Can anyone fix this for me? will pay for shippinhg and repair costs etc

[redstar299]

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[Jman]

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That one is probably a fix you would want to try to fix through 2Box or the distributor. The cymbal piezos are definitely different than other stock piezos that are out there. They are a sort of ring piezo that circles the center. So to get it fixed as new, that would be the way to go. Where the solder snapped off it broke off some of the piezo ceramic, so the piezo should be replaced. It might be possible to solder a small regular piezo like a 20MM piezo in there without having to take the entire cymbal apart and just replace the existing piezo.... but it would not be quite as sensitive:
http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts/15-buzzer-piezo-element-6-5khz-20mm-ceb-20d64.html

[redstar299]

Thanks yeah I contacted the dealer they are taking care of it -

[Chamstix]

Hi,

I just found this topic when browsing the forums to address an identical problem. I have a MK1 2box kit I use to teach on and the cymbal pad stopped working last week. I had previously had a lot of problems with it triggering a bell sound on the usual crash part but now its more or less died!

I opened the input box to find the same problem. One of the wires is broken, solder attached to a small bit of ceramic from what I believe is the piezo. Problem looks almost identical to the image you posted.

Did you get this problem solved and was it very costly?

Should have sorted a few hardware problems out ages ago.....the brain for this kit is a beauty but the rest of the kit is built to crumble! 

[Greg the groove]

Totally agree. I would never trust the 2box kit itself to gig with. I've only used my 2box module with a Roland TD30 kit, my Jobeky kit and now my acoustic triggered kit. Their kit is garbage and it's a shame because the module sounds great. Although, the module design could be a little bit better

[Dänoh]

Agreed with Greg!  ...Less plastic, more metal! 

Would love to see a Drumit-Five inside the old Clavia/DDrum chassis.... including IEC socket and 'that big knob'... 


Why 2box is making their own rack, in spite there are lots of offerings by Gibraltar (Tama/Pearl/Yamaha/Others) is puzzling me!

...must be the money! 

[nocturnodrummer]

Is the hardware really THAT bad? The pads seem indestructible. I mean, piezos are all the same, every company uses piezos. And those in the cymbals are especially susceptible to vibration and damage. I'm on the verge of buying 2box with intention to use it just like a regular drumset i.e. rehearsals and live playing. Will I be disappointed with the reliability?

[Jman]

Is the hardware really THAT bad? The pads seem indestructible. I mean, piezos are all the same, every company uses piezos. And those in the cymbals are especially susceptible to vibration and damage. I'm on the verge of buying 2box with intention to use it just like a regular drumset i.e. rehearsals and live playing. Will I be disappointed with the reliability?

There are plenty of happy 2Boxers doing just that. The earlier drum pads had more problems especially with the rims, but have been improved since the MKII version. And I would say while cases like this where a wire breaks loose have occurred, it is not something to be scared off by. It doesn't seem to be a common problem on the cymbals, at least from the forum posts. I have seen a few posts about snare or kick where the wire has broken loose, but again, not a huge concern IMO. I also think customer support for 2Box is very good if a problem did arise. If you look at the stock edrum kits in the same price range the 2Box is quite a bargain IMO. And module wise, personally I would choose the 2Box over any available to date even those at twice the price.

[fulrmr]

I have to agree with Jman here. Cast aluminum not sturdy enough for the pads for you? Even if one picked up used Gibraltar rack parts....2Box would still be the best deal head to head on the market today for it's price point...the module almost guarantees that if sound quality is a concern IMHO.

That said...there isn't a system on the market today that could not use some improvement somewhere...even the most pricey kits have plenty of flaws according to some of their users.

There are always options though if the pads and rack are not sufficient for whatever reason. DIY...Custom build companies...Gibraltar rack systems(or others). The module makes all the other "adjustments" well worth the cash and "trouble"...if you even consider it trouble at all. 

[Dänoh]

Is the hardware really THAT bad? The pads seem indestructible.

I have a fear that the 2box shells (...the orange part...) is made out of the same kind of ABS/plastic material, that was used on the DDrum pads - and I've seen cracks in those DDrum pads!
...around the 'bearing edges', were the tuning rods go through the hoop, meeting the shell.

[Jman]

I have a fear that the 2box shells (...the orange part...) is made out of the same kind of ABS/plastic material, that was used on the DDrum pads - and I've seen cracks in those DDrum pads!
...around the 'bearing edges', were the tuning rods go through the hoop, meeting the shell.

The shells are metal, are you talking about part of the rims?  The pads seem to pass the run it over with a car test pretty well 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf0uvj0nfGQ

Maybe if we could get owners of dif. brand pads to submit a test sample Allan could do a similar test in Digitaldrummer mag.  OK, so send your favorite Edrum to Allan for the car tire smack down ....

[Dänoh]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf0uvj0nfGQ

      

Oh boy...   

The shells are metal,

I don't know what I was thinking... 
I already was way past the point where I should've hit the sack! Or maybe I was just fooled by the color...

Maybe if we could get owners of dif. brand pads to submit a test sample Allan could do a similar test in Digitaldrummer mag.  OK, so send your favorite Edrum to Allan for the car tire smack down ....

Oh absolutely! I don't have a licence, but I would love to have the privilege to run them over in person!   

Do me a nice traffic-lane ...a nicely lined-up row of Medeli pads... and I'll try my very best!   


"Goodbye Medeli - so long!" [insert evil laughter, here!]

[fishmonkey]

i absolutely agree that the 2Box kit is good value for money overall, however the rim trigger system is definitely a weakness. the rim triggering is inconsistent and the design is prone to breakage (of the retaining o-rings, the plastic hoop that transmits vibration to the piezo, and the soft rubber attached to the plastic hoop that absorbs the energy of rim hits).

i very much doubt that the rim trigger system of that pad that was run over by the car was undamaged afterwards.

[Jman]

i absolutely agree that the 2Box kit is good value for money overall, however the rim trigger system is definitely a weakness. the rim triggering is inconsistent and the design is prone to breakage (of the retaining o-rings, the plastic hoop that transmits vibration to the piezo, and the soft rubber attached to the plastic hoop that absorbs the energy of rim hits).

i very much doubt that the rim trigger system of that pad that was run over by the car was undamaged afterwards.

Yeah, the floating rim is the weakest link I would say. I guess the O-rings are not a huge problem since people have found replacements for those pretty easily from hardware stores. But it would prolly be good to have spare parts for the floating rim or the entire floating rim assembly on hand (especially for gigging drummers). In this PDF there are part nos. for the 10" and 12" floating rim:  https://files.secureserver.net/0suAwoDqT9nDsC

[Dänoh]

Yeah, the floating rim is the weakest link I would say.
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In this PDF there are part nos. for the 10" and 12" floating rim:  https://files.secureserver.net/0suAwoDqT9nDsC

So the floating rim is the black part of the drum, correct? ...Is it made from aluminum too?