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The 2Box e-cymbal with 3 zones...
« on: September 15, 2015, 07:15:28 PM »
I am guessing that this topic have been covered many time before...but I did not find any good topic when searching the forum.

The 2Box cymbal have 3 zones + the choke...how is this really working? I think I red that you Jman offers 3 Zone stealth cymbals...

How are they built ... 2 switches + piezo...or ....?


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Re: The 2Box e-cymbal with 3 zones...
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2015, 04:08:53 AM »
Found it....Google is your friend...
http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php?topic=1253.0
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Re: The 2Box e-cymbal with 3 zones...
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2015, 07:16:47 AM »
Hi!

I had some general thoughts about how 2Box do the bell/bow separation? One thing they measure is how hard you have hit the cymbal. You will have a higher voltage range if you hit on the bell but I am also thinking the 2Box module is also able to determine a bell hit by looking on the wave form and measures the time between the first positive wave to the second positive wave. I am guessing the curve time will differ if you compare a bell hit with a bow hit.

Anyone who have some thoughts, input or comments on this? :-)

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Re: The 2Box e-cymbal with 3 zones...
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2015, 06:48:57 PM »
Hi!

I had some general thoughts about how 2Box do the bell/bow separation? One thing they measure is how hard you have hit the cymbal. You will have a higher voltage range if you hit on the bell but I am also thinking the 2Box module is also able to determine a bell hit by looking on the wave form and measures the time between the first positive wave to the second positive wave. I am guessing the curve time will differ if you compare a bell hit with a bow hit.

Anyone who have some thoughts, input or comments on this? :-)

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Yep. No. My observations tell me that it's only about the strength of the hit reaching the piezo that determines the zone, because if I hit very light on the bell, I can get a bow sound, and if I hit really hard on the bow, I can get a bell sound. But for 99% of playing, the system works really well, as long as the gain and separation (L/M/H) is set correctly.

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Re: The 2Box e-cymbal with 3 zones...
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2015, 09:54:55 PM »
Great feedback! Many thank! I was starting to wonder if I was completely alone in the hardware forum area! :-) Could also be that the Swedish guy asked questions which are common knowledge for everybody except...:-)

Yes - you are right...I took a oscilloscope today and scanned the signal and the selection of sounds are totally based on the velocity. Nothing else!

This knowledge could maybe open up a couple of opportunities and a invention...

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