is shown here
http://www.myspace.com/2boxaustralia
i like it. it looks much more stronger. separate snare stand is good too. i really can't get the snare in the right place with the existing stand system.
Main question: does the kick pad still have a LED light ?
Pictures on the Swiss site
(http://www.triggerhead.com/page/files/products/2box/bilder/Mk2%20a.jpg)
(http://www.triggerhead.com/page/files/products/2box/bilder/Mk2%20c.jpg)
(http://www.triggerhead.com/page/files/products/2box/bilder/Mk2%20e.jpg)
:o I love it..........
Can current owners exchange their rack for a new designed one?
Yeah, the rack looks really good and wouldn´t mind it. Hopefully existing owners could pay a reasonable fee for a hardware update.
what happened to the kick-pad?! looks just like my customized one ...
Quote from: spoenk on July 22, 2010, 12:48:38 PM
what happened to the kick-pad?! looks just like my customized one ...
I would take that as a compliment Spoenk :) - that new bass drum setup might be directly because of your mod!
Although I'm bummed out a little that I won't get this new rack as an early adopter of the kit, its obvious that 2Box has been paying attention to its customers. We have been saying for a while that the rack is okay for home use but not gig worthy, and the snare basket is not good enough either. They are listening to us.
Slowly but surely the quality of the hardware is starting to catch up to the module's capabilities, and with the new hardware it looks far more like a contender to Roland and Yamaha's standards in that area.
There are still thinds to improve in the hardware I feel however.
The rim system in the pads. Sure it works, but its just a plastic o-ring with a thin bit of rubber attached and feels flimsy and plasticky when you hit it. Roland/Yamaha pads both have a stronger and sturdier solution. The 2Box pads are great, but imagine how good they would be with a proper rim system that you can really dig into...
Secondly the cymbal arms - they should really have boom arms on them so we can change the angle of the cymbal. Having a single piece of metal makes it more difficult to adjust and position your cymbals. This is a cheap addition.
Add a cable loom to the rack so that all cabling can be routed tidily to the module - again a cheap addition but one that adds a touch of class.
Give people the option of an XL pack when they buy the 2Box, which would include an extra 10" or 12" tom pad, and one extra cymbal over the normal pack.
i would have been happy to have paid a bit more to have better hardware.
i do hope they provide a reasonable upgrade path for early adopters.
Hi Everyone
I just wanted to assure you that early adopters will not be forgotten if/when new hardware like the rack is available.
Details are being finalised and we will release more info soon.
Thanks
Scott
Quote from: Scottie on July 22, 2010, 03:51:35 PM
Hi Everyone
I just wanted to assure you that early adopters will not be forgotten if/when new hardware like the rack is available.
Details are being finalised and we will release more info soon.
Thanks
Scott
Thank you man that's great! I really like this new rack,2box the company that listens to his customers my compliments!!!
But for me also the question, can we get a new rack and kickdrum? we have to wait for more info...
Quote from: Scottie on July 22, 2010, 03:51:35 PM
Hi Everyone
I just wanted to assure you that early adopters will not be forgotten if/when new hardware like the rack is available.
Details are being finalised and we will release more info soon.
Thanks
Scott
Sounds just great! Thanks!
What's new
http://dominantmusic.com.au/myspace/2box/2BOX%20DRUMIT%205%20MK2%20Whats%20New.pdf
Quote from: Scottie on July 22, 2010, 03:51:35 PM
Hi Everyone
I just wanted to assure you that early adopters will not be forgotten if/when new hardware like the rack is available.
Details are being finalised and we will release more info soon.
Thanks
Scott
Hi,
that sounds really great!! Would be nice if the early adopters could upgrade the rack for a special price. The rack at the picture looks much sturdier than my one. Especially if you add more cymbals to the current rack it gets shaky.
Manfred
Quote from: Baby Samus on July 22, 2010, 02:13:32 PM
I would take that as a compliment Spoenk :) - that new bass drum setup might be directly because of your mod!
it wasn't my idea...it was somebody here in this forum i took the idea from ... just don't remember who ...
Think it was AA
Quote from: spoenk on July 22, 2010, 09:06:11 PM
it wasn't my idea...it was somebody here in this forum i took the idea from ... just don't remember who ...
Or maybe from the german drummerforum? I think there was a description how to modify the kickpad.
Quote from: orly on July 22, 2010, 09:21:44 PM
Think it was AA
yesss :D
http://www.drummerforum.de/forum/40438-2box-drumit-five-bestellt-fotos-test-und-erfahrungen-hier-sobald-es-eintrifft/thread45.html#post762940 (2010-01-28)
http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php/topic,111.msg3347.html#msg3347
Quote from: Scottie on July 22, 2010, 03:51:35 PM
Hi Everyone
I just wanted to assure you that early adopters will not be forgotten if/when new hardware like the rack is available.
Details are being finalised and we will release more info soon.
Thanks
Scott
nice one!
Doesn't it have the "Optional strut bar" they're talking about at NAMM 2010?
http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php/topic,257.0.html,
It was a good idea...mainly if it could hold the kick from its upper part.
As you can see on the pictures: no
But one can always add an extra bar when desired
Quote from: Baby Samus on July 22, 2010, 02:13:32 PM
The rim system in the pads. Sure it works, but its just a plastic o-ring with a thin bit of rubber attached and feels flimsy and plasticky when you hit it. Roland/Yamaha pads both have a stronger and sturdier solution. The 2Box pads are great, but imagine how good they would be with a proper rim system that you can really dig into...
the rim system really could use improvements.
firstly, the triggering is very uneven around the rim.
secondly, the rim system is manufactured from very lightweight plastic and rubber. i've just dismantled my snare drum to find that the rubber has split and the hard clear plastic inner ring that transmits the hits to the sensor has cracked. i'm not a heavy hitter, and i use quite light sticks (11As). i do love my rimshots though!
Is there any new news about the new rack when it will be available?
and what about the price?
Quote from: roel on August 02, 2010, 03:24:16 PM
Is there any new news about the new rack when it will be available?
and what about the price?
Hi roel
I haven't heard anything more news just yet. I will follow it up with 2box today, and see if i can get any extra info for you.
Thanks
Scott
Quote from: Scottie on August 05, 2010, 09:58:26 AM
Hi roel
I haven't heard anything more news just yet. I will follow it up with 2box today, and see if i can get any extra info for you.
Thanks
Scott
ok thank you Scott.
Is the kick the exact same as the previous one but without the backpanel or is the mounting and performance improved?
Quote from: hwasser on August 06, 2010, 08:57:25 AM
Is the kick the exact same as the previous one but without the backpanel or is the mounting and performance improved?
Its exact the same kick only the backplate with the 2box logo is gone,and the trigger is moved down.
i really hope that one day i will get a mkII kit. i paid 2000 Euros and i am still on the old hihat bracket. :'(
(actually i was told that i have a pre-serial demo kit)
Quote from: Danny on August 09, 2010, 09:02:48 AM
i really hope that one day i will get a mkII kit. i paid 2000 Euros and i am still on the old hihat bracket. :'(
(actually i was told that i have a pre-serial demo kit)
Hi Danny
Could you tell me who gave you the information that you had a pre-production kit?
Thanks
Scott
Another bar and clamp to secure the top of the kick would be great!
Why ?
My kick vibrates a fair bit and the sound of this is a bit annoying especially when I'm playing many hits on the kick. It'll be heard over the top of my headphones.
Quote from: RossC on August 11, 2010, 06:20:30 AM
My kick vibrates a fair bit and the sound of this is a bit annoying especially when I'm playing many hits on the kick. It'll be heard over the top of my headphones.
LoL, I realised that this moves the kit a bit forward when playing a lot, haha, after recording 3 songs to a thrashmetal band the drumkit had moved off the carpet ^^
Quote from: RossC on August 11, 2010, 06:20:30 AM
My kick vibrates a fair bit and the sound of this is a bit annoying especially when I'm playing many hits on the kick. It'll be heard over the top of my headphones.
i guess that's why they have done away with the metal front and foam padding and relocated the trigger on the new version of the hardware.
you can mod your own as in this thread:
http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php/topic,395.0.html
Quote from: fishmonkey on August 11, 2010, 08:37:47 AM
i guess that's why they have done away with the metal front and foam padding and relocated the trigger on the new version of the hardware.
you can mod your own as in this thread:
http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php/topic,395.0.html
I tried that but gave up. The bolts holding the back plate on were way too tight and I ended up damaging one of the bolts.
Quote from: Tristan on August 23, 2010, 06:15:29 PM
I tried that but gave up. The bolts holding the back plate on were way too tight and I ended up damaging one of the bolts.
I don't doing that because you don't have that 2box logo (light) anymore.
And I don't have trouble with double triggering after the new 1.10 update.
update new info from Bengt, the price of the new mk2 rackstand will be 250 euro. :-[
Actually, I can see why!
It is awesome, and incredibly sturdy.
I'm still setting it up so I will have no problems with transition between the 2Box and my DW-kit in the other end of my studio.
Glad I have the new stand, though...
Quote from: roel on August 23, 2010, 06:30:26 PM
update new info from Bengt, the price of the new mk2 rackstand will be 250 euro. :-[
That sounds expensive. Is this the price for the complete rack (with cymbal arms, clamps, tom holders) or is it the price for an upgrade of the old rack? I mean it should be enough to replace the 4 vertical bars and the clamps if you already have the old rack. One user did that with dixon tubes. I can't find the thread but i have 2 pictures on my harddisc. I guess this would "only" cost about 150 Euro.
Manfred
Quote from: Manfred on September 11, 2010, 06:13:58 PM
That sounds expensive. Is this the price for the complete rack (with cymbal arms, clamps, tom holders) or is it the price for an upgrade of the old rack? I mean it should be enough to replace the 4 vertical bars and the clamps if you already have the old rack. One user did that with dixon tubes. I can't find the thread but i have 2 pictures on my harddisc. I guess this would "only" cost about 150 Euro.
Manfred
You are right Manfred Its expensive,I don't know if it will be the price for an complete rack? maby we should ask Bengt again about that, and when it will be available.
So as the cymbals and toms...
Expensive?
http://www.musik-produktiv.de/shop/Artikelliste.aspx?seite=1&suchbegriff=Drum-Rack&filterKategorie=5%7cDrums%2fPercussion
Quote from: puttenvr on September 12, 2010, 08:56:14 AM
Expensive?
If 250 Euro is the price for an upgrade of the old rack it is expensive. If it is the price for a complete rack with tom and cymbal holders it is ok. Scottie said that early adopters will not be forgotten when the new rack is available. So lets wait and see.
Manfred
Quote from: Manfred on September 12, 2010, 10:59:24 AM
If 250 Euro is the price for an upgrade of the old rack it is expensive. If it is the price for a complete rack with tom and cymbal holders it is ok. Scottie said that early adopters will not be forgotten when the new rack is available. So lets wait and see.
Manfred
I hope that spare parts are in the shops soon lets wait...
For the whole rack its a good price. For just upgrading some parts, it should be significantly less. The new rack seems to be more stable and it looks nicer. A real improvement.
Quote from: boekhour on September 12, 2010, 06:52:48 PM
For the whole rack its a good price. For just upgrading some parts, it should be significantly less. The new rack seems to be more stable and it looks nicer. A real improvement.
sure it is, but now the question where can I get the mk2 rack?
Quote from: roel on September 12, 2010, 08:11:17 PM
sure it is, but now the question where can I get the mk2 rack?
anyone? Scottie?.....2box?
Oh gosh ! I'm very late on that but.... WAOW ! This new rack looks amazing ! Really hope first customers will be able to get it quickly !
Any idea Scottie ?
Quote from: mandubien on October 08, 2010, 04:07:53 PM
Oh gosh ! I'm very late on that but.... WAOW ! This new rack looks amazing ! Really hope first customers will be able to get it quickly !
Any idea Scottie ?
Yip I want it quickly but I don't know how???
I sent an email to 2box to ask. It dosn't cost anyting to try.
Beside the point :
I also tell them about french distributor which is quite bad !
For french users : vous devez vraiment beaucoup insister pour qu'on vous échange les pièces cassées au lieu de les réparer. Faites pression avec votre magasin.
I can understand WHY there must be a new rack, but I prefer the old one in terms of design. It's just different from all bold racks we already have. And I like that. Pitty some parts (snare holder) weren't strong enough and some other parts seem to be weak, but are strong enough.
If a ball is not round, it's not a ball :-\
Quote from: puttenvr on October 09, 2010, 06:57:55 AM
I can understand WHY there must be a new rack, but I prefer the old one in terms of design. It's just different from all bold racks we already have. And I like that. Pitty some parts (snare holder) weren't strong enough and some other parts seem to be weak, but are strong enough.
If a ball is not round, it's not a ball :-\
I agree with you puttenvr the old rack design is nice but the new one is just much better I think especially if you use more cymbals and toms.
Quote from: mandubien on October 08, 2010, 04:23:55 PM
I sent an email to 2box to ask. It dosn't cost anyting to try.
Beside the point :
I also tell them about french distributor which is quite bad !
For french users : vous devez vraiment beaucoup insister pour qu'on vous échange les pièces cassées au lieu de les réparer. Faites pression avec votre magasin.
That's why I bought it from Thomann, trading with the french distributor seems to be quite annoying.
Quote from: orly on October 09, 2010, 05:49:38 PM
That's why I bought it from Thomann, trading with the french distributor seems to be quite annoying.
But Thomann does not have 2box spare parts, where can I buy the new 2box mk2 rack stand? does anybody know it?
At this moment: nowhere
keep asking roel,
maybe one day........................... :rock:
still no new info about the mk2 rack upgrade on the 2box site...
and still no spare parts....
why?
Why? Because they are very good technicians, but very bad managers who don't have heard about the word "aftersales". Things are going to grown above your heads, 2box. Time to invest in good management. Otherwise you're going down in your own succes.
By the way, the new rack is now online on 2box official website.
Now I simply hope they're not forgetting us....
Quote from: mandubien on October 24, 2010, 01:36:33 PM
By the way, the new rack is now online on 2box official website.
Now I simply hope they're not forgetting us....
Hi mandubien
No 2box user's are being forgotten. This thread did slip my mind and i apologise for that, but i have been very very busy just lately, hence why i haven't posted as much on the forums as i would have liked to. I try and keep an eye on the forum as much as possible. Saying that there are a lot of very knowledgeable members on here, that are doing a great job helping other members out.
In the UK we have have new rack stands on order, and on Tuesday i will post a price for the upgrade as i believe that we have just got out final pricing through.
I will also get an ETA.
Hope this info helps to put your mind at ease a little ;)
Thanks
Scott
Quote from: Scottie on October 24, 2010, 08:25:40 PM
Hi mandubien
No 2box user's are being forgotten. This thread did slip my mind and i apologise for that, but i have been very very busy just lately, hence why i haven't posted as much on the forums as i would have liked to. I try and keep an eye on the forum as much as possible. Saying that there are a lot of very knowledgeable members on here, that are doing a great job helping other members out.
In the UK we have have new rack stands on order, and on Tuesday i will post a price for the upgrade as i believe that we have just got out final pricing through.
I will also get an ETA.
Hope this info helps to put your mind at ease a little ;)
Thanks
Scott
Hey Scottie ! Glad to have some news from you :)
It's great to hear we gonna have an update :-)))
Unfortunetly, I bought my kit in France, so I pretty sure it's gonna be a pain to get the new rack.
Do you think it will be possible for french users to upgrade from you ? I'd rather pay a bit more and be sure to get my new rack instead of waiting for ever and ever...
My 2box set comes from musicstore kohln (germany) and Iam from the Netherlands.
Also very interested in the new rackstand.
thanx for the info Scottie.
Hi everyone
Ok, I finally have a price for you with regards to the new Rack stand upgrade for MKI owners.
This price includes the rack stand (no brackets) and the separate snare basket.
Please also keep in mind that this price is only valid in the UK, and it may vary from country to country depending on the distributor, as we all have different factors to take in to consideration when we set a price.
So the price in the UK for the upgrade is..... £199 inc Vat.
If you are interested in this upgrade please let me know. I have had a lot of intrest via PM for this item, and we only have a limited quantity coming in.
Thank you all for your patience with this info.
Scott
I wish I was born in UK.....
I hope Algam (France) will do the same soon !
Quote from: Scottie on October 27, 2010, 09:26:28 AM
Hi everyone
Ok, I finally have a price for you with regards to the new Rack stand upgrade for MKI owners.
This price includes the rack stand (no brackets) and the separate snare basket.
Please also keep in mind that this price is only valid in the UK, and it may vary from country to country depending on the distributor, as we all have different factors to take in to consideration when we set a price.
So the price in the UK for the upgrade is..... £199 inc Vat.
If you are interested in this upgrade please let me know. I have had a lot of intrest via PM for this item, and we only have a limited quantity coming in.
Thank you all for your patience with this info.
Scott
yes Iam interested Iam from the Netherlands,how long is it gonna take till I get the rack?
Depends on when you pay ... :P
Quote from: puttenvr on October 30, 2010, 12:54:13 PM
Depends on when you pay ... :P
Where can I order it? So when must I pay :P
Quote from: Scottie on October 27, 2010, 09:26:28 AM
So the price in the UK for the upgrade is..... £199 inc Vat.
is not simply the difference between the new sales price of the kits?
What's in it for MKI owners?
Just got the new rack stand: It´s definately worth upgrading to. More sturdy and still lightweight, yummie!
Quote from: Remi on November 17, 2010, 03:29:57 PM
is not simply the difference between the new sales price of the kits?
What's in it for MKI owners?
Hi Remi
MKI owners are getting the new rack stand at a much better price. So you wouldn't ended up paying more money for your kit, as opposed to someone buying the MKII now. You will also have two rack stands instead of one.
Thanks
Scott
Quote from: rythm on November 17, 2010, 04:04:31 PM
Just got the new rack stand: It´s definately worth upgrading to. More sturdy and still lightweight, yummie!
you mean the mk2 upgrade or a new mk2 set?
Quote from: Scottie on November 17, 2010, 04:10:12 PM
Hi Remi
MKI owners are getting the new rack stand at a much better price. So you wouldn't ended up paying more money for your kit, as opposed to someone buying the MKII now. You will also have two rack stands instead of one.
Thanks
Scott
but when will it be available?
Quote from: roel on November 17, 2010, 04:19:09 PM
you mean the mk2 upgrade or a new mk2 set?
Just the rack stand, already got the mk1 :)
Quote from: rythm on November 17, 2010, 06:21:20 PM
Just the rack stand, already got the mk1 :)
yeaah I have the mk1 also but I want that mk2 rack where can I order it?
Quote from: roel on November 17, 2010, 08:30:27 PM
yeaah I have the mk1 also but I want that mk2 rack where can I order it?
Check with your local dealer or distributor in your country.
Quote from: rythm on November 17, 2010, 10:23:55 PM
Check with your local dealer or distributor in your country.
Iam from the Netherlands and I buyed my set at Musicstore in German.
Can anybody help me getting the MK2 rackstand?
No
Hyperactive is niet zo active.
Question is: who has spare parts at this moments?
Only the module seems to be available
No other parts
But X-mas is coming ....
Quote from: Remi on November 21, 2010, 08:14:07 PM
Hyperactive is niet zo active.
(klopt hier heb ik al geinformeerd voor de mk2 upgrade maar kon daar niet besteld worden).back to Eng.
Any news about the rack upgrade when it will be available???
HELLO 2BOX???? SCOTTIE??? where is my 2box mk2 rack upgrade?????????
I have bad news for french customers : Algam won't do anything to upgrade the rack for now. And I'm more or less sure that they won't do anything forever.
I'm afraid the best chance we have to upgrade our rack is to order it somewhere else in Europe...
Hi all,
Thomann currently has a B-stock kit which is the first verion. I'm thinking about getting it. I won't be using the kick or the hihat stand, since I'm happy with my current gear (Yamaha pedals, Roland KD-8's and heavy duty Pearl hihat stand) probably not even the snare stand. In that "what's new" pdf it said "Pads now have 5 bolts mounting system as opposed to previous 3 bolts" Where are those bolts located and does it make a difference? Has there been any upgrading of the rims? Someone said they were of plastic and not durable.
Cheers
/Krillo
Quote from: Krillo on January 13, 2011, 01:06:39 PM
Hi all,
Thomann currently has a B-stock kit which is the first verion. I'm thinking about getting it. I won't be using the kick or the hihat stand, since I'm happy with my current gear (Yamaha pedals, Roland KD-8's and heavy duty Pearl hihat stand) probably not even the snare stand. In that "what's new" pdf it said "Pads now have 5 bolts mounting system as opposed to previous 3 bolts" Where are those bolts located and does it make a difference? Has there been any upgrading of the rims? Someone said they were of plastic and not durable.
Cheers
/Krillo
Hello Krillo,
The material of the rims are still polycarbonate,and the rims are now holding with 5 o-rings you can see them at the side of the meshhead, (those litte black 0-rings that holds the rim).the mk1 had only 3 o-rings, and the new mk2 version has 5, take a look at your snaredrum. :patbat2box:
greetings,
Roel.
Quote from: roel on January 13, 2011, 04:48:57 PM
Hello Krillo,
The material of the rims are still polycarbonate,and the rims are now holding with 5 o-rings you can see them at the side of the meshhead, (those litte black 0-rings that holds the rim).the mk1 had only 3 o-rings, and the new mk2 version has 5, take a look at your snaredrum. :patbat2box:
greetings,
Roel.
Thankx Roel,
I think I'll pass on that B-stock MK 1 then.
/Krillo
mein damen und herren, ladies & gentlemen I have my new mk2 rack upgrade :rock:
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Quote from: edtc on January 18, 2011, 06:27:20 PM
:rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock:
say yeaaaaaah:
Where can I find the mk2 rackstand manuel..
Quote from: roel on January 18, 2011, 06:16:29 PM
mein damen und herren, ladies & gentlemen I have my new mk2 rack upgrade :rock:
Where did you bought it?
I guess here:
http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php/topic,619.0.html
Hi aye,
Just searching through the forum about the newer Mk 2 Rack stand.
Did we find out any more info about where to get one / trade in the old Mk 1 / how much etc?
x
Quote from: ChrisP9 on February 14, 2011, 10:41:58 PM
Hi aye,
Just searching through the forum about the newer Mk 2 Rack stand.
Did we find out any more info about where to get one / trade in the old Mk 1 / how much etc?
x
See this forum, there is a Mk2 Rackstand for sale (Ronniev sells it in the Netherlands see private for sale!)
Greetings,
Roel.
Quote from: roel on February 21, 2011, 06:07:45 PM
See this forum, there is a Mk2 Rackstand for sale (Ronniev sells it in the Netherlands see private for sale!)
Greetings,
Roel.
It is really a shame it has to go in this way! After months its still not available in regular shops?
Quote from: ChrisP9 on February 14, 2011, 10:41:58 PM
Hi aye,
Just searching through the forum about the newer Mk 2 Rack stand.
Did we find out any more info about where to get one / trade in the old Mk 1 / how much etc?
x
http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php/topic,406.60.html
AAAAAAhhhhhhh
My local dealer (here in Geneva, Switzerland) just told me that I can have a new rack stand upgrade for 480.- swiss francs!
It means 395€ ! It's really expensive!!!!
Scottie said 199£, it means 231€ .....
Why this difference of 164€??
Scottie!!! Help!!!!
Can anyone help me?