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Title: Boot error with PNY 32Gb card
Post by: Haggis-man on December 21, 2012, 09:36:30 PM
Hi all,

I just bought a PNY Professional 32Gb class 10 card from Amazon, it's the same one in the compatibility list.

Problem is just after the card boots I get the following error:

FAT S 0512 C 16K

I didn't format the card, just copied my working 16Gb Lexar card contents to it. I don't want to format the card in case that causes further issues.

Has anyone seen this type of error before?

Thanks
Title: Re: Boot error with PNY 32Gb card
Post by: digitalDrummer on December 22, 2012, 03:03:40 AM
No. And I've tested three different PNY cards.
Title: Re: Boot error with PNY 32Gb card
Post by: Jman on December 22, 2012, 04:05:29 AM
Nothing like that on the PNYs I have either. Did it come in a package like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/PNY-32GB-SDHC-Professional-CLASS-10-Memory-Card-/290833751897?pt=Digital_Camera_Memory_Cards&hash=item43b70adf59
That is the retail package all the ones came in that I bought. If you get a chance, take a pic or 2 of the front and back of the card plus the package. That might tell us if it is a fake.
Title: Re: Boot error with PNY 32Gb card
Post by: Haggis-man on December 22, 2012, 10:07:35 AM
Thanks for the replies.

I decided to format the card with the utility posted here in an earlier thread. I then copied my 16Gb card contents over again and now the card works!

I can only assume there was corruption on the card that the format has removed. I also tested for latency issues with some of my bigger DSND's that I've made such as hi hats, and so far so good!

I'll keep you posted if anything crops up.

Cheers
Title: Re: Boot error with PNY 32Gb card
Post by: beppedrum on January 06, 2013, 10:35:28 PM
Quote from: Brian-D on December 21, 2012, 09:36:30 PM
Hi all,

I just bought a PNY Professional 32Gb class 10 card from Amazon, it's the same one in the compatibility list.

Problem is just after the card boots I get the following error:

FAT S 0512 C 16K

I didn't format the card, just copied my working 16Gb Lexar card contents to it. I don't want to format the card in case that causes further issues.

Has anyone seen this type of error before?

Thanks

I have the same problem with the PNY 32 Gb SD card bought from Amazon!
can someone help me?

EDIT:
formatted with
https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/formatter_3/

and now my SD card works fine! Thanx Briand-D!
Title: Re: Boot error with PNY 32Gb card
Post by: Jman on January 06, 2013, 11:24:44 PM
Quote from: beppedrum on January 06, 2013, 10:35:28 PM
I have the same problem with the PNY 32 Gb SD card bought from Amazon!
can someone help me?

EDIT:
formatted with
https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/formatter_3/

and now my SD card works fine! Thanx Briand-D!

Would it be possible for you to post a pic of the card front and back, and the packaging? I'm interested to see if it looks the same as the ones I have. I have 4 of these and haven't had that problem with any. None of mine came from Amazon though.
Title: Re: Boot error with PNY 32Gb card
Post by: Haggis-man on January 07, 2013, 05:31:12 PM
Quote from: Jman on January 06, 2013, 11:24:44 PM
Would it be possible for you to post a pic of the card front and back, and the packaging? I'm interested to see if it looks the same as the ones I have. I have 4 of these and haven't had that problem with any. None of mine came from Amazon though.

Hi Jerry,

Here's a pic showing the front of the card. There was no packaging except the plastic box you see in the pic.

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/19242611/20130107_164537.jpg)

I was suspicious about the card when it arrived without a blister pack, but it has performed without issue and no latency issues after I formatted it, and most of my DSND's are large homemade one's from BFD with many hi hats being over 300Mb.

Cheers
Title: Re: Boot error with PNY 32Gb card
Post by: digitalDrummer on January 07, 2013, 09:15:05 PM
That doesn't look like either of mine. My "professional" is a black card. My blue card is labeled "High Speed".
I'm a bit dubious about that one.
Title: Re: Boot error with PNY 32Gb card
Post by: Jman on January 07, 2013, 09:30:03 PM
Mine are exactly like the pic and definitely all of them came in sealed retail packages. There are so many knock offs out there now. I would definitely recommend buying in retail packaging, a little safer that way at least .....  I've never seen one of those that was blue in a retail pkg..... I had the same type of thing happen with some Sandisk cards earlier last year that I posted about.
(http://weblogimages.com/dajmando/PNY%2032GB%20SDHC%20133X.jpg)
Title: Re: Boot error with PNY 32Gb card
Post by: beppedrum on January 10, 2013, 07:56:41 AM
Quote from: Jman on January 06, 2013, 11:24:44 PM
Would it be possible for you to post a pic of the card front and back, and the packaging? I'm interested to see if it looks the same as the ones I have. I have 4 of these and haven't had that problem with any. None of mine came from Amazon though.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img96/5854/img1499u.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img687/9774/img1500q.jpg)
where's the difference?
the case Is the  same little plastic box
Title: Re: Boot error with PNY 32Gb card
Post by: Jman on January 10, 2013, 03:40:14 PM
Quote from: beppedrum on January 10, 2013, 07:56:41 AM
(http://imageshack.us/a/img96/5854/img1499u.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img687/9774/img1500q.jpg)
where's the difference?
the case Is the  same little plastic box

Your card looks the same as mine, front and back, even the lettering on the back with the exception of the manufacture date, obviously that would be different. Alan and I were commenting on the Blue card of Brian's ... questionable since the ones we have and the pics on PNY's website and pics from retailers ..... are all Black also. The reason I mention sealed, retail packaging is because the fake memory cards I have gotten burned on in the past did NOT come in retail packaging. So I always try to buy in retail packaging now.
(http://weblogimages.com/dajmando/PNYHiSpeedClass10_32gb.jpg)
Title: Re: Boot error with PNY 32Gb card
Post by: Murgen on January 10, 2013, 08:55:06 PM
This vendor is more safe and sells for 29.95 EUR atm

http://www.conrad.nl/ce/nl/product/415240/PNY-SD-geheugenkaart-32-GB-Class-10/0412021&ref=list

According to the next poster Conrad also sells fake cards. :(

Title: Re: Boot error with PNY 32Gb card
Post by: Nico on January 10, 2013, 10:40:19 PM
I have one from Conrad and it is the same blue card as from Brian-D, came in sealed retail package. No marking on the back of the card. Also had the boot error.
I had some latency with this card (when playing busy patterns on 4 pads: hihat foot, snare, ride, kick). Didn't do more tests because meanwhile a Lexar arrived.
It is slower than the Lexar Pro 133x class 10 32GB, but cheaper. Access time 1.1 ms vs 0.8 ms, speed 18,5 MB/s vs 19,1 MB/s
Title: Re: Boot error with PNY 32Gb card
Post by: digitalDrummer on January 11, 2013, 01:00:49 AM
Besides the one in Jman's post above, I can only vouch for this one:
(http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss257/bigalinoz/th_sas_zps26a9cdd5.jpg) (http://s581.beta.photobucket.com/user/bigalinoz/media/sas_zps26a9cdd5.jpg.html)
Its performance seems identical to the black "professional"
Title: Re: Boot error with PNY 32Gb card
Post by: Jman on January 11, 2013, 02:47:33 AM
Just to test I loaded up another of my PNY cards today with 29GBs (I picked this one up at Best Buy before Christmas), no formatting needed, no boot error, no lag, no problems.
Title: Re: Boot error with PNY 32Gb card
Post by: Jman on January 11, 2013, 02:59:26 AM
One thing just as a reminder when copying your files to a new card. Make sure you put the DrumIt1.26 and the drumit.dkit files on the Root of the card. If those are not placed in the Root portion you'll get a boot error. 
Title: Re: Boot error with PNY 32Gb card
Post by: beppedrum on January 11, 2013, 07:44:01 AM
certainly, Jman thanks
I've formatted the SD PNY and it works fine but ..
I can't use the USB cable between the module and computer, then upload the files in the SD card I use a small adapter to plug in the SD card into the USB socket
Title: Re: Boot error with PNY 32Gb card
Post by: Nico on January 11, 2013, 12:19:33 PM
Quote from: Murgen on January 10, 2013, 08:55:06 PM
This vendor is more safe and sells for 29.95 EUR atm

http://www.conrad.nl/ce/nl/product/415240/PNY-SD-geheugenkaart-32-GB-Class-10/0412021&ref=list

According to the next poster Conrad also sells fake cards. :(

I don't think Amazon and Conrad would sell (the same) fake cards. Are you sure the blue professional cards are fake ? Mine (P-SDHC32G10-EF) came in original sealed retail package. Maybe PNY changed the color or the black/blue are manufactured in different countries.
Title: Re: Boot error with PNY 32Gb card
Post by: Haggis-man on January 11, 2013, 03:48:30 PM
Quote from: Nico on January 11, 2013, 12:19:33 PM
I don't think Amazon and Conrad would sell (the same) fake cards. Are you sure the blue professional cards are fake ? Mine (P-SDHC32G10-EF) came in original sealed retail package. Maybe PNY changed the color or the black/blue are manufactured in different countries.

I don't think the PNY card I bought is a fake even though it didn't come in a blister pack. The card is performing just fine and reads and writes at similar speeds to the Lexar card I have which is definitely a genuine card.

Cheers
Title: Re: Boot error with PNY 32Gb card
Post by: Jman on January 11, 2013, 04:58:44 PM
Quote from: beppedrum on January 11, 2013, 07:44:01 AM
certainly, Jman thanks
I've formatted the SD PNY and it works fine but ..
I can't use the USB cable between the module and computer, then upload the files in the SD card I use a small adapter to plug in the SD card into the USB socket
Once you do the card mod and use a card larger than the stock 4GB card that comes in the module you can no longer connect the module via USB. You need to do exactly what you are doing and just use a card reader. You can do all the same things though with the card connected via a reader, including using the 2Box Editor.
Title: Re: Boot error with PNY 32Gb card
Post by: Jman on January 11, 2013, 05:25:02 PM
Quote from: Nico on January 11, 2013, 12:19:33 PM
I don't think Amazon and Conrad would sell (the same) fake cards. Are you sure the blue professional cards are fake ? Mine (P-SDHC32G10-EF) came in original sealed retail package. Maybe PNY changed the color or the black/blue are manufactured in different countries.
Amazon uses lots of sources, I have read reviews where people have gotten bad cards and Amazon's response was they have a lot of trouble from certain vendors. I don't know if the blue cards are fake, but to me it is suspicious especially since they have no markings on the back, that is a red flag IMO.

Contacting PNY would prolly clear it up.
Here is the page from PNY showing the official product and packaging images:
http://www3.pny.com/AboutPNY/Press_Images.aspx

Title: Re: Boot error with PNY 32Gb card
Post by: digitalDrummer on January 11, 2013, 10:31:26 PM
Don't expect any reply from PNY. I tried contacting them - even tried their PR contacts in my professional capacity - and have not got any response.
Title: Re: Boot error with PNY 32Gb card
Post by: Haggis-man on February 05, 2013, 08:44:33 AM
Hi all,

I decided to buy another PNY card, a 16Gb this time from a different vendor on Amazon. This one arrived in the blister pack as as shown below. I had the same boot error as the 32Gb card until I formatted it with the formatter tool. After this it worked just fine. This leads me to assume that the 32Gb is actually genuine (it is still working fine with no issues) and that the cards are being pre-formatted at the factory to a different cluster size or something like that.

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/19242611/16gbcard.jpg)
Title: Re: Boot error with PNY 32Gb card
Post by: Murgen on March 08, 2013, 08:40:36 PM
Lexar worked out of the box, PNY gave boot-error. Did a format and loading 2box files on it as we speak.
Title: Re: Boot error with PNY 32Gb card
Post by: Haggis-man on March 08, 2013, 09:19:41 PM
Quote from: Murgen on March 08, 2013, 08:40:36 PM
Lexar worked out of the box, PNY gave boot-error. Did a format and loading 2box files on it as we speak.

Hi Murgen,

Did you remember to use the SD Formatter tool and not Windows to format the card?
Title: Re: Boot error with PNY 32Gb card
Post by: Murgen on March 08, 2013, 11:25:34 PM
Quote from: Brian-D on March 08, 2013, 09:19:41 PM
Hi Murgen,

Did you remember to use the SD Formatter tool and not Windows to format the card?

O yes. Used the SD Formatter and card works fine. Good to have a 2nd card as spare.