Author Topic: DSND Files from BFD  (Read 34962 times)

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Re: BFD exports for .dsnds
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2012, 09:10:55 PM »

I wonder if Zildjan Gen16 Digital Vault works the same as BFD2 for importing.


The Gen 16 packs just add sounds to BFD ,so I guess they would work the same.
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Re: BFD exports for .dsnds
« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2012, 10:33:09 PM »

I wonder if Zildjan Gen16 Digital Vault works the same as BFD2 for importing.

Bought Zildjian Digital Vault pack 1 and 2 on a special a few days ago (buy one get one free) ... really like the Hi Hats, I've already built most of the packs into dsnds including a nice Gong.
picked up the Sonic Reality Peart kit the other day and am presently working on that one with my first dry setup and one more roomy ... You can actually look and see exactly how many WAV hits are in all the BFD packs which is making it a lot less guesswork creating my files and dsnds. Still experimenting, but getting good results ..... I am still very happy with the various SD2 packs I've worked with and believe thus far I still prefer those ...
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Re: BFD exports for .dsnds
« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2012, 10:51:31 PM »
Hi jman, was thinking of buying the Peart kit too, how does it sound? Is it worth getting?

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Re: BFD exports for .dsnds
« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2012, 11:57:48 PM »
Hi jman, was thinking of buying the Peart kit too, how does it sound? Is it worth getting?

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Yeah, I'm not normally a Peart Groupie .... but man, there are 8 Toms, snare's nice and the HH too ... so .... that alone works for me ... plus I found it at $100 US here:
http://altomusic.com/shop/Sonic-Reality-Neil-Peart-Drums--The-Kit-For-Bfd---Digital-Download_pid104247.am

It says currently on order, but that is just because it is Digital Download, so they send you a download link and license in about 24 hrs. after purchase.

Not sure about international sales though.... but it is a digital download ... so maybe...
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Re: BFD exports for .dsnds
« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2012, 08:53:47 AM »
Thanks for the link, I'll check it out.

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Re: BFD exports for .dsnds
« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2012, 10:42:45 AM »
Hi guys,

I've created a quick doc on how I do the sounds from BFD2. Its in open office format so should be ok for most people. If you find any mistakes or want to update something let me know!

Here's the link:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19242611/BFD2%20to%20DSND.docx

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Re: BFD exports for .dsnds
« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2012, 08:22:28 PM »
Hi guys,

I've created a quick doc on how I do the sounds from BFD2. Its in open office format so should be ok for most people. If you find any mistakes or want to update something let me know!

Here's the link:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19242611/BFD2%20to%20DSND.docx

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Thanks for this. Combined with Slap's instructions, there's no reason any BFD  owner can't produce DSNDs now.
Just one observation: I  find that BFD produces some messy DSNDs. I have done a few kit pieces now and each one has had some odd hits - either two or more joined, long or short decays, etc which need to be removed manually.
I have tired pushing Velocity to Amp to 100% and Vel to Rnd to O.
Are other finding the same thing?
« Last Edit: March 19, 2012, 10:02:32 PM by digitalDrummer »
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Re: BFD exports for .dsnds
« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2012, 08:43:40 PM »
Thanks for this. Combined with Slap's instructions, there's no reason any BFD  owner can't produce DSNDs now.
Just one observation: I  find that BFD produces some messy DSNDs. I have done a few kit pieces now and each one has had some odd hits - either two ore more joined, long or short decays, etc which need to be removed manually.
I have tired pushing Velocity to Amp to 100% and Vel to Rnd to O.
Are other finding the same thing?

I've never had this issue with messy DSNDs. But I always ensure the master level never goes above or touches 0dB, maybe that's the key? Also I only use MIDI files generated by Louis sound tool so maybe there's something there too.

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Re: BFD exports for .dsnds
« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2012, 08:57:47 PM »
I've never had this issue with messy DSNDs. But I always ensure the master level never goes above or touches 0dB, maybe that's the key? Also I only use MIDI files generated by Louis sound tool so maybe there's something there too.

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Yes ..... extra seconds of gap between hits doesn't hurt a bit and they get trimmed off anyway when doing the dsnds, plus extremely important to keep the volumes low enough .... I go to the mixer page and look at the instrument channels and the master channel and adjust all so nothing hits above zero.
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Re: BFD exports for .dsnds
« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2012, 03:13:29 AM »
Just to go back on the volumes ..... Actually Less than O on the Master volumes ... I think it is important to keep those out of ANY RED at all! ..... that means, less than 0 on the master volumes .... at least that is what works for me ... I was having problems with the dsnds I built the first day when the volumes were high and also if the MIDIs were not long enough ... try to leave at least 1 or 2 seconds gap after all the bars are at rest. Look at everything in the Mixer that is being recorded, OH's the instrument, FX, Room, etc. etc. adjust your levels .... It is important to watch and listen to a few hits of your MIDI sequence on the Mixer page to see what is going on before exporting  ..... Another weird one that has happened to me several times is I would change the articulation ... start the sequence ... and for instance a snare rimshot would play on the first hit, then it would play head on the rest of the hits .... so when that happened ... I would go and remove/Cut the midi file, load it or a different one again and start over with the articulation I wanted ... that always works ...
« Last Edit: March 20, 2012, 03:46:59 PM by Jman »
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Re: BFD exports for .dsnds
« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2012, 07:58:43 AM »
Hi Jman,

I forgot to mention those points about the MIDI note gap lengths etc. in my document. I'll go back and update it this week when I get a chance.

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Re: BFD exports for .dsnds - updated BFD2 to DSND doc.
« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2012, 08:21:33 AM »
Hi guys,

I've updated the BFD2 to DSND doc and saved it as a PDF.

Here's the link: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19242611/BFD2%20to%20DSND.pdf

btw, is there a better place to post this on the site?

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« Last Edit: March 21, 2012, 08:23:36 AM by Brian-D (Haggis-man) »

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Re: BFD exports for .dsnds
« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2012, 10:29:29 PM »
With the kind permission from Brian-D, I put his description on the DSoundTool website, and created a new manual page: http://www.shortestpath.se/dsoundtool/manual/bfd2.html

I would like to write something about the legal aspects about BFD2, similar as in the Superior Drummer page of the manual. I remember that someone asked BFD2 if it was ok to use their samples in the 2box for private use and they replied that this was ok. But I cannot find this link. Anyone knows where it is?

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Re: BFD exports for .dsnds
« Reply #28 on: March 22, 2012, 01:39:59 AM »
I would like to write something about the legal aspects about BFD2, similar as in the Superior Drummer page of the manual. I remember that someone asked BFD2 if it was ok to use their samples in the 2box for private use and they replied that this was ok. But I cannot find this link. Anyone knows where it is?

yep, look here:

http://www.2box-forum.com/resources/

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Re: BFD exports for .dsnds
« Reply #29 on: March 22, 2012, 07:38:38 PM »