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Title: 42Box Hi-Hat Conversion Kit for 2Box
Post by: ANGR77 on April 06, 2016, 11:33:10 PM
What do you think about this new hi-hat tool for 2Box and Roland FD-8 and VH-11?

https://youtu.be/eXP1m2b5-JE


Best Regards

ANGR77

Title: Re: 42Box Hi-Hat Conversion Kit for 2Box
Post by: edtc on April 07, 2016, 01:43:57 AM
that s a really clever product .... more Roland owners are going to be able to use 2box modules without restrictions ...

it s gonna be easyer to answear to the " can i use my roland kit with the module ? " .... :)

I remember me posting here 5 years ago to ask if anything like this was existing ...:)

Just one thing , imo , the form factor is a bit too big for what's inside ...  Half would still be ok i guess ...

Also the Jack plugs could be on the same side , it will be more compact , and handy if you place the box in a rack ...

The price could be also smaller ...:) 


In the video you say that the hi-hat  is faster ... are you sure ? i cant understand how it could be possible ....
Title: Re: 42Box Hi-Hat Conversion Kit for 2Box
Post by: ANGR77 on April 07, 2016, 02:16:44 PM
Hi!

Thanks for the feedback!

The 42Box is another solution for a well known problem - the Hi-hat. JMan has a great solution, if you want to hang on the hall effect technology. Mine is more for customers with existing Roland gears.

I don't know regarding the form factor - you have probably seen the freight dimensions. The 42box is about 10 cm x 5 cm x 4 cm in size... think about guitar effect pedal in size.

Plugs on the same side - let me see what we can do...(Could actually be that this is the case already)

Price - You get great value!! I promise!

Faster..could be hard to prove... but I would argue that it is more exact and have a better drum-feeling compare to the 2Box standard hi-hat.

Best Regards

Angr77 (www.42box.se)
Title: Re: 42Box Hi-Hat Conversion Kit for 2Box
Post by: Coda on April 09, 2016, 10:28:47 AM
So you are the developer? On the website 42box.se there's a single review, 5 stars, which you seem to have posted. Don't you think this is somewhat strange?
Title: Re: 42Box Hi-Hat Conversion Kit for 2Box
Post by: ANGR77 on April 09, 2016, 11:00:33 AM
Coda, I might have tested the review function...and forgot to take away the post...:-)

I think however as a drummer the product earns five stars...:-)

Best regards

Angr77
Title: Re: 42Box Hi-Hat Conversion Kit for 2Box
Post by: Coda on April 09, 2016, 11:28:12 AM
LOL good answer  8)
Title: Re: 42Box Hi-Hat Conversion Kit for 2Box
Post by: ANGR77 on April 18, 2016, 01:33:11 PM
(http://media.42box.se/2016/01/42Box_orange_fin_FD8_VH11.png)

Hi All!
Thanks for all interest in the 42Box Hi-hat conversion. (2Box users, e-drummers and dealers/retailers)

The 42Box site is up and running and the shipping costs and tax stuff have been updated to the customers favour! :-)

There is also an updated manual available with tricks and tips how to make your Roland Hi-hat, 42Box module and your 2Box Drumit Five module to run as smooth as possible!

http://www.42Box.se

Best Regards

ANGR77
Title: Re: 42Box Hi-Hat Conversion Kit for 2Box
Post by: digitalDrummer on April 19, 2016, 12:05:33 AM
I've had a review sample for a few days, preparing for a review in the May digitalDrummer. For now, suffice it to say the 42box does what it claims - and does so easily and reliably.
Well done, Anders.
Title: Re: 42Box Hi-Hat Conversion Kit for 2Box
Post by: BURNIN AMBITION on April 28, 2016, 05:38:14 PM
one question. do we have to mount a magnet underneath the foot plate? also, any ideas on a retail price?
Title: Re: 42Box Hi-Hat Conversion Kit for 2Box
Post by: Coda on April 28, 2016, 05:50:43 PM
It doesn't use the 2box HH system, so no. You just plug in the VH11 controller or FD8 (Im assuming FD7 will work too), and your cymbal.
Title: Re: 42Box Hi-Hat Conversion Kit for 2Box
Post by: BURNIN AMBITION on April 28, 2016, 05:58:21 PM
ahhh ok thank you. that clarifies it. i thought that i could use it but i cant. i have a cy-5 and i use a regular hh stand. so this isnt for me. cheers
Title: Re: 42Box Hi-Hat Conversion Kit for 2Box
Post by: ANGR77 on April 28, 2016, 06:23:53 PM
A great review of the 42Box hi-hat conversion kit can now be found in the may edition of digitalDRUMMER, Page 36.

Read it online for free at: http://en.calameo.com/read/00430531086758c58e5cb

Best Regards

ANGR77 / www.42Box.se
Title: Re: 42Box Hi-Hat Conversion Kit for 2Box
Post by: Coda on April 28, 2016, 06:51:52 PM
ahhh ok thank you. that clarifies it. i thought that i could use it but i cant. i have a cy-5 and i use a regular hh stand. so this isnt for me. cheers
What are you using for a HH controller? Jman's box or similar?
Title: Re: 42Box Hi-Hat Conversion Kit for 2Box
Post by: ANGR77 on May 19, 2016, 10:36:47 PM
Hi all!

For not confusing e-drummers of the fantastic 2box (and trademark) with the 42Box hi-hat conversion kit, I have therefor created a complete new trademark for my hi-hat conversion kit: Zourman Drums!

At the same time when releasing this new trademark, I am also releasing some mechanical improvements of the kit, a M6 mounting point and all connectors on the same side of the box!

Some another great news is that Jobeky Drums will start to distribute Zourman Drums HH conversion kits in the UK!

Welcome to visit http://www.zourman.com

Title: Re: 42Box Hi-Hat Conversion Kit for 2Box
Post by: Coda on May 20, 2016, 05:55:55 AM
That's great. I wish you every success.
Title: Re: 42Box Hi-Hat Conversion Kit for 2Box
Post by: teletom007 on May 20, 2016, 02:02:20 PM

That's great. I wish you every success.

me too, good job :rock:
Title: Re: 42Box Hi-Hat Conversion Kit for 2Box
Post by: ANGR77 on May 31, 2016, 07:56:22 PM
Hi again!

I just released a new manual for the Zourman Hi-hat conversion kit (formally 42Box) for FD-8/VH-11 with some small tweaking tips. You will get a 100% working Roland hi-hat implementation by just using the standard calibration scenario, but it is actually possible to tweak it even further to be able to reflect your play style even better. What I have seen in my tweaking tips is there seems to be a connection between the impedance on the bow sensor (which need to be cooled on Roland hi-hats with some resistance) and how easy or hard it is to create a foot chick. A too high cooler value (50k ohm) will make it very hard to create a foot chick(sample number 9) and a too low value will make the foot chick to misfire. About 20k ohm seems to be a sweet spot on my hi-hat solution. (There is a variable resistor on the HH kit)

On VH-11 there is also a mechanical way to transfer the hi-hat to be more open or closed by just routating the hi-hat pedal screw on the hi-hat top a quarter turn against open or closed. This will make the hi-hat to react in a smoother way.

There is also a nice way to adjust the samples if you think the especially hi-hat sound cuts too sharp by just adjusting the "hold" parameter on 2box DrumIT Five module.

For more HH tweaking hints....general or especially for the Zourman Hh Kit...have a look in the new manual:

http://media.zourman.com/2016/05/ZD_manual_FD8_VH11_13.pdf

Best Regards

Angr77/ Zourman.com

Title: Re: 42Box Hi-Hat Conversion Kit for 2Box
Post by: ANGR77 on July 01, 2016, 03:55:29 AM
Hi!

You might getting totally exhausted on the Zourman Hi-hat conversion kit...I just want to mention that you can now find the "kit" at the following dealers:

UK:
www.jobekydrums.co.uk

US:
www.electronicdrumcenter.com

Best Regards

Angr77/ Zourman.com
Title: Re: 42Box Hi-Hat Conversion Kit for 2Box
Post by: ANGR77 on July 07, 2016, 09:07:56 PM
Hi!

I am celebrating today...I am getting 50th years old....so I have a great discount on the Zourman Hihat Conversion kit. Have a look at Zourman.com!

Best Regards

Angr77/Zourman.com

Title: Re: 42Box Hi-Hat Conversion Kit for 2Box
Post by: digitalDrummer on July 08, 2016, 03:56:41 AM
Imagine the discount when the box turns 50! Happy birthday, Anders.
Title: Re: 42Box Hi-Hat Conversion Kit for 2Box
Post by: puttenvr on July 08, 2016, 05:13:42 AM
In the store the product is listed as 109 euros
When you push the check out button the price raises to 131
Excl shipping
Do we pay our own birthday present ?   ;D
Or is it Vat ?
Title: Re: 42Box Hi-Hat Conversion Kit for 2Box
Post by: ANGR77 on July 08, 2016, 06:11:37 AM
True. I am afraid it is VAT.  :(

Best regards

Angr77 / Zourman.com
Title: Re: 42Box Hi-Hat Conversion Kit for 2Box
Post by: ANGR77 on July 31, 2016, 08:50:05 PM
A new version of the manual for Zourman Drums Hihat Conversion Kit can now be found on Zourman.com. (Support section)

I have now officially added support for FD-7 and the new FD-9. More hi hats will soon follow.
Mr "De...Lo" thought my 2box screenshots looked strange and that one of tweaking tip was unclear...so I have fixed it and redrawn the screenshots to now be top notch! :-)

Have a look at:
http://www.zourman.com (http://www.zourman.com)

Best Regards

Angr77 / Zourman Drums Hihat conversion kit for Roland FD-7, 8 and 9 plus VH-11.
Title: Re: 42Box Hi-Hat Conversion Kit for 2Box
Post by: ANGR77 on September 23, 2016, 10:09:12 PM
Friday evening... :D Production times!

(http://media.zourman.com/2016/09/IMG_0671-e1474695155528.jpg)


Have a nice weekend!
Title: Re: 42Box Hi-Hat Conversion Kit for 2Box
Post by: ANGR77 on October 15, 2016, 12:36:30 PM
Zourman Drums and our Roland hi-hat conversion kit for 2box have been nominated in digitalDrummer Readers Choice 2016. A fantastic recognition!

So 2box users and supporters of Zourman Drums, please vote for us and our solutions online at https://digitaldrummer.typeform.com/to/Iz1gLL (https://digitaldrummer.typeform.com/to/Iz1gLL)  - and we will hopefully increase our chances to win this prestige award!

Best Regards

Anders / www.zourman.com
Title: Re: 42Box Hi-Hat Conversion Kit for 2Box
Post by: ANGR77 on November 20, 2016, 08:35:10 PM
(http://media.zourman.com/2016/11/VH-12-241x300.png)
Zourman Drums hihat conversion kit adds support for Roland VH-12!

A new model of the Zourman Drums Hi-hat Conversion module for 2box has just been launched – now including native support for the Roland VH-12 hi-hat.

Read more at:
http://zourman.com/product/zourman-drums-hi-hat-conversion-kit-for-vh-12/

Best Regards

ANGR77 / Zourman.com
Title: Re: 42Box Hi-Hat Conversion Kit for 2Box
Post by: ANGR77 on December 20, 2016, 10:44:46 PM
(http://media.zourman.com/2016/12/ZD_ZMAS4-300x199.jpg)

Wishing you all a merry Christmas and a happy New Year and some free time behind the drums!

Anders Gronlund / Zourman.com
Title: Re: 42Box Hi-Hat Conversion Kit for 2Box
Post by: ANGR77 on December 31, 2016, 04:06:48 PM
(http://media.zourman.com/2016/11/ZD_VH12-241x300.png)

Happy New Year to everybody at the 2box forum!

I wonder how next year will look like with all upcoming launches! :-) Will there be any surprises - probably!

Don't forget to vote in digitalDrummers Readers Choice 2016. https://digitaldrummer.typeform.com/to/Iz1gLL

Hard to find anything to vote for - please place your vote for Zourman Drums and our Roland Conversion Modules for 2box!

There are also some other great solutions nominated like the VersaTrigger Wireless trigger - a real game changer!

So place your vote!

Best Regards

ANGR77 / www.zourman.com
Title: Re: 42Box Hi-Hat Conversion Kit for 2Box
Post by: ANGR77 on March 12, 2017, 06:21:45 PM
(http://media.zourman.com/2017/03/ZD_VH11_hhFP_Web.png)

Zourman Drums introduces models with Virtual Clutch functionality.
The new added virtual clutch models includes support for Roland Fd-X, VH-11 and VH-12 and 2box.

Virtual Clutch is a system where the hi-hat pedal position variable can be set in advance between open/closed. A perfect solution for drummers with double kicks who sometimes need the ability to set the hi-hat in to near closed position. A switch on the front panel will set the Zourman hi-hat module in virtual clutch mode. A potentiometer adjust the open/closed position. One feature is that the pedal will still work as usual when in virtual clutch mode...but will go from the fixed position to closed when pressing down the hi-hat pedal.

Interested? Have a look on http://Www.zourman.com

Best regards

Anders / Zourman.com
Title: Re: 42Box Hi-Hat Conversion Kit for 2Box
Post by: edtc on March 13, 2017, 01:43:25 PM
hi Anders

Very usefull option !   

If i can give you an advice , it could be cool to add a jack so one can plug a simple switch pedal to activate/deactivate the V-clutch . With a led on the box to be able to see the status .

Have a nice day
Title: Re: 42Box Hi-Hat Conversion Kit for 2Box
Post by: ANGR77 on March 14, 2017, 08:55:37 PM
Thanks EDTC!

I really like suggestions from users! Good advice! We will see what we can do! :-)

However, I am a bit afraid to add more electronics like LEDs etc on the hi-hat input because it could interfere with the hi-hat functionality. The hi-hat is a bit special how it really works from a electronic standpoint. :-)

More ideas are welcome!


Best regards

Anders / Zourman.com

Title: Re: 42Box Hi-Hat Conversion Kit for 2Box
Post by: ANGR77 on May 18, 2017, 10:14:08 PM
(http://media.zourman.com/2017/05/ZD_VH13.png)

For you ones that owns a Roland VH-13 hi-hat...I have now launched a VH-13 version of the Zourman Drums Hi-hat Conversion Module for 2Box DrumIt Five.

The VH-13 impedance range actually differs quite alot from the VH-11 and VH-12 versions - so it needed some real hard testing to fine tune the electronics to make it perfect! I think I succeeded!

Have a look at:
http://zourman.com/product/zourman-drums-hi-hat-conversion-kit-for-vh-13/

Best Regards

Anders Gronlund / Zourman.com