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Title: 2box ceasing drum set production ??
Post by: Pret on July 20, 2017, 03:30:52 PM
I just called a local importer of 2box in my country to obtain a quotation for DrumIt 5 module.
To my dismay I was told 2box has just ceased production of the drumset and going to focus on modules only.
Is that proven info ??
Title: Re: 2box ceasing drum set production ??
Post by: welshsteve on July 20, 2017, 04:42:24 PM
I can imagine this to be the case. But I guess they're gonna concentrate on the drumit3 module for a bit before bringing out a drumit5 plus or something later.
They don't make the best pads (although I certainly like them) and feel the tide going with their market place being fixed into the DIY edrum market.
I do know they're working on a firmware update and going with the drumit3 very soon.
Title: Re: 2box ceasing drum set production ??
Post by: Pret on July 20, 2017, 06:05:00 PM
I wrote them directly asking that... well... now confirmed, they ceased production of pads
and will focus on module only.
Asked whether 5 will also be phased out and replaced by 3 they will continue to produce 5 a side of new 3...(frankly can hardly see any reason for that)
Let's see what they will answer..
Title: Re: 2box ceasing drum set production ??
Post by: edtc on July 20, 2017, 06:36:13 PM
it seems logic ...

The module is by far the best part of a drumit5 kit ...

Title: Re: 2box ceasing drum set production ??
Post by: Pret on July 20, 2017, 06:50:20 PM
Yes that is what I gather from all my online research for the best affordable module for my upgrade...
The big question though is whether the new 3 is worthy a wait of another 2-3 months or just bite the bullet and purchase the 5 (bearing in mind using an adapter for V-11 hi-hat)...
Title: Re: 2box ceasing drum set production ??
Post by: welshsteve on July 20, 2017, 11:12:52 PM
Well, if you can get a drumit5 and the VH11 box thing works, then get the 5! I would for sure.
Title: Re: 2box ceasing drum set production ??
Post by: Pret on July 21, 2017, 09:17:57 AM
Now confirmed - the 5 is or will also be phased out of production in favor of 3
Title: Re: 2box ceasing drum set production ??
Post by: welshsteve on July 21, 2017, 10:23:20 AM
Right to pick up a 2nd drumit5 or wait for the drumit3 before I sell of the TD15 (which. I use just for hats)???
Title: Re: 2box ceasing drum set production ??
Post by: Nico on July 21, 2017, 01:15:22 PM
If you don't need the 2 extra outputs from the drumit5, why not to choose the new drumit3 ?
It will support better hihats (without adapters) and better 3 zone rides. It is cheaper and will have new sounds in the box.
Title: Re: 2box ceasing drum set production ??
Post by: Pret on July 21, 2017, 02:35:15 PM
2box still did not advertise the compatibility list of the pads/cymbals models...
Title: Re: 2box ceasing drum set production ??
Post by: Pret on July 21, 2017, 02:35:58 PM
I mean for the new 3...
Title: Re: 2box ceasing drum set production ??
Post by: edtc on July 21, 2017, 04:03:25 PM
Quote from: Pret on July 21, 2017, 02:35:15 PM
2box still did not advertise the compatibility list of the pads/cymbals models...

- snare  input  will be compatible with 3 zones YAMAHA pads  ( with 3 sounds head/rim/sidestick) or 2 zones PIEZO/PIEZO & PIEZO/SWITCH .

-cymbals inputs will be compatible with 3 zones YAMAHA  cymbals  ( with 3 sounds )    2 zones  with  PIEZO/SWITCH cymbals .

- 3 zones for cymbals via 2 inputs BOW/EDGE , BOW/BELL (roland style )

- toms compatible with 2 zones PIEZO/PIEZO & PIEZO/SWITCH  so any existing pads will be ok , except MARK DRUM and USB latest ROLANDS




Title: Re: 2box ceasing drum set production ??
Post by: Jman on July 21, 2017, 04:24:37 PM
Quote from: edtc on July 21, 2017, 04:03:25 PM
- snare  input  will be compatible with 3 zones YAMAHA pads  ( with 3 sounds head/rim/sidestick) or 2 zones PIEZO/PIEZO & PIEZO/SWITCH .

-cymbals inputs will be compatible with 3 zones YAMAHA  cymbals  ( with 3 sounds )    2 zones  with  PIEZO/SWITCH cymbals .

- 3 zones for cymbals via 2 inputs BOW/EDGE , BOW/BELL (roland style )

- toms compatible with 2 zones PIEZO/PIEZO & PIEZO/SWITCH  so any existing pads will be ok , except MARK DRUM and USB latest ROLANDS
And Bengt told me it would also be compatible with existing 2Box pads and cymbals.
Title: Re: 2box ceasing drum set production ??
Post by: Pret on July 21, 2017, 04:55:42 PM
Not sure what are two or three zones...as a relatively beginner :-)
But does all that mean compatible with all current Roland pads and cymbals ?
No need any kind of adapters ?
Title: Re: 2box ceasing drum set production ??
Post by: Drumpig on July 21, 2017, 05:20:06 PM
What are the differences between the 5 and the 3? i bought the 5 just recently as i need the individual outputs specifically for recording each instrument as audio, other than cymbals as i use acoustic cymbals mic'd up.
Title: Re: 2box ceasing drum set production ??
Post by: welshsteve on July 22, 2017, 08:25:08 AM
The difference it mainly the 3 is geared to handle 95% of other brand pads and cymbals. But it has 2 less outputs. Most Roland's and others only ever have 2 outputs so I don't see this as an major loss. I've ever only used 2 on the drumit5. But everyone's requirements differ.
Title: Re: 2box ceasing drum set production ??
Post by: Coda on July 24, 2017, 03:34:48 AM
I was using 5 outs until I got the Gen16, now 4. I will need to put the click on a separate channel soon, so it will be back to 5. The D3 wouldn't work for me.
Title: Re: 2box ceasing drum set production ??
Post by: JRage on July 24, 2017, 06:10:04 AM
Quote from: Nico on July 21, 2017, 01:15:22 PM
If you don't need the 2 extra outputs from the drumit5, why not to choose the new drumit3 ?
It will support better hihats (without adapters) and better 3 zone rides. It is cheaper and will have new sounds in the box.

Hopefully, those sounds will be compatible with Drumit5 too ;)
Title: Re: 2box ceasing drum set production ??
Post by: Murgen on July 24, 2017, 01:52:46 PM
I use 2 outputs to my mixer and a 3rd output to my Throne Thumper. I understand the move, however, the 2Box pads are not that bad and recently priced. Just the concept of the hihat sensor which did not worked out too well.

But I understand the move, prolly the 3 is easier to produce because of a more recent  component design. USB 2 or 3 anybody?
Title: Re: 2box ceasing drum set production ??
Post by: edtc on July 25, 2017, 12:46:35 AM
Quote from: Murgen on July 24, 2017, 01:52:46 PM
.... prolly the 3 is easier to produce because of a more recent  component design. USB 2 or 3 anybody?

IMO , except the universal trigger mod and the "less outs button an knobs" thing , the electronic is basically the same ... and the USB 1 interface probably too ...

Not a problem as the Drumit5 is still outstanding , compared to other modules around 800/1500â,¬ ...

We'll see "early autumn " ;)
Title: Re: 2box ceasing drum set production ??
Post by: Murgen on July 25, 2017, 07:21:25 PM
The other improvement is the adapter ... from DC to AC, which will make it less vulnerable for power dips.
Title: Re: 2box ceasing drum set production ??
Post by: Coda on July 26, 2017, 04:09:05 AM
Quote from: Murgen on July 25, 2017, 07:21:25 PM
The other improvement is the adapter ... from DC to AC, which will make it less vulnerable for power dips.
From AC to DC, but yes an improvement.
Title: Re: 2box ceasing drum set production ??
Post by: Murgen on July 26, 2017, 07:28:59 PM
Quote from: Coda on July 26, 2017, 04:09:05 AM
From AC to DC, but yes an improvement.
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Haha, their leaflet says different ;) http://2box.se/download/pdf/2Box-DrumIt-Three.pdf
Title: Re: 2box ceasing drum set production ??
Post by: Jman on July 26, 2017, 07:49:12 PM
Quote from: Murgen on July 26, 2017, 07:28:59 PM
Quote from: Coda on July 26, 2017, 04:09:05 AM
From AC to DC, but yes an improvement.
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Haha, their leaflet says different ;) http://2box.se/download/pdf/2Box-DrumIt-Three.pdf

What they mean by Multi plug AC power supply 100-240V is that it will be Universal, able to plug into various AC power from dif. countries. On the back of the module if you zoom in you will see DC In. So they changed the module and now supply a Multi Power Supply adapter. The new DC In should prove better and Power supply/adapters might not be so hard to find ..... LOL.
Title: Re: 2box ceasing drum set production ??
Post by: ANGR77 on July 26, 2017, 08:53:34 PM
The AC/DC adapter is also an EU requirement.

It is an interesting question regarding if the Three had a USB 1 or USB 2 implementation...
The three box I tested had definitely USB 1...but I think the ambition was to get rid of the 4GB memory limitation when addressed over USB, (a limit based on the USB 1.)

Hope they fixed this!

Best regards

Anders / www.zourman.com
Title: Re: 2box ceasing drum set production ??
Post by: waynec42 on August 03, 2017, 10:59:56 AM
IMO and big step backwards with only 4 outs. I use 7 outs (using heaphone out) at the moment as I use the kit live; splitting Kick, Snare, Toms (Left and right) ,OH's (left and right) and Hats for complete control over the mix. Everyroom is different and using IEM's it enables band members to dial in whatever drum mix they need. ie. bass player likes hats, others like Kick and snare.

Not much info about the outs that I can see from website. Can the headphone out be used as in the '5'? Are the outs balances this time? To me a logical step forward for a professional device.

What about the line in (which I have never used). Can it be selected as an output.

All in all, the reduced outputs is a deal breaker for me.