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Hi hat calibration issue- maybe
« on: March 03, 2019, 12:37:21 AM »
I normally use a goedrum controller but was trying out an Alesis realhat pedal. Could not get the Raw adjustment to move when Def was selected but it did work with selecting Alehh and would calibrate correctly , set Raw to around 854. I saved my settings (and yes, save is enabled) then after powering off then back on the module would only play a closed hat sound and no pedal function whatsoever until I would go back to the hi hat calibration page. The Raw would hang at 954 and seemed like it wasn’t recognizing the pedal until I would select either 2box or Def, then reselect Allehh again then it would recognize the pedal (you could see the Raw data moving from its closed 854 to open 954) and start working again until powered down. Happened every time I would restart. Once set it would work fine until the next power down them repeat.
Another issue that happened occasionally is the cymbal 3 (single zone) with one cable in the 3a slot nothing in 3 b slot would want to play a choked cymbal sound. I tried different cymbal pad types (wound up using Cyps) and having only one + in the middle setting. Again only happened when powering off and back on. Not every time like the hat.
Anyone have any ideas as to what could be going on. Thanks
« Last Edit: March 03, 2019, 12:44:04 AM by Rmiller »

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Re: Hi hat calibration issue- maybe
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2019, 07:25:55 AM »
Hi!

Regarding your hh issue I must say it sounds real strange. My feeling is that the Three is very stable when using it in 2box mode or Def for Rolands. I am guessing you have the same experience with the go Edrum controller in def model. This is valid if not moved etc.

However, I have never tried anything in Alesis mode - a question - do the hh edge trigger work when raw is stucked before doing the calib again?

It looks like 2box have the Alesis Crimson series, DM 10 series and Alesis Pro X lister under the supporter hi-hats in the documents.

Have You tried it in def mode?

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Re: Hi hat calibration issue- maybe
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2019, 12:32:48 PM »
The goedrum works fine in def. Alesis realhat only seems to work in Alehh mode. I get a closed hat sound on the edge but no pedal input (open, closed, chick etc) on boot up. When deselecting then reselecting Aleah everything works again. No need to recalibrate. I tried def but nothing happens, can’t adjust Raw and no pedal response as well. When in def is it normal for the raw adjustment screw to not respond? I tried different cables as well. I am trying to figure out if the controller has an issue even though it works fine once I get it going or is there a problem in the module.
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Re: Hi hat calibration issue- maybe
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2019, 01:11:30 PM »
Hi!

Was it possible to run it in def mode at all?

My guessing: the pedal is slightly out of range in impedance...the reason is that the raw value is very high. (Like over 950+)

You could try add a resistor on the tip connection (so the pedal tip signal runs through the resistor) you could try to add a resistor value between 2 to 8 k ohm and see if it improving the signal.

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Re: Hi hat calibration issue- maybe
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2019, 06:49:12 PM »
Will not run in def mode. Edge on the hat cymbal pad triggers an open sound but pedal does not respond at all. Raw shows 954 and won’t adjust at all when in def and just gets a no change when trying to calibrate. May be too hot a signal and needs a resistor.

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Re: Hi hat calibration issue- maybe
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2019, 02:01:22 AM »
I hooked my goedrum controller back up and now it won’t calibrate in def mode. Can’t adjust raw at all. Hung at 955 and won’t adjust with the screw in the back. No pedal response at all. It will respond in aleh mode but not in def like it used to. Is the circuit fried or do I need to do a factory reset or reformat and reload the backup on the sd card. I really don’t want to have to start over setting up all the pads but I have tried about everything I can think of. Anyone else experience this issue?

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Re: Hi hat calibration issue- maybe
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2019, 05:13:34 AM »
Hi!

No I don’t think anything can be “fried” in tha hihat pedal system. It is quite secured and controlled.

Check the cables and do the universal trick to reserve the hihat pedal when doing the calibration, e.g when calibrating closed you physically keep the hihat open and when in open mode you press down the hihat to closed. This will make it to reset and hopefully wake it up.

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