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Re: Roland owner launches competitor for Vdrums
« Reply #30 on: January 18, 2016, 07:48:41 PM »
Looks like Roland pads to me.

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Re: Roland owner launches competitor for Vdrums
« Reply #31 on: January 18, 2016, 07:53:09 PM »
Drum pads are from Drum Tec

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Re: Roland owner launches competitor for Vdrums
« Reply #32 on: January 18, 2016, 08:01:04 PM »
Sorry, when he said 'Pads' I read 'Cymbals' lol.

My first impression was the cymbals were Rolands, but watching again, I think there is a mixture there of Yammies and Rolands.

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Re: Roland owner launches competitor for Vdrums
« Reply #33 on: January 18, 2016, 08:18:41 PM »
Yep

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Re: Roland owner launches competitor for Vdrums
« Reply #34 on: January 22, 2016, 05:34:35 AM »
Just back from demo at NAMM. It's a pretty impressive unit. Nice build quality and 11 trigger inputs. It looks like it will work wiTh both Roland and Yamaha style triggers (pads and cymbal's).

It is currently in a very basic state and strictly a sample player. There really aren't any onboard sound modifiers in the software but I expect they are coming. It is unclear how new samples are loaded into the unit. However I can say that the samples have multi level playback (no modeling) and that the software allows 127 multi samples per trigger. Only the snare and ride cymbal pads offer 3 zone patches. All the others are 2 zone.

I was surprised at the small physical size. It's less than half the size of the 2box system. So I think it has a long way to go with the firmware... But it has interesting bones for sure.
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Re: Roland owner launches competitor for Vdrums
« Reply #35 on: January 22, 2016, 07:35:07 AM »
Thanks for the initial report.

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Re: Roland owner launches competitor for Vdrums
« Reply #36 on: January 23, 2016, 10:00:38 PM »
Yeah, I got some time with them in the ATV booth, known Mike for years, so it was good seeing him on board with them. As far as how many samples, and that kind of specifics ..... those aren't really being disclosed. If they mentioned 127 ..... that is simply a figure which means there are generally 127 ... actually 128 MIDI note no. velocity levels that note nos. are assigned to. So even though a module can play back a sample of any velocity level up to 127/128 ...... that doesn't mean there will be that many velocity samples on board for each instrument ...... Not even close from what I am guessing. Anyway, very much of this at this point is TBD ..... To Be Determined ..... I was giving the guys from Japan a hard time in the booth joking they should rename the company TBD instead of ATV.  ;)

But joking aside, I did sit down and play the kit and I felt like it played pretty nice. The sounds are definitely sample based, less processed than your typical edrum module (except 2Box of course). The MAP will be $1099 US. 5 kits is what it has on board and what it will ship with. Another TBD is whether you will be able to download new sounds for free, or via buying more kits, etc.

The Cat5 connector is also a ??? for now. I suggested they should really utilize that for adding more potential outputs ...... I mean 2 outs just doesn't cut it IMO, except maybe for someone practicing at home. And that connector could make a big difference if the potential were tapped into.

AFAIK, there are NO splittable inputs, so what you see is what you get. The tom inputs are single zone.

No reverb, room, or processing effects on board as mentioned already.

As a 2Box user that really has delved into the potential of the 2Box module I am not one that would be won over easily and this will have no real draw for me....... Let's face it guys, we are spoiled!!!

But as I have posted already, this is another good indication that the edrum industry is finally "getting it" with the potential to utilize the real sample based kits.
« Last Edit: January 23, 2016, 10:04:46 PM by Jman »
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Re: Roland owner launches competitor for Vdrums
« Reply #37 on: January 24, 2016, 04:00:43 AM »
Yes, I recall hearing there were only 5 kits onboard. I asked how much internal sample memory the was but was told that was still a secret. However I did hear that the 5 loaded kits was only using up 15% of the internal storage.

I thought the sound was very high quality and there was no machine gunning as far as I could tell.

But yes, it is still very early on in the overall development. Lots of potential here, but I'll  be waiting for rev2.
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Re: Roland owner launches competitor for Vdrums
« Reply #38 on: January 24, 2016, 04:24:55 AM »
Yes, I recall hearing there were only 5 kits onboard. I asked how much internal sample memory the was but was told that was still a secret. However I did hear that the 5 loaded kits was only using up 15% of the internal storage.

I thought the sound was very high quality and there was no machine gunning as far as I could tell.

But yes, it is still very early on in the overall development. Lots of potential here, but I'll  be waiting for rev2.
Yeah, it does tick some of the important boxes ..... and after using the 2Box and building lots of really incredible instruments/kits  ...... well, we are a pretty tough audience ....  ;D
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Re: Roland owner launches competitor for Vdrums
« Reply #39 on: January 25, 2016, 05:08:11 AM »
well, we are a pretty tough audience ....  ;D

Well it's all started with PC VST\Samples Standard, without them I am not sure how the Edrum Market  would be right now, they really set new way for edrum and the bar high against limited Drum sound module stock sound, it's became near a.... when comparing the sound, it would still be the same like before without 2box?  PC ruined Hardware Multitrack recorder sales and hardware production since PC\MAC Music soft came so popular, most record with them now from computer...

For me Module which don't deliver what 2box or capable to imports sound with at least considerable of samples, its just a kind of back to 10 years ago once again, unless you use it for practice and don't care about layers and plastic\machine sounds..
« Last Edit: January 25, 2016, 05:13:38 AM by chris k »

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Re: Roland owner launches competitor for Vdrums
« Reply #40 on: January 25, 2016, 02:13:46 PM »
something is cooking over there at their website, it's already listed as 'in stock' and €815 ex VAT.
http://atveurope.com/ad5
You cannot order it though, there's no order button yet. At least their website is nice and is being updated, not like 2box.se which still lists the Musikmesse 2012 on its front page LOL....

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Re: Roland owner launches competitor for Vdrums
« Reply #41 on: January 27, 2016, 02:46:56 AM »
something is cooking over there at their website, it's already listed as 'in stock' and €815 ex VAT.
http://atveurope.com/ad5
You cannot order it though, there's no order button yet. At least their website is nice and is being updated, not like 2box.se which still lists the Musikmesse 2012 on its front page LOL....
That would be trade price, for dealer orders, I suspect.
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Re: Roland owner launches competitor for Vdrums
« Reply #42 on: February 15, 2016, 07:52:52 PM »
These video show how much sample have on each zone, no hiding sensitivity tweak, direct result.

http://youtu.be/LtEFCj0LJH8
http://youtu.be/-t2zy_bpMvs
http://youtu.be/ginEief1DcE
« Last Edit: February 15, 2016, 08:11:15 PM by chris k »

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Re: Roland owner launches competitor for Vdrums
« Reply #43 on: February 15, 2016, 11:09:23 PM »
These video show how much sample have on each zone, no hiding sensitivity tweak, direct result.

http://youtu.be/LtEFCj0LJH8
http://youtu.be/-t2zy_bpMvs
http://youtu.be/ginEief1DcE

hi ....
the links arent working .... it says it s a private video ...

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Re: Roland owner launches competitor for Vdrums
« Reply #44 on: February 16, 2016, 02:59:08 AM »
hi ....
the links arent working .... it says it s a private video ...

Allan removed them, it was him doing the demo, there was test video..