Paying for it

[Slap the drummer]

Another set of multivelocity samples in wav format - to buy 

http://www.voxengo.com/group/drum-samples/#acd-hh14-sb-hh-r

It has the advantage that you can buy just an individual bit of a kit if you
prefer - eg nearly 1400 different Hi-hat samples for 15usd.

There are individual demo samples clearly laid out on the page, so it's easy to find
out if you like them.

[Jman]

Another set of multivelocity samples in wav format - to buy 

http://www.voxengo.com/group/drum-samples/#acd-hh14-sb-hh-r

It has the advantage that you can buy just an individual bit of a kit if you
prefer - eg nearly 1400 different Hi-hat samples for 15usd.

There are individual demo samples clearly laid out on the page, so it's easy to find
out if you like them.

Thanks for the tip. I just bought the HH and the Maple Snare, thought I'd start with that ... especially the HH ... Jerry

[Jman]

Big TWO THUMBS UP for your input Slap!!!
SCARY ....yup, I'm Sample Illiterate.... So the whole process was with fear and trembling. I bought NDK last night. Downloaded the trial of Sound Forge this morning ...... 1st off .... the amount of samples in the NDK pack is .... well ... let me put it this way .... I started the download of NDK last night about 11 or 12 midnite ... don't remember exactly. What I do know is I have a fairly fast Net connection ... so I thought nothin of it .... about 3 in the morning the download and installation was done ..... just a whole sh_tload of high quality wave files!!!

I've sent Slap plenty of questions .... but mostly it is just a question of going through the conversion and dsnd building process the first time ..... then it is a piece of cake ....  after creating my first snare .... my second one only took a couple minutes .... OK, I'm gonna work on creating a bunch of new snares, HH's, toms and kicks ....

I've only built 2 14" snare so far, one mtl. one Rock ... but already I have forgotten about the $$$ investment .... not sorry a bit.
With Louis' Dsoundtool the whole process now is relatively painless .....
Plus One more fan for the NDK samples .... glad for the addition.....

And big thanks to Slap .... you da drummer MAN J

[edcito]

Wow amazing sounds there! Thanks for the heads up mate!

Seeing how the collaboration between 2box and BFD just went down the drain, it would be interesting if 2box could do some business with these smaller companies. I would gladly pay for the module to include already some extra hihat samples like this from voxengo. It's not that hard enough is it?
I could picture it like this:
1. User buys 2 box preloaded with the instruments we already know
2. 2box indicates somewhere in the manual or website, that they offer the capability to load more samples from NDK, Voxengo etc. for an extra price.
3. User buys this add-ons and receives a .dnsd which can load onto the module without having to go through the tedious process of converting and bouncing and whatnot
4. User is ecstatic and recommends the 2box to all his neighbours, cousins and girlfriends
What do you think 2box? is just business....

[Jman]

 

I'm dancin here .... oh yeah ..... 3rd time's a charm .... my first 2 HH sound building attempts were .... eh ..... OK ..... but I am starting to get the hang of this sucka now .... I just built a 292MB HH based on the 13" NDK stk HH .... Full open, Fully closed, 5 middle transitions plus foot splash and foot chick .... and it sounds marvelous ..... thanks Slap .... finally hearing what I was lookin for and getting a response I can predict on the HH transitions ..... lovin this .... been at it all day ... but time well spent .... Cool .... J

[puttenvr]

Are we able to (anyhow) share in this joy by hearing (or using) those sounds ?

[Jman]

Are we able to (anyhow) share in this joy by hearing (or using) those sounds ?

Hey Put .... wazzzzup? I'm workin my fingers to the bone this weekend .... converting NDK files, then building some new instruments with dsoundtool ... but I'll put up a demo in the next week or so. I've come from the VH-12 type response of the TD-20X .... and frankly that is a pretty darn nice responding HH .... I can honestly say now though that the D5 HH can have marvelous playability with the right dsnd files.... IMO the biggest problem is the lack of samples/transitions in the stock HH .dsnd files ... after building a couple with 5 middle transitions and the max no of files for each zone allowed on the drumit 5 .... I'm smilin! I would say my HH is now equal to or better than the response of the VH-12 on the TD-20X ... and the sounds are ..... well ..... REAL!

As far as sharing dsnd's ..... I guess that is a good topic for discussion .... I could definitely see sharing files between members that own the particular sample pack used .... But that is kind of shakey ground with VST's cause I've already read that companies like BFD, and Superior wouldn't even want us doing that! So, I'll leave that topic for another thread ..... OK, got 1 HH I am totally pleased with so far..... a couple nice snares ..... time to play with a kick or 2 .... later, J

[Slap the drummer]

I think maybe I should have stressed something a bit more......

It really is very easy to turn a sample library like these into 2box sounds.
I can't really get my head round things like midi and VST and all the rest, but this
I picked up from scratch no probs.  You just need some patience because it is a
chore.... but it's dead straightforward.....  maybe Jerry will back me up on this 

[Slap the drummer]

Just had a newsletter from Analogue Drums.....

two new kits from the makers of BIG MONO: kingpin and plastique, 40usd each

http://www.analoguedrums.com/products.php

Looks like they're now offering more substantial sampling than their earlier kits.

[Jman]

I think maybe I should have stressed something a bit more......

It really is very easy to turn a sample library like these into 2box sounds.
I can't really get my head round things like midi and VST and all the rest, but this
I picked up from scratch no probs.  You just need some patience because it is a
chore.... but it's dead straightforward.....  maybe Jerry will back me up on this 

Very Easy .... for instance: with NDK the waves have to be converted from 48KHZ to 44KHZ first, but with Sound Forge that is easy too and you can convert lots of folders at the same time. Most of the instruments you just take the entire folder of waves and turn them directly into dsnd's. I created 10 kicks in less than an hour, same thing with snares. The max number of samples for one zone is 99 .... so let's say a kick has less than that already .... just take the entire folder and make that into a dsnd in Dsoundtool. If the drum you are making has 105 files in the folder, just delete 6 of the files and do the same. I had little clue about the whole process before last weekend ... and now it is a piece of cake.

[Jman]

I was inquiring about VST libraries and usable WAV files on another forum ... one member mentioned a software tool ... Extreme Sample Converter: http://www.extranslator.com/index.php?page=exsc
Not sure if anyone has ever looked into that .... but I was told you could take a VST program and convert to WAV .... thought it was worth mentioning .... dunno....

[Slap the drummer]

I was inquiring about VST libraries and usable WAV files on another forum ... one member mentioned a software tool ... Extreme Sample Converter: http://www.extranslator.com/index.php?page=exsc
Not sure if anyone has ever looked into that .... but I was told you could take a VST program and convert to WAV .... thought it was worth mentioning .... dunno....

I wish I understood these things.  Can anybody clarify this?

Wd this mean we cd take something like the Abbey Road sets from Native Instruments and translate
them into wav files without too much complicated hassle?  (Obviously we wd have to buy the Abbey
Road stuff first).

I love the look of those drum libraries.

[Slap the drummer]

Jet City Update

Going back a few posts, I bought this but didn't get what I was expecting.
Anyway, Jim from StudioCat has kindly made available stereo versions of the
8 channel files, and I've finally finished downloading them.

49usd gets you 17gig of high quality samples, so on paper it looks to be pretty
good value.

I'm starting a new thread under Software where I'll just jot down my random thoughts
as I go along.

[Jman]

Jet City Update

Going back a few posts, I bought this but didn't get what I was expecting.
Anyway, Jim from StudioCat has kindly made available stereo versions of the
8 channel files, and I've finally finished downloading them.

49usd gets you 17gig of high quality samples, so on paper it looks to be pretty
good value.

I'm starting a new thread under Software where I'll just jot down my random thoughts
as I go along.

Definitely looking forward to your thoughts on this one ...

Also: The Analogue Drums  ... especially the Plastique kit sounds really good to me... but I have my doubts whether there will be sufficient layers to get decent dsnds from it without doing a lot of extra work.