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Title: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: Scottie on July 17, 2009, 10:03:15 AM
Hello Everyone

My name is Scott and i am from the company Hand in Hand Distribution in the UK. We have been working very closely with the guys at 2box, and have been involved with the project from day one.

There is a lot of speculation flying around at the moment, with regards to the DrumIt Five on other forums. Bengt at 2box sent us over a link to the new forum, and we thought it could be a good time to answer any questions that people might have.

So if anyone has any questions, please feel free to ask, and we will do our best to answer them.

Congrats on the new forum, hopefully it can grow in to a nice community  :)

Regards
Scott


Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: puttenvr on July 17, 2009, 11:03:01 AM
Hi Scotti

Great initiative to do this
There's only one question which intrigues us all: WHEN ?
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: Scottie on July 17, 2009, 11:52:18 AM
Hi puttenvr

I know this has been a question that everyone has been wondering. The release date has slipped a few times now, and we understand how frustrating this must be. We have been involved in the project from the start, which is coming up to 3 years now, and have seen it evolve from general ideas, to concept renders to actual hardware.

I truly think that if people realised just how much work goes in to something like this, they would think twice about starting a project of this size.
As people are probably aware 2box is a very small team at the moment, and there is only so much work that can be achieved. I know that they have literally been working around the clock to get the product here (as i have had many a conversation with Bengt at gone midnight!), but they wont compromise when it comes to quality, and there were a few bits that the team weren't happy with, so there were design tweaks that took place. We could have released the kits as they were, but we really do want to deliver something that will blow the end user away, and push the electronic drum market forward.

But i am please to say that we have everything now apart from the drum unit, which we should receive next week. The final hardware that we have here is looking great, and feels very natural to play! So for an ETA i would say that we are looking at the next 10 days for them to be in store. If we hear anything different to this, then we will let you know asap right here.

We would like to thank you all for your patience with this. I truly believe that once people play DrumIt Five, they will see just how much passion has gone in to this kit, and it will only get even better over time.

Thanks
Scott
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: tim1987 on July 17, 2009, 01:35:15 PM
Hello Scott,

I'm from Morecambe and mines on order with Promenade Music. I have actually have rang you a few times regarding the drumit, sorry for the hassle! I think it'll be arriving when I'm on holiday by the sounds of it. Something to look forward to when I get back.

I'm proper excited about this. I actually bought a Ddrum4SE 6 months ago to replace my TD 20, but the archaic software meant none of the signature sounds that I wanted would go on to the module, due to me been on Vista. It ended up going back. I hadn't heard of the drumit five back then.

I think it's best to wait and have a system that will really be great/reliable. I have been without drums for a few months now and am developing withdrawal symptoms! Haha.

I now have a Mac and assume that the Drumit five will be ok with this? I think I have read that it will be.

Is the idea to be able to put any drum sample on to the module, so eventually, a sample of a Yamaha Maple custom kit could be loaded on to the module etc?

Many Thanks
Tim

 
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: UC on July 17, 2009, 01:58:39 PM
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: tim1987 on July 17, 2009, 02:06:15 PM
Well, some people don't like Macs, but they are so much more reliable then Windows. Within 3 months I haven't had it crash on me once, which was unheard of with my other Vista laptop. ;D

I'm really just wanting a realistic acoustic sounding kit. The TD 20 just didn't have the sounds that I wanted, they just sounded too "electronic", and the COSM wasn't very convincing for me personally.
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: UC on July 17, 2009, 02:17:59 PM
I was only kidding - some of my best friends use Macs - and anyway, Vista doesn't count (it's in the same slop bucket as Windows ME :))
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: Scottie on July 17, 2009, 02:18:52 PM
Hi Tim

No problem at all with the calls, that is what we are here for :) Good choice with Promenade Music, they are a great store.

The idea will be that you can load any sound that you want in to the Unit. The files types that can be used are: wav, aiff and rex files. The unit has 4GB of on-board flash memory, so you have a very good size storage to play with.

At the Frankfurt Musikmesse show we had DW and Yamaha kits loaded in to the Unit, so you wouldn't have any problems loading a custom sample of a Yamaha Maple kit in.

The editor for the Unit will not be available as soon as the DrumIt Five ships. This will be a download off of the 2box website that will follow shortly after. I am hoping that we can give you a more solid release date very soon. This will be available for PC and Mac.

Thanks
Scott
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: drumbeats2003 on July 17, 2009, 09:12:15 PM
Hello Scott,

Thank you for following up with us here. Getting info has been spotty at times. I was curious is there is anything in the works to release the kit in the US or if Hand in Hand will ship one here? As a long time Ddrum user I've been eagerly following the product.

Sincerely,
Cliff
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: petercatherine on July 19, 2009, 06:31:40 PM
I have the same question about US distribution. Is this certain that the hardware is here already and the modules are almost ready? We have heard this a number of times and are hoping they will really be available soon.

Can they make some demos of the most mix friendly kits with grooves? I still have not been able to tell how the kits sounds from the videos. I am very interested in it,and need to know how well it will work in a band setting.

Peter
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: Scottie on July 20, 2009, 08:43:39 AM
Hello Scott,

Thank you for following up with us here. Getting info has been spotty at times. I was curious is there is anything in the works to release the kit in the US or if Hand in Hand will ship one here? As a long time Ddrum user I've been eagerly following the product.

Sincerely,
Cliff

Hi Cliff

With regards to the US, there are plans in place and we will be able to start giving out more details very soon. Sorry i can't give anymore information at this time, but rest assured things are moving forward with the US.
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: Scottie on July 20, 2009, 09:25:00 AM
I have the same question about US distribution. Is this certain that the hardware is here already and the modules are almost ready? We have heard this a number of times and are hoping they will really be available soon.

Can they make some demos of the most mix friendly kits with grooves? I still have not been able to tell how the kits sounds from the videos. I am very interested in it,and need to know how well it will work in a band setting.

Peter

Hi Peter

The details i have given about the hardware and modules is 100% correct, i have the production hardware sitting in front of me. Please be aware that this is not the same for the US though. We will be giving out more details soon on when it will be shipping.

New media will be available for the DrumIt Five. As you can probably imagine the team is currently flat out with other things at the moment, what with the launch of the kit so close now.
Once the new media is here i will give you a heads up on when it will be added to the website.

Have you heard the sound demo on the 2box website: http://www.2box.se/Downloads/Drumsolo.mp3 this should give you an idea of how the kit sounds, my opinion though is that it is sounding even better now.
The team at 2box have a long history when it comes to products that are used by the performing musician, so the DrumIt Five will perform very well no matter what situation you would like to use it in.

Regards
Scott
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: puttenvr on July 20, 2009, 01:20:12 PM
... i have the production hardware sitting in front of me. Please be aware that this is not the same for the US though.

The US will have different hardware ?  ;)
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: Scottie on July 20, 2009, 02:45:55 PM
... i have the production hardware sitting in front of me. Please be aware that this is not the same for the US though.

The US will have different hardware ?  ;)

Hi puttenvr

I should have been a bit more clear with what i was trying to say there. The US doesn't have any hardware sitting there at the moment. All hardware will be the same, just different voltages.  ;D
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: Perico on July 20, 2009, 10:59:15 PM
Hi Scottie,
You're talking about different voltage.
Is the DrumitFive 100-240V compatible?
Thx.
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: Scottie on July 22, 2009, 09:36:37 AM
Hey guys

Just to let you know that we are waiting for UPS to turn up today, with a new memory card which has the latest OS and new sounds loaded on it. We have our pre-production Unit open and waiting for it to be installed  ;D really excited to have a play around with some of the production sounds.

Our stock Units (modules) are being collected today from Sweden, so we should have them early next week....almost there now!!

Thanks
Scott
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: Scottie on July 22, 2009, 10:17:15 AM
Quickly took a few pictures of the production hardware for you. As you can see the pads still have their protective film on them.

Please note that the unit on this kit is from our pre-production one.

(http://www.handinhand.uk.net/pics/DrumIt_pic1.jpg)

(http://www.handinhand.uk.net/pics/DrumIt_pic3.jpg)

(http://www.handinhand.uk.net/pics/DrumIt_pic2.jpg)

Sorry for the quality of the pics, i took them on my phone, but i wanted to get you all some pictures  ;D

Scott
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: UC on July 22, 2009, 10:35:23 AM
They look f*cking fantastic.
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: Hellfire on July 22, 2009, 02:51:47 PM
Those look great! You know, that orange color looks pretty good. It kind of reminds me of the old Ddrum red. That bold "here I am, look at me" type look. :)
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: roel on July 22, 2009, 04:23:15 PM
Those look great! You know, that orange color looks pretty good. It kind of reminds me of the old Ddrum red. That bold "here I am, look at me" type look. :)

yes man thats right this set looks cool also i like the colour!!!
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: drumbeats2003 on July 22, 2009, 05:24:07 PM
Hi Scott,

As you mention getting the new sounds, I was curious about some of the sound details. I come from both a drumming & engineering background and was wondering what approach was taken in detailing sound. For example the ddrum 4 listed many of the drums as to company and series (tama artstar II, ludwig bb, ect), while packages like oceanway drums takes the more tech approach by detailing what mic was used, placement, ect.  Any idea what route 2box is taking?  I remember ddrum 4 was sampled using a Neve Capricorn digital console which probably would have been better served on an old 8078 or Api Legacy in my opinion.  I realize this is an incredibly small detail on the eve of what I hope is going to be something amazing, but curious all the same.

Cliff

ps. if anyone else would be interested I'm going to start a thread about how we can all exchange sounds with each other. Many of us have some great gear ranging from some great drums, various sizes, microphone preamps, compressors, eq's, ect. Since we can load samples easily we can now all get that fat Neve sound, or capture the Bonzo sound, ect. 
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: barriteau on July 22, 2009, 11:14:59 PM
Hi, it's nice to meet everybody here, it seems this will be a very active community, that's is easy to predict, nobody of us got "the thing" but we got a lot of post in few days...

Okay, just want to clarify a pair of doubts with Mr. Scott,

First, Mr. Perico asked about voltage and I think it is important, is the brain for EU only 220V or it can be switched to 110V too?

Second, pads in the default kit are three 10" (toms) and two 12" (snare and kick)?

Thanks in advance,

Juan
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: Scottie on July 23, 2009, 10:02:40 AM
As you mention getting the new sounds, I was curious about some of the sound details. I come from both a drumming & engineering background and was wondering what approach was taken in detailing sound. For example the ddrum 4 listed many of the drums as to company and series (tama artstar II, ludwig bb, ect), while packages like oceanway drums takes the more tech approach by detailing what mic was used, placement, ect.  Any idea what route 2box is taking?  I remember ddrum 4 was sampled using a Neve Capricorn digital console which probably would have been better served on an old 8078 or Api Legacy in my opinion.  I realize this is an incredibly small detail on the eve of what I hope is going to be something amazing, but curious all the same.

Hi Cliff

No detail is to small. If you have any questions like this, then please feel free to ask them, and i will do my best to answer them for you. Sometimes i wont be able to answer them straight off of the bat, but i will get some sort of answer for you one way or another.

Ok basically there is going to be a section added to the website soon, which will detail how the sounds were created. So please bear with us on this, as it is a pretty big task in itself, but the information will become available to you. Sorry i can't give you anymore information at this time, but once i know that it is going to be added to the site i will give you a heads up.

What I will say though, is that we received the new memory card yesterday with the latest OS (0.36) release and sounds, and i don't think anyone will be disappointed with the quality of sounds available at launch.
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: Scottie on July 23, 2009, 10:26:18 AM
First, Mr. Perico asked about voltage and I think it is important, is the brain for EU only 220V or it can be switched to 110V too?

Second, pads in the default kit are three 10" (toms) and two 12" (snare and kick)?

Thanks in advance,

Juan

Hi Juan

When you receive the kit you get 3 x 10" Tom, 1 x 12" Snare, 1 x 14" Kick, 2 x 14" Cymbals and the hihat is 10".

With regards to the power supply, you will not be able to switch it, you would have to acquire a 120 V power supply (120/18VAC 560mA with a 2,1x5.5x11mm plug). That is the official response i got from 2box.

Hope this helps
Thanks
Scott
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: cabalestra on July 23, 2009, 11:07:50 AM
What I will say though, is that we received the new memory card yesterday with the latest OS (0.36) release and sounds, and i don't think anyone will be disappointed with the quality of sounds available at launch.

Well, Scottie, you will do us all a huge favour if you could upload a couple of mp3s of the launch drum sets! We are dying of curiosity here  ::)
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: barriteau on July 23, 2009, 11:48:48 AM
First, Mr. Perico asked about voltage and I think it is important, is the brain for EU only 220V or it can be switched to 110V too?

Second, pads in the default kit are three 10" (toms) and two 12" (snare and kick)?

Thanks in advance,

Juan

Hi Juan

When you receive the kit you get 3 x 10" Tom, 1 x 12" Snare, 1 x 14" Kick, 2 x 14" Cymbals and the hihat is 10".

With regards to the power supply, you will not be able to switch it, you would have to acquire a 120 V power supply (120/18VAC 560mA with a 2,1x5.5x11mm plug). That is the official response i got from 2box.

Hope this helps
Thanks
Scott

Sure it helps, thanks a lot Scott, I'll stay around waiting for more pics  ;D
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: Scottie on July 23, 2009, 12:48:33 PM
What I will say though, is that we received the new memory card yesterday with the latest OS (0.36) release and sounds, and i don't think anyone will be disappointed with the quality of sounds available at launch.

Well, Scottie, you will do us all a huge favour if you could upload a couple of mp3s of the launch drum sets! We are dying of curiosity here  ::)

Hi Cabalestra

Leave it with us, because we want to try and get a couple of bits together for you guys mp3 wise.

I have also found out that the cymbals mute function now features decay when pressed briefly. Which is a nice little feature  ;D

Scott

Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: Remi on July 23, 2009, 03:50:25 PM
Hi Scotty,

When I buy a 2box set, I get the 3x10 and 1 12 inch?
If I want other sizes I have to add them to the default kit (which I already bought)
is it not possible to buy a kit with 2x 10 and 2x12 inch toms (for example)

Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: TrommelTheo on July 24, 2009, 04:25:07 AM
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: Alex on July 24, 2009, 07:38:45 AM
Hi Scott,

Can you tell me what the dimensions of the kit are once it is fully assembled and ready to play?

Need to plan where i'm going to keep mine and make more room if necessary.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: Alex on July 24, 2009, 07:56:05 AM
also is there any word yet as to the allocation of units to UK shops? I ordered from Andertons but there is some doubt as to whether enough kits will be allocated to them to cover all pre-orders.
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: Alex on July 27, 2009, 09:24:43 AM
I'm guessing my stock allocation question put you off from answering. Could you at least let me know the dimensions of the kit?
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: Scottie on July 27, 2009, 09:57:05 AM
Hi Scotty,

When I buy a 2box set, I get the 3x10 and 1 12 inch?
If I want other sizes I have to add them to the default kit (which I already bought)
is it not possible to buy a kit with 2x 10 and 2x12 inch toms (for example)


Hi Remi

Sorry this took a little while to answer, i have been helping 2box finish off a few things.

The default configuration when you purchase the kit will be 3 x 10" Tom, 1 x 12" Snare, 1 x 14" Kick, 2 x 14" Cymbals and the 10" Hihat. You will be able to purchase individual pads, but these wont be available straight away.

Regards
Scott
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: ber0ni on July 27, 2009, 10:01:43 AM
Hi...I'm from Finland & I was wondering do you sell 2box drums outside UK? If you do does it come with adapter for 240V?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: Scottie on July 27, 2009, 10:11:27 AM
I'm guessing my stock allocation question put you off from answering. Could you at least let me know the dimensions of the kit?

Hi Alex

Your stock allocation question didn't put me off at all. I have been helping 2box out with finishing a few other bits, which i have been working on all weekend. So i have only just had some free time this morning, to answer some questions.

I will be totally honest with you, the first shipments are not going to be huge, simply because we have to get the production line up to full speed. This will ramp up over the next few weeks, so we can start supplying retailers with larger quantities. We have a great relationship with Andertons, so will we try and get them as many kits as possible. Do you know what number you are on Andertons pre-order list?  

Also the way that we have the kit setup in the office (as pictured), the dimensions measure at: 4ft wide, 3.5ft high and 3ft deep. Please remember that you can position the arms how you like, so the width can vary depending on your particular setup.

Regards
Scott
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: Alex on July 27, 2009, 11:06:26 AM
Do you know what number you are on Andertons pre-order list?  

I've been told I am number 8 on the list, i'm not holding out too much hope to be one of the lucky people that get theirs first, it's a relief to know that more will be on the way soon though :)

thanks for the other info too, the kit should fit perfectly.
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: puttenvr on July 27, 2009, 03:47:21 PM
I will be totally honest with you, the first shipments are not going to be huge, simply because we have to get the production line up to full speed.

But are the shipped kits of full value, or are these in pre-production or in-between the first and final model kits?

BTW: I am not a businessman hence I probably don't understand why after all those months the production line still isn't up to full speed. Or: did 2Box wait until all things (bugs) were resolved? In that case we should have a perfect kit, now
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: Scottie on July 28, 2009, 10:25:06 AM

But are the shipped kits of full value, or are these in pre-production or in-between the first and final model kits?

BTW: I am not a businessman hence I probably don't understand why after all those months the production line still isn't up to full speed. Or: did 2Box wait until all things (bugs) were resolved? In that case we should have a perfect kit, now

Hi puttenvr

All the kits that have come in are full production models. There is no way that we would sell pre-production models as production models.

When it comes to the production line, 2box worked right up to the wire before it went in to full production models. It is then normal practice to have a few smaller runs to make sure that everything is up to the standard that you have set. Then my understanding is that you gradually take it up from there to full capacity.
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: Peter W on July 28, 2009, 08:08:24 PM
This is another request for audio or video demos of clean studio grooves. I still don't know if this kit has a full sound in the kick and snare and if the hi hat works well. This will determine for me whether to uyse VST's with my Yamaha kit or buy this kit.

Also,will this be in the US before 2010?

Peter
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: The D on July 29, 2009, 01:40:25 PM
Hi Scott,

just a quick one, have the modules arrived as expected?

Please don't say they're delayed  :o

Thanks.
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: Hellfire on July 29, 2009, 05:24:17 PM
It sounds pretty close to happening, but is there anyone who has the kit yet! I realize that the week is not over yet, but I didn't know if they would arrive before the end of the week or not. I think a lot of people are going to be watching to see if these really show up this week. If they don't I think it is going to turn a lot of people away from 2Box.  People can only handle so many delays. Just my two cents. I can honestly tell you, I'm looking forward to the day that 2Box makes it to the states. Here's to the kits making it this week!
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: Scottie on July 29, 2009, 07:51:45 PM
Hi Scott,

just a quick one, have the modules arrived as expected?

Please don't say they're delayed  :o

Thanks.

Hey The D

Sorry for the delay in a reply......was a very busy day today!

Well i am pleased to say that our shipment of units turned up today at 4pm. It came in to late to go out, but they will be shipping out tomorrow. So they should be with the retailers on Friday.

(http://www.handinhand.uk.net/pics/DrumIt_pic4.jpg)

I wouldn't give you guys false information. It serves no purpose for me to do that. I want people to trust that the info i am giving them is correct at the time. :)

Regards
Scott




Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: Travis182 on July 29, 2009, 08:29:48 PM
Ahhhh Scottie thats awesome to see the units have finally arrived!! Nice to see some correct info for once. Thanks for posting this up  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: The D on July 29, 2009, 08:31:55 PM
Thanks for that Scott, just what i wanted to hear.

Once again, my fingers are crossed hoping i'm lucky enough to get mine on friday.

May the drum delivery gods smile upon me. ;D ;D ;D

Daz
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: TrommelTheo on July 29, 2009, 09:26:14 PM
who will donate 2.000 Euro to me? *rofl*

*wannahave wannahave wannahave wannahave wannahave wannahave wannahave wannahave wannahave wannahave wannahave wannahave wannahave wannahave wannahave wannahave*

Theo
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: Scottie on July 29, 2009, 09:46:34 PM
This is another request for audio or video demos of clean studio grooves. I still don't know if this kit has a full sound in the kick and snare and if the hi hat works well. This will determine for me whether to uyse VST's with my Yamaha kit or buy this kit.

Also,will this be in the US before 2010?

Peter

Hi Peter

There will be new media on the way, but we wanted to wait until we had the final production to do some more video's.
At the Musikmesse shows we had Janis Heftrich as our demonstrator, all the other videos posted are drummer's that came to the stand, and we asked if it was ok to take some video of them playing, for people to see and hear how the kit sounds. Tony Liotta was really taken with the kit, and offered to do a few shows for us which was a great honor.

Each step can be pretty long when you are starting a new company with a small team. I think 2box have been pretty open with people when it has come to different information. I know that Bengt has always given people the latest info at the time, when it came to shipping dates.

Unfortunately unforeseen development adjustments cropped up, which caused small delays. Companies like Roland, Yamaha and Alesis have all been around for quite some time, so they have multiple people in place to take care of different aspects of a products development cycle. As 2box grows as a company more people will be added to the team, so that things can be moved forward more rapidly.

As for the US i don't have a time frame for when the DrumIt Five will be available, simply because as you know things can change very quickly. I will assure you though that things are moving along, and hopefully we will be able to announce when the kit will ship soon.

I hope this maybe answers a few of your questions.

Many thanks
Scott
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: Kiabosh on July 29, 2009, 10:17:06 PM
Scottie,
Great news that the units have arrived.
Can you tell us how many? You did say that production is not at full capacity yet, does this mean that these things are still going to be hard to get hold of for some time yet?
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: wbrs on July 30, 2009, 07:45:43 PM
Do you know of any plans to add adat out in the future
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: Scottie on July 31, 2009, 04:55:11 PM
Do you know of any plans to add adat out in the future

Hi wbrs

There are no plans at the moment to add ADAT to this unit, and i don't ever see this happening in the future.
I will send this suggestion over to the guys at 2box, as this could be something for future products.

Thanks
Scott
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: drumbeats2003 on August 03, 2009, 02:09:46 AM
Have to say, I'm surprised we're not getting a lot of user feedback on here about the kits.  So far all I can tell is they're more complex than expected, seems to be some sort of hi hat issue, have a noisy bass drum pad, but sound great thus far. Anyone know of any places that have a kit available that will ship to the US?

Also, I don't mean to cause trouble, but since ADAT is a dead format I don't think it necessary to include that interface.
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: puttenvr on August 03, 2009, 05:17:32 AM
I'm surprised we're not getting a lot of user feedback on here about the kits.

There are only 2 lucky users with a kit
so what can we expect?
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: tom on August 05, 2009, 10:36:50 PM
Hey scottie,
today some further questions came up:
Have you already had a chance to check the MIDI functions of the drum brain?
Is it possible to play back a given sequence by sending it to the MIDI-In port while recording the MIDI-Events coming out of the MIDI-Out (by using an external sequencer device e.g. someones personal computer running a MIDI-recorder)? I need to know that since I'm currently working on a software program that should help to analyze the precision of one's playing (this could be especially useful for practising). Is MIDI-Thru always on or always off (the manual only sais "Thru is not functional")?

Thanks
 Tom
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: Scottie on August 06, 2009, 10:53:24 AM
Hey Tom

I haven't had a chance to play around with the MIDI yet. So leave this with me and i will see what is possible for you.

Thanks
Scott
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: carlomagno on August 08, 2009, 08:28:09 PM
drumlt five sample rate 44.1khz 24 bits?
have a click?
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: wbrs on August 09, 2009, 02:02:39 AM
Have to say, I'm surprised we're not getting a lot of user feedback on here about the kits.  So far all I can tell is they're more complex than expected, seems to be some sort of hi hat issue, have a noisy bass drum pad, but sound great thus far. Anyone know of any places that have a kit available that will ship to the US?

Also, I don't mean to cause trouble, but since ADAT is a dead format I don't think it necessary to include that interface.
How is adat a dead interface? It is the most common way to send up to 8 channels of digital audio.

Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: NeilC on August 10, 2009, 08:37:32 AM
Have to say, I'm surprised we're not getting a lot of user feedback on here about the kits.  So far all I can tell is they're more complex than expected, seems to be some sort of hi hat issue, have a noisy bass drum pad, but sound great thus far. Anyone know of any places that have a kit available that will ship to the US?

Also, I don't mean to cause trouble, but since ADAT is a dead format I don't think it necessary to include that interface.
How is adat a dead interface? It is the most common way to send up to 8 channels of digital audio.



I think the comment was referred as hardly anyone uses ADAT anymore, I think Hard Disk solutions have become the norm (cheper, easier to maintain etc) I think if anything, optical (SPDIF or Toslink) outs would be the way forward...
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: wbrs on August 10, 2009, 09:32:37 AM
I have 2 adat lightpipe in and outs on my RME fireface audio interface each will send and receive 8 channels of 24 bit digital audio. This isn't an adat digital tape machine it is a format for moving digital audio. I would like to move the 6 outs on the 2box module on one adat lightpipe cord to the adat lightpipe inputs on my RME fireface keeping it in the digital domain avoiding all the problems that you can get from noisy audio cables. If you've heard of the muse receptor besides an Ethernet connection they offer an adat out. If you had a digital mixer live wouldn't it be a lot better to have only 1 cable to send all 6 of the out puts from the 2box module to the board? If you wanted to keep signal in digital domain till it hit the converters in the end listeners playback divice you could .
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: Scottie on August 10, 2009, 02:33:25 PM
drumlt five sample rate 44.1khz 24 bits?
have a click?


Hi carlomango

DrumIt Five doesn't have a click at the moment, but it will have in the update.

Thanks
Scott

Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: wbrs on August 12, 2009, 02:27:10 AM
Scott, is there anything you can tell us about the rubber heads? Is there PS on them , what they will they cost,when they will be available etc?
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: Scottie on August 12, 2009, 09:10:57 PM
Hey wbrs

I will see if i can get an update from the guys at 2box.

Thanks
Scott
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: fishmonkey on August 16, 2009, 11:19:22 PM
riiiiiiiiiiight...
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: HansT on September 02, 2009, 10:41:05 PM
Hi Scottie,

Hans here, joining you guys from Norway  :)
I've been playing on my Ddrum4se kit for some years now and consider to buy the new 2box kit (that in my opinion sounds better than any other electronic kit on the market today).

So, I have just a few questions:
1) Will there be any legs available for the bassdrumpad, so it can also be used without the rack in the future ?
2) I'm using my Ddrum mounted in a 19 inch rack (12 unit with mixer on top), so I only have to connect the trigger cables on live gigs while rest of the cables are hidden inside the rack. Can the 2box module be mounted in a 19 inch rack like Ddrum 4?

3) Can the 2box play standard midifiles and be used as a sequenser song player for connecting with external soundmodules?

4) Is the 2box compatible with roland pads and Ddrum pads/triggers?


Thanks !

Hans
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: Perico on September 03, 2009, 11:50:42 PM
Hi,
like others I'm waiting for reviews and tests about the kit from users.
Of course I would like to read more and more. :)
Do you think we gonna have soon the opportunity to read some review by a pro drummer in a forum, a website or even a magazine?
Thx.
Ps : and sorry for my english, I'm another french! :D
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: puttenvr on September 04, 2009, 07:23:11 AM
We are pro drummers, aren't we?  :-\
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: Perico on September 04, 2009, 09:13:14 PM
Hi Puttenvr!
I didn't want to offend anybody here. :)
I really don't know who's pro and who's not.
What is certain is that I'm not a pro! :)
All your reviews and feedbacks are very interesting.
Actually I wonder why there is not any review about the Drumit5 in any drums magazine. Is it too soon?
Otherwise I really like this kit (what I ear).
I hope I'll be able to buy one in October. (I live in Canada)
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: UC on September 04, 2009, 10:28:19 PM
We are pro drummers, aren't we?  :-\

Speak for yourself ...I've only ever been paid for gigs in beer :)

I've been drumming for 22 years and geeking out with electronic music for 15, had my DDrum 4 for nearly 10 years...which is basically why I'm a bit fanatical about the drumit 5 :) It's much more than just a hobby though.

For me, and I'm guessing quite a lot of prospective 2box owners, drumming / making music is a love, not a career - by god though, I'm not saying you can't do both - and I'm truly jealous of anyone who does :D
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: puttenvr on September 05, 2009, 07:08:52 AM
I think the first reviews in music magazines will follow soon

For what they are worth...
Don't forget those magazines need to please advertisers and they generally don't have the opporunity to test a drumkit during a long period of time. We have.
So this forum, with all those different users, is much of much more value
Although it's sometimes difficult to distinguished opinions and facts.
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: wbrs on September 08, 2009, 08:42:15 AM
Scott, when the pads can be bought separately do you know if you can use the 14 in pads for snare or tom?
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: Scottie on September 08, 2009, 08:35:40 PM
Scott, when the pads can be bought separately do you know if you can use the 14 in pads for snare or tom?

Hey wbrs

There won't be any 14" snare and tom pads available on the next shipment. I'm not sure what the current status is on the larger pads, but i will ask the guys at 2box and let you know.

Thanks
Scott
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: ericndrum on September 10, 2009, 04:25:57 PM
Hello,
I am french and excuse me for my bad english ! I just have acquire my drum it five and i would like to know if a metronome is included in the kit, and if it exists how using it.
Thanks
Eric
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: HM on September 10, 2009, 06:18:43 PM
Hi Eric,
Scottie answered the metronome question earlier in this thread:


DrumIt Five doesn't have a click at the moment, but it will have in the update.

Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: ericndrum on September 10, 2009, 06:48:09 PM
thank you for your help
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: ericndrum on September 10, 2009, 07:34:36 PM
Hello,
I would like to know if it is possible to save the modifications made in the mix page about the adjustment of the volumes. I believed that it was in the preference page when you put the save "on" or "auto" but it is not that. If I switch off and I come back it is like the first time.
Can someone help me ?
Thanks
Eric
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: Scottie on September 23, 2009, 11:10:22 AM
Hello,
I would like to know if it is possible to save the modifications made in the mix page about the adjustment of the volumes. I believed that it was in the preference page when you put the save "on" or "auto" but it is not that. If I switch off and I come back it is like the first time.
Can someone help me ?
Thanks
Eric

Hi Eric

Sorry i totally missed your post here. At the moment you can't save the settings on the mix page. I am just waiting to hear if this will be in the update.

Thanks
Scott
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: ericndrum on October 01, 2009, 07:37:42 AM
Hello,
I still have questions, can someone help me ?
1 - About the memory - It stays only 9% memory and I still did not had anything, I think that it will be a problem when I will want to had sounds or songs. Can someone tell me if I will have to delete data, that's what I don't want, or if it is possible to extend the memory ?
2 - About the songs - Can we put only wav or can we put mp3 or something else ?
3 - About the kits - For the moment, there are 100 different kits, I would like to make my own kits. Do I have to replace the existing ones or can I had some, 101, 102, ... If it is possible how can I do ?
Thank you for your help
Eric
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: NeilC on October 01, 2009, 11:21:13 AM
1. The unit is basically full on opening from the box (samples/system data/.wavs...) deleting the wavs will free up a lot of space, and also the samples will. But don't delete samples you don't want. ie, i KNOW there a samples on there I will never use! Cannot extend memory but future algorithm will be able to compress samples more without loss of quality.

2. wav only at the moment, I don't know if mp3 functionality will be added later. Although you can attach an external player.

3. Not sure about this, I assume you change an existing kit with sounds you want. Again from my point of view some will NEVER be used by me....

Hope that helps.
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: ericndrum on October 01, 2009, 12:28:48 PM
Thank you for your help
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: roel on October 05, 2009, 04:01:08 PM
when we can expect the new update?
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: Scottie on October 06, 2009, 11:28:42 AM
when we can expect the new update?

Hi roel

The aim is this month for version 1.0. If i hear any different i will let you all know.

Thanks
Scott
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: Alex on October 06, 2009, 11:56:50 AM
when should the next batch of kits be in the UK for distribution?
Title: How to get one in Moscow
Post by: pls on October 06, 2009, 07:11:36 PM
Hello,
Does anybody know how to get Drumit 5 from Russia? Actually nobody wants to send it to Moscow as well as local distributor doesn't respond. So I feel like I am living on another planet )
Do you know the way to buy Drumit with delivery to Moscow? Or who can do that?
Thank you, still hope that it is possible
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: thijs on October 08, 2009, 02:59:28 PM
It would be great if it would be possible to record the drums directly over usb. Are the guys at 2box planning to turn the brain into a sound card?
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: thijs on October 09, 2009, 01:35:38 PM
And on a related note, will it be possible use the brain as a midi device over usb?
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: thijs on October 14, 2009, 01:14:33 PM
Any word on the midi over usb thing?

I have a 5 meter long usb cable. It would be nice to know if I need to buy midi cables or have to wait for a few weeks for the new software..
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: Tristan on October 30, 2009, 11:27:58 AM
So I just heard from Andertons that it's now going to be early December before any more kits arrive in the UK.  Can anyone at Hand in Hand confirm this?  Is there any possiblity of kits arriving sooner?
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: roel on October 31, 2009, 10:32:17 PM
So where is the update 1.0 unbelievable..... :animal:
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: TrommelTheo on October 31, 2009, 10:36:45 PM
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: wbrs on October 31, 2009, 11:41:34 PM
Let us know how that works out.
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: puttenvr on November 02, 2009, 03:47:29 PM
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: TrommelTheo on November 02, 2009, 05:52:15 PM
puttenvr, did you already tested it? :animal:

Theo
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: Travis182 on November 02, 2009, 08:31:21 PM
Theo have you not listened to the demos?
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: TrommelTheo on November 02, 2009, 08:57:07 PM
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: Travis182 on November 02, 2009, 09:13:23 PM
Theo it was simply a question, thats all.

But to be honest the reason i ask is, if the kit sounds better in real life (which i don't think it will) do you really think the likes of Alesis are going to post up bad demos? i don't think so.

Calm down bud, i don't blame you for trying both, at the end of the day it's all personal preference.

Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: TrommelTheo on November 03, 2009, 05:18:25 AM
travis, sorry, you misunderstoud me, that should not get an angry Post  ;D I better put some smiles in it *lol*  ;)

Theo
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: nonoduweb on November 17, 2009, 07:13:44 AM
Hi...

Ok! I got the new update 1.0 and it seems to work correctly on my kit.  :D

What is the file format "dsnd", and how can we make our own samples library in the module? Is there a software to do that?

Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: airdrummer on November 17, 2009, 08:16:36 AM
A store told me there's no software allows us to make our own kits yet.

Just have to wait...

 
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: yoyo on March 15, 2010, 01:12:50 AM
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: UC on March 15, 2010, 10:33:11 AM
Salut Yoyo, bienvenue au forum :)

I think your post might be better in a new thread or answers might get lost!

Does ezdrummer respond okay to a midi keyboard? Is there latency?

Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: yoyo on March 15, 2010, 11:43:18 AM
hi merci! well in fact i dont really now how this forum running so i post my question there...

yes ezdrummer is okay no latency or 4ms not much in fact when we just recording midi without ezdrummer midi signal is good no latency  could point out with cubase when im playing there no latency with what i am hearing (midi sound) when i play during recording but a least when we listening from cubase what i'v played there totaly another thing its seems had another hit stroke timing is not repected as if cubase was lagging only on the drums part..this is quite strange with my sound engineer we're still on it ..
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: UC on March 15, 2010, 12:01:17 PM
That does sound strange...I get nothing like that in BFD2.

Are you able to play the 2box drums via Midi

Have you tried any tools like MidiOx (http://www.midiox.com/) to see what messages / CCs are happening?

Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: fishmonkey on March 15, 2010, 12:04:08 PM
is the timing between individual drum hits off, or are all the drum hits lagging by the same amount?
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: yoyo on March 15, 2010, 02:14:23 PM
in fact we found one of the problem ,that was an option that automatly change note to keep them out (cantification automatic) so we turn off and its ok but now we had a really seriously probleme with the mapage cause mapage is not good at all ez drummer and cubase dont have the same mapage we've tried to change in to box note (node section) but nothing is correct excepte kick  when i turn to 36  its ok we heard the kick on ezdrummer but there a big probleme with 3zone cymbale we only can atrubuate one only note (dom's note ) and its will declin the next note for bow and eidge but in ez mapage is eidge ,bow and dom .so its could not work ...any one solution to that pb??EXECPTE  change mappage of the both log :ezdrummer and cubase..BECOSE i dont know how to do that ,and more than this i dont think that s the software who had to change (change software mapage) for any of diferent e drum..?
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: yoyo on March 15, 2010, 02:16:59 PM
That does sound strange...I get nothing like that in BFD2.

Are you able to play the 2box drums via Midi

Have you tried any tools like MidiOx (http://www.midiox.com/) to see what messages / CCs are happening?



I DONT  try midi ox ,but what for just to see what is the mapage?
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: yoyo on March 15, 2010, 02:28:16 PM
ANY ONE  could explain what the diference between CC1 et CC4 for the charleston i never managed to have an open hit hat sound and and foot hit and close hit hat sound in midi ..
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: ShanMac on May 08, 2010, 05:26:31 AM
Hi,

My name is Shannon and I am from Australia. 

After tons of research comparing Yamaha, Alesis, Roland, Pearl (epro live) and 2Box, I am now at the point of purchasing a kit.  I have spent the last 10 years playing the Roland gear and am now ready to venture to the dark side!!!!

I have narrowed my selection to the Yamaha DTX950 and 2Box Drumit Five for the reason that you are able to easily download your own samples into the brain.  The 2Box is the obvious choice for this reason, but I do have the following questions:

1.     I hear the rack is moderately unstable.  Will the hardware clamps etc transfer to a Roland rack?  Has anyone done this?  How does the kick trigger and module mount?
2.     Does the module allow you to apply effects/compression etc to the samples once downloaded?  If I have to apply effects to the original samples, then reverbs etc would not sound natural as they would be retriggered.
3.     Is it a one-shot trigger per sample or new sample with each trigger?  Can I select a trigger option?
4.     Polyphony?  how many notes and will it cut off samples?
5.     Not much has been said around the electronic sound banks.  The acoustic sounds I have heard are quite impressive, but are there many electronic sounds (808, 909.....but not cheesy car horns)
6.     Anyone on this  forum from Australia?  If you don't mind me asking, what price range did you pay?


I am sure a 2Box forum will help me get over the final hurdles.

Thanks
Shannon
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: puttenvr on May 08, 2010, 07:07:28 AM
I have narrowed my selection to the Yamaha DTX950 and 2Box Drumit Five for the reason that you are able to easily download your own samples into the brain.
The Yamaha module has very limited sampling memory

Quote
1.     I hear the rack is moderately unstable.  Will the hardware clamps etc transfer to a Roland rack?  Has anyone done this?  How does the kick trigger and module mount?
The rack isn't unstable at all. That's a persistent rumour. Nevertheless the snare mount and hihat stand both can be improved. Some 2Box users did change these parts, as do many drummers with their (other) electronic and acoustic kits.

Quote
2.     Does the module allow you to apply effects/compression etc to the samples once downloaded?
Not at this moment. But 2Box is working on effects, which can be added due to the open system

Quote
If I have to apply effects to the original samples, then reverbs etc would not sound natural as they would be retriggered.
I don't get this one. But I should add effects outside the module. Also my sound engineer would appreciate this. Effects on samples always obscure the sound

Quote
5.     Not much has been said around the electronic sound banks.  The acoustic sounds I have heard are quite impressive, but are there many electronic sounds (808, 909.....but not cheesy car horns)
There are a few electronic sounds but the emphasis is on the acoustic sounds. BUT: you can put any sound in the module you want. That's the big plus to other devices.
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: fishmonkey on May 08, 2010, 07:22:31 AM
pricing in Oz is around the $4000 mark. not the best, but what can you do? it depends how important having a local warranty is to you.
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: ShanMac on May 08, 2010, 09:29:29 AM
Thanks for the responses Puttenvr and fishmonkey.

Sorry for the persistent questions:
1.  I assume the 4 gig memory is inclusive of the sounds preloaded and not additional.  
2.  Is there a limit to the individual sample length possible?
3.  Further to the question on effects/compression, have 2box indicated in any way that the addition of effects is a projected possibility?  I like the concept that the drum kit is a self contained unit and that I do not have to cart a laptop (to trigger sounds) and an effects unit.  Being a control freak, i like to apply effects before the sound engineer gets them as often they may be an important feature of the kit sound and not an embellishment.
4.  Australian retail pricing is around the $4700AUD mark.  I am going next weekend to trial (and hopefully buy) with a price of $3700.  Sounds like a reasonable deal then (thanks fishmonkey).
5.  As for the ealier triggering/effects question, if I apply a reverb effect to a sample what happens when I trigger it multiple times.  Does the sample trigger first, then when triggered again (before completing the sample length) start the sample again - or - does the first sample continue to play and subsequent triggers of the same sample will layer over the top......mmmm....I hope I am making sense.  Like a monophonic or polyphonic sample.

Thanks again
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: puttenvr on May 08, 2010, 10:58:59 AM
1. It's inclusive the preloaded samples, but you can delete them all (if u want) and start from scratch with a blanc 4 gb card
2. why would you?
3. 2Box announced a tap delay with the next software. At this time no reverbs. As I said before: sound engineers in general don't like when you add fx to the drum sounds. They want to control it them selves. Another point to consider is that I never saw a built in effect (in any synth, sampler or drum module) who was of equal quality to external units. External effect units (from a certain price point) are always better. Another point for sound engineers to use those fx and not the internal fx
5. If you add an effect to the wav file the unit will (re)trigger the whole sound over and over again. Why not? But perhaps I still don't understand your question
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: fishmonkey on May 08, 2010, 02:45:45 PM
the definitive answer to question 5 is not clear, i would email 2box directly and ask them.

some users have reported polyphony issues in this thread:

http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php/topic,345.0.html

however, it is not yet known if this is an inherent limitation of the 2Box brain or current firmware, or if it is due to the 3rd party sound editor tool not constructing the multisamples in the required format...
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: ShanMac on May 11, 2010, 05:44:42 AM
Puttenvr and Fishmonkey, thanks again for your help.  I have emailed 2Box directly to see if they can answer my questions.  I will hopefully hear from them soon.

Are you in AUS fishmonkey?  If so, whereabouts? 

Do you have a Drumit Five and if so how do you find it?  I am in Melbourne, although, heading off to Geelong (with the wife and kids) this weekend to test drive a Drumit with the prospect of buying.  Prices seem to be coming down from the $4800 originally quoted.

In my mind I have already purchased it......
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: fishmonkey on May 11, 2010, 08:20:41 AM
hey, i'm in Sydney...

i would not pay any more than $4000, which is still a healthy profit for the distributor + store...

from what i understand the RRP was initially set by the distributor at $4800, but was lowered to around $4400.

yes i do have a kit, and it's very good. there are some issues, but it sounds way better than any Yamaha or Roland kit i have tried...
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: ShanMac on May 11, 2010, 12:25:11 PM
Just got a email from Bengt answering my questions.  All is good on the technical front, not to mention some of the revisions coming in the next update.  Looking forward to a play on the weekend (with a pocket of cash ready to buy and take home!).  I'll let you know how I go.

Thanks again!
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: srecko on September 15, 2010, 11:50:07 PM
Hi! I have roland pdx pads, cy8 cymbals and vh11 hi hat with roland td4 module! I want to buy 2 box module, because  the sounds are great, so my question is:
Are roland pads compatible with 2 box module?
Thanks!
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: puttenvr on September 16, 2010, 05:13:56 AM
I don't think the hihat is compatible
You can try the cymbals whether both the cup and edge will work or not
Tom pads: no problem

PS this question is asked frequently. Perhaps we can make a sticky topic with a list of what is compatible and not. Moderator?
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: roel on September 16, 2010, 07:05:07 PM
2 questions/and again...

1: spareparts???where can I get a extra cymbal or tom? and when?
2: when can we get that mk2 rack? and will it be a complete rack?

Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: Mixmaster5 on September 27, 2010, 10:22:07 PM
Hi Scottie

Im new on the forum so I have some questions:
where can you write your problems or stuff like this and everybody can see my message and reply on it?
do you need an audio interface to recored with 2box or is it possible to connect with USB and record on my software(logic)
Why 2box doesent have replacement pads and cymbals?

Pleaaasss Answer Thankx  ;D
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: hefu on September 29, 2010, 01:48:17 PM
Since the drumit5 does not have to host Midi in the usb, you will have to use a Midi-interface, in order to use the drumit5 as a Midi-controller.

To get the sound in the computer I strongly advice you to buy an audio-interface.
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: ddrum4se on October 27, 2010, 10:47:28 AM
Hi Scott,

I purchased my ddrum4 se with cast precision pads from Hand in Hand and your good self back in 2002.

Its still going strong - funny old World aint it?
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: Scottie on October 27, 2010, 10:58:52 AM
Hi Scott,

I purchased my ddrum4 se with cast precision pads from Hand in Hand and your good self back in 2002.

Its still going strong - funny old World aint it?

Hi ddrum4se

It really is a small world indeed  ;) I am pleased to hear that your ddrum4 se is still going strong though, it is still a fantastic kit.

If you have any questions regarding the DrumIt Five, please do not hesitate to send me a PM, and i will do my best to answer them for you.

Good to hear from you.
Scott
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: husum10 on October 27, 2010, 04:06:27 PM
I'VE RECENTLY BOUGHT A DRUMIT 2ND GENERATION KIT WHICH I'M PLEASED WITH.
BUT - TODAY ONE OF MY CYMBALS BROKE DOWN - ONLY THE CUP/CENTER PART RESPONDS +
THE DRUMIT CONSOLE STARTED TO "JAM" - DOESN'T RESPOND TO ANYTHING - ONLY TO BEING SHUT DOWN.
OS.V. 1.10, BIOS. 1.34.
MMMM NO SO GOOD.... I'VE BEEN PLAYING IT WITH A PAIR OF 7A STICKS - WHICH SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO ANY HARM. :(
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: puttenvr on November 05, 2010, 08:15:46 AM
Please don't double post
http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php/topic,2.195.html
Title: Metronome...?
Post by: ChrisP9 on December 01, 2010, 02:09:22 PM
Hey,

I should maybe do a little more research and reading about this but struggling to figure out how to go around using the Metronome...
Any quick advice just to start using it straight away?
I can see it in the UNIT-METR section...

Cheers x
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: NeilC on December 01, 2010, 02:16:04 PM
Manual, dude..

http://www.2box.se/Downloads/DrumIt-User-Manual.pdf

Pretty straight forward as far as I know, there is a 'Play' button and Metronome options on each kit page... just choose tempo and go from there, never really used it, but when I have its all been done from the initial page after turning on
Title: Metronome
Post by: ChrisP9 on December 01, 2010, 02:33:40 PM
Cheers,

Looks like my set up is different from the maunual somehow.
Iv managed to find it now though, will play about with it.

Thanks
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: black_sonix on December 01, 2010, 07:13:45 PM
I know this has probably been asked a million times and probably gonna get flamed for this but...

When are extra parts (Cymbal pads mostly) going to be available?

I bought a MKII kit in September/October and have been ringing Wembley Drum Centre every week since and still no definite answer.

I want to use my 2box kit to record my next album, using Toontrack SD2.0 but need at least another 2 cymbals adding.

Paul.
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: roel on December 29, 2010, 01:30:47 PM
Question on the 2box website (www.2box.se) we can hear a demo from the echo kit, I don't see a kit cald echo in my 2box module.Wich kitnumber is the echo kit?
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: puttenvr on December 29, 2010, 03:28:34 PM
It's in the orginal drumit settings file
http://2box.se/Pages/os-updates.html
You can download it, but beware not to overwrite your own kits
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: roel on December 30, 2010, 09:56:36 AM
ok thanx puttenvr its done.

Does anybody know where I can order kit Toy cymbals? what's the email adres of Mike from Kit Toys?
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: johnnycajon on December 22, 2011, 08:54:54 PM
Hi, wonder if you can help.
I have an issue with certain kits going silent after a few seconds.It's just that the unit crashes and is fine if restored by switching off and back on.
I'm told in reply to a post (See Crashes - General Forum) that there where some faulty SD cards in Units  1050 - 1500. My serial number is 1137. Could I have a problem unit?
Cheers for any help.

Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: roel on December 11, 2012, 07:13:20 PM
Today I saw the new Mark Drum Yes on their site, the samples they are using sounds really good.
I was wondering if you can use those samples in our 2box module?

There is a kit that you can download from the site:

http://www.markdrum.it/Danny%20Gottlieb%20Signature%20drum%20kits?&preview=997cb50546165631a415355c7b570106

Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: UC on March 01, 2014, 05:20:49 PM
Time I tidied up a bunch of threads I think - if anyone would like me to keep this thread stickied please post now or forever hold your piece!
Title: Re: Anyone got any questions? (Hand in Hand Distribution - UK)
Post by: enrico on May 13, 2014, 03:18:42 PM
Yes ,
Hello from Italy,

I'm looking for the new rubber heads (as the one seen on adam ditch vid playing the 2box)
can you give me any indication where to buy them if they are available?
thanks
enrico