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Title: 2box + superior drummer + Mac + Hammer?
Post by: lee_whitehead on June 25, 2012, 05:30:08 PM
OK, now I admit to being a bit of a luddite when it comes to Midi - the closest I ever got before to anything other than acoustic instruments was plugging in the guitarists amps...

Anyway, I have been trying to get my 2box kit working with Superior Drummer 2.0 but no luck... 5 days and counting.

I have:
- 2box kit
- Superior Drummer
- Reaper
- Midi to USB cable
- Midi Monitor

No matter what I do I am getting nothing and the manuals/youtube dont help either...

Is there a definitive guide to getting this setup somewhere? any pointers or tips?

thanks


Title: Re: 2box + superior drummer + Mac + Hammer?
Post by: digitalDrummer on June 26, 2012, 12:03:37 AM
Is you Mac seeing your MIDI device?
Does Superior load into Reaper?
You probably need to give us a bit more detail about how far you have got and where you have stalled.
I'd start on the Reaper forum, where there is good information.
Title: Re: 2box + superior drummer + Mac + Hammer?
Post by: lee_whitehead on June 26, 2012, 05:13:08 AM
Hi DD,

Thanks for replying!

Yes, the Mac recognises the Midi device and I can select it as a midi source in reaper, it comes up as "USB MIDI Interface" - after that I can load Superior Drummer into Reaper and it drops a load of channels onto the tracking.

The problem I appear to have is that when I hit the drums, I get nothing through into superior drummer, the only thing that reaper appears to be picking up is sound from the internal mac microphone.

I think that the software is all installed properly, its either just not configured right to see the 2box signals, or something else, and I cant seem to solve it!

Title: Re: 2box + superior drummer + Mac + Hammer?
Post by: Baby Samus on June 26, 2012, 06:40:46 AM
Hey man try this.  In Superior, go to the kit view and click on the instrument you want to trigger, for instance the snare.  Then click the Learn button, then hit the pad you want to trigger the snare sound.  Superior should automatically assign it in midi.  Also make sure the sound is outputting through your PC to the speakers/headphones you are using as monitors.  Hope this helps...
Title: Re: 2box + superior drummer + Mac + Hammer?
Post by: lee_whitehead on June 26, 2012, 09:05:49 AM
@ Baby Samus - tried that, nothing happening - no sound coming through at all, just dead, doesnt register hits on the visual drumkit display in SD either  :-[
Title: Re: 2box + superior drummer + Mac + Hammer?
Post by: digitalDrummer on June 26, 2012, 10:31:47 AM
If you select a groove in SD, can you hear that?
Title: Re: 2box + superior drummer + Mac + Hammer?
Post by: lee_whitehead on June 26, 2012, 12:57:10 PM
Quote from: digitalDrummer on June 26, 2012, 10:31:47 AM
If you select a groove in SD, can you hear that?

ha ha, yes, my soundcard volume is up  :o
Title: Re: 2box + superior drummer + Mac + Hammer?
Post by: lee_whitehead on June 28, 2012, 10:05:28 AM
still not making any headway... any ideas peeps? please  :P
Title: Re: 2box + superior drummer + Mac + Hammer?
Post by: fishmonkey on June 30, 2012, 01:08:59 PM
using MIDI Monitor, are you seeing the incoming MIDI messages from the 2 Box module?
Title: Re: 2box + superior drummer + Mac + Hammer?
Post by: lee_whitehead on June 30, 2012, 02:13:04 PM
hi fishmonkey, nope, nothing coming in at all :-(
Title: Re: 2box + superior drummer + Mac + Hammer?
Post by: fishmonkey on June 30, 2012, 02:16:34 PM
are you sure you have plugged the USB-MIDI cable into the right port on the 2Box module?

and is the USB-MIDI cable definitely Mac compatible?
Title: Re: 2box + superior drummer + Mac + Hammer?
Post by: lee_whitehead on June 30, 2012, 02:44:40 PM
yeah, the cable seems to show up in Reaper as a USB midi option, but it just doesnt appear to be sending anything at all. Its very strange because I have tried all the ports on the back as well as most settings (that I know of) in the software.

Something is amis and its probably very simple, but a bugger to find out why.

I even tried all the settings again with the midi cables swapped over, just to make sure, but its definately still in the right place now on midi in/out
Title: Re: 2box + superior drummer + Mac + Hammer?
Post by: fishmonkey on June 30, 2012, 03:01:06 PM
does the USB-MIDI device show up in the Audio MIDI Setup app? try adding it manually if it doesn't appear.

also, using MIDI Monitor is probably the best way to determine if you've got MIDI action or not. if MIDI Monitor isn't seeing anything, then none of your other music software will either.
Title: Re: 2box + superior drummer + Mac + Hammer?
Post by: lee_whitehead on June 30, 2012, 03:16:32 PM
thanks for persisting with me on this, appreciate it a lot - just wondered about the Audio Midi Setup App? where do I find that? sorry to be a dunce
Title: Re: 2box + superior drummer + Mac + Hammer?
Post by: fishmonkey on June 30, 2012, 03:17:46 PM
it's in your Applications/Utilities folder...
Title: Re: 2box + superior drummer + Mac + Hammer?
Post by: lee_whitehead on July 01, 2012, 07:43:15 PM
BOOM!!! got it working... bloody thing, the in/out cables are labelled wrong on the blooming cable in the first place... I switched them before, but obviously missed something, did it all again and it worked!

thanks for all you help guys, well pleased now  ;D
Title: Re: 2box + superior drummer + Mac + Hammer?
Post by: Jman on July 01, 2012, 08:43:31 PM
Quote from: lee_whitehead on July 01, 2012, 07:43:15 PM
BOOM!!! got it working... bloody thing, the in/out cables are labelled wrong on the blooming cable in the first place... I switched them before, but obviously missed something, did it all again and it worked!

thanks for all you help guys, well pleased now  ;D
Takes about 2 seconds to reverse those 2 cables but a world of frustration leading up to discovering the problem  :'( glad you got it figured out and working.
Title: Re: 2box + superior drummer + Mac + Hammer?
Post by: fishmonkey on July 01, 2012, 11:09:37 PM
ha, that's a classic mistake. MIDI cables can do your head in like that, as you never quite know if an "IN" label near the plug means in to the USB-MIDI device or in to the piece of equipment or in to the computer...
Title: Re: 2box + superior drummer + Mac + Hammer?
Post by: lee_whitehead on July 02, 2012, 05:32:26 AM
I think someone should make a sticky about midi-usb cables because it appears to be a common issue (I ran a big search over the weekend on my problem and loads of people have issues with it) - on the back of my 2box the in on the unit has an Out cable in it, and the Out cable has an IN cable in it, yet the machine is happy... logical huh?  :o
Title: Re: 2box + superior drummer + Mac + Hammer?
Post by: fishmonkey on July 02, 2012, 05:36:04 AM
yeah, it's bad labelling. they should write "IN TO COMPUTER" and "OUT FROM COMPUTER" on the cables.