There's a post on farce book from 2box saying: "I spy with my little eye something ending with Three....... ‪#‎Musikmesse2015"
Maybe they are hinting at the 2box MKThree?
it's strange that no one has even reported about this, maybe some swedish reporter has but I have found no further info on this...
Saw one picture, they show the Drumit Three in Frankfurt! But no news either.
News, it is a limited edition from our module. More interesting is that this video show new cymbals!
http://youtu.be/X7g4hLLYhjA
The new module is a reduced featured version on drumit5 less knobs to mess with, less output ootions, but same interal kit sounds . Interesting looking cymbals look similar to roland with 80 percent rubber pad and a 20percent plasticy bit.
It is a serious attempt to take a slice of the pie in the midrange segment and this can make Roland very nervous. I like the approach 2Box has taken.
Bengt looks much younger on that video :-)
BLAM! Take that NFUZD and Roland! ;)
Quote from: puttenvr on April 16, 2015, 05:31:10 PM
Bengt looks much younger on that video :-)
yeah those modern digital cameras will do that ;)
Quote from: fulrmr on April 16, 2015, 05:32:11 PM
BLAM! Take that NFUZD and Roland! ;)
Hehehe.... :D 8)
EDIT Okay, so here are some more thoughts...
I'm sure you all know by now (I must have mentioned this already half a dozen times at least...) a DrumIt-5 module is *roughly* in the same price-bracket as the TD-15 module was.
(I can't check Thomann-prices anymore... - which would have given me a fair, comparable level for the following words...)
I *suppose* that Roland's newly introduced TD-25 module will be priced higher than the TD-15 (based on past observations; ...which would make the DrumIt-5 *even more* appealing). 2box' cut-down DrumIt-Three offering in in turn will be aiming squarely at Roland's TD-11 module, while the TD-25 will cover a spot in the mid-range segment.
...or at least what Roland *thinks* is the 'mid-range' segment...
(I don't have to tell you fine folks that a state-of-the-art, top-of-the-line, open-ended module can be had at a mid-range price-point!) ;)
Now...
as Roland is going higher and 2box is going lower, price-wise:
If they will even go lower than their ~950â,¬ flagship (!) module (without sacrificing their sound-quality which made them popular to begin with), I don't see why anyone would have the desire to spend their hard-earned money on a (perceived) lower-midrange TD-11.
HTH
(http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af122/danoh_forum/emoticons/danoh_cute_little_hello_sun_zps01c542bc.gif)
You can see on this video that the new Drumit Three kit has a stationary HH cymbal mounted to the rack, plus an electronic HH pedal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItuZwBjtIts
Only guessing on this but I would guess you will be able to use it with the new pedal and stationary cymbal, or with the original moving 2Box hat.
maybe that new hihat operates like your mod does Jman.
Quote from: jeff42 on April 17, 2015, 12:00:25 AM
maybe that new hihat operates like your mod does Jman.
no info on the HH system yet, so we'll have to see. Hopefully it is compatible with the current 2Box HH system. If it is, my conversion box will work with the Drumit Three. J
Quote from: Dänoh on April 16, 2015, 06:42:15 PM
I *suppose* that Roland's newly introduced TD-25 module will be priced higher than the TD-15 (based on past observations; ...
Now...
as Roland is going higher
HTH
(http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af122/danoh_forum/emoticons/danoh_cute_little_hello_sun_zps01c542bc.gif)
-Actually Td-25K is the same price as Td-15K, but they give the VH-11 HIHAT and the PDX100 Snare included which was not the case before, basically it's a lower price for the kits compare to before.
-The TD-25KV, gains an extra cymbal and mount compare to Td-15KV for the same price.
But 2box module is much more convenient for acoustic real drum sound, VST sound are the standard on the market, Roland still doing their closed 2/3 velocity switch sound with synth editing with drum term name based on wav, until they don't change road, they have hit a wall.
Quote from: Jman on April 16, 2015, 09:09:57 PM
You can see on this video that the new Drumit Three kit has a stationary HH cymbal mounted to the rack, plus an electronic HH pedal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItuZwBjtIts
Only guessing on this but I would guess you will be able to use it with the new pedal and stationary cymbal, or with the original moving 2Box hat.
I might be interested on this module, Did you think my current pad and cymbal will works on this module?
My pad are DIY same as TD30 pad config, cone from quarts for head and under side below for the rim with Fat Diados Cake Pan, my Cymbal are all Roland CY and HIHAT Roland VH-11. I will probably sell my TD-15 anyway..
Quote from: chris k on April 17, 2015, 03:26:26 AM
I might be interested on this module, Did you think my current pad and cymbal will works on this module?
My pad are DIY same as TD30 pad config, cone from quarts for head and under side below for the rim with Fat Diados Cake Pan, my Cymbal are all Roland CY and HIHAT Roland VH-11. I will probably sell my TD-15 anyway..
My educated guess is that you would be fine. At least that is the case with changing over from Roland to 2Box Drumit Five.... with the exception that you might need one of my conversion boxes for using the VH-11 with the 2Box module. http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php/topic,1890.0.html
But we will prolly get some more detailed info on any differences of the Drumit Three in the next few days.
Regarding the hihat I expect them to have moved the hall sensor into the pedal. I have some more ideas but first breakfast. Hint: Drumit3 implies Drumit6.
Quote from: Murgen on April 17, 2015, 06:44:53 AM
Hint: Drumit3 implies Drumit6.
Really? I must have missed that lesson in logic!
Quote from: digitalDrummer on April 17, 2015, 07:45:14 AM
Really? I must have missed that lesson in logic!
Mark my words ... The bet is a bottle of Belgium beer.
Thomas talks briefly about the Drumit Three on this video after talking about the Trigit triggers. I understood a couple words ..... like Thomas, 2Box, trigger, kick trigger, loops :) http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=2box%20musikmesse%202015&qs=n&form=QBVR&pq=2box%20musikmesse%202015&sc=0-0&sp=-1&sk=#view=detail&mid=F1F5415F9A44319A246CF1F5415F9A44319A246C
Actually about the triggers he says that they will be available as a set of 4 stereo triggers for toms and snare and 1 kick trigger. But also single pieces will be available. They are dulled silver to keep them kind of stealthy. And the triggers are fixed to the rim only and do not touch the shell of the drum to avoid scratches.
About the drumit3 he just says that it is a reduced version of the drumit5 with less outputs and less buttons and dials. But it is the same sound engine and the 2Box editor also works with the drumit3. Sounds can be transferred to the drumit3 via USB just like to the drumit5.
Regards, Manfred
Quote from: Jman on April 16, 2015, 09:09:57 PM
You can see on this video that the new Drumit Three kit has a stationary HH cymbal mounted to the rack
Actually, I hope they'll release this as a separate part... I could imagine this to be useful (even if you've got the normal, moving 2box hat already) as an additional X-hat! ;)
Quote from: Murgen on April 17, 2015, 08:22:17 AM
Mark my words ... The bet is a bottle of Belgium beer.
*hiccup* (http://www.musiker-board.de/styles/default/images/smilies/stars.gif) Here's to you, buddy! Cheers!!! (http://www.musiker-board.de/styles/default/images/smilies/prost.gif)
Quote from: chris k on April 17, 2015, 03:17:21 AM
-Actually Td-25K is the same price as Td-15K, but they give the VH-11 HIHAT and the PDX100 Snare
Take a closer look at my post.
If you look closely you'll notice that I was referring (purposely) to *modules only* ! ;) :)
By the way:
I haven't read anything about the internal memory capacity so far...
They've mentioned "same sound-engine" in the video - but I'm still curious to know how big it might will be, compared to the 'big one'. ...hope it's ready for the card-mod at the very least!
HTH
Well, I got a little more info on the Drumit Three:
Yes it will work with original hihat too.
The cymbal works exactly as the 2box. 4 zones â€" bell, bow, edge and mute.
In general all is the same as the DI5 but with some limitations in the user interface. Less buttons and only one rotary dial.
The open sound features is still the same.
As far as Headphone outs being assigned as direct outs. That is not a hardware restriction so it could be possible with an OS update if they decide.
So, that is what I have so far. J
Quote from: Jman on April 18, 2015, 03:23:35 PM
Well, I got a little more info on the Drumit Three:
Yes it will work with original hihat too.
The cymbal works exactly as the 2box. 4 zones â€" bell, bow, edge and mute.
In general all is the same as the DI5 but with some limitations in the user interface. Less buttons and only one rotary dial.
The open sound features is still the same.
As far as Headphone outs being assigned as direct outs. That is not a hardware restriction so it could be possible with an OS update if they decide.
So, that is what I have so far. J
Than what is under the hood becomes more interesting.
*clicks the karma-button for Jman*
Thanks, Jerry! :rock:
...you surely know that this all is very appreciated! :)
Looking forward to see whether you'll get your hands on one... you could prolly discard the idea of buying an Alesis SampleRack - I'd guess the DI-3 would might handle all your add-on percussion needs just fine! ;)
"DeeThree" for the win! 8)
Quote from: Murgen on April 18, 2015, 04:28:49 PM
Than what is under the hood becomes more interesting.
Well, you know me...... when this thing is ready and I'm able to get my hands on it ...... ummmm ..... 1st thing I do when looking at a car is "pop the hood" ;)
Quote from: Dänoh on April 18, 2015, 04:33:45 PM
*clicks the karma-button for Jman*
Thanks, Jerry! :rock:
...you surely know that this all is very appreciated! :)
Looking forward to see whether you'll get your hands on one... you could prolly discard the idea of buying an Alesis SampleRack - I'd guess the DI-3 would might handle all your add-on percussion needs just fine! ;)
"DeeThree" for the win! 8)
yup I abandoned any Alesis thoughts when I saw that it wasn't in the same class long ago. D3 add on for me!
Quote from: Jman on April 18, 2015, 04:39:57 PM
yup I abandoned any Alesis thoughts when I saw that it wasn't in the same class long ago. D3 add on for me!
I thought you might would; good to hear! :)
Quote from: Jman on April 18, 2015, 04:38:19 PM
...... ummmm ..... 1st thing I do when looking at a car is "pop the hood" ;)
Awesome!
;D ...tell us where they'd sticked that piezo! ;D
My hunch is that they shelf out the di5 electronic design in a cheaper version to get more market share and use the turnover to start working on di6. So, I expect nothing new under that hood.
However, if you find a brand new design with many empty spots on the pcb the di6 is closer than we expected.
Both ways, I like the way 2Box stole the show with this move. Both Roland and NFUZD must have had several bad nights.
Quote from: Murgen on April 18, 2015, 04:57:50 PM
My hunch is that they shelf out the di5 electronic design in a cheaper version to get more market share and use the turnover to start working on di6. So, I expect nothing new under that hood.
However, if you find a brand new design with many empty spots on the pcb the di6 is closer than we expected.
Both ways, I like the way 2Box stole the show with this move. Both Roland and NFUZD must have had several bad nights.
Right now we are limited to just a couple sources for examining the module. But .... from those two sources and a comparison with the current D5 here is what I see: First I have to say I do love that new sleek look to the module case, and the color combo ...... sexy!
The back of the modules are identical with the exception of 2 less output jacks 5 and 6. The Face of the module:
The right side LCD looks identical as well as all the buttons and knobs except 2 of the knobs beneath the LCD have been eliminated. The face left of the LCD. The individual instrument buttons are eliminated. But the Chn up, Trig, and Chn down buttons correspond to where the Tom 2, Tom 3, and Tom 4 buttons were on the Drumit Five .....
So, it looks like the guts of the Drumit Five got a makeover with several buttons/knobs eliminated from the PCB and the Out 5 and 6 jacks eliminated. See this pic:
(http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/JmanWord/image_27264%20Drumit%20Three%20-%20Copy_zpsii3tmxme.jpg) (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/JmanWord/media/image_27264%20Drumit%20Three%20-%20Copy_zpsii3tmxme.jpg.html)
And a pic of our Drumit Five for reference:
(http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/JmanWord/Drumit%20Five_zpsw1zmjnq3.jpg) (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/JmanWord/media/Drumit%20Five_zpsw1zmjnq3.jpg.html)
Quote from: Jman on April 17, 2015, 04:28:59 AM
My educated guess is that you would be fine. At least that is the case with changing over from Roland to 2Box Drumit Five.... with the exception that you might need one of my conversion boxes for using the VH-11 with the 2Box module. http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php/topic,1890.0.html
But we will prolly get some more detailed info on any differences of the Drumit Three in the next few days.
Ok, and the Roland Vh-12 VH- 13 can works or need the mod? How about the Alesis Pro X hiihat HIHAT can works?
Quote from: chris k on April 21, 2015, 06:39:09 PM
Ok, and the Roland Vh-12 VH- 13 can works or need the mod? How about the Alesis Pro X hiihat HIHAT can works?
VH-11, 12, 13 .... would all work, but you would need my 2Box HH stand conversion kit: http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php/topic,1890.0.html
The Alesis Pro X HH cymbal would also work if used with my 2Box HH stand conversion kit. The one shortcoming of the Alesis Pro X hat is the fact it is a single zone HH cymbal. So it will work but you would not have dual zone.
Quote from: Jman on April 21, 2015, 08:53:09 PM
VH-11, 12, 13 .... would all work, but you would need my 2Box HH stand conversion kit: http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php/topic,1890.0.html
The Alesis Pro X HH cymbal would also work if used with my 2Box HH stand conversion kit. The one shortcoming of the Alesis Pro X hat is the fact it is a single zone HH cymbal. So it will work but you would not have dual zone.
Perfect, now just remain if the card mod will works with Drumit 3
Quote from: chris k on April 22, 2015, 12:21:20 AM
Perfect, now just remain if the card mod will works with Drumit 3
I am pretty confident about that. I have a feeling the PCB will have a very similar layout and it will be a question of how easily the ribbon cable can be installed without modifying the case. Shame on me, talking about doing a mod on a product that isn't even available yet...... ;D
Quote from: Jman on April 22, 2015, 01:18:10 AM
I am pretty confident about that. I have a feeling the PCB will have a very similar layout and it will be a question of how easily the ribbon cable can be installed without modifying the case. Shame on me, talking about doing a mod on a product that isn't even available yet...... ;D
Hey Jman, you're just stating what most of us are thinking. Surely 2box realize the 32GB SD expansion is a potential deal maker/breaker, and should allow for SD extender ribbon access (without voiding the warranty).
I'd also like the Drumit3 to have a bigger control knob as there's enough clearance for it.
They've prob'ly learnt from Apple, etc that some of us prefer other colors and designed the module to be easily reskinned below the panel.
Regarding the 32GB mod...2Box have had problems in the past to source the right working SD cards...just as we "mods"...the fear right now is if 2Box is mowing away completely from SD cards in the Three design and replace the memory design with a conventional fixed memory.
Just a thought...I am hoping I am wrong. :-)
Angr77
Quote from: ANGR77 on April 22, 2015, 05:57:36 AM
Regarding the 32GB mod...2Box have had problems in the past to source the right working SD cards...just as we "mods"...the fear right now is if 2Box is mowing away completely from SD cards in the Three design and replace the memory design with a conventional fixed memory.
Just a thought...I am hoping I am wrong. :-)
Angr77
My thoughts exactly. Flash is cheap nowadays. However, if it is what they say it is it will be an SD. And Drumit6 will have the new design with flash or ssd.
Quote from: chris k on April 21, 2015, 06:39:09 PM
Ok, and the Roland Vh-12 VH- 13 can works or need the mod? How about the Alesis Pro X hiihat HIHAT can works?
All of these will need the controller box mod but the top portion of these them can be used as the trigger pad itself.
One of the biggest innovations with the 2Box module is the way the dsnds will load and play directly from an SD card without latency. The card specs are critical, but with the right card no problem. Since it is possible to screw that up with the wrong card or accessing the module via USB with a card larger than 4GB I'm pretty sure all will remain the same on the new module and no external card slot ..... I would not expect that to change in the Drumit Three. Solid State Drives are still more expensive and I don't know that at this point it would be feasible to accomplish even what the 2Box is doing already on the SD cards .... So, this might be a direction in the future, I'm sure we won't be seeing that in the next 2Box module.
I think it is going to be a very cool new thing though ...... a very reasonably priced module with the same sound quality and input capability as the Drumit Five .... a price range that will just blow anything in that range away ....... and as many of us already know .... sound quality wise .... it will blow away modules even at double or triple the price. BOOYAH! :patbat2box:
My avatar is a prophetic one; Orange is the new Black. :rock:
Quote from: Jman on April 22, 2015, 01:18:10 AM
I am pretty confident about that. I have a feeling the PCB will have a very similar layout and it will be a question of how easily the ribbon cable can be installed without modifying the case. Shame on me, talking about doing a mod on a product that isn't even available yet...... ;D
for 2box Alesis pad\cymbal and Yamaha pad and cymbal works?
Quote from: chris k on March 02, 2016, 04:37:29 AM
for 2box Alesis pad\cymbal and Yamaha pad and cymbal works?
exept the hihat that is specific to 2BOX , any pad or cymbal will work ... Rubber pads with Switch for the RIM ( PD7 PD8 ... )will work just for the head sound ...
Many topics about that in the forum ... and there is a search button somewhere ...
here s one ...
http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php/topic,2766.msg23203.html#msg23203