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2Box Drumit 5 Forum => Sharing drum sounds - wav / aiff / rex => Topic started by: peanutismint on November 27, 2014, 10:28:39 PM

Title: Free 'world's deepest sampled drum kit' (1.9GB) - Can this be 2box-ified??
Post by: peanutismint on November 27, 2014, 10:28:39 PM
Check this out:

http://bedroomproducersblog.com/2014/11/27/deepest-sampled-drum-kit/

QuoteSM MegaReaper Drumkit is an impressive free multi-sampled acoustic drum kit sound library, featuring up to 127 velocity layers and 4 round robin layers per articulation! The kit is completely free to download and use.

The drum kit was sampled by Scott Mclean, aka SMM, the same kind and generous REAPER user who brought us the brilliant Free 1960s Ludwig Oyster Blue Pearl Drum Kit not that long ago. Once again, the mappings were created by Suleiman, aka Burzukh, who did an outstanding job at turning this enormous drum sample library into a playable REAPER instrument.

Anybody know if this can be converted into a 2Box kit? Possibly with SDSE??
Title: Re: Free 'world's deepest sampled drum kit' (1.9GB) - Can this be 2box-ified??
Post by: rush1234 on November 29, 2014, 12:10:11 AM
i tryed to download it ,, but no way server is overloaded.. and no it wil not work with SDSE
Lustar has to update the software for it ,
i dont knowe what kind of samples the are , if the have the wave format maybe load it direct in the Dsound tool or in the 2box editor sofware  so the editor render it in to the dsnd format ,, but i am not sure
Title: Re: Free 'world's deepest sampled drum kit' (1.9GB) - Can this be 2box-ified??
Post by: peanutismint on November 29, 2014, 12:19:48 AM
Cool. I've been in touch with lustar; says he's already downloaded it :-) And is hoping it can work with his other Drumit Manager software with a bit of tweaking....
Title: Re: Free 'world's deepest sampled drum kit' (1.9GB) - Can this be 2box-ified??
Post by: Lustar on November 29, 2014, 02:22:42 PM
It's nice that there is an alternative to DrumMicA as a free VST/Kontakt kit (with enough samples). I will look at adding support for the Kontakt version. For unsupported VSTs and Kontakt libraries it's always possible to export using SDSE as long as the mapping matches the Superior Drummer 2 mapping. If there is no Superior Drummer mapping setting it will work for the kick, snare and some toms most of the time.
Title: Re: Free 'world's deepest sampled drum kit' (1.9GB) - Can this be 2box-ified??
Post by: fcvapor05 on December 10, 2014, 02:51:26 AM
I spent some time on this, and created .dsnd's for each drum.  The crash and ride cymbals sound pretty good.  For the hihat, I have the 2box on my desk, not hooked up, so I can only hear the open sound, and it sounds good too.

For the other drums, however, there's a problem I don't know how to fix.  All of the tom, snare, and kick samples have extremely low levels- when the 2box editor processes them and I click a layer to hear it in the software, no sound is played, and the level shown for each layer ranges from -99 dB to -93 dB.

Seems like the samples aren't dumping into the editor correctly... anyone know a fix for this?
Title: Re: Free 'world's deepest sampled drum kit' (1.9GB) - Can this be 2box-ified??
Post by: peanutismint on December 10, 2014, 03:08:19 AM
I don't, but hopefully others might....??

Kudos for getting stuck in and making some sample files!
Title: Re: Free 'world's deepest sampled drum kit' (1.9GB) - Can this be 2box-ified??
Post by: fcvapor05 on December 12, 2014, 02:44:47 AM
I can try and share the ones I've made if anyone wants to try and use them.  I don't know how to host files but I can email them to someone who does.

This was my first attempt at making .dsnds so I can't guarantee perfection.  But when I push the button they make cymbal sounds.  So.
Title: Re: Free 'world's deepest sampled drum kit' (1.9GB) - Can this be 2box-ified??
Post by: peanutismint on December 12, 2014, 03:03:36 AM
Thanks man; if you can get the files to me I can probably host them, or try a megaupload or zippyshare or something...?
Title: Re: Free 'world's deepest sampled drum kit' (1.9GB) - Can this be 2box-ified??
Post by: Beethoven on December 12, 2014, 05:04:59 PM
Hi here is the answer:
QuoteThe kicks , toms and snares are multi-channel WAV files and Reaper has one of the few samplers that can handle it. The hats and all cymbals are normal stereo files, so any sampler can handle them.
Title: Re: Free 'world's deepest sampled drum kit' (1.9GB) - Can this be 2box-ified??
Post by: fcvapor05 on December 12, 2014, 11:08:56 PM
soon how do we convert those to stereo or mono .wav files then?
Title: Re: Free 'world's deepest sampled drum kit' (1.9GB) - Can this be 2box-ified??
Post by: Beethoven on December 13, 2014, 09:10:03 AM
I'll have a look at it. Maybe i can do something.
Title: Re: Free 'world's deepest sampled drum kit' (1.9GB) - Can this be 2box-ified??
Post by: Beethoven on December 13, 2014, 10:05:32 AM
You can open those files with Audacity (Freeware) and you will see 4 wave files .
Right, left and two mono files which are top and bottom.

Now what to do with those files ?

There is a function in Audacity to combine those files an make one stereo wave file
( Mix and Render in the Tracks menu )

It's easy in Audacity to set up a batch files and it will do all files at once.

Not sure how to handle RR01 and RR02. I'm german and the term "round robin"
doesn't make sense to me. Can somebody explain what the difference is ?

I'm also not sure if combining all 4 files makes sense or just take the left and right
file. I think we have to give it a try and listen to the result.

I'll post the batch macro for Audacity later if needed.
Title: Re: Free 'world's deepest sampled drum kit' (1.9GB) - Can this be 2box-ified??
Post by: Beethoven on December 13, 2014, 10:16:35 AM
Unfortunately the mix and resample command is not available
for batch files so it has to be done manually.

Open RRxx files
Mix and resample
Save the new wave file
Title: Re: Free 'world's deepest sampled drum kit' (1.9GB) - Can this be 2box-ified??
Post by: peanutismint on December 13, 2014, 10:21:38 AM
I know in Audacity you can create your own 'chains' as they call batch processes.... I'm assuming you've Tried using those commands in a custom chain?
Title: Re: Free 'world's deepest sampled drum kit' (1.9GB) - Can this be 2box-ified??
Post by: Beethoven on December 13, 2014, 10:26:16 AM
Yes like i said the mix and resample command is not
available for chains.

Maybe use an external macro recorder ?
Title: Re: Free 'world's deepest sampled drum kit' (1.9GB) - Can this be 2box-ified??
Post by: peanutismint on December 13, 2014, 10:27:57 AM
Ah I see :-) sorry, just checking.
Title: Re: Free 'world's deepest sampled drum kit' (1.9GB) - Can this be 2box-ified??
Post by: Beethoven on December 14, 2014, 10:08:31 AM
With Wave Agent (http://www.sounddevices.com/products/waveagent/) you can extract track 1 and 2
which are the stereo signal. To add the top and bottom
mic the file has to be remixed. Sox (http://sox.sourceforge.net/) can do this but i have
to figure out how to set the command line.
Title: Re: Free 'world's deepest sampled drum kit' (1.9GB) - Can this be 2box-ified??
Post by: Beethoven on December 14, 2014, 02:38:15 PM
Ok  i got it  :drum2:

Just get SOX (http://sourceforge.net/projects/sox/files/sox/14.4.1/) as a zipped version.
Make a new dir and unzip sox into that dir. Now also copy the files you want to convert
into that new dir. Like all SNR_1965_V01_SR_MULTI_VEL*_RR04.wav files.

Make a batch file 2Box.bat which looks like this:

mkdir converted
FOR %%A IN (%*) DO (

sox %%A resultL.wav remix 1p-%2 
sox %%A resultR.wav remix 2p-%2
sox %%A resultUpper.wav remix 3p-%3
sox %%A resultBottom.wav remix 4p-%4
sox -M resultL.wav resultR.wav resultUpper.wav resultBottom.wav result.wav remix -m 1,3,4 2,3,4
sox result.wav -b 16 -r 44.1k converted/%%A dither -a -f shibata )



Open Cmd and navigate to the new dir.

Now enter

2Box SNR_1965_V01_SR_MULTI_VEL*_RR04.wav 0 5 5

0 5 5 Are parameters for the mix

Here the stereo file will be untouched -0 dB top mic -5 dB  bottom mic -5dB

Execute the batch file and you will find the converted files in a subdir
called converted.

At the end of the batch you'll see error msg's which are no problem
Have to fix that.

When i have some more time i'll program a GUI which will make it
much easier.

Have fun !

Title: Re: Free 'world's deepest sampled drum kit' (1.9GB) - Can this be 2box-ified??
Post by: BertS on December 30, 2014, 09:31:33 PM
Hello,
It works!    I've made some dsnd files with Sox. And they sound pretty good.
The hi-hat doesn't sound good. Only open, half open, close and foot.
But the rest is good. With Sox i made a remix from the files L+R+Top+botom and from the files with L+R.  I'll try another time with tweaking the sounds first, or try to tweak in Sox.
But it's realy good there is a way, with Sox to remix sounds. Thank you Beethoven.

Greetings BertS
Title: Re: Free 'world's deepest sampled drum kit' (1.9GB) - Can this be 2box-ified??
Post by: Krillo on February 05, 2015, 09:00:38 PM
Maybe RME Multichannel WAV File Batch Processor can split those multichannel wavs? http://www.rme-audio.de/forum/viewtopic.php?id=11923

Downloading the samples now...

Tested it now, and it works great :)