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DrumIt 5 Hardware / Re: real feel cymbals anyone?
« on: October 29, 2018, 08:29:15 PM »
Sorry, forgot to mention similar setup with ride....

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DrumIt 5 Hardware / Re: real feel cymbals anyone?
« on: October 29, 2018, 08:28:25 PM »
I think a reasonable solution could be Jobeky’s real feel (that uses standard Roland triggering system) plus a Zourman box to match triggering 2box circuitry. I have this setup on a VH11 and work like charm..

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Sharing drum sounds - wav / aiff / rex / SD3 sound quality
« on: November 13, 2017, 11:09:16 PM »
Hi all,

I have started some testing on sD3 sounds conversion. At first glance, and compared with BFD, I need to say sound quality is far below than expected.

First thing is when comparing the sounds on SD3 ( no matter if through DAW or using the standalone VST SD3 application) with SDSE converted sounds. I see some noticeable deterioration, including significant noise in the samples. I use 16 bits conversion with mono output.

When going into the module, things are even worsening (I’m using same headphones as on PC, DrBeat brand, high quality and sensitivity) and even with some tweaking on EQ, difficulties to get proper quality. Sounds are muddy,noisy and even distorted in some case. Worst are cymbals, HH and specially snare.

I have flattening all mixer levels, removing bleeding and even simplifying mics routing to avoid side effects (for example, removing snare bottom); while some minor improvements, still far away when compared with BFD, original 2Box or even eNerd samples. No FX applied, no strange routing. Side by side no complex setups, to get as much quality samples as possible. Even compared with some old SD2 sounds, quality is below.

When hearing directly on the VST, quality is apparently good enough, but after conversion really disappointing.

Any similar experience? Do I’ m doing something wrong (bad routing, unprocessed samples)?

Thx in advance...

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Hi, tested, but unfortubately does not work. My resolution is 1920x 1024, so I do not think that's the issue. Tested with BFD and it works like a charm.

No need to hurry up..

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Hi Dennis, got a problem today testing SDSE and SD3. It seems something is wrong with SDSE, as imposible to render a single snare. The issue seems to be related with a "sizing" issue. SDSE startrs properly, but when it says "scalling" I see the mouse to go for "detach"..after that it is clear the mouse pointer is moving most probably with wrong scale; at the end I see the "Toontrack Web Site" (most probably becuse this erratic movement of the pointer end in a help key or similar.

SDSE informs it cannot retrive drums information, etc...I have reinstalled everything several times, with no success..

The surprising thing is that some few days ago it works perfectly.

Any comment?

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Yammies DXR15 (alternatively DBR15 or DSR15) will do with an excellent sound quality.

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Sharing drum sounds - wav / aiff / rex / DrumWerks Samples
« on: February 08, 2017, 11:03:44 PM »
Hi guys, just a simple question. Have anyone used the DrumWerks samples to build dsnd's? Any comment?

Take care

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Just if it helps, I'm using a very basic Berhinger mixer with 4 XLR + 2 stereo line inputs, with some effects board. I use to wire bass drum on 1 XLR, snare to another, cymbals another and HH to the last XLR, them top toms on 1 line, flor tom on the other line (both mono). Total 6 module outputs (needs some tweaking on outputs configuration).

From mixer to main desk adding some reverb mainly on snare and bass drum (depends on the site condition). Monitoring is done with the headphones output to which I add some line in from the main desk (also depends on site situation, but at least one send with vocals).

Can tell you people gets atonished about the drums sound quality. We use a pair of Yammies DXR15 for FOH, and simple QTXSound for drum monitoring (kind of cheap EON clone). Yammies have a very good bass response for moderate audiences (some restaurant shows with about 100 people asking to reduce sound pressure to avoid chest crash...). I prefer monitoring to headphones because of better back line feedback for the group, more natural response when added to the FOH.

In addition, I use to send some line to main monitors just for additional feedback to singer ang guitars.

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I've got a full Jobeky kit, and the hotspot issue is in, but not more than standard Roland mesh pads (that I owned before).

While I enjoyed the positional sensing on my old Roland TD12, there is no really a need for the center sensor to be mounted there.

I use to set strong mesh tension to improve, but lately I decide to add a second DIY trigger close to the edge, virtually eliminating the effect. I have kept the center one just in case of future PS from another module, but disconnecting the leads and connecting the edge sensor ones.

I think another trick could be to use 3 ply mesh, as the stronger the mesh, less bounce. You can order 3ply just on snare, as the effect is less noticeable on toms (at least to my ears..)

Hope this will help. Greetings from the sunny Spain..!

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Do not get crazy. Use  MIDI to USB converter. I can recommend Roland UM-1 as the best price/quality, but there are plenty of options from cheap "Chinese" brands up to high end stuff. Have a look on EBay or Amazon. You can start from less than 20 EUR.....

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General 2box Drumit 5 forum / Re: Using my 2Box kit live
« on: March 18, 2016, 07:45:28 PM »
No need to change 1+2!. You can use for monitoring. Simply make the proper addressing to 3,4,5,6 and that's it. I use tha same setup with 1+2 for monitoring HPhones or Monitor.

Greetings from Spain, good luck and enjoy!!

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General 2box Drumit 5 forum / Re: Kick miss triggering
« on: October 14, 2015, 09:37:13 PM »
Hi kullkroa, I'm spanish too. I can help you if needed (probably not at Jman master level but...). The symptoms you indicate sound like a hardened foam (some times it happens after some time, excessive heating, direct sunlight, etc...) or a misplaced or moved trigger..

I would suggest to get in touch with 2Box support (mail available on their website) to ask for a replacement trigger, but out of that have a visual inspection ans compare with the triggers on the other pads (metallic support hosting the trigger can be bond or moved; kick pad is to some extent the weak element and we use to abuse...!).

Are you using original mesh heads or Mylar? This can have some influence too.....

Regards

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DrumIt 5 Hardware / Re: 2boz hardware or Jobeky Drums
« on: September 08, 2015, 09:37:43 PM »
Hi friend, I'm the owner of a Jobeky+2box, former Roland user. These are are my thoughts on your question:

No doubt Roland HW and triggering functionalities are better than 2Box. This does not mean 2Box is bad but Roland is better. Also better in price level, as a full TD30 is 2 to 3 times 2Box price.

Sound wise, no doubt 2Box gets you better sound thanks to its open system and the ability to add real samples. Also true some elements as machine gun and hot spots has some better behavior, but wit some lacks as positional sensing. Also to mention the VEdit functionality in Roland modules is amazing in terms of flexibility and configuration possibilities. The bad thing with Roland is related with the basic sound quality. This is very long history about synth sounds vs real samples.

Most of the VST I know only gives you positional sensing abilities on the snare and eventually ride.

If you plan to use your drums just to trigger VST via MIDI, you don't need to go for sound quality, only good triggering. Roland wins.

If you want to go for live sounds out of the module, 2Box wins (but being honest, Roland can also go for a pretty decent level).

Considering above comments on VST, you will need positional sensing only on snare and ride. And "old" Roland module like TD12 can manage this without problems. No need to go for a luxury TD30.

My recommendation: just for triggering, use a TD12, price wise similar to 2Box. Live situations, for for 2Box with better HW (Jobeky, Diamond, even Roland...). But if you are rich, then go for a TD30...

I forget to mention I still own my old TD12 with an VH11, and from time to time I switch from 2Box to Roland.....;-)

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General 2box Drumit 5 forum / Re: Recording 2box at home
« on: March 23, 2015, 09:44:04 PM »
Have a look. This is done with the Lexicon, no processing, FX or any other than the output stereo from 2box


https://soundcloud.com/miguel-del-rey/gritare-test-1-pistas-bateria

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General 2box Drumit 5 forum / Re: Recording 2box at home
« on: March 22, 2015, 07:52:15 PM »
I've got the Lexicon Omega interface, that works fantastic for those purposes on a budget. Around 140 EUR here in Europe.

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