Is there more information about a new yamaha e-kit and the new pearl E-kit pro?
I think there is something new from yamaha showing at the winter namm maybe more expensive than the td20. Should be interesting. Can't find anything yet on the Pearl ekit. I think 2box has shook things up.
Hi everybody
I've just heard somethig about yamaha for the end of december. Probably a new e-kit with new rubber skins instead of their actual pads...
i've heard that from a musik store...
Let's wait..
Quote from: airdrummer on December 05, 2009, 06:15:10 PM
Hi everybody
I've just heard somethig about yamaha for the end of december. Probably a new e-kit with new rubber skins instead of their actual pads...
i've heard that from a musik store...
Let's wait..
why not meshheads? instead of rubber.
Quote from: roel on December 05, 2009, 11:11:41 PM
why not meshheads? instead of rubber.
I was thinking the same thing. The rubberpads is a bit 90th century by now! =/
I think people keep getting the rubber heads mixed up with the rubber pads. Rubber heads is more of a new thing and may have a better responce.
Quote from: wbrs on December 06, 2009, 03:05:28 PM
I think people keep getting the rubber heads mixed up with the rubber pads. Rubber heads is more of a new thing and may have a better responce.
Then yamaha can better concentrate on completely new pads, just like the 2box pads.
let the user choose between rubber, mesh or a real head.
I think it is better than just a rubber pad. But what's up with yamaha, will they come with a
new e-kit or are they just upgrading their pads? is there any news about that?
and iam curious about the pearl e-pro live...
Yes I agree the more options with the heads the better like 2box. Yamaha pads are thier biggest drawback. It would take alot more than better pads to compete with 2box.
We will have to wait till namm to get more on the pearl ekit too I think. But they arn't in as good of a position as yamaha to make a move that would put them in the lead. I do think it has become as race to the top. I think 2 box will fill my needs. I'm not thrilled with The orange and the little pads, but they will be just for the studio. Now I can't say definitly because I haven't seen these new kits and 2box hasn't been able to offer their product to me with all the bugs worked out where I could demo it. If they had been able to I probably would already have bought it.
Quote from: wbrs on December 06, 2009, 08:24:20 PM
We will have to wait till namm to get more on the pearl ekit too I think. But they arn't in as good of a position as yamaha to make a move that would put them in the lead. I do think it has become as race to the top. I think 2 box will fill my needs. I'm not thrilled with The orange and the little pads, but they will be just for the studio. Now I can't say definitly because I haven't seen these new kits and 2box hasn't been able to offer their product to me with all the bugs worked out where I could demo it. If they had been able to I probably would already have bought it.
yeah me also.
A quote on the PearlDrummersForum from the official rep.
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Quote from: roel on December 05, 2009, 11:11:41 PM
why not meshheads? instead of rubber.
Actually I think the Yamaha rubber pads feel more like real drums than any mesh heads. Mesh heads have a bit too much rebound to my taste. Real drums don't behave that way. I'm looking forward to try the 2box rubber heads when they are available.
You can decrease the rebound by tighten them up very high
but - yes- i want to try those rubber heads, too
Quote from: airdrummer on December 05, 2009, 06:15:10 PM
Hi everybody
I've just heard somethig about yamaha for the end of december. Probably a new e-kit with new rubber skins instead of their actual pads...
i've heard that from a musik store...
Let's wait..
I still don't get it...
If they are going with the rubber heads they would probably use their regular shells instead of pads is my guess. There's definitly a market for it. It wouldn't take that much to upgrade their module to use high quality samples like 2box. That would put them in the lead because of the real drum look as long as you could load other samples. That would be hard for other edrum companies to over come because yamaha makes all this kind of stuff seperatly already. I think 2box will have it's own nitch in the market, alot of you guy's actually like those little orange pads and it appears they're going to sound and play great.
Well I am waiting for the new kits before I decided which Kit to buy, I did go to demo a 2box, but the dealer wouldnt let me, told me he had sold the demo kit, and wasnt getting anymore, so 2box lost me..
Quote from: goony on December 16, 2009, 10:17:29 PM
Well I am waiting for the new kits before I decided which Kit to buy, I did go to demo a 2box, but the dealer wouldnt let me, told me he had sold the demo kit, and wasnt getting anymore, so 2box lost me..
Hi goony
What retailer was it that you went to? It's a shame that you don't try the DrumIt Five out before you make your decision, but from some of your other posts, i get the feeling that you are leaning towards the DM10?
Thanks
Scott
not leaning towards any yet, I tried the Yammie extreme today, mightily impressed as well. The retailer in particular, well I wont name as, they been ok in the past, but I certainly will not be going there again, espcially after a 2 hour wasted drive. But they are based in Birmingham. So far I have tried the TD9 (nice sounds but mesh heads way too bouncy), Yamaha extreme, nice kit, way too big for my needs, but feels nice to play. Drum it, well no local dealers (Im in Sleaford, Lincs)
Yamaha is delivering two new kits next year:
http://www.hellfiredrums.com/archives/767
(http://www.hellfiredrums.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/DTX950K-2.jpg)
(http://www.hellfiredrums.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/DTX900K-2.jpg)
yeah i saw these on the website, silicon based heads on pads, way out of my budget though. :'(
Pearl comes with this:
http://www.pearldrum.com/epro-preview.html
Theo
Quote from: TrommelTheo on January 11, 2010, 11:53:00 PM
Pearl comes with this:
http://www.pearldrum.com/epro-preview.html
Theo
wow... wow... wow... wow... wow... :o
The Pearl redbox module looks like its a rebranded Alesis DM10 pro....
IT IS a rebranded DM 10 :animal: and it looks better than the original, but it takes 20 minutes to load bfd or toontrack *rofl*
But look on the "inspired" look of Dennis chambers *lol* ::)
Theo
Quote from: TrommelTheo on January 11, 2010, 11:53:00 PM
Pearl comes with this:
http://www.pearldrum.com/epro-preview.html
Theo
all I can say is that iam very impressed by the new pearl e-pro kit.
Now my question what will this set cost in euro's?
i think it would cost more than a do-uble of a D5
and where are the advantages of a E-Drum? Less transportroom, quick builtup and down, small weights
Theo
Quote from: roel on January 12, 2010, 05:08:10 PM
all I can say is that iam very impressed by the new pearl e-pro kit.
Now my question what will this set cost in euro's?
Hi roel
Could you tell me what it is about the e-pro kit that you are so impressed with?
Just interested in all the different points of view with this kit.
Thanks
Scott
Quote from: Scottie on January 12, 2010, 05:52:57 PM
Hi roel
Could you tell me what it is about the e-pro kit that you are so impressed with?
Just interested in all the different points of view with this kit.
Thanks
Scott
Iam still interested in the 2box set, but Iam curious about the price of the Pearl e-pro.
it looks like an acoustic kit, it has great sounds and it looks sturdie, but iam wondering how mutch inputs there are,and what about that 128 mb? not much...
I also like the look of the 2box, and for homeuse I prefer the 2box set.
Quote from: roel on January 12, 2010, 06:05:48 PM
Iam still interested in the 2box set, but Iam curious about the price of the Pearl e-pro.
it looks like an acoustic kit, it has great sounds and it looks sturdie, but iam wondering how mutch inputs there are,and what about that 128 mb? not much...
I also like the look of the 2box, and for homeuse I prefer the 2box set.
Hi roel
Please dont take my question as me bashing your post. I was truly interested to hear your view on it, as it is always good to hear what end user's think about other products.
I think this indicates just how big the edrum market is getting now, and it is good to see another name in the mix. It certainly keeps everyone on their toes, which means only good things for the end users ;D
Thanks
Scott
Quote from: roel on January 12, 2010, 06:05:48 PMit has great sounds
Did you hear the sounds , other than those video files?
I'm not impressed. But different tastes for different folks
Quotehow mutch inputs there are,
Look on http://www.alesis.com/dm10prokit#
Quoteand what about that 128 mb? not much...
Enough to load a full toontrack kit into it. What would you have more?
Quoteand for homeuse I prefer the 2box set.
Why?
Quote from: puttenvr on January 12, 2010, 06:54:14 PM
Did you hear the sounds , other than those video files?
I'm not impressed. But different tastes for different folks
Look on http://www.alesis.com/dm10prokit#
Enough to load a full toontrack kit into it. What would you have more?
Why?
no I did not hear more sounds only from that video but they sound good, curious how it sounds live.
so the pearl module has 12 inputs,
I prefer the 2box for home-use because its smaller/compact and it has 4 gig memory.
1 full toontrack kit into it? this is not so much... well the 2box has at least 50/128 great sounding kits.
it looks like if there is laying snow on the drumkit ;D
don´t inhale SNOW, whatever kind of it is :rock:
puttenvr, 128 MB RAMis a bad Joke, a relict of the early 90´s, isn´t it?
The 2Box-Brain will beat everything on th Market at this moment, cause it has (will have) open source and no other Brand can delive this now! If a DM 10 can load a EZ-Drummer - Set (in nearly 20 Minutes i´ve heard) why cant they use modern electronic equipment with powerful Processoring and 4-16 gig Ram where you can load different Sets from Toonfxpansionaddictive-Drums? SM-ProAudio shows all of us, how it could be with their V-Machine. at the moment you can only play one -Set of EZ-Drummer, but this is (what i ve seen on the installation-tool) only a question of programming the tree to the saved sets you ´ve created bevor...
OMG, my € 200,00 Mobilephone has more Processor-Power than a € 1k to 2k expensive E-Drum-Brain, if it wouldn´t be so sad i would laugh about it
I hate E-Drum-Developer without visions like the guys from Alesis/Pearl, Yamaha and Roland, the 2Box Team opened a new way and i can only hope for them, that this is not the end for years and they will have the Power to surprise us in the near future.
Theo
Quote from: TrommelTheo on January 12, 2010, 08:52:16 PM
don´t inhale SNOW, whatever kind of it is :rock:
puttenvr, 128 MB RAMis a bad Joke, a relict of the early 90´s, isn´t it?
The 2Box-Brain will beat everything on th Market at this moment, cause it has (will have) open source and no one other Brand can delive this now! If a DM 10 can load a EZ-Drummer - Set (in nearly 20 Minutes i´ve heard) why cant they use modern electronic equipment with powerful Processoring and 4-16 gig Ram where you can load different Sets from Toonfxpansionaddictive-Drums? SM-ProAudio shows all of us, how it could be with their V-Machine. at the moment you can only play one -Set of EZ-Drummer, but this is (what i ve seen on the installation-tool) only a question of programming the tree to the saved sets you ´ve created bevor...
OMG, my € 200,00 Mobilephone has more Processor-Power than a € 1k to 2k expensive E-Drum-Brain, if it wouldn´t be so sad i would laugh about it
I hate E-Drum-Developer without visions like the guys from Alesis/Pearl, Yamaha and Roland, the 2Box Team opened a new way and i can only hope for them, that this is not the end for years and they will have the Power to surprise us in the near future.
Theo
I totally agree with this.
Quote from: Scottie on January 12, 2010, 05:52:57 PM
Hi roel
Could you tell me what it is about the e-pro kit that you are so impressed with?
Just interested in all the different points of view with this kit.
Thanks
Scott
How about it looks better than 2 box to me. I'm sure it doesn't sound as good if they haven't greatly improved it over the DM10.
Now if the pearls worked with the 2box module even if it was just the drums and use the 2box hh and crash with a yamaha ride because it's bigger it would look
better to me and still sound good.
Quote from: wbrs on January 12, 2010, 09:53:52 PM
Now if the pearls worked with the 2box module even if it was just the drums and use the 2box hh and crash with a yamaha ride because it's bigger it would look
better to me and still sound good.
you could use drum-tec pads with the 2box module.
Quote from: TrommelTheo on January 12, 2010, 08:52:16 PM
OMG, my € 200,00 Mobilephone has more Processor-Power than a € 1k to 2k expensive E-Drum-Brain, if it wouldn´t be so sad i would laugh about it
Haha I just wrote the same thing in another post (didn't see yours). By the way, I've already copyrighted 2Box: The iPhone Application ;)
Quote from: wbrs on January 12, 2010, 09:35:04 PM
How about it looks better than 2 box to me. I'm sure it doesn't sound as good if they haven't greatly improved it over the DM10.
I have never understood peoples logic when it comes to this. So you would rather your kit looks good than sound good? If I went to a show and saw someone sitting infront of a really cool kit then heard them playing crappy sounds it would make me not take them serious as a drummer at all. I actually think if this is really what pearl has done and gone down the alesis route, I think it's a total kop out.
For drummers both a good sound and good look are important
For the audience only good playing and a good sound is important
When the audience is happy with the latter, I'll get applause as a result I am happy
So why bother the looks of a drumkit?
good point.
What are good looks anyway?
can not argue about taste ;D
what does a good looking Kit help, if the drummer looks like puttenvr or me? :rock: ;D ;D
Theo
Quote from: TrommelTheo on January 13, 2010, 07:14:35 PM
what does a good looking Kit help, if the drummer looks like puttenvr or me? :rock: ;D ;D
Theo
lol :rock:
Hahahaha
Coming back to the memory thing, what kind of memory is inside? Is there a slot or it's fixed somehow.
I wish I could open it up to see it but then of course the warranty is gone.
Henk
Quote from: Travis182 on January 13, 2010, 02:54:01 PM
I have never understood peoples logic when it comes to this. So you would rather your kit looks good than sound good? If I went to a show and saw someone sitting infront of a really cool kit then heard them playing crappy sounds it would make me not take them serious as a drummer at all. I actually think if this is really what pearl has done and gone down the alesis route, I think it's a total kop out.
I know you guys are a little touchy when I knock the look of your little orange p**sy pads , but where in my post did you get the idea I don't demand the highest sound quality?
Finally a new Roland octapad
SPD-30
http://www.roland.com/products/en/SPD-30/
Quote from: puttenvr on January 14, 2010, 01:56:53 PM
Finally a new Roland octapad
SPD-30
http://www.roland.com/products/en/SPD-30/
Wouldn't say no to one of those :)
Pitty they didn't include a sample function
It's a nice tool to jam along with, as long as it doesn't start to bore/annoy you
Quote from: wbrs on January 14, 2010, 01:43:09 PM
I know you guys are a little touchy when I knock the look of your little orange p**sy pads , but where in my post did you get the idea I don't demand the highest sound quality?
Its not that anyone's touchy about you having an opinion wbrs, its the way you come across - is there any need to try to rattle people's cages just for your amusement? I wouldn't mind so much unless I saw a point to you calling the 2Box pads 'little orange p**sy pads', which I don't because:
- The pads and cymbals are a good size
- Being made from aluminium and polycarbonate make them very strong - not 'pussy'
- Orange is just a colour - if they were blue some would complain. If they were yellow some would complain. If they were green some would complain...you get the idea. I personally love the look of the 2Box and so does every person that has come to my house to try it.
So you want the best look and the best sound - may I ask what you are using currently, and what you plan to buy?
The e-pro looks fine and so does the hardware, but I wasn't impressed with the sounds at all. Sounded like a td-8/9 to me i.e. not too good. The high res kit sounded nice but if you can only fit one in memory its a bit limiting. Strangely I thought that one of the positive things about having an e-kit is the reduced weight. I have always hated having to carry so much gear and lug massive kits around that popping my 2Box into a neat carry case and slinging it over my shoulder seems like progress to me, whatever you think about the looks. Once you're on stage, its the sound quality that matters, and 2Box has that in spades. I thought people in the audience would think it looked interesting and different anyway rather than just another drum kit...
I'm sorry but that's what they look like to me. Maybe I should keep my opinions to my self. You would rather not know.
Quote from: wbrs on January 14, 2010, 01:43:09 PM
I know you guys are a little touchy when I knock the look of your little orange p**sy pads , but where in my post did you get the idea I don't demand the highest sound quality?
Please refrain from posting comments like this, we'd like to keep this forum open for constructive debate and hints and tips. If you want to offend 2Box or users of a forum.... find another.
Thanks
I use 1963 set of Gretsch. Not found an ekit yet still looking.
Quote from: NeilC on January 15, 2010, 04:01:07 PM
Please refrain from posting comments like this, we'd like to keep this forum open for constructive debate and hints and tips. If you want to offend 2Box or users of a forum.... find another.
Thanks
Weak
wbrs - final warning: respect admins and board members alike or find somewhere else to troll.
What is disrespectful? Even trolls need to know.
Quote from: wbrs on January 15, 2010, 04:56:59 PM
What is disrespectful? Even trolls need to know.
I see you were banned from the v-drums forum - I wonder why...
http://www.vdrums.com/forum/member.php?u=17945 (http://www.vdrums.com/forum/member.php?u=17945)
Yea they didn't like my comments about vdrums either. It is kind of similar. But I've got to call it like I see it.
You would think I'm all alone in my opinion of how the drumit looks. 2box is going to loose alot of sales because of it. They have self limited themselves. How many blues, country, metal, hard rock, rockabilly, would go for this look over an improved version of the epro. And there will be an improved version because it is now a trend for edrums to look like A's. Drumit looks made for the ero disco scene.
No you're not alone, but make comments like you just have, and not stupid ones like you did on the 4th. This is an adult forum for adult speak. Please keep it that way.
If we want to talk about looks? I think it far surpasses the look of the e-pro - lots of drummers will favour the colour and lots won't.
I'm sorry you think it was stupid but it is what I think they look like and I am sure others. It doesn't do you any good to have your head in the sand.
Surely people will buy on how it sounds firstly, yes looks come into it, but the deal breaker should be how it sounds, and the 2box does sound the most natural of E kits. Yes there are some problems, but the look of the kit isnt one of them, it looks different thats all. For me the sound is number one......
Quote from: wbrs on January 15, 2010, 08:02:24 PM
I'm sorry you think it was stupid but it is what I think they look like and I am sure others. It doesn't do you any good to have your head in the sand.
Oh yeah, sorry I just took another look and they DO look like 'little orange pussy pads'. Hmmmm.
Anyway, no more talk of stuff like this, lets stick to the topic of the thread. If you want to bash the colour scheme (again) start your own thread.
Oh the 4th that's my favorite holliday I was probably drunk.
what is the using of a new Benz SLR with wing-Doors, if you cant drive a car??? Same bout the Drums: will someone believe a good Drummer cares about how his Set will look like??? What kind of Noob needs a super duper looking Set to play better drums??? *lol* :animal:
Theo
See this is how I get started. As humanbeings we have the ability to enjoy sight and sound.
Until you actually own a Drumit 5 kit, your opinion does not carry much weight. Most of what you see, hear and read is, at best speculation on your part. Once you become an owner, you opinion is then based on actual experience and becomes more credible at that point. So, until then you can say or think what you want, but to the rest of us who actually own one, it comes down to either admiration or jealously on your part!
If you don't like the look, get another rack, get black paint and you're done and you probably have the best kit on earth at the moment (for this price at least)
Quote from: a700256 on January 15, 2010, 11:08:20 PM
Until you actually own a Drumit 5 kit, your opinion does not carry much weight. Most of what you see, hear and read is, at best speculation on your part. Once you become an owner, you opinion is then based on actual experience and becomes more credible at that point. So, until then you can say or think what you want, but to the rest of us who actually own one, it comes down to either admiration or jealously on your part!
See this is where you guys miss the point. I don't care what you or anybody else thinks about my opinions they carry alot of weight with me.That's how it works people can then do what they want with it. I don't care to try to change anyone to my way. More power to them and you for whatever opinion you have. Now I know yours and good luck with that.