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My wishes for DrumIT 6
« on: April 18, 2011, 09:55:39 PM »
First of all...better quality hardware with less toy feeling !

Available in more colors.

- I suggest use of standard L-arms compatible with Tama for tom toms (like Ddrum4), to make it easier to combine drumpads with other acoustic drums with use of same stands and rack.

- A soundmodule that can be mounted in rack i addition to be mounted on the rackstand. Ex looking more like the design of Roland V-synth xt module.

- simulation of audio crosstalk and acoustic resonance. Like when you hit a tom the other toms also resonates with the audio to make the kit sound more alive

- more outputs 8 instead of 6 + one slot for digital expansion board (optional), with ex firewire, AES/EBU and ethersound for professional PA systems.

- balanced audio outputs to eliminate need of DI boxes on stage.

- larger display

- remote control for vst and daw software

- Mediaplayer for standard midifiles, aiff and wav that can be used as stand alone (routed separately to midi and audio outputs), independent of the selected kit. Easy to make setlists, making it possible for the drummer to control ex a midi soundmodule and have separate clickoutput when playing together with a band that use backingtracks.

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Re: My wishes for DrumIT 6
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2011, 12:51:07 PM »
First of all...better quality hardware with less toy feeling !

Available in more colors.

- I suggest use of standard L-arms compatible with Tama for tom toms (like Ddrum4), to make it easier to combine drumpads with other acoustic drums with use of same stands and rack.

- A soundmodule that can be mounted in rack i addition to be mounted on the rackstand. Ex looking more like the design of Roland V-synth xt module.

- simulation of audio crosstalk and acoustic resonance. Like when you hit a tom the other toms also resonates with the audio to make the kit sound more alive

- more outputs 8 instead of 6 + one slot for digital expansion board (optional), with ex firewire, AES/EBU and ethersound for professional PA systems.

- balanced audio outputs to eliminate need of DI boxes on stage.

- larger display

- remote control for vst and daw software

- Mediaplayer for standard midifiles, aiff and wav that can be used as stand alone (routed separately to midi and audio outputs), independent of the selected kit. Easy to make setlists, making it possible for the drummer to control ex a midi soundmodule and have separate clickoutput when playing together with a band that use backingtracks.

balanced outputs! Yes please!

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Re: My wishes for DrumIT 6
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2011, 08:19:47 PM »
First of all...better quality hardware with less toy feeling !

Available in more colors.

- I suggest use of standard L-arms compatible with Tama for tom toms (like Ddrum4), to make it easier to combine drumpads with other acoustic drums with use of same stands and rack.

- A soundmodule that can be mounted in rack i addition to be mounted on the rackstand. Ex looking more like the design of Roland V-synth xt module.

- simulation of audio crosstalk and acoustic resonance. Like when you hit a tom the other toms also resonates with the audio to make the kit sound more alive

- more outputs 8 instead of 6 + one slot for digital expansion board (optional), with ex firewire, AES/EBU and ethersound for professional PA systems.

- balanced audio outputs to eliminate need of DI boxes on stage.

- larger display

- remote control for vst and daw software

- Mediaplayer for standard midifiles, aiff and wav that can be used as stand alone (routed separately to midi and audio outputs), independent of the selected kit. Easy to make setlists, making it possible for the drummer to control ex a midi soundmodule and have separate clickoutput when playing together with a band that use backingtracks.

please skip this topic and make 2box drumit 5 the best there is ,and the best there ever will be!!!

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My wishes for DrumIT 6
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2013, 10:23:01 PM »
I don't care about the sounds. I send MIDI to BFD3 on a PC. What I want is a more capable set of Trigger to MIDI converters. One that can handle any situation of triggering MIDI. The optimum solution is the following in my opinion:

The drum brain I think the world would buy:
Inputs: (11) ¼” stereo. Two of inputs can be used for controllers, foot switches, etc. Why 11? That’s one octave if you want to daisy chain a xylophone.  One unit would be ok for a small kit, and two units for a large kit.
Two USB connections, and one LED to know it has power and is working. The LED can flash and change color for any needed diagnostics or bois updates.
Make a it a single piece of molded plastic. USB connections on the sides configured so they can be plugged together in a long strip or with a cable if there is not room for a long strip. (May want to stack instead of strip)
Everything would be controlled through USB connections via computer and or pad application. No interface or LCD readout required!

Design it to be capable of the following:
1.   Like existing brains work (1 trigger, 2 triggers, 1 trigger +1 switch, 1 trigger + 2 switch) –How it’s designed to work by Roland
2.   Two simple triggers/input (1 trigger and 1 trigger) –how most people work in DYI circles
3.   One drum using two inputs (For separate rim and head levels) Do everything possible (head position, Xstrick, Variable rim shot level for each head level) –How I want to work
4.   The two controller inputs for hats, ride, or any controller/footswitch. Also usable for as trigger inputs or you have to go to 13 plugs/unit – Saves cost for mass production
5.   And old school, use a microphone or line input, for converting real sounds or triggering from a mic live. – forces inputs to be robust, unlikely to blow, and opens up new capabilities.

This is very similar in concept to the Roland TMC-6. This product had it right, but lacked some of the bells and whistles like position sensing and set points for CC’s and was pre USB. This product was too early to market because sample libraries has not been built up yet. Now is the right time for a good product like this.

If you can make more information available to software, then it can be used. Right now there are shortcoming of available information. MIDI is in need of an update but works as a starting point. If you could make the MIDI standard non-serial, this would be the major update.

Would start at 500$/unit, and get down to 200$/unit if mass produced and can sell more than 10K units (costing 25$/unit to mass produce). It’s the software and triggers that make the money. The trigger inputs should be the cheapest part of the system.  I recently suggested this to BFD3, if you joined forces with them and sold BFD3 with your kits….you could take over Roland’s place in the market. It’s the management of the software development that’s costly and why I suggest you join forces with FXpansion. They have the sounds and the software team. You manufacture triggers and brains.
Update the standards for drum triggers and you win the market!

Leave the D/A conversion to the computers or the speakers.

Here are the things that I think make a trigger kit feel like a drum set:
Drum and cymbal sizes like a real set (Pintech’s large rides tracked poorly, the Roland CY15RG is current best on market for ride, but is too small) (Hart 13”snare is best large drum on the market)
High hat controller that responds quickly. Currently using VH13/TD-30 and considering a pintech cable controller. BFD3 allows for good split point control with the hats on CC#4
Variable rim level for every head level in addition to positioning. (Sound management is a problem), nobody wants to take the time to create a matrix snare sound = function (volume, Rim level) 64x64 = 4096 samples / drum is to too expensive
                This is only practically accomplished by mixing a head and rim sound together.
Variable cymbal positioning and a bell that can be hit at any volume separate from the general cymbal positioning.
Reliable triggering at any volume. From what I see on the internet, the inhead sensors are much better than pizio’s but only work as single zone and don’t have a mesh head yet. Mix and match it up.

In general, if you make an abundance of trigger information available, then people can figure out how to use it. Because this is a changing market, software that can be updated is the way to go.

I’m hoping that your company or KAT makes the right set of next triggers because Roland is a monster who is making a killing providing ok products for way too much money. Roland is lazy when it comes to real innovation.

I hope this helps you in some way.

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Re: My wishes for DrumIT 6
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2015, 06:20:06 PM »
***MUCH BETTER CYMBAL TRIGGERING/CONSISTENCY*** THIS IS REALLY CRUCIAL!!

EQ AND COMPRESSOR CONFIGURABLE FOR EVERY PAD (EVERY CHANNEL) THIS IS CRUCIAL!!

BETTER SOUNDING SNARE DRUM AND BASS DRUM SAMPLES


I LOVE THIS E DRUM SET AND WILL SUPPORT IT FOREVER!! ITS BY FAR THE BEST IN THE WORLD GREAT JOB GUYS KEEP MAKING IT BETTER AND BETTER!! I LOVE YOU!