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Hi!

This is a 2box forum, I love my 2box and I even producing some third part equipment for 2box...so don't lissen to me if you want to go another way. I don't own a Mimic and have never tested it. But It looks like a refreshing unit and it has given the market some bust.

But still...to hardcode a VST (even the sounds) into a hardware is very limited compared to what I have today in 2box.

After seen a reply regarding the "Mimic editor" on vdrums.com (from what I believe is the best part of the Mimic...Mr Boo), my feeling is the editor is not even on the drawing board. I think you need to double your estimated time when it will be launched. But again, my speculations...and what do I know.


Best regards

Anders / www.zourman.com

Hi!

I don't know much about the 2box future...but i still think the 2box DrumIt Five is a great product!

It seems to be a Mimic fever out there...of course a good system...but still very limited by the VST, round robins, hi-hat implementations and other stuff. After reading all the posts on the Vdrums forum about Mimic...I am still believe that the sound editor will take time before we see it launched on the market...if ever. There are a lot of other stuff which needs to be fixed first and I don't think Mr Slate would prioritize this development(he wants to sell sounds)...but maybe Pearl do. I could of course be wrong here.

Then you have the issue...a Mimic cost 3 times a DrumIt 3...so I still believe there is a great market for it!

This was my speculations!


Best Regards

Anders / www.zourman.com / Roland Hi-hat conversion modules for 2box.

Hi!

I had to do some tests also...I used my old 2box hi-hat. First the edge switch did not trigger at all...so  after taking the hi-hat apart, I saw that one of the edge "teeths" was connecting all the time to the ground. After fixing it the "8" came up as usual when hitting the edge.

Continuing the tests...pinching the edge fast a couple of times in a row I could occasionally get the hi-hat to open when looking on the calibration panel. But no mistriggering sound. It looked more easy to get it to open when looking on your previous video doing the pinching.

Strange if you got it to work at home...is the environment different in any way compared to the stage setup?

Best Regards

Anders / www.zourman.com

Hi all!

The edge switch and the pedal position uses the same connection to the 2box module. Ring and sleeve.

I would argu that all 2box users would experience the same issue when pressing the edge switch...and look on the hi-hat calibration panel. The hi-hat will open. Please try it and verify this. I do see this scenario in my 2box hi-hat.

So I don't think this is the problem causing the chick sound problem.

Best regards

Anders / www.zourman.com / Roland Hi-hat conversion modules for 2box.

IF you want to use 3 zone cymbals with the Drumit five, 2box is the only choice. (I think Jman/ Stealth has some 3 zone cymbals also)

If you only have some Alesis 2 Zone cymbals e.g bow + edge trigger...they will work directly.

The hi-hat is unique for 2box and needs a 2box Hihat, Jman hh Conversion kit or if you want to use a Roland FD-8 or VH-11, 12, 13...I have some stuff ready to just plug and play.

For Drumit 3...the 3 zone can be used with any e-cymbal...same thing with the hi-hat.

So wait for the Three or get a five...I think you will be satisfied with either!

Best regards

Anders / www.zourman.com / Roland Hihat Conversion modules for 2box

You are probably right, Deve - but I am pretty sure we that we measured on the power input on the Allegro circuit itself - when we realized that the power was over the specs. But, I am currently doing some other research...so I will check again. :-)

It is still strange why the circuit "pops" under certain scenarios. Somebody claimed that they "popped" on stage environments where it could be a lot of earth leaks, unstable power, magnetic fields etc.

Also the fact that Jmans solution never popped...which I believe is an electronic isolated solution could speak for the power leak scenario between the 2Box module and the hi-hat.

Somebody said that this magnetic solution is exactly the same solution which was used in DDRUM (in the good old days) - and guess what - it never popped either.

But what do I know? :-)

Best Regards

Anders / www.zourman.com

Hi!

I might not completely follow this discussion...but just clear any confusion. 2box is using the Allegro A1392 in their hi-hats. This is the only model which is possible to use.

Our findings is assumptions-but we are quite sure the circuit pops because when overriding the specs.

To isolate the 2box module - (this is valid if you have standard 2box pads on rack) check if the stand holding the 2box module is in metal and is fixad with metal screws. If it is attached to the 2box rack...which I assume is in metal...and the hi-hat stand is connected to the rack. Here you have a big nice connection. You could either detach the 2box module or add some extra clutch isolation under the hi-hat magnet to isolate and break this circuit.

Last- the Zourman hi-hat conversion modules don't use any Hall effect sensor or Alllegro circuit at all.
We have adapted so a Roland based hi-hat pedal using its resistor and then we convert the signal to fit 2box hi-hat system. Just plug-play - no fiddling with magnets.

Best Regards

Anders / www.zourman.com

This is an interesting question. We (Me and dad) did some studies last year on the hall effect sensor (Allegro A1392) and according to all specs the maximum limit of supplied power for the circuit is 3.5V.

However - the power supplied on the hi-hat output is 4.12V. A zenerdiod/resistors won't help this scenario. We can't measure any spikes using oscillioscope when powering up/down on the hi-hat input...but we are 92% convinced that the normal powerstate sometimes overloads the Allegro circuit. We have also seen strange power leaks between the 2box chassi and the hi-hat stand where the hi-hat is connected. So make sure your 2box module is exectronically separated from the rack metal.

Yes, I am glad you asked (Joking..) - the Zourman Conversion Module is designed to handle up to 6 volt's...

Best Regards

Anders Gronlund / www.zourman.com

Hi!

I have seen some problems to read my dkit files. Running on DrumIt Manager latest version. I am running 1.3.0.3 OS. The experienced problems is that I can't see fields like the hi-hat calibration etc regardless which dkit file I bring up. Old default...or my own created ones. Running w10. Have a memory modified 2box....and just reads the sd card directly on my computer.

Lustark, have you seen any of these problems? It used to work fine! :-)

Best regards

Anders Gronlund / www.zourman.com

Hi!

Sorry about your first experienced problems with the 2box.

2. Do you have the rubber toms or the mesh head toms?

Best regards

Anders / www.zourman.com

Yes - JMan - you are probably right. Either it works...or not for some external reason. This seems to be a bit unique.

[I am going to invest why I can read out my data from the DKIT file any more from Drummit Manager. :-)]

Best Regards

Anders

Hi best friends.

I have in the past used the Lustarks Drumit Manager many times and been able to read out the hi-hat calib settings. (When working with the Zourman boxes...)

Today, just to verify my systems, I had to check again and see what the calib/calib was showing... but there seems to be impossible to read out the config nowdays when using 1.3.0.3 version of the firmware/OS and the 1.4.7c of Drumit Manager. It shows 0 and 0 on the calib fields for all my configurations. Is there any more people out there who are experiencing this issue also?

To get the chick sound - the difference in ohm and power on the Zourman modules comparing the gap between a closed hi-hat and the chick with splash is extremely tiny...about 30-60 ohms...

So I am guessing, if anything is sligtly wrong configured or the magnet dont reach the end positions in a proper way...the result will end up with errors like this.

Best Regards

Anders / www.zourman.com

[Roland VH-13 hi-hat]

For you ones that owns a Roland VH-13 hi-hat...I have now launched a VH-13 version of the Zourman Drums Hi-hat Conversion Module for 2Box DrumIt Five.

The VH-13 impedance range actually differs quite alot from the VH-11 and VH-12 versions - so it needed some real hard testing to fine tune the electronics to make it perfect! I think I succeeded!

Have a look at:
http://zourman.com/product/zourman-drums-hi-hat-conversion-kit-for-vh-13/

Best Regards

Anders Gronlund / Zourman.com

Loose on the module?...is it the AC connector which is a bit loose when inserting it to the 2box module AC input connector?


Best regards

Anders / www.zourman.com / hi-hat conversion module for 2box

Jobeky / Colin have been reporting that the Zourman Drums (formally 42box) works great with their Reel feel hi-hat. (The FD-x/VH-11 version of Zourman Drums)

Best regards

Anders / www.zourman.com / hi-hat conversion modules for 2box