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Zourman Drums Hi-hat Conversion Module for ddrum 4 SE

Started by ANGR77, January 28, 2018, 08:46:43 PM

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ANGR77

Hi best friends!

About 2 months ago I got a my hands on an old ddrum 4 SE module. (Got it from a friend!)

As a spinoff when I got the ddrum 4SE module and also from a couple of requests from customers asking - Can't you develop a hi-hat conversion for Roland hi-hats and the ddrum 4se?

So well...I thought, no problem I can do this and I started the project - however - it was not so easy as I thought and it took me like 100 hours to complete. I am not 100% ready yet but I think it is working ok already - some fine tuning which still remains.

Results: https://youtu.be/URgH1sgr9YE

Best Regards

Anders / www.zourman.com /

Sonor Safari, Pearl Crystalbeat, Zourman Triggers, Roland & Triggera, 2box Cymbals & HH, RT-10, KT-10, BT-1, VH-11/12/13, ATV hh, KT-10, 14C/13R/15R, PCY-155, MD, 2Box 5 MK1&II & 3, DD4SE, Pearl ButtKicker Addictive Drums 2.1.14, all ADPaks moved to 2box, Zourman Conversion Gears www.zourman.com

ANGR77



The Roland hi-hat conversion module for ddrum4 SE is now available on https://zourman.com/products/roland-hi-hat-conversion-modules-for-ddrum4-se/

Best regards

Anders / www.zourman.com
Sonor Safari, Pearl Crystalbeat, Zourman Triggers, Roland & Triggera, 2box Cymbals & HH, RT-10, KT-10, BT-1, VH-11/12/13, ATV hh, KT-10, 14C/13R/15R, PCY-155, MD, 2Box 5 MK1&II & 3, DD4SE, Pearl ButtKicker Addictive Drums 2.1.14, all ADPaks moved to 2box, Zourman Conversion Gears www.zourman.com

oddrum

I just bought a used VH-11 and ordered one of Zourman's conversion modules.  Can't wait to play it with my ddrum 4 SE.

Hoping the VH-11 is better in a few ways:

1) quieter than the original rubber pad on metal hi-hat,
2) physically more like a real hi hat symbol (with a bit of the swing),
3) more sound variations between open and closed positions.

My plan is to improve my ddrum based kit slowly and perhaps eventually get a 2box when the new ones finally get to the US.

So my strategy is to get triggers that will work with ddrum 4 SE *and* Drummit 3. Next step is a new kick drum. The original ddrum kick drum is pretty good but I have issues with it's stability and tendency to retrigger.

Anyone have any recommendations for either solving the issues and/or a better kick drum solution that is ddrum 4 SE and Drummit 3 compatible?

Thanks for any advice...

Owen

ANGR77

Hi!

I am really hoping that the ZD Conversation for dd4se will meet your expectations!
It is going to be interesting to see if you like it!

Regarding the kick drum alternatives I have tried the following gears with positive results on my DD4SE:

  • Roland RT-10K external trigger with Remo Silent Stroke
  • Roland KT-10 Kick pedal

Best regards

Anders / www.zourman.com / hi-hat conversations for 2box & DD4SE.
Sonor Safari, Pearl Crystalbeat, Zourman Triggers, Roland & Triggera, 2box Cymbals & HH, RT-10, KT-10, BT-1, VH-11/12/13, ATV hh, KT-10, 14C/13R/15R, PCY-155, MD, 2Box 5 MK1&II & 3, DD4SE, Pearl ButtKicker Addictive Drums 2.1.14, all ADPaks moved to 2box, Zourman Conversion Gears www.zourman.com

SynapticGroove

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Anders,

I should be ordering a conversion module by summer.  Are they a limited run?

Cheers for the blood, sweat & tears!

Benjamin

ANGR77

No - this is for life...:-) - I have parts to create about 25 boxes...and I build them to order.

Best Regards

Anders / www.zourman.com
Sonor Safari, Pearl Crystalbeat, Zourman Triggers, Roland & Triggera, 2box Cymbals & HH, RT-10, KT-10, BT-1, VH-11/12/13, ATV hh, KT-10, 14C/13R/15R, PCY-155, MD, 2Box 5 MK1&II & 3, DD4SE, Pearl ButtKicker Addictive Drums 2.1.14, all ADPaks moved to 2box, Zourman Conversion Gears www.zourman.com

SynapticGroove

Anders,

Fantastic!  While I don't mind the DD4SE hi-hat, it takes some finagling to get it to, for example, trigger Addictive Drums correctly.  I think the more modern offerings will be less problematic.

Now, if I could only completely figure out the compression scheme that Clavia used for the DD4/4SE samples, man it would really unlock the potential of that module! :)

That being said, I still fancy a Drumit 3 module in the future.

Best,

Benjamin

ANGR77

Hi - some history of the sounds found in DD4SE:

The DD4SE sound compression was a complex and advanced thing. The sounds were compiled using a 68K based MAC with a custom written Clavia app. The fabric sounds are actually consisting of 10 layers of 8 bit samples and a very special "round robin with filters" to take away the machine gun effects. The sounds were compressed 6 times in size. So I am guessing it won't be possible to create new sounds to the DD4SE...too much special stuff and solutions.

Best Regards

Anders / www.zourman.com
Sonor Safari, Pearl Crystalbeat, Zourman Triggers, Roland & Triggera, 2box Cymbals & HH, RT-10, KT-10, BT-1, VH-11/12/13, ATV hh, KT-10, 14C/13R/15R, PCY-155, MD, 2Box 5 MK1&II & 3, DD4SE, Pearl ButtKicker Addictive Drums 2.1.14, all ADPaks moved to 2box, Zourman Conversion Gears www.zourman.com

SynapticGroove

Anders,

Thanks for the info!

Yeah, it seems as though the Ddrum4SE compression algorithm is lost to posterity.  What a shame!