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Messages - mvdput

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Hi all,

I want to make some recordings of the pieces I play including video but I don't want to do the editing part afterwards and syncing the video with the audio. So I tried the following setup to record audio and video at once, but I think the audio quality can be improved, but not sure how?

My setup:
2Box -> mono jack from line-out 1 to Steinberg Ur22 mk11 external audiocard -> USB cable to MAcbook pro

On my MAcbook Pro I use Quicktime record audio and video at once but I am not satisfied with the audio quality. The recorded drums seem to sound not as real as they do in my earplugs.

I am open to suggestions or other ways to record but I prefer to record audio and video at the same time. I thought of midi-recording but that would force me to do the syncing etc. afterwards.

Anyone has good ideas or own experiences with recording the audio from 2Box?

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If spending a couple of dollars is ok, it might be worth the experiment to try a different external trigger , like one from Jman, Stealth drums.com, made specifically for 2 box, and maybe a different head like Roland, 682 drums, etc. After all  these are subjective choices based on your experience and  what you like and need.

It is not that I am not happy with my current setup, but curious if there are better setups or what the "ultimate" setup should be so I might reconsider a hardware upgrade.
Instead of just spending dollars and trying everything myself, we have a forum to ask fellow 2Box users about their experience ;)

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Hi there,

I did a conversion from Acoustic to Electric kit with a 2Box module and 2Box Trigit external triggers on Remo Silent Stroke mesh heads.

I wonder if the trigger types and mesh heads used, make a difference in the sound (like quality, velocity, depth etc.) that is triggered in the 2Box?


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I recently exported a few kits from SD2 with SDSE (with default setting) and I noticed that I have to turn up the volume of my 2Box module to the max to get a bit of decent sound. And it is still not how it should be.
Is it normal that the volume of custom exported kits is a lot lower than the standard stock sounds or am I doing something wrong and can I optimize some things?

I feel a bit like a n00b now....   ::)  because I noticed that in my 2Box Module I am able to set the initial volume levels for each pad/cymbal per kit....  In my custom exported kits from SD2 all pads/cymbals were set to 60-70% volume level. Turning the volume up resolves my issue with too low volumes...  ;D

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Thanks Lustar for your answer. I wonder how fellow 2Box users experience this and how do they solve this?

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I recently exported a few kits from SD2 with SDSE (with default setting) and I noticed that I have to turn up the volume of my 2Box module to the max to get a bit of decent sound. And it is still not how it should be.
Is it normal that the volume of custom exported kits is a lot lower than the standard stock sounds or am I doing something wrong and can I optimize some things?

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Setup guides and tips / Re: Trigger cancellation problem
« on: July 16, 2016, 01:10:57 PM »
Hi sn47som,

are you saying that when you hit a tom and a cymbal at the same time, the cymbal doesn't produce any sound? Because that is what I experience occasionally on both of the cymbals.

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e-drum DIY / modifications / Re: SD card compatibility list
« on: July 16, 2016, 08:55:01 AM »
I did the SD-card mod yesterday and ordered a few different SD-cards to try test their performance.

I ordered the following cards:
  • Transcend Premium 200x SDHC UHS-I 32Gb
  • Lexar Premium series 300x SDHC UHS-I 32gb
  • Lexar Professional 633x SDHC UHS-I 32Gb
  • Lexar Professional 1000x SDHC UHS-II 32Gb

I did the same performance test for every card with the HD Tune Pro software to see which card has the best performance. I used the internal SD card reader from my My Macbook Pro and was running HD Tune Pro in  Windows 7 on parallels desktop.

My standard ATP Pro Max card which came with the 2Box module





The Transcend card




Lexar Premium series 300x




Lexar Professional 633x




Lexar Professional 1000x








The Transcend and Lexar Premium seems ok if you look at access time and minimum transfer rate, however to be on the safe side I took the Lexar Professional 1000x and added my kits to them including a few custom kits from VST and tested it in the 2Box. So far no issues.


The Lexar Professional 1000x 32Gb costs about EUR 26,- to 35,- depending on the store.


The other cards I did not test in my 2Box.
 

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Hi Lustar,

thank you for clarifying this. I was not aware that the default SDSE settings should already be sufficient for exporting sounds from VST to the 2Box module. I will export a full kit and see what is does in the module.

I wonder if the panning-setting for each channel in the VST makes a difference when doing an export? I have some presets where some channels the panning for the left channel is set all the way to the left and vice-versa for the right channel. Does this influence the exported sound and should it be set to center for both sides?

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Hi Lustark,

thanks for your answer. As I am a newbie in the VST scene, I compared my own export to a few ones from 2Box and one from eNerd to see if my export was somewhere in the right direction, before doing a complete kit. I used the 14x14" GMS Coated Heads Tom from the Steven Slate Basic Rock preset in SD2.

I did see the Velocity Curve setting in Options/Convert and tried also the VST-option and modified the curve in SD2 (In the mapping section un velocity control. Am I doing that right?) to a lot less steep one and 2nd time to a very steep one but that did only make a very small difference.

The reason for this my question is that my own exported sound has less samples than ones from for example 2Box, less steps in verlocity and the volume drops very quick to a very low value. For which I think, again with my newbie knowledge of VST and exporting custom sounds, will result in less dynamic sounds on your 2Box....

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I started recently with Superior Drummer 2 and SDSE to create my own custom drumkits.
I took one of the basic presets in SD2 and exported only the Tom to see what the result looks like.

With DsoundTool I compared my exported 14 inch Tom to the 14 inch Red Sparkle Tom that you can download from the 2Box website, but I noticed that my velocity curve has a much steeper slope in the high volume than the .dsnd file from the 2Box Red Sparkle Tom.


This is the 2Box Red Sparkle Tom head:



This is my own exported Tom:




You notice the velocity drops a lot quicker in my exported Tom than in the 2Box one.


I played with several settings to try to modify the velocity curve to be more like the 2Box one, but I can;t seem to manage.
What do I need to do to recreate that same velocity curve?

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