I bought Boekhour's MkI rack and used components to upgrade my MkII rack to MkIII! :rock:
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8190/8127351446_b36ca9e944.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/murgensbook/8127351446/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/murgensbook/8127351446/) by murgentemplar (http://www.flickr.com/people/murgensbook/), on Flickr
With 4 Gibraltar clamps I added a front and a side tube to my rack. I use the front bar to fixate the bass-drum and I use the sidebar as second bar to mount the module. This way I make room for an extra tom.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8193/8127317297_9b2e8025e0.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/murgensbook/8127317297/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/murgensbook/8127317297/) by murgentemplar (http://www.flickr.com/people/murgensbook/), on Flickr
With an extra front-bar it is very easy to fixate the bass-drum. I use a Gibraltar multi-clamp and the rod from a bass-drum cowbell mount from Pearl.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8052/8127351244_7150f6b9bf.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/murgensbook/8127351244/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/murgensbook/8127351244/) by murgentemplar (http://www.flickr.com/people/murgensbook/), on Flickr
The rod ends in a foot with rubber to protect the bass-drum hoop and I removed the rest.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8329/8128477741_9ffe6bbbbe.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/murgensbook/8128477741/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/murgensbook/8128477741/) by murgentemplar (http://www.flickr.com/people/murgensbook/), on Flickr
The result is a bass-drum safely secured and very stable. The extra bars add strength to the rack. All together I paid 105 EURO for 5 clamps and the costs for the second hand MkI rack from Boekhour (thanx, bro for the fast delivery). The rod was in my drum-cabin since 2004.
More info and pic's on request.
I + II = III!
Murgen, you're welcome! Good thing I didn't bring those tubes to the scrapyard ;-), when antohter person can be made happy with it. The combination of the two racks (extra horizental bar) makes it sturdier I think.
Looks very nice. Well done, my friend!
Thank you, and I have enough tubes or another MkIII. ;)
hey murgan,
the idea with the extra tube for the bassdrum is very good. you write that you have a tube (big one) left? would you sell it? (are you even close...? I´m located in germany)
what hihatstand do you use, btw? mine is with legs, being always in the way...
cheers,
lutz
Quote from: tower of p on October 28, 2012, 07:51:28 PM
hey murgan,
the idea with the extra tube for the bassdrum is very good. you write that you have a tube (big one) left? would you sell it? (are you even close...? I´m located in germany)
what hihatstand do you use, btw? mine is with legs, being always in the way...
cheers,
lutz
I live in the Netherlands. I can send it to you if you make up for the send-costs. The hihat standard is a Drumcraft H8.0 without legs. Weird enough it is not showing on their website but it is for sale in any drumstore selling Drumcraft. Alternative is a Gibraltar without legs.
Quote from: Murgen on October 28, 2012, 08:00:35 PM
I live in the Netherlands. I can send it to you if you make up for the send-costs. The hihat standard is a Drumcraft H8.0 without legs. Weird enough it is not showing on their website but it is for sale in any drumstore selling Drumcraft. Alternative is a Gibraltar without legs.
Thanks Murgan! I sent you a PM...
Hey fellow 2boxers,
thanks to Murgen, I have a modified rack now, too. I used 1 long tube from an MK-1-Rack (which I got from Murgen for very small money, thanks once more!!) and installed it between the other long tubes on the front of the rack, in order to fasten the top of my bassdrum-pad.
I must say, it really makes my doublebass-playing feel much better and a lot more like I´m used to from my accoustic-kit. The bassdrum-pad can't swing backwards anymore when hit, as it did before.
To attach the additional tube to the rack I used 2 of these:
http://www.thomann.de/de/dixon_verbindungsstueck.htm (http://www.thomann.de/de/dixon_verbindungsstueck.htm)
Those Dixon-clamps fit very well for our racktubes.
In addition, I installed one of these clamps:
http://www.thomann.de/de/dixon_rackklammer.htm (http://www.thomann.de/de/dixon_rackklammer.htm)
and parts of this cowbell-holder (the bar with that thing fixed to it, which fits exactly to grab the bd-pad-ring):
http://www.thomann.de/de/pearl_75h_bass_drum_cowbell_halter.htm (http://www.thomann.de/de/pearl_75h_bass_drum_cowbell_halter.htm)
this fixes the upper side of the bd-pad to the tube.
All in all it´s just like Murgan installed his additional tube.
One problem I got was that there was a lot of crosstalking from the hihat when playing the bassdrum. I could extensively solve that by adjusting the hihat-option "crosstalk" in the brain to "high".
2 pictures (couldn´t figure out how to make them shown right here...sorry):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hu2aaiotjucwh46/20121116_154834.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fs5ks0xyjzhm48i/20121116_154908.jpg
Yay! Nice! And you are right, the feel of the kick improves a lot!
Murgen: was it these items you bought?
http://www.thomann.de/se/pearl_75h_bass_drum_cowbell_halter.htm
http://www.thomann.de/se/gibraltar_grsra_rackrohr_klammer.htm
Sorry, forgot to ask about the clamp for the cowbell holder, could it be this:
http://www.thomann.de/se/gibraltar_sc_grsraa_ratchet_arm_clamp.htm
Hi Rythm, I will check the items:
This is the right cowbell holder!
http://www.thomann.de/nl/pearl_75h_bass_drum_cowbell_halter.htm
Here is the multiclamp to hold the cowbell holder in place.
http://www.thomann.de/nl/gibraltar_gprmc_multi_rack_klammer.htm
This is the rackclamp to mount the extra tube to the rack (not 100% sure but as long as you can connect tubes it should work).
http://www.thomann.de/nl/gibraltar_grsra_rackrohr_klammer.htm
Better picture show it is the right clamp.
(http://www.monumentmusic.biz/image/cache/data/GIBRALTAR/sc_grsra_action-800x600.jpg)
Good luck!
this one is 2 times cheaper , and will do the same job ....
http://www.musicstore.de/fr_FR/FRF/Peace-RackClamp-DA74-1-5-/art-DRU0020145-000
(http://www.promusicaustralia.com/drum/Peaceimages/da75-74.JPG)
I own one of these , its very solid and costs 14 euros : http://www.musicstore.de/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/MusicStore-MusicStoreShop-Site/fr_FR/-/FRF/ViewProductDetail-Start?ProductRef=DRU0018916-000%40MusicStore-MusicStoreShop&JumpTo=OfferList
(http://images.musicstore.de/images/GALLERY_DRU0018916-000_1_images1600.jpg)
sorry for the image size...:)
Some nice Idea's in this topic, I have also have enough tubes to make my rack more stable.
So soon i will post some pictures here about my MK3 Extreme Drumrack.
I bought my clamps at my local drumshop and the cowbell mount was gathering dust. Not much choice there, anyway, any simular clamp will do and it works.
Thanks Murgen and edtc!
Ha ha, slammed through the original bassdrum head last week. Ordered a really good double layered head from this store, special for 2box, works better then the original head.
http://www.682drums.com/Mesh-Heads-voor-2BOX-c-262.html (http://www.682drums.com/Mesh-Heads-voor-2BOX-c-262.html)
I'm going to implement the ideas from your post with better mounting from bassdrum also. Will submit pictures soon!
Grtz
Quote from: boekhour on December 31, 2012, 09:39:59 PM
Ha ha, slammed through the original bassdrum head last week. Ordered a really good double layered head from this store, special for 2box, works better then the original head.
http://www.682drums.com/Mesh-Heads-voor-2BOX-c-262.html (http://www.682drums.com/Mesh-Heads-voor-2BOX-c-262.html)
I'm going to implement the ideas from your post with better mounting from bassdrum also. Will submit pictures soon!
Grtz
I'm sorry for you I bought your racktubes :) but I'm glad you did!
I only need the special clamp ... :-)
Quote from: Murgen on December 31, 2012, 09:41:48 PM
I'm sorry for you I bought your racktubes :) but I'm glad you did!
me too! :rock:
You're welcome! 8)
Hi there, here is another update showing the benefit of the nifty Mk III design. I added an old side-tube from the MI in the MII rack and use it to mount the Zildjian DSP and Pearl Throne Thumper unit. Yes, you are looking to the one of the best setups in e-kit county. Used 2 chrome Gibraltar clamps.
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3742/10743236075_5d0782f777_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/84073495@N04/10743236075/)
Rack (http://www.flickr.com/photos/84073495@N04/10743236075/) by murgenetemplar (http://www.flickr.com/people/84073495@N04/), on Flickr
That's a very nice setup!
Love the Allen & Heath mixer, the rack, and the way that UFO-looking metronome seems to 'float' on your music-stand!
8)
Murgen,
What do you recommend out of these tube options for the kick?
http://www.gibraltarhardware.com/index.cfm?fa=partsmain&curcat=2&bnd=11&cid=113&sid=644
Quote from: mcrackins on May 29, 2014, 05:05:59 AM
Murgen,
What do you recommend out of these tube options for the kick?
http://www.gibraltarhardware.com/index.cfm?fa=partsmain&curcat=2&bnd=11&cid=113&sid=644
The original 2Box bar is slightly curved and ~ 105 - 110 cm length (can't remember exactly and missing a measuring tape at this moment). That is 43 inch. I would try the 46 inch curved tube but I can't tell the tubes are equally curved. Is there a shop where you can compare a 2Box tube with the Gibraltar tube?
Here is the pic from the MkI which clearly shows the tube I used:
http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/6064/img0611vs.jpg
Quote from: Murgen on May 29, 2014, 10:55:13 AM
The original 2Box bar is slightly curved and ~ 105 - 110 cm length (can't remember exactly and missing a measuring tape at this moment). That is 43 inch. I would try the 46 inch curved tube but I can't tell the tubes are equally curved. Is there a shop where you can compare a 2Box tube with the Gibraltar tube?
Here is the pic from the MkI which clearly shows the tube I used:
http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/6064/img0611vs.jpg
Unless I'm mistaken....Gibraltar ( &most "curved" rack tubes) are at a 15 degree radius. Seems to be a standard.
Is this strictly for mounting the kick? Or are you building a whole new rack for mixer, module, etc?
Quote from: Murgen on May 29, 2014, 10:55:13 AM
The original 2Box bar is slightly curved and ~ 105 - 110 cm length (can't remember exactly and missing a measuring tape at this moment). That is 43 inch. I would try the 46 inch curved tube but I can't tell the tubes are equally curved. Is there a shop where you can compare a 2Box tube with the Gibraltar tube?
Here is the pic from the MkI which clearly shows the tube I used:
http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/6064/img0611vs.jpg
Thank you Murgen! Yes I have a shop close by that I can do a compare.
Hemiboy - Just want reinforce the kick. Way to much flexing going on, especially with the Tball Beater
The MkI tube was a close fit, with a slightly longer tube it will be easy. And prolly fulrmr is right and is the curve angle identical.