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2Box Drumit 5 Forum => DrumIt 5 Hardware => Topic started by: Dr.Skins on May 23, 2013, 08:01:33 AM

Title: extreme drums internal acoustic drum triggers with the 2box module?
Post by: Dr.Skins on May 23, 2013, 08:01:33 AM
Hello was wondering if anyone tried extreme drums internal acoustic drum triggers with the 2box module? they look pretty good and they aren't center mounted, was thinking they might be a good match for the 2box module because 2box pads don't have center mounted triggers either. heres a link to the site


http://www.extremedrums.com/4436.html
Title: Re: extreme drums internal acoustic drum triggers with the 2box module?
Post by: HumpieDrum on May 23, 2013, 05:30:04 PM
Hi Dr. Skins,
I use Aquarian inhead on my snare. Works great.!
It is a real head! If you go for silent you can go for onhead.


maybe its an option for you.

http://www.alternatemode.com/inhead.shtml

Title: Re: extreme drums internal acoustic drum triggers with the 2box module?
Post by: digitalDrummer on May 24, 2013, 03:08:59 AM
Quote from: Dr.Skins on May 23, 2013, 08:01:33 AM
Hello was wondering if anyone tried extreme drums internal acoustic drum triggers with the 2box module? they look pretty good and they aren't center mounted, was thinking they might be a good match for the 2box module because 2box pads don't have center mounted triggers either. heres a link to the site


http://www.extremedrums.com/4436.html
Reviewed in digitalDrummer - yes, it works fine with 2box
Title: Re: extreme drums internal acoustic drum triggers with the 2box module?
Post by: Dr.Skins on May 24, 2013, 03:23:49 AM
Thanks for the info the Aquarian onHEAD PED looks like it's made of rubber I Prefer the mesh heads they seem more realistic to me. I might just go with a jobeky kit then again the customs fees are outrageous, so maybe i'll buy a cheap acoustic kit on ebay then rig it with the extreme triggers. I'll have to figure out whats the better value.
Title: Re: extreme drums internal acoustic drum triggers with the 2box module?
Post by: digitalDrummer on May 24, 2013, 07:45:00 AM
Extreme are not the only triggers options. check out our reviews of internal and external triggers and you'll see there are dozens of choices from $10 to $200-plus.
You'll find all the back issues here: http://digitaldrummermag.com/BACK_ISSUES.html
Title: Re: extreme drums internal acoustic drum triggers with the 2box module?
Post by: edtc on May 24, 2013, 05:07:43 PM
be carefull to buy some  2 ply meshheads , it  very important ....

extreme triggers are extremely simple to DIY ... and IMO extremely too expensive for what they are ...!

maybe if you have some time you could do them easily yourself for about 5 dollar each (  16 times less than their price !!!) ...  with the money you save , you could even buy a 2 box HIHAT and some cheap dual zone cymbals , a hihat stand and some sticks ;) ....

And if you dont want to DIY , take a look at those ... http://www.wronka-drums.de/shop/easytrigger/easytrigger/easytrigger-snare-tom.php

they cost 33 euro when an extreme trigger costs 80 dollars ... and they look much better and a lot more reliable ....

this is what a extreme dual trigger looks like   ...
(http://www.extremedrums.com/mediac/400_0/media/SDC10610.JPG)

extremely ugly for something sold 80 bucks !!!!......and now this


(http://www.wronka-drums.de/shop/images/easytriggermkii130501.jpg)

for half the price , and also , they have the sensor on top of the foam , just like 2box pads ... ;)

I dont work for wronka ... and wont buy any of those because i do my own sensors  , but i think they are extremely well done and well priced ....

have a nice day

Title: Re: extreme drums internal acoustic drum triggers with the 2box module?
Post by: Dr.Skins on May 24, 2013, 10:00:22 PM
Hi and thank you for the tip the wronka looks excellent just wish they had the details about the product in english, is it a dual trigger? can it be used as a kick trigger? does it come with a external input jack?and how much for customs fees when it's deliveredto the usa?
Title: Re: extreme drums internal acoustic drum triggers with the 2box module?
Post by: edtc on May 24, 2013, 10:36:07 PM
Quote from: Dr.Skins on May 24, 2013, 10:00:22 PM
Hi and thank you for the tip the wronka looks excellent just wish they had the details about the product in english, is it a dual trigger? can it be used as a kick trigger? does it come with a external input jack?and how much for customs fees when it's deliveredto the usa?

they are dual triggers , and can be used for kick drum ... 

"does it come with a external input jack? "..........i dont know what you mean ...

if you send them an email in english , i guess they will answear you in english too ... 

E-Mail: info@wronka-drums.de

i saw they also sell a A toE kit wuth 2BOX module , hh and cymbals ...

(http://www.wronka-drums.de/shop/images/triggerset_2box_001.jpg)

http://www.wronka-drums.de/shop/sets/2box/a-zu-e-drum.php
Title: Re: extreme drums internal acoustic drum triggers with the 2box module?
Post by: Dr.Skins on May 24, 2013, 11:12:39 PM
what I meant by external input jack is can I plug into the trigger from the outside of the drum shell? I have a module and hat that i'm using with some roland and alexis pads just don't care for the toy sizes.
Title: Re: extreme drums internal acoustic drum triggers with the 2box module?
Post by: edtc on May 24, 2013, 11:53:06 PM
you will need some of these : http://www.thomann.de/fr/neutrik_nys_221.htm

(http://images4.thomann.de/pics/prod/247393.jpg)

and some stereo cable ... you can use a male jack plug , or simply connect the cable to the pins of the sensor's female jack ....
Title: Re: extreme drums internal acoustic drum triggers with the 2box module?
Post by: edtc on May 24, 2013, 11:57:27 PM
here you can find some nice pics , and english infos ...

http://vdrums.com/forum/showthread.php?71802-Wronka-internal-lug-mounted-triggers-Digital-Drummer/page4

here you can see they are dual triggers ...

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n599/ohlarikd/V-Drum%20Posts/Wronka_1_zps109b9270.jpg)
Title: Re: extreme drums internal acoustic drum triggers with the 2box module?
Post by: edtc on May 25, 2013, 12:20:36 AM

AND HERE IS AN ENGLISH LINK TO THEIR SHOP / http://wronka-drums.jimdo.com/shop/
Title: Re: extreme drums internal acoustic drum triggers with the 2box module?
Post by: Dr.Skins on May 25, 2013, 04:39:06 AM
Cool so I see they have an external jack solution but it's the same price as the trigger which brings it a little over the price of the extreme drum triggers plus the customs fees uhg lol. They do look better than the extremes though maybe I'll just cut a hole in the tom and snare bottom heads and directly plug my cables in and just have a hole in the front kick head.First I need to get a really cheap acoustic set, ddrum makes some cheap drums that I won't feel bad about drilling lol.
Title: Re: extreme drums internal acoustic drum triggers with the 2box module?
Post by: digitalDrummer on May 25, 2013, 09:54:52 PM
What about ddrum redshots? Cheap, very effective and easy to install.
Title: Re: extreme drums internal acoustic drum triggers with the 2box module?
Post by: Dr.Skins on May 26, 2013, 12:20:34 AM
hmmm but would that be an upgrade in triggering quality compared to the pads I have now?
Title: Re: extreme drums internal acoustic drum triggers with the 2box module?
Post by: digitalDrummer on May 26, 2013, 08:34:10 AM
Y0u haven't actually mentioned what you are currently using.
Title: Re: extreme drums internal acoustic drum triggers with the 2box module?
Post by: Dr.Skins on May 26, 2013, 09:35:29 AM
2 roland pd-100's 1 pd-120 as a snare and 2 12"alesis pads that have been converted to mesh with the 682 conversion and an 8"alesis kick with the same conversion.
Title: Re: extreme drums internal acoustic drum triggers with the 2box module?
Post by: Jman on May 26, 2013, 08:38:44 PM
Quote from: Dr.Skins on May 26, 2013, 09:35:29 AM
2 roland pd-100's 1 pd-120 as a snare and 2 12"alesis pads that have been converted to mesh with the 682 conversion and an 8"alesis kick with the same conversion.
With some trigger parameter adjustments you should be able to get pretty good performance from what you have IMO.
Do you have a good knowledge of adjusting trigger parameters? That is a critical part of using anything other than stock pads with a drum module, be it 2Box or Roland, Alesis, etc. There aren't a lot of parameters to deal with in the 2Box module. You just need to take one pad at a time and adjust things for each zone of the pad. Try Pad10 type for the 10" pads, Pad12 for the 12". Using Pos1 trigger curve for center mounted triggers is a good way to even the head response more between center and the outer head.
The PD-100 pads can easily be converted to dual zone pads if that is something you are wanting: http://vdrums.com/forum/showthread.php?56834-pd-100-Mod-and-general-question
Tom inputs can be split for adding additional pads though, so splitting the tom inputs the PD-100s are used for creates room for 2 more single zone cymbals or pads.

Title: Re: extreme drums internal acoustic drum triggers with the 2box module?
Post by: Dr.Skins on May 26, 2013, 09:54:48 PM
Thank you, the reason I wanted to upgrade to triggered acoustic drums was for the bigger sizes and the looks to get as close to an acoustic set for feel and looks.
Title: Re: extreme drums internal acoustic drum triggers with the 2box module?
Post by: digitalDrummer on May 27, 2013, 12:09:00 AM
All I can advise is to check out both the internal and external trigger reviews we've done. And one qualification - the revisions to the 2box OS mean that much of the previous incompatibility is now a non-issue and most - if not all- triggers can be tweaked in the settings. To it's really a choice between budget, aesthetics and number of zones.
Let us know how you go.
Title: Re: extreme drums internal acoustic drum triggers with the 2box module?
Post by: Dr.Skins on June 02, 2013, 05:15:37 AM
ok so I purchased a 5pc set of 1985 or 86 tama swingstars for a $125.00 from guitar center. I'm going to buy the bill blast 3ply heads for all the batter sides of the kit., but now it's a toss up between ddrum drt trigger set or a set of billy blast triggers, will the 3ply heads work well with any of these triggers?
Title: Re: extreme drums internal acoustic drum triggers with the 2box module?
Post by: digitalDrummer on June 02, 2013, 08:47:59 AM
Drt may be overkill unless you're gigging and need the spare piezo. They're all single zone except te snare. Personally, I'd go for the Pros. You would even get good results from the redshots, and maybe just get a single Pro snare trigger.
Title: Re: extreme drums internal acoustic drum triggers with the 2box module?
Post by: Dr.Skins on June 02, 2013, 11:26:48 AM
Have you tested the ddrum chrome elites yet?
Title: Re: extreme drums internal acoustic drum triggers with the 2box module?
Post by: digitalDrummer on June 03, 2013, 05:07:03 AM
No, not yet.
Title: Re: extreme drums internal acoustic drum triggers with the 2box module?
Post by: Dr.Skins on July 02, 2013, 10:17:38 PM
Hello, I opted out of the tama  swingstars and recently purchased a set of pdp concept maples along with some ddrum pro triggers. I noticed on the triggers that the casing is wide open with wires exposed. Should I cover them up?, and if so whats the best way to do it? I'm waiting on a set of 3 ply billy blast heads so it's something for me to do while I wait.