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Okay so you want to trigger Low volume cymbals using the drumit5 cymbal sounds.

You will need to dampen the cymbals and put a trigger on them. Ride/crash cymbals is one set of issues but hihats you're gonna have a bit of a nightmare.

Magnatrack triggers seem the best solution of for rides/crashes/china/splashes, you will have zone and choke issues though.

With a drumit5 you will have to choose a zone, so with crash it most likely "bow"

I am not sure if you can have choke, but perhaps someone with more knowledge can chime in with a firm answer.

The hihat... I am also not 100% but you will most likely need 2 things, a controller (Go edrum for example) and the Zumman box. And also, will have to only have one zone, Bow being the most likely.

Then you'll have the FUN of setting the triggering right for your playing!

Okay, you said "use supports and cables" Sounds like you want to trigger these cymbals. So having the look of real cymbal but using the cymbal sounds in the module.

Is that what you're asking?

If you’re talking about just putting them on the 2box hardware, there shouldn’t be any problem at all.

General 2box Drumit 5 forum / Re: What to do... advice needed
« on: April 27, 2019, 11:36:46 PM »
Also take into account. when you mono up rich stereo samples, it's always gonna lose something in fidelity.

DrumIt 5 Hardware / Re: Hi-hat pad problem
« on: April 20, 2019, 11:31:03 AM »
Looks like a simple fix. Straighten the prongs so that none of them are touching the bottom plate, and where the neoprene has worn away, you can just glue a filler piece in place, that'll work!

DrumIt 5 Hardware / Re: Alternative trigger pad for hihat
« on: April 10, 2019, 10:07:11 PM »
Jman provides a solution to this. As does the Zumman box (to utilise Roland Hihat trigger pads)

Any chance of a few photos detailing what you have done?

DrumIt 5 Hardware / Re: Does 2 box MkII support FSR Triggers?
« on: March 30, 2019, 12:59:38 AM »
Like I said, FSR pads (inhead/onhead or Alternate mode equivalent) will work with any of the drumit modules. And with a bit of tweaking you will get excellent results. But you will need to power them either from the inbox or the FTB box.

In reference to the Trapkat, that's done via midi and the trapkat powers its FSR playing services internally.

When a signal is generated from a mesh head (or any other trigger source) it's a wave form with peaks and troughs. Depending on the mesh head, dampening, tuned pitech etc, that wave form will differ from other mesh heads and their pitches and damping. So depending on trigger types, that wave form can cause a module to trigger a sounds more than once very quickly. So adjusting mask is telling the module to effectively only trigger the first peak of a wave form but no others in a set time. Other modules will show you the actual time and sometimes call it "retrigger cancel" but it's the same thing.

it would be easier to explain this with a diagram but I hope this helps.

DrumIt 5 Hardware / Re: Does 2 box MkII support FSR Triggers?
« on: March 25, 2019, 11:20:45 PM »
You will need to power the Inhead/onhead separately. I have used the onhead with a Drumit5 and it worked great. You have to tweak it differently from a mesh head. I used RUB1 setting and had to set the curve to a NEG setting. But being the nature of FSR treashold and cross talk were not an issue. I honestly don't understand why that tech isn't more widely used.

Other e-drum systems / Re: Positional Sensing.... Is it necessary?
« on: March 13, 2019, 07:33:28 AM »

If the cables are banging together, i.e. only the plastic casing is touching and it's causing it to trigger, sounds like you have the thresholds down way too low and perhaps they're not the best quality cables?

As for the trigit, sounds like the vibration from playing is causing the jack to come loose. Without a close look at it, can't be sure. But you could try maybe taping the jack plug to the casing of the trigit once it's inserted.

Other e-drum systems / Re: Positional Sensing.... Is it necessary?
« on: March 12, 2019, 09:52:14 PM »
Only Roland have positional sensing in the form you're talking about.

Mandala drums also do, but you have to use their rubber octagon pads and software to do it. There's another one too, but cannot think of the name. They're not cheap and also require their special trigger unit and software. Defo more of an EDM/Hybrid drum product though. Damn, wish I could remember what that one is called.

Other e-drum systems / Re: Prevent double kick hits?
« on: March 12, 2019, 09:46:04 PM »
There are somethings to consider when using mask to eliminate double trigger hits. If you're using a single pedal, mask will serve you well. Are you gonna use a 20+ inch kick drum with a mesh head? If so, yeah Mask will help you get a clean trigger set up. But if you're gonna use a double pedal and will be doing a lot of quick drags, ruffs and flams etc... You will be better off leaving mask low (or off) on a AC1 setting and muffling the inside of the kick with a pillow or some form of heavy foam.

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