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Title: Recording 2Box audio together with video -> how to improve audio quality
Post by: mvdput on May 30, 2018, 04:02:10 PM
Hi all,

I want to make some recordings of the pieces I play including video but I don't want to do the editing part afterwards and syncing the video with the audio. So I tried the following setup to record audio and video at once, but I think the audio quality can be improved, but not sure how?

My setup:
2Box -> mono jack from line-out 1 to Steinberg Ur22 mk11 external audiocard -> USB cable to MAcbook pro

On my MAcbook Pro I use Quicktime record audio and video at once but I am not satisfied with the audio quality. The recorded drums seem to sound not as real as they do in my earplugs.

I am open to suggestions or other ways to record but I prefer to record audio and video at the same time. I thought of midi-recording but that would force me to do the syncing etc. afterwards.

Anyone has good ideas or own experiences with recording the audio from 2Box?
Title: Re: Recording 2Box audio together with video -> how to improve audio quality
Post by: Jman on May 31, 2018, 05:08:38 AM
It may not be the cheapest option ..... But I am really happy with the Zoom Q8. You can record Video with sound directly from your mixer or your sound module. High quality video and audio, It has 4 TRS or XLR inputs. Really easy that way, no synching needed, etc. https://www.kraftmusic.com/zoom-q8-handy-video-recorder.html
Title: Re: Recording 2Box audio together with video -> how to improve audio quality
Post by: mvdput on May 31, 2018, 03:05:48 PM
Thanks for the option JMan,

that does sound like a fair option.

For now I sort of solved the sound quality issue by using the Cubase LE software that came with the Steinberg UR22 mk11 usb soundcard. I record the audio output from my 2Box through the Steinberg into Cubase. I had to do some reading and tweaking but for now the sound seem to be ok.

For the video part I probably do end up with syncing audio and video and it seems that Cubase can handle video as well, although I did not yet tested the possibilities.
Title: Re: Recording 2Box audio together with video -> how to improve audio quality
Post by: fishmonkey on June 06, 2018, 10:15:47 AM
Quote from: mvdput on May 30, 2018, 04:02:10 PM
My setup:
2Box -> mono jack from line-out 1 to Steinberg Ur22 mk11 external audiocard -> USB cable to MAcbook pro

why are you only recording the left channel? it will sound a lot better if you record in stereo...
Title: Re: Recording 2Box audio together with video -> how to improve audio quality
Post by: mvdput on June 06, 2018, 11:50:40 AM
Quote from: fishmonkey on June 06, 2018, 10:15:47 AM
why are you only recording the left channel? it will sound a lot better if you record in stereo...

Good question, the Steinberg UR22-mkII says if you enable the High Impedance switch, you must use an unbalanced cable (=mono). I assumed the line-out of the 2Box was high impedance....
I did not try it with the high-impedance switch off and a balanced cable (stereo).  ::)
Title: Re: Recording 2Box audio together with video -> how to improve audio quality
Post by: fishmonkey on June 06, 2018, 12:27:09 PM
Quote from: mvdput on June 06, 2018, 11:50:40 AM
Good question, the Steinberg UR22-mkII says if you enable the High Impedance switch, you must use an unbalanced cable (=mono). I assumed the line-out of the 2Box was high impedance....
I did not try it with the high-impedance switch off and a balanced cable (stereo).  ::)

i think maybe you have things a little confused there.

firstly, a line-level signal is not high-impedance. the high-impedance setting is for plugging in electric guitars or basses. you definitely do not want to have the high-impedance switch engaged.

secondly, a balanced cable has three conductors, and can be used to send either a balanced mono signal, or an unbalanced stereo signal, depending on the equipment in use.

your audio interface has two mono inputs. use two cables, and connect the line outs 1 + 2 to inputs 1 + 2 on your interface. the cables can be either TS (unbalanced) or TRS (balanced).
Title: Re: Recording 2Box audio together with video -> how to improve audio quality
Post by: mvdput on June 07, 2018, 02:06:59 PM
Quote from: fishmonkey on June 06, 2018, 12:27:09 PM
i think maybe you have things a little confused there.

firstly, a line-level signal is not high-impedance. the high-impedance setting is for plugging in electric guitars or basses. you definitely do not want to have the high-impedance switch engaged.

secondly, a balanced cable has three conductors, and can be used to send either a balanced mono signal, or an unbalanced stereo signal, depending on the equipment in use.

your audio interface has two mono inputs. use two cables, and connect the line outs 1 + 2 to inputs 1 + 2 on your interface. the cables can be either TS (unbalanced) or TRS (balanced).

I indeed got confused with the line-level impedance.
I also confused the 1-2 OUT outputs for being balanced... I read the manual but it did not get clear that those were mono-outputs and 1-2 together can be used as stereo.
So I will reconnect my audio interface tonight because I also had the Line-In from 2Box routed to OUT 3-4 and connected OUT 3 to the Line In 1 connector on my audio interface to split the drums and song.
So fiding out the outputs are mono I am now short of an input to connect iPod and split the music from the drums.