Hi Everyone
Well seeing as most of us here haven't got the chance to go to Namm this year, i thought that i would bring it to you ;D
I am hoping to be able to update this page over the next couple of days with new pictures and info.
Optional strut bar
So to start with here is a picture of an optional strut bar for the Rack. This item is something we are contemplating having manufatured, but we wanted to get some feedback first, and who better to ask then the DrumIt Five community:
(http://www.2box.se/Web_Pics/strut-bar.jpg)
I dont have any pricing at the moment, but is this something that DrumIt Five user's would be interested in?
Look forward to your feedback :)
Thanks
Scott
Not sure about the orange, I think the rack should stay silver. I'd buy it if it were cheap, the rack isn't so steady after taking out the snare bracket and replacing with a proper stand.
Hey Scottie! Love the orangeness of that bar!
My thoughts: if the top of the kick could somehow connect to that cross bar to stop the physical bounce/rebounce then this would be a worthwhile bit of kit.
If it's just for making the rack more sturdy, I dont think it will have much effect? I may be wrong.
For my part, I think it's very nice. :)
I think the whole rack should be orange! :)
I've only played the demo version of the 2box, because I'm still waiting for the next shipment, but I think the top of the bassdrum should be mounted to this extra bar. The bassdrum of the kit that I played double triggered because it was bouncing back at the beater.
Yes, I agree : if the top of the bass drum pad could be connected
to that bar, I would buy it.
Yep, adding support for the kick on the middle sounds like a good idea to me.
I'm using seperate snare and HH stands, so I've got my rack set up with the two shorter bars doubled-up on the right hand side, supporting floor-tom, ride and brain and some DD4 bits. Does seem to add overall stability.
Quote from: tjemeu on January 15, 2010, 11:04:48 AM
I think the whole rack should be orange! :)
Hmmm...
(http://www.2box-forum.com/images/orange-rack.jpg)
(quick and dirty mock-up)
It's certainly....proud!
Hahahaha, very cool!
I likes that orange bar, and that mock up of the whole orange racks looks cool as well..
yeah, I reckon it's all or nothing with the orange rack
True, but on the other hand, if only the optional bar is orange it looks very optional!
You know what, I think I'd get one either way :)
I wouldn't I dont think unless it did hold the kick drum. Looking at my set up at home (still using the snare arm) this extra bar wouldn't offer any more to my set up...
If it hold ths kick though, they're onto a winner!
anything that makes the rack a little sturdier cannot be a bad thing either..
Hi,
i think i wouldn't buy it until it doesn't support the upper side of the kick pad. In my opinion the fixation of the kick drum is to shaky. If I want to make the set more steady i would use a different holder for the snare (already ordered) and strengthen the rack with some parts from dixon like carlomagno did.
Manfred
Is it a bull bar?
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1124/576287783_7aa22a7c72.jpg)
Bur seriously: what's the function of it? Not many drummers complain about a swinging rack, although they initially thought it would swing like a hell. So for me: no thnx
I see there is a new gray hihat as well?
And what about the modules selling individually? A need one desperately
I like that orange optional strut bar for the Rack looks great I say keep it that way :rock:
Hi everyone
OK, Thanks for all the feedback ;D I have passed these thoughts on to Bengt at 2box.
I am hoping that i will be able to post a couple more pictures today of some other bits for you ;)
Thanks again
Scott
If they really want to make the rack more stable than have a look on the pictures from carlomagno what he did with the tubes from dixon.I think it looks way better.but I also like the new orange bar.
''Looking better'' is something different than ''being stable''
How many complaints are there about the 2box rack?
Count them for me, please (one hand is enhough)
Quote from: puttenvr on January 16, 2010, 06:30:58 PM
''Looking better'' is something different than ''being stable''
How many complaints are there about the 2box rack?
Count them for me, please (one hand is enhough)
it makes it also sturdier, there also are 2box owners who modify their 2box-rack.
Hi
I found some little news here:
http://web.me.com/julianlove/Site_2/NAMM_pt4.html (http://web.me.com/julianlove/Site_2/NAMM_pt4.html)
Quote from: nonoduweb on January 18, 2010, 06:32:07 AM
Hi
I found some little news here:
http://web.me.com/julianlove/Site_2/NAMM_pt4.html (http://web.me.com/julianlove/Site_2/NAMM_pt4.html)
Read the Pearl E-pro review, and my first thought was:
(http://images.bigfail.com/i/f/10/00/081.jpg)
The pearl E-pro seems to be a modified Alesis dm10.
Read on pearls forum:
Originally Posted by HellfireDrums
Assuming the firmware is 100% the same as the Alesis DM10, the answer is the heads. The DM10 can handle piezo/piezo or piezo/switch type pads. It looks as if Pearl opted for the piezo/switch. Some people are not going to like that....The price range? - like the roland td-12 set
Quote from: roel on January 16, 2010, 06:44:50 PM
it makes it also sturdier,
How do you know? You even don't own a 2box
Roel, you're lurking around here and jump into conclusions without any own experciences all the time
You're probably a nice guy, but please stop that
Quote from: puttenvr on January 16, 2010, 06:30:58 PM
''Looking better'' is something different than ''being stable''
How many complaints are there about the 2box rack?
Count them for me, please (one hand is enhough)
the 'complaints' can be found here,
http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php/topic,32.0.html
And in much reviews it becomes clear to me that the rack might not fall over yet it is not it's strongest selling point.
I don't have to own a set to come to that conclusion.
I'll settle this! haha ;D
I am a very VERY hard hitter - certainly on an acoustic kit, so it must transpire slightly on an eKit.
I can safely say that if built properly, there are absolutely no issues with the rack at all. You get a very minimal wobble, like you do with toms etc on an acoustic kit, so why should eKit be any diffferent, it doesn't move, it doesn't fall over, it doesn't loosen. Even the HH stand and snare stand are solid.
When I play live on acoustic kit, a lot of the time in a small venue the engineer doesn't put any of my snare through the PA, I have even been asked to not play as hard - yet me snare does not budge on the standard 2box stand.
Just ensure you have spent the time to build the rack properly before saying that the rack is bad.
The only thing that could improve would be a strut bar that connects to the kick drum to stop rebounce.
Stability isn't an issue. I'm also on a 1st Generation kit - and even the HH was fine even though I do use my Pearl one (better than leaving it lying around and I am use to it)
So there you go! :drum3:
Quote from: nonoduweb on January 18, 2010, 06:32:07 AM
Hi
I found some little news here:
http://web.me.com/julianlove/Site_2/NAMM_pt4.html (http://web.me.com/julianlove/Site_2/NAMM_pt4.html)
At the risk of sounding like a total pervert does anyone know who that girl is?
Quote from: puttenvr on January 18, 2010, 09:47:46 AM
How do you know? You even don't own a 2box
Roel, you're lurking around here and jump into conclusions without any own experciences all the time
You're probably a nice guy, but please stop that
Ok than puttenvr I will find it out when I got my 2box... But what Iam trying to say is that it was my own expiercience with the 2box rack after I played it 6 times,maby they did not setup the rack correctly by feedback rotterdam.sure I will findout when I got my own set, so sorry for the negative comments here.
Time for a group hug I think.
;D
Roel, great !
Quote from: Alex on January 18, 2010, 11:10:48 AM
At the risk of sounding like a total pervert does anyone know who that girl is?
I don't know, I picked this poor girl up in Google Street...
Lol ^^
The Pearl E-Pro module:
(http://www.e-prolive.com/art/redbox.png)
Alesis DM10:
(http://floridamusicco.com/images/product%20pics/smallwide/tnl_dm10prokita.jpg)
The Pearl E-Pro module:
(http://www.e-prolive.com/art/redbox-back.jpg)
Alesis DM10:
(http://www.andertons.co.uk/Products/i/xl_3_dm10prokit.jpg)
=/
They'rew totally different. One is red, the other is dark grey / black. One says DDrum4 Pearl, and the other says Alesis!
one looks black, the other looks funky, but it´s all the same unlucky and bad stuff...
read here: http://web.me.com/julianlove/Site_2/NAMM_pt1.html
Theo
Quote from: puttenvr on January 18, 2010, 09:43:48 PM
Roel, great !
I think I am the biggest 2box fanboy here behind you puttenvr :rock:
Quote from: TrommelTheo on January 19, 2010, 06:04:23 PM
one looks black, the other looks funky, but it´s all the same unlucky and bad stuff...
read here: http://web.me.com/julianlove/Site_2/NAMM_pt1.html
Theo
I think you're right about the Pearl kit! But the review of the 2box on page 4 is very positive!
Quote from: roel on January 19, 2010, 07:10:26 PM
I think I am the biggest 2box fanboy here behind you puttenvr :rock:
*cough cough*
Hey everyone
Well things didn't go to plan with this thread. I was hoping to be able to show you a couple of new bits but the courier service totally screwed up the shipment, and actually delivered the goods the day after the show had finished.... just what we needed!
Thank you all for your feedback with regards to the strut bar.
Scott
show us your bits then lol....
Yeah, where's the 19 inch rack version of the 2box we al waited for so long?
Quote from: puttenvr on January 22, 2010, 02:21:49 PM
Yeah, where's the 19 inch rack version of the 2box we al waited for so long?
Amen
any played 2box at the NAMM 2010 show?
Some people did
Quote from: puttenvr on January 24, 2010, 08:38:46 AM
Some people did
but no info about new firmware update, new video's ect?
Deve loper already told us about a new OS to be released in March
Quote from: puttenvr on January 27, 2010, 06:18:01 PM
I see no moving racks great! LOVE THE ORANGE BAR! can't wait to get my 2box!
The rack without orange bar is also not moving ;)
Hi everybody,
First of all, and taking advantage of my first post, I'd like to comment sth:
I moved 1.5 year ago to Zurich. Back home I used to have a nice Mapex Orion but now I live in Switzerland and those things regarding noise and neighbours are really picky. So, after one year thinking about to buy or not an e-drum I've decided myself for a 2box 8) [also I was considering TD-20 and Yamaha's sets], but everything I've read (and heard) in reviews, videos and forums (including this one obvously) indicates me that this is the future for e-drums, and I wanna be part of it.
NOW my question: today I called the swiss distributor but he told me that in my best case, I'll get it by end Feb. [what a pitty...i want it now :'(] but I don't know if those sets coming in that shipment will include these new features i.e. new strut bar, new HH stand and OS update... Does anybody know it?
I'm afraid that if I order it now I could get an "old" version, I mean, if i'm gonna buy a new set, I want it to be the frontline...so, if sb can give me a hint I'll do appreciate it.
P.S. I'm sorry if the introduction was toooo long 'es tut mir leid'
Ok, so how the fudgemonkey did this happen?
http://www.pearldrum.com/News/News-Item.aspx?id=584
I cry bullshit shenanigans.
(oh and those drum duets kind of sound like Marco Minneman :D)
Quote from: p929 on January 27, 2010, 10:27:04 PM
P.S. I'm sorry if the introduction was toooo long 'es tut mir leid'
Kein Problem p929, wilkommen :)
I think that by now, most kits on sale will be 2nd generation... as it is I made my decision to buy my kit mostly based on spending a few hours with the 1st generation kit ...(I literally misssed the boat on the first wave of kits anyway!). Also, because you can upgrade the brain firmware, the differences are minimal.
Please note this post is not sponsored by 2box in any way ;D
*lol* how many $$$$$$$$$$$$$ did Pearl paied for this "free" Opinion??? :animal:
this bullshit nonsense is worthless!
Theo
Exactly, in the early days a European car always was voted as car of the year, while Japanese cars already were much better (and cheaper).
p929, I don't think the strutt bar is standard, but the hihat and OS will.
Herzlich willkommen und viel spass
Maybe if they said pad set I would not have a real issue for best in show. If you read the text it is more about the "look" asthetics over real playability as everyone knows it is the Alesis brain.
They are kind of a beefed up space muffins not super groundbreaking but the electronic drum market has been going slightly backwards since the end of the ddrum3 so I suppose this is a "new" thing and it all about new. Word will get out people will demand the 2 box brains in a big way.
I like that orange bar but, yes, it should hold the kick pad(s). It does add spice to otherwise quite boring look of the silver rack ;). So, if it holds the kick I would buy it. Actually, I'm about to buy second kick pad, now I have to figure out how to set it all up with two bass drums...
2 kick drums will rock :rock:
You need one of these (http://www.inta-audio.com/cables-connectors-c205/connectors-splitters-c223/2-x-635mm-socket-to-635mm-stereo-jack-splitter-p372#372)
or one of these (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1%2f4-Jack-6.35mm-MONO-Plug-to-2-x-MONO-Sockets-SPLITTER_W0QQitemZ320470966267QQcmdZViewItem?rvr_id=&rvr_id=&cguid=820398401240a0aad0c44664feca2137) (can't remember if you need mono or stereo but I'm sure there's a setting in the brain to tell it what type of input you're using)
oh and you'll need another jack-to-jack lead (mono/stereo?)
I've tested this out with a DDrum + 2box kick going into the 2box brain and it worked no problem, although the levels were slightly different - but 2 x 2box kicks should work fine I guess :)
Quote from: Remi on January 27, 2010, 09:30:33 PM
The rack without orange bar is also not moving ;)
Yes,it takes the concern away a little,so that s a good thing.
It shows that drummers play like on a normal drumset without having to compromise for small pads,also a good thing.However,these are good drummers and to me the sound I hear from the hihat does not represent the things these are playing at all.Dynamics are all over the place.Still room for improvement there.
I think I would change the rack design, the orange bar is not attractive and the thin posts that hold the curved bars are thin and hurt the asthetics of the kit when viewed from a distance or on stage. Granted it is fine for home play with exception of the snare basket, never saw a problem with the stability on the toms. I set up my gibraltar rack from my ddrum 3 and put the 2box on that and wow what a differnence looks wise. I will post pics soon.
I am sure there are molds etc and a radical design is unlikely but selling the pads and brain and rack separate would be a smart move. Production on the rack will drop I suspect while the module sales ramp up.
Quote from: UC on January 28, 2010, 12:05:50 AM
.. you can upgrade the brain firmware
thx UC, this reliefs me...now I can't wait till end Feb to own it...
Quote from: UC on January 28, 2010, 12:05:50 AM
Please note this post is not sponsored by 2box in any way ;D
I know, in any case I've decided for a 2box so....a plane in flight has more reverse than my choice :patbat2box:
Quote from: puttenvr on January 28, 2010, 06:19:54 AM
I don't think the strutt bar is standard, but the hihat and OS will.
thx puttenvr. It's a pitty, It makes it look cooler (but I agree with some others, it should hold the kick as well)
thx puttenvr. It's a pitty, It makes it look cooler (but I agree with some others, it should hold the kick as well)
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Yes man it should hold the kick, just like the new RET Percussion set (metal masters see youtube).
Quote from: UC on January 28, 2010, 04:29:49 PM
2 kick drums will rock :rock:
You need one of these (http://www.inta-audio.com/cables-connectors-c205/connectors-splitters-c223/2-x-635mm-socket-to-635mm-stereo-jack-splitter-p372#372)
or one of these (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1%2f4-Jack-6.35mm-MONO-Plug-to-2-x-MONO-Sockets-SPLITTER_W0QQitemZ320470966267QQcmdZViewItem?rvr_id=&rvr_id=&cguid=820398401240a0aad0c44664feca2137) (can't remember if you need mono or stereo but I'm sure there's a setting in the brain to tell it what type of input you're using)
oh and you'll need another jack-to-jack lead (mono/stereo?)
I've tested this out with a DDrum + 2box kick going into the 2box brain and it worked no problem, although the levels were slightly different - but 2 x 2box kicks should work fine I guess :)
well, I was hoping I can use Y cable (2 mono jacks on one end and 1 stereo jack on the other). So I tried to plug my 2 hansenfutz pedals triggered with Pintech RS-5 to the brain's kick input but I get signal from one pedal only. Do I need stereo signal/jacks coming from the pedals?
I will have second 2box kick next week so I'd like to have cables ready by then.
must admit i don't know, but if you go into UNIT you can select mono or stereo input for the kick so that might help...