one of the few in the US that have a Drumit Five?? So I've been getting up to speed, reading a lot of the posts and info from the 2Box site.

Since I bought used, and am in the US, I suppose warranty isn't an issue with me ... I haven't even got my hands on the module yet, but I already have an SDHC extender cable/adapter on order, and plan to modify this after I back up the existing module, do any OS updates needed, etc... and basically make sure I have a system already up to date ... operating well and backed up... Then I will do the mod with the card slot in the side of the module.

Anyway, since the USB function is hosed with the larger 32GB card installed, I assume the Kit Editor Software will not be able to be accessed, right? Does the module have to be included? In other words, you can't just use a USB Card reader and do editing via the software without the module, right?

OK, not answering my own questions here, but thinking ahead..... assuming I will have no access to USB editing with the 32GB card .... I figure I will keep the original 4GB card plus another 4GB card on hand.... put that card in the module, do any editing with a working 4GB card, then transfer that to the PC and to the 32GB card ... Also load any and every new sample or song wave that comes along onto the 32GB card ... not really loosing all USB capability, just necessitating an extra step or 2.

From what I read in that SOS article it looks like Bengt has a 3 times compression feature planned in an update coming along in the future, which I suppose would give the ability to load a lot more samples, so maybe I'm jumping the gun here.... but hey, 32GB would look so much nicer on the module startup screen ;D  Plus I like the idea of being able to have multiple SD cards if I want.  8) Jman
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: edtc on February 16, 2011, 11:08:57 AM
hi JMAN

first ,bravo for your diy work , i saw your vidéos as i was researching ideas , and was really impressed with what you achieved.
Quote from: Jman on February 16, 2011, 05:28:37 AM
.... I figure I will keep the original 4GB card plus another 4GB card on hand.... put that card in the module, do any editing with a working 4GB card, then transfer that to the PC and to the 32GB card ... Also load any and every new sample or song wave that comes along onto the 32GB card ... not really loosing all USB capability, just necessitating an extra step or 2.

IMO , those 2 steps will take longer than you may think , usb1 is slow and 4gb is long to transfer (remember last century...when we had more hairs...:))

I never had the oportunity to try , but i think it is possible to edit the SD card directly in the PC ... just have to tell the editor the right path ...

So .... welcome onboard , and glad you gave your nice drum kit a good module :)
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Slap the drummer on February 16, 2011, 12:28:10 PM
Hi jman-
Yes that's right, you can edit using the editor without the module being involved.  From memory there doesn't have
to be a card involved either, just point the editor at any folder (on PC drive).  Or just edit the 32gb card directly
within the module.  It's only the USB transfer affected by the 4GB limit issue.....
which actually gives rise to another point I guess  :) - you can't edit the 32GB card with the editor when IT IS IN
the module!
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Jman on February 16, 2011, 06:26:40 PM
Quote from: edtc on February 16, 2011, 11:08:57 AM
hi JMAN

first ,bravo for your diy work , i saw your vidéos as i was researching ideas , and was really impressed with what you achieved.IMO , those 2 steps will take longer than you may think , usb1 is slow and 4gb is long to transfer (remember last century...when we had more hairs...:))

I never had the opportunity to try , but i think it is possible to edit the SD card directly in the PC ... just have to tell the editor the right path ...

So .... welcome onboard , and glad you gave your nice drum kit a good module :)

Thnx for the kudos and info edtc, Hey, how'd you know about the hair? I wear a cap in my videos ;D My kit is one of the reasons I hadn't considered the Drumit 5 til recently when I saw some posts and realized that cymbals and cymbal inputs are just single piezo/switch type, and I already knew drums were piezo/piezo, so now I am confident I can start working out specifics to get my triggers working well with the module. HH will be the main challenge, but this is all off topic .... so another thread, another day.
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Jman on February 16, 2011, 06:39:59 PM
Quote from: Slap the drummer on February 16, 2011, 12:28:10 PM
Hi jman-
Yes that's right, you can edit using the editor without the module being involved.  From memory there doesn't have
to be a card involved either, just point the editor at any folder (on PC drive).  Or just edit the 32gb card directly
within the module.  It's only the USB transfer affected by the 4GB limit issue.....
which actually gives rise to another point I guess  :) - you can't edit the 32GB card with the editor when IT IS IN
the module!


Thanks, that's the info I need.... I've been reading lots, and retaining some, all head knowledge until I get my hands on this thing.... now I remember that the present beta version of the editor won't allow you to keep changes via USB, and isn't ready for the newest drumit 5 OS... Looks like I could use the earlier OS file system with the editor to do the edits, but might just be easier to wait for version 1.0.
I may be missing something, but even if you cannot save changes with the editor via USB with the module.... wouldn't a removable SDHC card help since you could just do changes on the PC files (with the next Editor version), save on the SDHC and put the card back in the module?
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Jman on February 16, 2011, 06:57:55 PM
Quote from: MarkuZ on January 13, 2011, 08:49:48 PM
32GB is running fine too  ;D

It is a Transcend 32Gb Class 10
My original Card was a Kingston class 6.

Have a look here:
http://www.drummerforum.de/forum/40438-2box-drumit-five-bestellt-fotos-test-und-erfahrungen-hier-sobald-es-eintrifft/thread65.html#post883808

I found 2 different Transcend 32GB Class 10 cards.
This one:
http://www.goodsatdeal.com/Reviews/Transcend-32-GB-Class-10-SDHC-Flash-Memory-Card-TS32GSDHC10E.html
and This one:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/712659-REG/Transcend_TS32GSDHC10_32GB_SDHC_Card.html

Could you tell me which one you are using? Edit: OK ... looks like by the photo of your module with the card in it .... it is the 1st link......
thanks, J
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: nonoduweb on February 17, 2011, 06:57:56 AM
Quote from: Jman on February 16, 2011, 06:57:55 PM
Could you tell me which one you are using?

Here is another picture from the german forum wich shows the good job of MarkuZ.  ;D

(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/8739/2boxsdslot9.jpg) (http://img5.imageshack.us/i/2boxsdslot9.jpg/)

Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Jman on February 17, 2011, 07:10:24 AM
Quote from: nonoduweb on February 17, 2011, 06:57:56 AM
Here is another picture from the german forum wich shows the good job of MarkuZ.  ;D

(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/8739/2boxsdslot9.jpg) (http://img5.imageshack.us/i/2boxsdslot9.jpg/)



Thanks, yup, that's the one I ordered earlier this eve...  8)
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Slap the drummer on February 17, 2011, 02:33:26 PM
Quote from: Jman on February 16, 2011, 06:39:59 PM
.... wouldn't a removable SDHC card help since you could just do changes on the PC files (with the next Editor version), save on the SDHC and put the card back in the module?

Yes, shd work fine - sorry I may not have been clear.

If you want to use the "Editor" then you need to be able to remove the card and edit on PC of course (with card over 4GB)

OR, you could just edit the kits 'manually' using the module itself, in which case there's no need to remove card (although if
you want to add new sounds to the memory bank this wd have to be done on a PC since the USB won't work for this either.
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Jman on February 17, 2011, 03:05:46 PM
Quote from: Slap the drummer on February 17, 2011, 02:33:26 PM
Yes, shd work fine - sorry I may not have been clear.

If you want to use the "Editor" then you need to be able to remove the card and edit on PC of course (with card over 4GB)

OR, you could just edit the kits 'manually' using the module itself, in which case there's no need to remove card (although if
you want to add new sounds to the memory bank this wd have to be done on a PC since the USB won't work for this either.

Thanks so much, very helpful. I think you were clear explaining, I'm just catchin on, and making sure I'm on track. Still weeks before I get my hands on the module, but I like to get up to speed in advance where possible. J
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: roel on February 17, 2011, 07:33:09 PM
Hello Jman, I had visit your drumsite long time ago and I really like it. Now Iam reading that you also own a 2box set thats great!.What are you thoughts about it compared to roland and yamaha?
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Jman on February 17, 2011, 07:54:47 PM
Quote from: roel on February 17, 2011, 07:33:09 PM
Hello Jman, I had visit your drumsite long time ago and I really like it. Now Iam reading that you also own a 2box set thats great!.What are you thoughts about it compared to roland and yamaha?

Thanks roel: It is still in the UK ... my friend there is going to ship to me after he tests it for himself.... and he might keep it for a week or so before sending me the parts I want. His statement was that the sounds are "impressive". I have demoed Drumit 5 at Winter NAMM twice, Bengt wasn't at Winter NAMM this year. I have liked the sounds when testing, but that is not much time. There were quite a few problems at the 1st show, (it hadn't been released yet). 2nd show, still working out some gliches I thought. It now seems things are ironed out more, as you guys know on this forum... Like I mentioned earlier, I plan to adapt my own drums/triggers to use with the module.

I still have an expanded TD-20 module which I will be able to use for A/B comparison, which will give me a much better perspective... but honestly, I am excited at the potential, looking forward to those new sounds.

Sorry, don't mean to hijack this thread :-[
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Jman on February 20, 2011, 12:13:05 AM
I received my SDHC Extender Cable/adapter today. Much sooner than I expected, I received it from China to So Cal, US within one week of purchase. Ships International ... so I will let you know how well it works. This is the item:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320624495515&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

I won't have my Drumit 5 module for a couple weeks at least, so I'll come back with progress and pics. I tested the adapter on my PC using a 32GB card I already had... recognized it fine after formatting.

The flat cable is quite thin  8) ... I plan to do mine as an alternative for those that are afraid to do any permanent mods to the module case. Since the flat cable is so thin, I think I will be able to slide it out of the module case, use a small amount of electrical tape to shim where it squeezes through to protect it from getting pinched... then mount the Plastic card slot part on the side of the module with some strong 2 sided tape... I'll come back when I go forward and take pics along the way... This should be a nice option, and completely reversible.  

J
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: AA_ on February 20, 2011, 11:33:57 AM
Quote from: Jman on February 20, 2011, 12:13:05 AM
(...) I plan to do mine as an alternative for those that are afraid to do any permanent mods to the module case. Since the flat cable is so thin, I think I will be able to slide it out of the module case, use a small amount of electrical tape to shim where it squeezes through to protect it from getting pinched... then mount the Plastic card slot part on the side of the module with some strong 2 sided tape... I'll come back when I go forward and take pics along the way... This should be a nice option, and completely reversible. (...)

good idea :)

that was my first version:

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13186083/images/HPIM2266.JPG)

and after successful tests:

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13186083/images/HPIM2269.JPG)
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Jman on February 20, 2011, 02:43:38 PM
Quote from: AA_ on February 20, 2011, 11:33:57 AM
good idea :)

that was my first version:

Yup, saw that pic ... that's my inspiration! I wasn't sure whether you had tightened the screws up on the casing, but now that I look closer, it looks like you had it completely assembled that way, cool .... I may just end up doing a slot too, just like you... later on after I am sure I have no glitches...
I was wondering if you think I will run into any problems as far as insulation/shielding on the flat ribbon type cable extending out of the module like that?


Also, you have had the slot and larger SDHC card for months now, have you run into any problems at all?  Also, if I do the slot I like the hot glue idea especially since it is quick ... no need to clamp things in place waiting for adhesive to dry... Is that holding up well?
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: AA_ on February 20, 2011, 04:30:58 PM
Quote from: Jman on February 20, 2011, 02:43:38 PM
(...)
I was wondering if you think I will run into any problems as far as insulation/shielding on the flat ribbon type cable extending out of the module like that?
(...)

I had never problems with it (cable length 50cm).

Quote from: Jman on February 20, 2011, 02:43:38 PM
(...)
Also, you have had the slot and larger SDHC card for months now, have you run into any problems at all?
(...)

no problems.

Quote from: Jman on February 20, 2011, 02:43:38 PM
Also, if I do the slot I like the hot glue idea especially since it is quick ... no need to clamp things in place waiting for adhesive to dry... Is that holding up well?

yes, this holds. but a mechanical connection is better.

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13186083/images/HPIM3026.JPG)
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Jman on February 20, 2011, 09:38:12 PM
Quote from: AA_ on February 20, 2011, 04:30:58 PM
I had never problems with it (cable length 50cm).

no problems.

yes, this holds. but a mechanical connection is better.

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13186083/images/HPIM3026.JPG)

Nice! Looks like you used existing mounting holes..... with some type of standoffs under the plate? Or, longer screws plus spacers?
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: AA_ on February 20, 2011, 09:46:08 PM
longer screws plus spacers :)
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Jman on March 09, 2011, 04:40:08 AM
Quick question ..... OK I want to create a 32GB card now .... I have made a couple backup copies of my Drumit Five via USB on my desktop ..... One I just put all the files from the module on my desktop.... the other I right clicked on the Drumit Five drive and copied that to my desktop.... seems like a simple question ..   Should I just copy the folder that says DRUMIT FIVE to my 32GB card (card is formatted correctly already) ..... Or should I take each individual file/folder from the backup and place those in the 32GB card ....

In other words should I have the DRUMIT FIVE (Outer) folder in the card or just the individual folders and files? Also do I put the sound files plus the .metadata file, drumit.dkit file and the Drumit110.bin file on the card? ..... or just the sound files?

Thanks in advance, Jerry

(I also did the OS update from 1.04 to 1.10 ..... man is that simple..... took only a few seconds ....)
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: fishmonkey on March 09, 2011, 11:05:42 AM
hey there, you should select all the files and folders from inside your backup DRUMIT FIVE folder, and copy all those onto the new card.

you definitely need the drumit.dkit file (it is the file that contains all the drumkits and their settings, including which actual samples are used for each drum kit), and the Drumit110.bin file (that is the firmware). not sure about the .metadata file but you may as well copy that too...
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Jman on March 10, 2011, 06:18:23 AM
Quote from: fishmonkey on March 09, 2011, 11:05:42 AM
hey there, you should select all the files and folders from inside your backup DRUMIT FIVE folder, and copy all those onto the new card.

you definitely need the drumit.dkit file (it is the file that contains all the drumkits and their settings, including which actual samples are used for each drum kit), and the Drumit110.bin file (that is the firmware). not sure about the .metadata file but you may as well copy that too...


Perfect .... worked like a charm. Thanks, J
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Jman on March 10, 2011, 06:51:40 AM
I'm now a card carrying member of the 2Box External SDHC Memory Slot Club!!! Got my gear yesterday, but had to work so only got to fool with it some last night.... till 2:00 AM. Then up at 6:00 AM ... off to work .... Tonight I did the modification... I highly recommend it... more horsePower, much, much faster to load sound files via card reader... Drag n Drop, baby.... love it. I have loaded every extra sound file from 2Box ... and still only at 15% capacity. I attached my card slot to the outside of the module with some super strong ... Killer Red 2 sided tape. I also put my original 4GB 2Box card back in the slot to test ... so I can access USB through the module if I wanted to .... just by slipping a 4GB card in... so really there is plenty of advantage to having the card accessible ... in my mind anyway.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7533/16151403167_f00fd41649_s.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qBfasp)8 Lots of new files added - Copy (https://flic.kr/p/qBfasp) by dajmando (https://www.flickr.com/people/119814595@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7493/16336411812_fbbcfd0d1a_s.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qTAo5C)6 Slot attached to side - Copy (https://flic.kr/p/qTAo5C) by dajmando (https://www.flickr.com/people/119814595@N06/), on Flickr
Haven't had much time to actually play yet.... but I knew I wanted to do this first thing!! :rock: :drum2:
off to bed....later, J

Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Remi on March 10, 2011, 07:18:44 PM
Hi Jman,

Do you have an article number of the extension cable?
This is a great option.
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Jman on March 11, 2011, 12:46:55 AM
Quote from: Remi on March 10, 2011, 07:18:44 PM
Hi Jman,

Do you have an article number of the extension cable?
This is a great option.

Hi Remi: Got it on eBay.... comes from China, ships worldwide, very reasonbly priced ... and it came much sooner than I expected .... couple weeks after I ordered if I remember right. Good seller, good communication too... emailed me shipping info next day....  that was my experience anyway:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320624495515&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Remi on March 11, 2011, 10:49:49 PM
Quote from: Jman on March 11, 2011, 12:46:55 AM
Hi Remi: Got it on eBay.... comes from China, ships worldwide, very reasonbly priced ... and it came much sooner than I expected .... couple weeks after I ordered if I remember right. Good seller, good communication too... emailed me shipping info next day....  that was my experience anyway:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320624495515&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

Many thanks for your info......

Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: edtc on March 11, 2011, 11:57:39 PM
... Good guys sharing good infos  :rock:
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: rcprod on March 12, 2011, 11:58:12 AM
Thanks for the pics and info Jman.

Does the module use an SDHC card or an SD card? What brand and Class did you use for a card?

Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Jman on March 12, 2011, 05:16:25 PM
Quote from: rcprod on March 12, 2011, 11:58:12 AM
Thanks for the pics and info Jman.

Does the module use an SDHC card or an SD card? What brand and Class did you use for a card?


Hi Rcprod: SDHC. I used the exact same card as Markuz. I wanted something I already knew would work. Trascend SDHC Class 10 32GB ... Here is the one like I bought:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Transcend-32-GB-SDHC-Class-10-Memory-Card-TS32GSDHC10_W0QQitemZ320667925951QQcategoryZ51071QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZe17001.m7QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D6%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D7687916063929585895
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: rcprod on March 13, 2011, 09:15:01 AM
Quote from: Jman on March 12, 2011, 05:16:25 PM
Hi Rcprod: SDHC. I used the exact same card as Markuz. I wanted something I already knew would work. Trascend SDHC Class 10 32GB ... Here is the one like I bought:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Transcend-32-GB-SDHC-Class-10-Memory-Card-TS32GSDHC10_W0QQitemZ320667925951QQcategoryZ51071QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZe17001.m7QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D6%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D7687916063929585895

Thank You.
;D
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: rcprod on March 20, 2011, 02:38:52 AM
Has anyone tried a Kingston 32 GB Class 10 card or heard anything good/bad about them?
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Baby Samus on April 03, 2011, 08:45:39 PM
Quote from: rcprod on March 20, 2011, 02:38:52 AM
Has anyone tried a Kingston 32 GB Class 10 card or heard anything good/bad about them?

The card that comes in the 2Box is actually Class 6 I think, so any Class 10 card should work with the 2Box - Class 10 guarantees a standard write speed in particular conditions, see wikipedia: 

The Class number represents a multiple of 8 Mbits/s (1 MB/s), and meets the least sustained write speeds for a card in a fragmented state.[23] These are the ratings of some currently available cards:[23]

    Class 0 cards do not specify performance, which includes all legacy cards prior to class specifications.
    Class 2, 2 MB/s, slowest for SDHC cards.
    Class 4, 4 MB/s.
    Class 6, 6 MB/s.
    Class 10, 10 MB/s.


Even then, the module is more concerned with the speed of read operations, which in a Class 10 card will be closer to 20 MB/s.  So in theory, all class 10 cards should perform at a suitable level even when heavily fragmented.  Any that don't will be the exception rather than the rule.

I actually just bought 2 * 16GB Class 10 PNY Pro (Read 20MB/s Write 18MB/s) memory cards, and am in the process of ordering an SD card extension cable to mod the module - fingers crossed it all goes to plan as you can never have enough space eh?  JMan I will take a look at your pics thanks man.  Can't wait to start making some large detailed samples.  I thought I would buy 2 cards the same and keep a backup, in case a card fails so I can replace it quickly.  Man if your card failed live and you had no backup that would suck big style  :-X



Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Jman on April 05, 2011, 02:15:00 PM
Quote from: Baby Samus on April 03, 2011, 08:45:39 PM
The card that comes in the 2Box is actually Class 6 I think, so any Class 10 card should work with the 2Box - Class 10 guarantees a standard write speed in particular conditions, see wikipedia:  

The Class number represents a multiple of 8 Mbits/s (1 MB/s), and meets the least sustained write speeds for a card in a fragmented state.[23] These are the ratings of some currently available cards:[23]

   Class 0 cards do not specify performance, which includes all legacy cards prior to class specifications.
   Class 2, 2 MB/s, slowest for SDHC cards.
   Class 4, 4 MB/s.
   Class 6, 6 MB/s.
   Class 10, 10 MB/s.


Even then, the module is more concerned with the speed of read operations, which in a Class 10 card will be closer to 20 MB/s.  So in theory, all class 10 cards should perform at a suitable level even when heavily fragmented.  Any that don't will be the exception rather than the rule.

I actually just bought 2 * 16GB Class 10 PNY Pro (Read 20MB/s Write 18MB/s) memory cards, and am in the process of ordering an SD card extension cable to mod the module - fingers crossed it all goes to plan as you can never have enough space eh?  JMan I will take a look at your pics thanks man.  Can't wait to start making some large detailed samples.  I thought I would buy 2 cards the same and keep a backup, in case a card fails so I can replace it quickly.  Man if your card failed live and you had no backup that would suck big style  :-X




Yes, the original card in my module was a Class 6 Kingston card.
I honestly don't anticipate any failure. No more so than with the original card. This thing has worked flawlessly. And I think that is the same for the others now using the larger cards. And really this is a good thing if you ever did have a failure during a live performance. Just keep an extra backup card with you. If your module fails, turn it off, switch cards..... Cool thing is that you can keep that backup on another card or use multiple cards if you like. Just turn off the module, insert a card, turn on the module and play. Switch cards as much as you like....  8) Oh, and when doing the extender cable, the nice thing is there is a step by step guide for taking the module apart and changing memory cards on the 2Box website. That takes the fear factor out of crackin open that module.
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Jman on April 17, 2011, 07:50:11 AM
Don't waste your money on this one:(http://weblogimages.com/dajmando/Centon%2032GB%20junk.jpg)

After countless times trying to format, finally formatted it didn't work .... NO OS error .... thinking it was a bad file or ??? I reformatted and loaded everything again ... over and over... I finally got the thing working ... then removed it from the module, put it back in and got the error again .... I finally figured out,  more or less ... that something is funny with the way it fits physically ... or the lock tab ... cause I could wiggle it ... move the lock tab back and forth ... etc... and get it to work, hit or miss though .... so stay clear is my advice .... trying to save $5 ... basically is costing me $95, by the time I purchased a different card ... $45 for that one and $50 for the Transcend 32GB that I already know works!  Fortunately this Centon works in my dig. mini camcorder .... but I didn't need one for that :'(
Title: Trouble taking out main board
Post by: digitalDrummer on August 07, 2011, 09:31:10 AM
Did anyone else have trouble removing the Torx screws from the main board? I have four screws which were overtightened and won't budge. In fact, they were distorted when they were installed, so the Torx bit simply rotates in the screw.
Anyone know how to get them out without damaging the board?
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: digitalDrummer on August 07, 2011, 11:50:50 PM
Quick update: a new high quality screwdriver and a drop of WD-40 did the trick. For anyone contemplating this, it's worth buying a decent Trox screwdriver. The $2 shop variety are too soft and the star just wears down before you're halfway!
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: twisted.mellow on August 08, 2011, 01:11:10 AM
Looking at this card here... this should work OK?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Transcend-32GB-SDHC-Secure-Digital-SD-HC-Card-Class-10-/390304394781?pt=AU_Electronics_Memory_Cards&hash=item5adff46e1d
(http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Transcend-32GB-SDHC-Secure-Digital-SD-HC-Card-Class-10-/390304394781?pt=AU_Electronics_Memory_Cards&hash=item5adff46e1d)
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Jman on August 08, 2011, 01:20:10 AM
Quote from: twisted.mellow on August 08, 2011, 01:11:10 AM
Looking at this card here... this should work OK?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Transcend-32GB-SDHC-Secure-Digital-SD-HC-Card-Class-10-/390304394781?pt=AU_Electronics_Memory_Cards&hash=item5adff46e1d
(http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Transcend-32GB-SDHC-Secure-Digital-SD-HC-Card-Class-10-/390304394781?pt=AU_Electronics_Memory_Cards&hash=item5adff46e1d)
I have used that card in the past, but found noticable improvement with Sandisk:
http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php/topic,914.0.html
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: adorval on August 12, 2011, 10:39:47 PM
Has anyone thought of just splicing a usb card reader in?
Not sure if it's even doable, just an idea:

Current connection of card to computer via 2box usb:
sd card  -> 2box circut board -> usb plug in back panel -> usb cable -> computer

Would it be possible to insert a usb card reader into the chain where the card connects to the brain?
sd card -> circut board -> usb plug in back panel -> usb cable -> computer
             \
               -> usb card reader -> new usb port -> usb cable ->computer

Where you wire each of the tines from the card slot on the 2box brain, to the tines on a usb card reader like this:
(http://hackedgadgets.com/wp-content/_usb_SD_card_reader_2.jpg)

And then use an adapter to mount a new usb port that connects to the usb card reader like this:
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSerEve7ldDqDU45Uv0-wn7m505em5GbrOrU1sboed77cH4wsdI)

it would bypass the 2box brain all together when you plugged in the new usb port to your computer, and just let your computer write directly to the card, as if it was removed and slotted in to the compter. 

off the top of my head it would be a difficult project to wire the sd card reader tines, and im unsure if that connection would wreck anything on the circut board when you plug it in to your computer

it would be as if the card was simultaneously plugged into your computer AND the 2box brain

if only there was such a thing as an sd card splitter
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: puttenvr on August 14, 2011, 05:55:07 AM
Great find
Just a small software update (hint ...) and it works
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: edtc on August 23, 2011, 07:16:52 PM
hello

sandisk sdhc cards are getting cheaper ... I ve found a 16GB EXTREMEIII class10 for 32.15€ incl shippment .

here is a link... http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B0037FLUYU/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&seller=

Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: twisted.mellow on August 24, 2011, 03:05:20 AM
Just picked up a 32gb Class 10 Patriot card this weekend for $45 AU - Bargain! Works like a charm :)

Interestingly enough, the 4gb card I pulled OUT of the 2Box was a Class 10 - good to see they are updating the specs in newer models :)
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Jman on August 24, 2011, 03:15:22 AM
Quote from: twisted.mellow on August 24, 2011, 03:05:20 AM
Interestingly enough, the 4gb card I pulled OUT of the 2Box was a Class 10 - good to see they are updating the specs in newer models :)
Yeah, mine was Class 10 also.
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Deve Loper on August 24, 2011, 07:26:08 AM
Hi.
Defragmenting has no effect at all.
Also the speed class doesn't give the whole picture. The access time is extremely important but unfortunately hardly specified by sd card manufacturers.
Deve.
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: digitalDrummer on August 26, 2011, 02:09:25 AM
Quote from: twisted.mellow on August 24, 2011, 03:05:20 AM
Just picked up a 32gb Class 10 Patriot card this weekend for $45 AU - Bargain! Works like a charm :)

Interestingly enough, the 4gb card I pulled OUT of the 2Box was a Class 10 - good to see they are updating the specs in newer models :)
Ian, are you going to redefine what "works like a charm" means???
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: twisted.mellow on August 26, 2011, 02:13:49 AM
Ha ha yeah... my first tests were quick with only the snare.

The reality is different. After playing a basic beat with tom work, as soon as the module starts to labour, the sounds break up and latency goes way up.

I'm pretty sure that this card is faulty. Tried formatting it, does the same thing.

$45 bargain isn't a bargain. I figured Patriot cards were OK - I've used patriot ram before and it's still running in an old box from a few years ago!

Am currently in the process of organising to return it and get a different brand.

Thanks for the reminder to update Allan! :)
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Jman on August 26, 2011, 03:54:09 AM
OK, prolly too good to be true, but I took the bait anyway.... I'll see if they are genuine in original packaging like claimed..... bought 2 at $29.99 ea. free shipping :
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SANDISK-EXTREME-HD-VIDEO-SDHC-SD-HC-32GB-32G-32-G-30MB-/200645002302?pt=Digital_Camera_Memory_Cards&hash=item2eb75fc43e
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: twisted.mellow on August 26, 2011, 04:12:18 AM
If that works out for you, I'll buy as well :)
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Jman on August 26, 2011, 04:16:11 AM
Quote from: twisted.mellow on August 26, 2011, 04:12:18 AM
If that works out for you, I'll buy as well :)
I paid almost $90 ea. for my last ones, that are definitely genuine .... and I have already gotten one Sandisk Extreme 32GB from another eBayer that was definitely NOT GENUINE .... so I have my doubts on this one .... but call me a sucker for a good deal ::)
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: digitalDrummer on August 26, 2011, 04:18:51 AM
They don't ship to Australia. If Jerry gets his, maybe we can talk to him about acting as shipping agent!! At that price, it's hard to imagine that they will actually be shipped anywhere and/or that they're not counterfeit!! Thank goodness for eBay buyer protection.
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Jman on August 26, 2011, 05:38:35 AM
Quote from: digitalDrummer on August 26, 2011, 04:18:51 AM
They don't ship to Australia. If Jerry gets his, maybe we can talk to him about acting as shipping agent!! At that price, it's hard to imagine that they will actually be shipped anywhere and/or that they're not counterfeit!! Thank goodness for eBay buyer protection.

No problem, I'd help ya out .... not sure how many there are or how long they will last, and if I knew they were the real deal I'd buy a bunch up .... but coming from China like this .... seems like a crap shoot, so I definitely have to see if it's a great deal or a lousy scam. This is definitely one of those that seems to good to be true ..... and we all know how that usually works out :'(
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Jman on August 26, 2011, 06:12:48 AM
Quote from: digitalDrummer on August 26, 2011, 04:18:51 AM
They don't ship to Australia. If Jerry gets his, maybe we can talk to him about acting as shipping agent!! At that price, it's hard to imagine that they will actually be shipped anywhere and/or that they're not counterfeit!! Thank goodness for eBay buyer protection.
Ya know what .... it says they do ship to Australia under the shipping and handling tab ...... Us, Canada, United Kingdom, Australia, and Japan

Click on the All available, then click get rates ... and it says contact the seller for rates to UK, Australia, Japan...

This may be a dif. listing ... but check it out:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SANDISK-EXTREME-HD-VIDEO-SDHC-SD-HC-32GB-32G-32-G-30MB-/200645079252?pt=Digital_Camera_Memory_Cards&hash=item2eb760f0d4#shId
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: waynec42 on September 01, 2011, 07:48:02 AM
Anyone able to point me in the direction of an SD Card extension cable? None on ebay. Can't find them anywhere.

I'm in Australia.

Thanks.
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: digitalDrummer on September 01, 2011, 07:58:03 AM
I got mine from this ebay store: http://myworld.ebay.com/e-buyer1997/
They don't have any listed, but it may be worth contacting them.
:patbat2box:
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Jman on September 01, 2011, 08:18:11 AM
Quote from: waynec42 on September 01, 2011, 07:48:02 AM
Anyone able to point me in the direction of an SD Card extension cable? None on ebay. Can't find them anywhere.

I'm in Australia.

Thanks.
http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php/topic,919.0.html
Still have some. If you can't find them .... J
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: waynec42 on September 01, 2011, 10:12:42 AM
Quote from: Jman on September 01, 2011, 08:18:11 AM
http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php/topic,919.0.html
Still have some. If you can't find them .... J

Yes please. How to arrange transaction?
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Jman on September 01, 2011, 03:50:49 PM
Quote from: waynec42 on September 01, 2011, 10:12:42 AM
Yes please. How to arrange transaction?
Hi, email me at dajmando@yahoo.com   thanks, J
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Jman on September 07, 2011, 03:18:49 AM
Quote from: Jman on August 26, 2011, 04:16:11 AM
I paid almost $90 ea. for my last ones, that are definitely genuine .... and I have already gotten one Sandisk Extreme 32GB from another eBayer that was definitely NOT GENUINE .... so I have my doubts on this one .... but call me a sucker for a good deal ::)

Sure doesn't look like 2 Extreme Sandisk SDHC cards to me!
(http://weblogimages.com/dajmando/Chinese%20Extreme%20Sandisk%20Card%20Scam.jpg)
So now I start the pain in the arse process of getting a refund.... contact the scammer ... or seller, wait for response, prolly have to open a case .... etc. etc...
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: edtc on September 07, 2011, 03:32:02 AM
... this yellow USB something was supposed to be a SD card ?
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Jman on September 07, 2011, 03:38:22 AM
Quote from: edtc on September 07, 2011, 03:32:02 AM
... this yellow USB something was supposed to be a SD card ?
Yeah, that yellow card reader that costs about $2 on eBay was supposed to be 2 of these:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SANDISK-EXTREME-HD-VIDEO-SDHC-SD-HC-32GB-32G-32-G-30MB-/200645002302?pt=Digital_Camera_Memory_Cards&hash=item2eb75fc43e
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: edtc on September 07, 2011, 03:43:43 AM
At least it will be easy and obvious to prove it s not what you paid for ... easyer than if it was a fake version of a SD card ...

Maybe it s just an error of packing ...
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Jman on September 07, 2011, 03:52:54 AM
Quote from: edtc on September 07, 2011, 03:43:43 AM
At least it will be easy and obvious to prove it s not what you paid for ... easyer than if it was a fake version of a SD card ...

Maybe it s just an error of packing ...
I thought it was too good to be true... expected it might be a couple FAKE Sandisk cards ... definitely didn't expect that kind of crap ::)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-USB-2-0-SDHC-SD-MMC-High-Speed-Memory-Card-Reader-/260724474288?pt=PCC_Drives_Storage_Internal&hash=item3cb463c1b0
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: twisted.mellow on September 07, 2011, 04:04:01 AM
Well THAT sucks! Hope the resolution is simple... Also, while I'm on here JMan... I might need to buy one of those SD card extenders of you really soon... gonna buy another 2Box module next week (after I sell my TD-20 Expanded!)...hang on to one for me if you've got spares!
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Jman on September 07, 2011, 04:07:03 AM
Quote from: twisted.mellow on September 07, 2011, 04:04:01 AM
Well THAT sucks! Hope the resolution is simple... Also, while I'm on here JMan... I might need to buy one of those SD card extenders of you really soon... gonna buy another 2Box module next week (after I sell my TD-20 Expanded!)...hang on to one for me if you've got spares!
Yeah, I've got a few left... I'll keep one aside for ya in case...

The seller responded to my message .... says he will refund my money in the evening if not satisfied .... If not satisfied.....??????  ::)
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: edtc on September 07, 2011, 04:10:26 AM
Quote from: Jman on September 07, 2011, 03:52:54 AM
I thought it was too good to be true... expected it might be a couple FAKE Sandisk cards ... definitely didn't expect that kind of crap ::)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-USB-2-0-SDHC-SD-MMC-High-Speed-Memory-Card-Reader-/260724474288?pt=PCC_Drives_Storage_Internal&hash=item3cb463c1b0

By the way , i found an invoice in my postbox today ... it might be tour packet ...ihope i wont find this inside it .... ;)

(http://www.1001-jeux.com/images/7660.jpg)
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Jman on September 07, 2011, 04:13:22 AM
Quote from: edtc on September 07, 2011, 04:10:26 AM
By the way , i found an invoice in my postbox today ... it might be tour packet ...ihope i wont find this inside it .... ;)

(http://www.1001-jeux.com/images/7660.jpg)

Definitely NOT ..... I didn't have anything like that (plus I like that, I definitely wouldn't part with one of those!) .... I had a bunch of those cheap card readers though  I may have shipped one of those ;D :P
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Jman on September 07, 2011, 04:16:19 AM
Quote from: edtc on September 07, 2011, 04:10:26 AM
By the way , i found an invoice in my postbox today ... it might be your packet ...ihope i wont find this inside it .... ;)

(http://www.1001-jeux.com/images/7660.jpg)
ya think they will charge you a customs fee? Speaking of which..... I received my 2nd 2Box module weeks ago .... then just a few days back I got a little notice from FedEx ... charged me $75 US customs fee...  :-[
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: edtc on September 07, 2011, 04:23:24 AM
I will see for the custom fees.... it happens sometimes ,but its rare .... in my experience , using standard USPS shipping gives you less chances to pay fees than with UPS or FEDEX ...


Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Jman on September 07, 2011, 04:27:48 AM
Quote from: edtc on September 07, 2011, 04:23:24 AM
I will see for the custom fees.... it happens sometimes ,but its rare .... in my experience , using standard USPS shipping gives you less chances to pay fees than with UPS or FEDEX ...
Yup, I had heard horror stories about FedEx customs fees before... and also heard USPS is usually a better chance of no fees ... vice versa I think .... if things come in via Post Office here in the US I think they slide more too... My first module/kit I bought used with all the pads from the UK ... but a friend actually bought it over there and shipped it for me, no fees that way ...
OK ... I've hijacked this thread enough .....  :)
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: rcprod on September 11, 2011, 10:23:08 PM
Can anyone suggest where I could buy a SDHC Card Extension Cable in Canada or the US? (with the URL would be helpful)

Thanks.
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Manfred on September 11, 2011, 11:17:12 PM


http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php/topic,919.0.html

Got mine from Jman and it works flawlessly with a 32GB Sandisk Extreme HD Video 30MB/s.

Regards, Manfred
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: rcprod on September 12, 2011, 08:24:15 AM
Thank you Manfred.
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Slonken on May 22, 2012, 12:27:03 PM
hi! sorry for maybe a dumb question, tried to read the hole thread but I'm not 100% shire.

is it possible to upgrade to 16Gb with out using the extension. if i change from the original sd card to a compatible 16Gb card. can i change and loud new sound threw the usb mode ore do i need to take out the card from the brain each time i want new samples?
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Haggis-man on May 22, 2012, 12:44:20 PM
Hi Slonken,

4Gb s the limit of the USB connection on the 2box module, so anything bigger will not work unless you take the card out and use on a PC or Mac.
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Slonken on May 22, 2012, 01:41:24 PM
okey, thanks for a fast and good answer:-)
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: reekster on November 01, 2012, 08:30:09 PM
Hey follow 2box'rz,
Just some helpful insight. I just installed the SDHC extender and I'm using a 32 gig Sandisk Extreme 10 card. I had a different card and kept trying to format it to the right spec and on the Mac, that was impossible. The OSX Disk Utility App will not allow the proper formatting. When I got this new SanDisk card, I didn't format it and left it how it came, copying all the data over from the factory SDHC card and everything works fine.

I have had a couple boot up failures but rebooting seems to solve that. Thanks to everyone for the info on upgrading, and getting the right cards to use. I'll post some cool sound sets for you all in a few weeks when I can get to that task.

Havok :patbat2box:
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: tower of p on November 02, 2012, 01:08:13 PM
Quote from: reekster on November 01, 2012, 08:30:09 PM
Hey follow 2box'rz,
Just some helpful insight. I just installed the SDHC extender and I'm using a 32 gig Sandisk Extreme 10 card. I had a different card and kept trying to format it to the right spec and on the Mac, that was impossible. The OSX Disk Utility App will not allow the proper formatting. When I got this new SanDisk card, I didn't format it and left it how it came, copying all the data over from the factory SDHC card and everything works fine.

I have had a couple boot up failures but rebooting seems to solve that. Thanks to everyone for the info on upgrading, and getting the right cards to use. I'll post some cool sound sets for you all in a few weeks when I can get to that task.

Havok :patbat2box:

Hey dudes,

if you have an incorrect formatted sd-card (e.g. because you tried to format it yourself via windows or mac os system tools), you need to re-format it with this tool:

https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/formatter_3/

win and mac put wrong clustersizes on the card (4kbyte I think), but sd cards need clustersize of 32 kbyte, which the "SD Formatter" does.

cheerio,

Lutz
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: tower of p on November 02, 2012, 01:10:25 PM
Quote from: reekster on November 01, 2012, 08:30:09 PM

I'll post some cool sound sets for you all in a few weeks when I can get to that task.


I´m really looking forward to that!!  :patbat2box:
Title: Re: 16GB SDHC Memory Card
Post by: Jman on November 30, 2012, 04:41:15 PM
I would stress that people not format their card before using it, but if you do have a reason to format definitely use the formatter linked by tower of p above.

The most current 32GB cards that work well with the 2Box module are the Lexar and PNY cards here:
http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php?topic=1136.0
Those cards are good to use straight out of the package, no formatting necessary.

Also, another mistake people make is trying to access the module by plugging into USB after doing the 16 or 32GB card mod. Do not use the USB module connect after doing the mod. Simply plug your card into a Card Reader and access it that way! You cannot use the USB function straight to the module with a card larger than 4GB! J