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Still 4GB on board memory...
Based on the same technology as the DrumIt Five we have now added the Universal Trigger Interface
allowing the user to connect any kind of pad/trigger to the module*. The new DrumIt Three comply
with all popular major drum pad manufacturers’ pads, including cymbals and hi-hats.!!
http://2box.se/download/pdf/2Box-DrumIt-Three.pdf
very clever this universal trigger thing ... no more hastle with hihat or cymbals ...
I hope they will sell a ton of those modules to former ROLAND/YAMAHA users , and another ton to DIYers ...
This is great news!
I was not aware that this module has been announced two years ago. But the feature set fits!
The first mod will probably be to get rid of that 4GB card. :)
Hope they will add an updated drumitfive too. Otherwise they kill their own machine.
No info on hihat? Still hall-based or do they support Roland and others now?
The small print on the PDF on the website:
* Pads piezo and switch technology are supported. A compatibility list and recommendations for settings will be available on our Webpage soon.
This looks like a step in the right direction, loads more inputs. Actually makes having a drumit5 meaningless at this juncture. The 4gb card isn't an issue to me personally, but I often run out of memory because of loops and FX sounds.
3 zone snare and universal hihat compatibility sounds great too. I can use the Jobeky Hat I just acquired now!
You can see in the PDF there are 2 inputs for each cymbal, 2 inputs for hi-hat.
So I think by "Universal" it means that they've adopted Roland/Alesis type trigger inputs.
I just hope they've retained 2box pad/cymbal/hat backwards compatibility.
I'm interested to know what they mean by 3-zone snare though.
Quote from: Coda on April 03, 2017, 04:22:40 PM
You can see in the PDF there are 2 inputs for each cymbal, 2 inputs for hi-hat.
So I think by "Universal" it means that they've adopted Roland/Alesis type trigger inputs.
I just hope they've retained 2box pad/cymbal/hat backwards compatibility.
I'm interested to know what they mean by 3-zone snare though.
I am guessing it's for rimshot, rim-clicks and pad.
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Quote from: Coda on April 03, 2017, 04:22:40 PM
I'm interested to know what they mean by 3-zone snare though.
Maybe it s compatible with Yamaha PIEZO/SWITCH/SWITCH 3 zone snares ...like the TP100 or TP65S , they have 3/4 edge sensor for rimshot , and 1/4 for side-stick ... Second rim has a resistor .. same system used for their 3 zones cymbals ...
The 2 ins for HH , IMO its HH pad + HH control pedal ( roland , yamaha etc ) , for the cymbals , can be the BELL input for roland 3 zones rides ...
Quote from: welshsteve on April 03, 2017, 03:46:48 PM
This looks like a step in the right direction, loads more inputs. Actually makes having a drumit5 meaningless at this juncture.
It s the same number of inputs . 15 like the DRUMIT5 ... AUX ins are for other brands compatibility .
Quite sure you cant use them as 4 more inputs ...
Quote from: edtc on April 03, 2017, 05:16:29 PM
It s the same number of inputs . 15 like the DRUMIT5 ... AUX ins are for other brands compatibility .
Quite sure you cant use them as 4 more inputs ...
I agree, the reason the Drumit 3 did not release years ago is because they wanted to make it "Universal". So my best guess is that the additional inputs are not to increase the number of pads/cymbals but to add inputs for alternate types/brands. For example a Roland 3 zone ride would require 2 inputs so I would guess you would use both A and B of the Cymbal inputs for that. A Roland 2 zone crash would require only one of the Cymbal inputs. A Roland Hi Hat would be connected with the HH controller to one HH input, HH cymbal to the other. But we will have to wait for further info to verify all the compatible pads, cymbals, zones, etc. But, hey, it would be great if those extra inputs could support additional cymbals/pads increasing the number of pads on your kit and you could assign any sound you want.
Edit, I think I can now confirm that the cymbal A and B inputs are still only 3 cymbals that can be connected/used. The additional B input is for modules that need 2 inputs for a 3 zone cymbal. Still pretty cool if you like 3 zones for all of your cymbals.
In typical Politcal style I will refuse to name my source ..... LOL.
hey , mr LOPER ... any info about price and availability ..?
Is the headphone out usable as OUT 5+6 ?
The three is nice refresh!
There are some new sounds in the box - example - the Simon Phillips samples was announced a couple of years ago...but did never end up as downloads on the 2box site...but now it seems like they are here in the new box!
Best regards
Anders / www.zourman.com / hi-hat conversion modules for 2box
I hope the S.Philips samples appear, I'm a big fan.
" hey , mr LOPER ... any info about price and availability ..? "
Sorry, I am not involved anymore since 2012.
Quote from: Deve Loper on April 03, 2017, 09:20:32 PM
" hey , mr LOPER ... any info about price and availability ..? "
Sorry, I am not involved anymore since 2012.
Rick is involved from his own module project since..:drum3:
Quote from: chris k on April 03, 2017, 09:40:20 PM
Rick is involved from his own module project since.. :rock: :drum1: :drum3:
More and more interresting this thread ...
This future module should be nice , as Deve Loper had read a lot of moaning and ideas here ... :)
Quote from: edtc on April 03, 2017, 10:15:10 PM
More and more interresting this thread ...
This future module should be nice , as Deve Loper had read a lot of moaning and ideas here ... :)
more option, more edrummer happy, but no one know what it is...
Quote from: edtc on April 03, 2017, 05:08:25 PM
Maybe it s compatible with Yamaha PIEZO/SWITCH/SWITCH 3 zone snares ...like the TP100 or TP65S , they have 3/4 edge sensor for rimshot , and 1/4 for side-stick ... Second rim has a resistor .. same system used for their 3 zones cymbals ...
The 2 ins for HH , IMO its HH pad + HH control pedal ( roland , yamaha etc ) , for the cymbals , can be the BELL input for roland 3 zones rides ...
After reading the main feature they state: trigger inputs configured as kick, snare with rim, 4 toms with rim, 1 Hi-hat and 3 cymbals. The B look like for 3rd party reserved, I think they would state much more then 3 cymbal...for the B connection to 6..
Wait till tomorrow or later this week. The module is being unveiled at Musikmesse which opens I think Wednesday.
Quote from: Coda on April 04, 2017, 05:53:01 AM
Wait till tomorrow or later this week. The module is being unveiled at Musikmesse which opens I think Wednesday.
Jman confirmed, B are only for 3rd party usable, see his edited post in this thread.
Drum-tec:
Und Gerüchte besagen, dass der schwedische Hersteller 2Box sowohl ein DrumIt1 als auch ein DrumIt3 in der Entwicklung hat
So where is the drumit one?
Quote from: puttenvr on April 04, 2017, 07:41:09 AM
Drum-tec:
Und Gerüchte besagen, dass der schwedische Hersteller 2Box sowohl ein DrumIt1 als auch ein DrumIt3 in der Entwicklung hat
So where is the drumit one?
"in der Entwicklung" ;)
Quote from: mistery on April 04, 2017, 10:47:07 AM
"in der Entwicklung" ;)
I would not say these statement before fact from official company, these could make false expectation for later, anyone can leave a company at any time, don't take anything as granted.
anybody at the Musikmesse ....? :patbat2box: :patbat2box:
Actually I was going to drive past there today, but my trip got cancelled ::)
I wanted to drop in at drum-tec west too, but I heard they all went to Musikmesse :rock:
According to a user in a german forum who was there he was dissapointed of the "unfinished" and "terrible hihat" of the drumit 3 :(
Maybe he didn't spend time enough or ask about the new features. And then he mentiones drum-tec wasn't even there!
Where is that message?
I only see a guy who is raving about the old drumit 3 module two years ago who had medeli pads
The "Three" worked like charm when I tested it last year with 2box, Yamaha and Roland hihats.
Best regards
Anders / www.zourman.com / Great hi-hat conversions for 2box
Exactly
I can.t imagine they release a bad working module in these days
Quote from: puttenvr on April 05, 2017, 07:14:34 PM
Exactly
I can.t imagine they release a bad working module in these days
I hear that as it was 2 years ago when the phototype was shown, 2 years to iron out the kinks with the operation and marketing/production etc.
Quote from: welshsteve on April 05, 2017, 11:25:39 PM
I hear that as it was 2 years ago when the phototype was shown, 2 years to iron out the kinks with the operation and marketing/production etc.
2 years ago after Musikmesse they started over. The module shown 2 years ago didn't have dual HH inputs and extra inputs for Roland style 3 zone cymbals. They essentially scrapped the original Drumit Three and started over opting to build a module with "more" universal eDrum compatibility.
Quote from: puttenvr on April 05, 2017, 06:29:43 PM
Where is that message?
I only see a guy who is raving about the old drumit 3 module two years ago who had medeli pads
Musikmesse 2017 wer geht wann hin und wo? Außerdem: Berichte in Wort und Bild
"Quo vadis Musikmesse
Ich war heute auf der Messe und bin, gelinde gesagt, enttäuscht. Für das, was die Messe bietet ist der Preis, 30â,¬ Eintritt, 13â,¬ Parken, viel zu teuer! Ich bin geneigt hier von Abzocke zu sprechen.
Pearl fehlt, drum-tec fehlt und Roland steht angeblich irgendwo in Frankfurt mit einem Truck. Das 2Box drumit 3 ist nicht ausgegoren. Die HHat furchtbar. Alesis Strike, typisch Alesis gute Idee aber die Umsetzung mangelhaft. HHat furchtbar und auf der Snare nervt der Maschinengewehreffekt. Das einzige Modul, das nicht oder nur wenig entäuschte, war das AD5."
In short, he complains entry and parking too expensive, 2box drumit 3 sucked, hihat sucks, alesis sucks, atv ad5 not so much, maybe he just wasn't in the mood :-)
there's a couple of pics from drum-tec triyng out the drumit 3 with their diabolo pads and what looks like roland cymbals, but still not a word about pricing or availability yet... so I'm afraid is not ready to hit the market just yet... :-\
https://www.facebook.com/officialdrumtec/photos/pcb.1360267130685850/1360262647352965/?type=3&theater
That avatar kit looks amazing, I wonder if it supports PS and 127 steps opening on the Hihat... ;D
I used the translator:
"I was at the show today and am disappointed to say the least. For what the fair offers is the price, 30 â,¬ entrance, 13 â,¬ parking, way too expensive! I am inclined to speak here of rip-off.
Pearl missing, drum-tec is missing and Roland is allegedly somewhere in Frankfurt with a truck. The 2Box drumit 3 is not released, the HHat terrible. Alesis Strike, typical Alesis good idea but the implementation deficient, HHat terrible and on the snare nerves the machine gun effect. The only module that did not or only slightly deceived was the AD5 "
thanks for the translation, I was too lazy to do it...
Yeah, ok, that german forum is basically for drum teachers and acoustic drummers, the electro things dont get a lot of love or attention there, I've met a couple of their members and they still think the roland td-3 is the latest and greatest...
Quote from: edcito on April 06, 2017, 06:39:19 AM
thanks for the translation, I was too lazy to do it...
Yeah, ok, that german forum is basically for drum teachers and acoustic drummers, the electro things dont get a lot of love or attention there, I've met a couple of their members and they still think the roland td-3 is the latest and greatest...
they where talking on the playability then with the response, AD5 trigs very well, but the trigger setting do a roles as well on each module, depend how you play and you set it with x brand used, and I would not take 100% as accurate statement, module might not even finished, these kind of reports take it with a salt and grain..until its officially released, these event product are never finished in most case.
Quote from: chris k on April 06, 2017, 06:42:46 AM
.... and I would not take 100% as accurate statement, module might not even finished, these kind of reports take it with a salt and grain..until its officially released
Then please don't quote them
Well, we said hello and nothing happened.... sad.... :'(
Yeah,
I have been looking on youtube and Facebook for anything from Musikmesse 2017 and NOTHING! It was there, most of the new gear has shown up on the search including a not so good demo of Strike Pro (still with that bloody useless/pointless bass guitar/synth patch, but no one has taken a video of it (Drumit3) in action.
On a side note, one of the newest owners of Strike Pro has put a video up on youtube and the feedback isn't great so far. The snare is pretty good (although with that machine gun effect at max velocity) but he complains the hihat function isn't very good.
any idea of release date ? price ?
German distributor says
shipping this summer
price around 840 euro
Quote from: welshsteve on April 10, 2017, 09:08:52 AM
no one has taken a video of it (Drumit3) in action.
Perhaps the guys from Drum-Tec made a video with their pads
Watch their youtube channel in the next weeks
Some new pics of it in action on the 2box drums Facebook page!
Quote from: edtc on April 10, 2017, 09:16:23 AM
any idea of release date ? price ?
I just received a response from 2box:
Hi Fabio,
The DrumIt Three will be avaibale end of Summer.
I don't know the US price yet. The Euro price will be approx. 799,- â,¬
Best
2BOX Team
Finally a video with a short demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkQO_UL5J_U
The Roland VH-12 looks like it works great! Same for the cymbal trigger. I wished they demo'd the 3-zone snare though and shame about the audio clipping!
Quote from: welshsteve on April 10, 2017, 07:33:00 PM
The Roland VH-12 looks like it works great! Same for the cymbal trigger. I wished they demo'd the 3-zone snare though and shame about the audio clipping!
The ride bell it's either the sensitivity or something wrong, too much loud!
I didn't think so, but yeah I have no doubt that can be adjusted!
It is a Vh-13 on the video. (Not a vh-12)
If i remember it right...the sensivity on the Bell can be adjusted.
Best Regards
Anders / www.zouman.com / Great hi-hat conversions 2box
Ooops, my bad. The difference being the finish and the diameter, or is there more to it than that?
Really clever from 2boz to make their module unirversal as the module is great but their hardware not that goos IMHO
after 10 years spent working on the 2BOX module , Benght still dont know how many trigger input it has ... ;)
Hi! The Vh-13 has the same diameter as the vh-12. And as vh-11...
Owning all Roland hi-hats I would say that the vh-13 is more sensitive and have a better feeling. The impedance range is completely changed making it easier to handle. It is more inline with vh-11 and it's settings.
Watching the video with Bengt...I think he got unsure when a camera is apointed to his face and because he is probably mixing it up and is thinking of other future 2box products. :-)
Best regards
Anders / www.zourman.com / great hi-hat conversion modules for 2box
I used to work in Music Instrument stores for 10 years, and it frustrates me when I see a product like this sold IMHO so badly as this video. Uuurgh, it's like come on, show PASSION man!
For example "How many inputs, and what's the latency" The response should have been (and this is just my option)
"Well, it's got 10 inputs which will be pre configured for kick, snare, 4 toms, 3 cymbals. Snare to toms are dual zone, so you can split this two give you two single zone for say extra toms, because they don't have to be set like that. In fact, all of the inputs can be configured to be different style inputs. For example if you're using acoustic cymbals or have another module, they can all drum pads. But not all inputs can be configured to be ANY, there's so limits, but you can change from the pre-configuration. So it's very flexible. Furthermore with this module over the drumit5, To get superior sound quality of the module but keeping your existing pad set, say Yamaha, Roland etc, which used a different system of triggering than we do with our existing pads, we have made it so it can accommodate almost all other major brands (he did say this, but I didn't think he SOLD it personally) and not have to do it via midi and that manufactures module.
Latency is up there with hi performance VST and Computer sets ups, but without the need of a Laptop by the side of your kit live. A major advantage of this is kit switching times, loading up a new kit on Ez drummer for example takes a lot longer. Add the fact that this kit can play ANY sound, loops, song backing tracks, no find the sound, it'll play it, MULTI sample over 128 velocities if you should wish, makes this module incomparable to others and for less than euros 800. I think it melds the sound of even the more professional and top end modules in a very humble price bracket!"
That's what I would have said to that question. And I know no more about this module than anyone else, especially one of the owners! I am not being nasty though, Bengt is a lovely guy and has helped me a number of times with somethings in the past!
Quote from: welshsteve on April 11, 2017, 07:43:53 AM
"Well, it's got 10 inputs ..."
To be honest, I usually puke after hearing something like that. Can't stand the "salesman-talk", sorry.
Quote from: welshsteve on April 11, 2017, 07:43:53 AM
I used to work in Music Instrument stores for 10 years, and it frustrates me when I see a product like this sold IMHO so badly as this video. Uuurgh, it's like come on, show PASSION man!
For example "How many inputs, and what's the latency" The response should have been (and this is just my option)
"Well, it's got 10 inputs which will be pre configured for kick, snare, 4 toms, 3 cymbals. Snare to toms are dual zone, so you can split this two give you two single zone for say extra toms, because they don't have to be set like that. In fact, all of the inputs can be configured to be different style inputs. For example if you're using acoustic cymbals or have another module, they can all drum pads. But not all inputs can be configured to be ANY, there's so limits, but you can change from the pre-configuration. So it's very flexible. Furthermore with this module over the drumit5, To get superior sound quality of the module but keeping your existing pad set, say Yamaha, Roland etc, which used a different system of triggering than we do with our existing pads, we have made it so it can accommodate almost all other major brands (he did say this, but I didn't think he SOLD it personally) and not have to do it via midi and that manufactures module.
Latency is up there with hi performance VST and Computer sets ups, but without the need of a Laptop by the side of your kit live. A major advantage of this is kit switching times, loading up a new kit on Ez drummer for example takes a lot longer. Add the fact that this kit can play ANY sound, loops, song backing tracks, no find the sound, it'll play it, MULTI sample over 128 velocities if you should wish, makes this module incomparable to others and for less than euros 800. I think it melds the sound of even the more professional and top end modules in a very humble price bracket!"
That's what I would have said to that question. And I know no more about this module than anyone else, especially one of the owners! I am not being nasty though, Bengt is a lovely guy and has helped me a number of times with somethings in the past!
Well, I dare you to say all that in a foreign language, like german :-)
You were a good salesman then, now when I go to my local music shop I'm lucky if I can find someone who can get the part I want from the warehouse because the drums showrrom isin the 5th floor and the warehouse is in the basement so yeah, god forbid they take the lift to go down there for a 300 roland cymbal... and then you see all mesh kick pads ravaged by the felt beater and I always cry haha
Quote from: mistery on April 11, 2017, 08:23:55 AM
To be honest, I usually puke after hearing something like that. Can't stand the "salesman-talk", sorry.
Well you must hate apple and roland then haha
Puke, really? So you'd prefer someone selling and that's what it's about, talking like they don't know the answers and are guessing. To each their own, but I would like to think a clued up and passionate salesman is a better route for a products success.
Quote from: edcito on April 11, 2017, 08:28:20 AM
Well, I dare you to say all that in a foreign language, like german :-)
Yeah fair enough English isn't his first language, and I have to stress, I have had dealings with Bengt myself and he's an absolute gentleman! There was another video from 2box some years ago with an American rep and he was so blasé about the product (drumit 5) and gave wrong answers! This video is by no means as bad as that, it's not bad, but considering all the competition that's out there, I think a lot more could be done to drum up interest in Drumit3 and that goes down to someone who knows it inside out and is above all else passionate about it!
Just my opinion.
Hi, I think you are too hard judging Bengt. Would you all have performed better if you got a camera in your face from a sonicstate journalist just walking by your booth...?
Bengt is a living legend and have created fantastic e-drums for decades.
I think with a great price, open sound and trigger system the "Three" will blow the near priced modules to pieces...like TD-11, TD-15 and Alesis will definitely be at risk.
Best regards
Anders / www.zourman.com / fantastic hi-hat conversions for 2box
The DrumIt 3 looks like a very interesting module.
Apart from the reduced number of outputs, I'm wondering what my DrumIt 5 offers over and above the 3. I'm also wondering whether we will see a new 5 (or 6, or whatever) module.
I use the DrumIt 5 module and cymbals, with Jobeky drums (and Roland BT-1 bar triggers).
It might be worth an 'upgrade' to the DrumIt 3 (plus suitable cymbals/snare) if it gives me a great hi-hat and 3 zone snare and ride.
Cheers,
Andy
IMO , the vidéo was shot after lunch ... :)
Quote from: ANGR77 on April 11, 2017, 10:41:44 AM
Hi, I think you are too hard judging Bengt. Would you all have performed better if you got a camera in your face from a sonicstate journalist just walking by your booth...?
Bengt is a living legend and have created fantastic e-drums for decades.
Yeah, you're right I am and I don't mean to sound too critical as I agree with you on Bengt, as I stated, he's been ace with my dealing with him!
I am talking more from "If I was there as a rep" perspective. I know that a little arrogant to say, but I want to see 2box do so well in this very tough market but I think they deserve to.
Quote from: edcito on April 11, 2017, 08:30:05 AM
Well you must hate apple and roland then haha
:)) My man. I certainly am not a fan, to say the least.
Still using Roland products, nonetheless, but lately have been moving away by adding other-brand triggers. Besides, of all the Roland stuff that I've got, only one cy-5 was bought brand new as the first expansion.
Quote from: welshsteve on April 11, 2017, 09:14:01 AM
Puke, really? So you'd prefer someone selling and that's what it's about, talking like they don't know the answers and are guessing.
All I'm saying is that any type of salesman-talk usually gets me off rather than the other way around. For one, I prefer the answers to be concise and contain only the useful information about exactly what was asked. Don't need to hear a whole speech if an answer can be provided in one or two sentences.
Other than that, I prefer reading the technical specs, 3rd-party reviews, and testing the product on my own. There's probably nothing Bengt could have said in that answer that would make me buy this module.
What works for me is the PDF sheet that is published on 2Box site, the sound that will hopefully be available in video or audio reviews, opinions from people who get to play the module, and trying it out in the store myself, just like I did with 5.
What made up my mind in case of 5 was incompatibility with Roland 3-zone rides (which I happen to have and am happy with), other-brand hi-hats (same here), and perhaps another detail or two.
I'm simply not buying products based on hype. That has the opposite effect on me as I feel I'm being treated as an idiot. However, that seems to work with many. :)
I hope the sample import of vst is better in this unit
Like I wrote before in this forum (and some people also reported on vdrums.com) converted vst samples sounded perfect on my pc but lack some focus/byte/definition in the drumit module.
Never found out what it is.
Always returned to the factory samples afterwards
Which are perfect 😊
Hello!
I must claim the opposit situation ... I am only playing with my SDSE converted samples from AD2 instead of the factory samples, which in my ears works better (for me)
The factory samples are more advanced in sampling...these sounds seems to have a sampling structure of a stereo track with all layers times 5. 2box have an internal special software tool to compile theses factory samples. In this tool you also see that the hi-hat sound strucure was enabled for 9 different triggers. This is also what you see on your 2box when dealing with the triggers like the hi-hat...bow is 4, edge is 8 and pedal/chick is 9...
Best regards
Anders / www.zourman.com / hi-hat conversion modules for 2box
From what i have tested , if you dont allow the sound to be pitched up , the degradation is less audible ...
I also hope the will improve this on future OS updates . Those should be applicable to Drumit5 as the engine seems to be the quite same on the 3 ...
Another interesting video showing as the Drumit Three works with different brands of pads and cymbals....
Very very interesting!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaU3XiTLPQY
That reminds me of when I ordered my first 2 box 5 module from guitar center . From the salespeople to all the managers, none of them knew that they were a 2 box dealer, that hoshono was the distributor, nothing except me. They were good kids, but the problem I blame on ownership and top management. When a product is being introduced and needs a big send off to let the world know what it is, there should be extensive marketing and trading to lock it off. I still think that Roland had some monopoly on guitar center that definitely halted a lot of what I just mentioned
Quote from: violaole on April 24, 2017, 12:39:08 PM
Another interesting video showing as the Drumit Three works with different brands of pads and cymbals....
Very very interesting!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaU3XiTLPQY
I didn't see anyone notice the biggest drawback when compared to drumitFive - no more orange display light ???
;)
Quote from: JRage on April 25, 2017, 08:07:01 AM
I didn't see anyone notice the biggest drawback when compared to drumitFive - no more orange display light ???
;)
yes , but il looks a bit bigger than the one on the DRUMITfive unit ...
Quote from: edtc on April 25, 2017, 01:42:35 PM
yes , but il looks a bit bigger than the one on the DRUMITfive unit ...
Is it really bigger? I'm not sure. Even then it's only bigger letters/symbols, I'm Ok with display size on DrumitFive module.
Also I've noticed the label "DC In" on top of the module. Apparently the power supply been changed from 18V transformer to AC/DC PSU.
I believe the module is longer. There are more inputs so they needed more real estate compared to the original PCB. Good eye on the DC in. Could be they have found a better power adapter with this one. The Drumit Five adapter is not a very common type.
Quote from: Jman on April 26, 2017, 07:03:48 PM
I believe the module is longer. There are more inputs so they needed more real estate compared to the original PCB. Good eye on the DC in. Could be they have found a better power adapter with this one. The Drumit Five adapter is not a very common type.
Yes, the module is longer, but I doubt that display is larger too, it looks the same size to me.
Out of interest I found an old video from 2015, where DrumitThree was first demoed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7g4hLLYhjA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7g4hLLYhjA)
That old one module is shorter with 10 inputs and still has a label "AC in" (see in video at about 1:03). So this change apparently was done sometime after 2015.
I think Bengt mentioned that they changed adaptor based on EU regulations...to AC/DC. The story about the old AC/AC adaptor was to cut costs...it was a big difference back in 2009 between the power adapters.
Best regards
Anders / www.zourman.com / hi-hat conversions for 2box
Anyone have any more news of release date of this? I plan to get rid of my TD15 module for it. So I expect (or hope) to be one of the first buyers, pending stocks of course!
I wouldn't hold my breath for a release before October/November this year, 2box mention "late summer" but knowing the experience with the 2box 5 release dates being pushed several times I don't think this will be possible...
And those if us who own or owned drummit 5's, thinking the drummit 6 was soon to arrive. How disillusioned we were. Many the 3 coming out first, and the TD 50, Strike and Pearl mimic, 2 box can steal the best technologies from the 3 and come out with a real show stopper! E drums tech running rapid now!!
I have a strange feeling that drumit 3 will be the last 2box module.. They are just to small to survive the mimic pro. When pearl introduce the multilayer editor it can be a tough opponent to 2box. Without some kind of revolution it will be very difficult to attract new customers. The ready-made libraries would be a hit in my opinion. The majority of people want to just play the drums. Dial the sound some more or even pay for finished presets made by professionals similar to vex kits for roland. It is all possible with mimic pro. 2box will always be for drum nerds :)
Hi!
I don't know much about the 2box future...but i still think the 2box DrumIt Five is a great product!
It seems to be a Mimic fever out there...of course a good system...but still very limited by the VST, round robins, hi-hat implementations and other stuff. After reading all the posts on the Vdrums forum about Mimic...I am still believe that the sound editor will take time before we see it launched on the market...if ever. There are a lot of other stuff which needs to be fixed first and I don't think Mr Slate would prioritize this development(he wants to sell sounds)...but maybe Pearl do. I could of course be wrong here.
Then you have the issue...a Mimic cost 3 times a DrumIt 3...so I still believe there is a great market for it!
This was my speculations!
Best Regards
Anders / www.zourman.com / Roland Hi-hat conversion modules for 2box.
I think the same, the mimic is a fantastic product for the guy that can spend £2200+ on the module alone, but out of all edrummers, I would put that market into the top 10% perhaps. For the guys (like me) that don't or will never have that kind of money, £700 approx for a drumit3 will be easy. The option for it could seriously do with being seen and heard out there in Marketing land. It would still have a good customer base.
hello 2boxers ...
Does anyone know if the Drumit 3 will be compatible with 3 zones YAMAHA CY cymbals ans XP silicon pads ...?
Those use one stereo cable for 3 zones , The feel of those pads is great and the rim separation is fantastic .
yeah I believe it will. The universal triggering feature is what will probably appeal to folks with Roland/yamaha pads.
Compatible for sure... but all 3 zones available ?
Quote from: ANGR77 on July 05, 2017, 04:54:46 PM
Hi!
It seems to be a Mimic fever out there...of course a good system...but still very limited by the VST, round robins, hi-hat implementations and other stuff. After reading all the posts on the Vdrums forum about Mimic...I am still believe that the sound editor will take time before we see it launched on the market...if ever. There are a lot of other stuff which needs to be fixed first and I don't think Mr Slate would prioritize this development(he wants to sell sounds)...but maybe Pearl do. I could of course be wrong here.
What do you means very limited by the vst?
There is no major bugs, only refinement need to be made for some, mostly are minor, around next week there is update, most things you are reading was old cable or cable not fits right with heavy duty jack, or 2 people used to use vdrum, hitting medium velocity and reaching 90-127 quickly with default Roland linear and sensitivities this what happens, they only adjusting the curve for their own style playability, this is because they got used to limited layers and hot spot all the time, their vdrum demo proof it.
The hi-hat playability is at worst like Roland, with lots of more velocity\round robin, superior sound. The sound editor is more close then you thinks, it was started 2 month ago on development, definitively before 2018, we are talking very few months, and even after build the instruments, all option remain for the sound, all individual editing for each instruments, except room channel. Future update will include sequencer, and request from users.
Hi!
This is a 2box forum, I love my 2box and I even producing some third part equipment for 2box...so don't lissen to me if you want to go another way. I don't own a Mimic and have never tested it. But It looks like a refreshing unit and it has given the market some bust.
But still...to hardcode a VST (even the sounds) into a hardware is very limited compared to what I have today in 2box.
After seen a reply regarding the "Mimic editor" on vdrums.com (from what I believe is the best part of the Mimic...Mr Boo), my feeling is the editor is not even on the drawing board. I think you need to double your estimated time when it will be launched. But again, my speculations...and what do I know.
Best regards
Anders / www.zourman.com
All fine speculations about what will be released and when
I don.t believe we will ever be able to import 3rd party/commercial available vst libraries since the companies just won.t allow us
They prefer to sell
So, just like with 2box we need software to convert those sounds ourselves and use them illegal
We have seen how many drummers do and use that
Not many
Quote from: ANGR77 on July 06, 2017, 05:53:35 AM
Hi!
But still...to hardcode a VST (even the sounds) into a hardware is very limited compared to what I have today in 2box.
After seen a reply regarding the "Mimic editor" on vdrums.com (from what I believe is the best part of the Mimic...Mr Boo), my feeling is the editor is not even on the drawing board. I think you need to double your estimated time when it will be launched. But again, my speculations...and what do I know.
Best regards
Anders / www.zourman.com
Still don't understand about hardcode a VST (even the sounds) into a hardware is very limited, if you are talking to imports a real vst with multilayers and sdse, I agree, it will be not 100% same as built in vst with all feature things etc.
Mr.b is the soft designer of ssd vst and trigger (which include mult editor). mimic is designed similar like their vst with all option but created and optimized for a module to run fast without crash\ interruption\drop out\bad latency etc. like with midi computer, with newer library inside, 24bits internal sound default, 40gb in raw< 20gb looseness) for 123 instruments, using 9 to 12 round robin for higher velocity and 6 round robin for the lowest, no real limitation here, unless the library would be 4gb with multichannel, this would be evident as downgrade.
The editor he stated himself 2 month ago, was started, and I asked slate team about it lately, direct from the team and developer.
Now they say that the mimic pro will be able to import your own wav files into it, that would crush the drumit 3 and the drumit 5 for all that matters...
Specially if it's released in Europe soon... which I doubt it....
I wouldn't say "crush" one is £2200 or so and the drumit3/5is still £700. While one definitely is a more advanced module, the other sits well within the price bracket of the average musician.
Quote from: edtc on April 03, 2017, 07:35:17 PM
hey , mr LOPER ... any info about price and availability ..?
Is the headphone out usable as OUT 5+6 ?
So does no-one know the answer to this? I'd like to know too. I big step backwards with less outputs.
The Drumit Five has dissapeared from thomann and drum-tec so I think the drumit3 will arrive in the next couple of days or next week :D
Not so fast unfortunate...
I corresponded with 2box regarding something that also was related to 3 functionality, and they mentioned the 3 will be available later this autumn...
Sounds like another 2-3 months
Few weeks ago asked Thomann also about any expectations of 3 availability, was told they do not have any realistic assessments on that..
Quote from: edcito on August 15, 2017, 05:45:17 PM
The Drumit Five has dissapeared from thomann and drum-tec so I think the drumit3 will arrive in the next couple of days or next week :D
Thomann? For which country has Drumit Five dissapeared?
In thomann.de there is still full offer for 2box (except for the single module):
https://www.thomann.de/intl/lv/2box_electronic_drums.html (https://www.thomann.de/intl/lv/2box_electronic_drums.html)
Still up!
https://www.thomann.de/nl/2box.html?ref=search_prv_11
Triggers? who cares about them triggers? only the 2 2box endorsers ;D
I’m talking about the module itself.....
And thomann is german, no matter if you are in Finland....
If you want a new module, email then and see if they can split. Or failing that, buy the bundle and sell off the triggers. I am sure you'll have no problem shifting them on eBay.
Asked them few weeks back about new module availability, the answer was negative, not available any more.
As about triggers (I mean pads), after trying out Roland pads with DrumIt 5 and realizing that hot spotting is really disturbing to my ears, going to pick new 2box pads for toms and stay with them for a time being...until in some future the opportunity will arise to convert to a real a2e kit...
Luckily 2box tom pads are still available from Thomann...
Quote from: welshsteve on August 19, 2017, 07:42:45 AM
If you want a new module, email then and see if they can split. Or failing that, buy the bundle and sell off the triggers. I am sure you'll have no problem shifting them on eBay.
No, I was just saying the drumit 5 module is gone, really, now gone from thomann. I wait for the little brother 3
Quote from: edcito on August 21, 2017, 12:14:29 PM
No, I was just saying the drumit 5 module is gone, really, now gone from thomann. I wait for the little brother 3
Confirmed ... it is no longer for sale. Bax still says it can be delivered but I do know they process 2box stock indication on a manual basis ... probably gone too
Looks like 2box drumit 3 is getting close to being released :)
https://www.facebook.com/2BoxDrums/ (https://www.facebook.com/2BoxDrums/)
Anybody know if the 2box Hihat will work with the Drumit 3? I would think it should be not sure if the technologies are compatible with the universal input it will have now.
Quote from: 96max5sp on August 25, 2017, 12:48:33 PM
Looks like 2box drumit 3 is getting close to being released :)
https://www.facebook.com/2BoxDrums/ (https://www.facebook.com/2BoxDrums/)
Anybody know if the 2box Hihat will work with the Drumit 3? I would think it should be not sure if the technologies are compatible with the universal input it will have now.
it works ...
Already up for preorder at jobeky drums, with a 50GBP deposit, around 700GBP and hopefully release end of September.
https://jobekydrums.co.uk/product/2box-drumit-3-drum-module-pre-order-deposit/
Anyone have an idea if the 32gig modification can be done on it? Major game changer for the best value/sound module on the planet.
Hi! I would expect the 32 mod to work also on the three. (Ok...I have not seen how it looks like inside if the SDSC card have been replaced by memory chips...but I really doubt that this has been changed)
I applied a nice "mod" on my + a couple of friends 2box devices...:
(https://powerhell.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/img_1039.jpg)
Full story: https://powerhell.wordpress.com/about/zourman/poor-mans-td-20/equip-2box-with-an-external-accessible-sd-card/
Anders / www.zourman.com / hi-hat conversion modules for 2box
Hey that's an interesting way of doing it, looks like would need some specialist tools and someone with the skill to do it, but the advantage is the ribbon isn't exposed? Nice work though!
Thanks!
Yes, I forced my dad to make a nice job. :-) But taking up a hole in this plate is not too hard. The plate is about 1 mm. You could just drill a bunch of holes between each other and do the rest with a small rasp.
We also shortened the sdsc ribbon cable to fit better in side box ... to ensure the speed of data transfer. I have no proof if this would be any issue.
Best regards
Anders / www.Zourman.com
2Box just announced on facebook that the drumit 3 is coming within the next couple of weeks!
Well, the 2 weeks have elapsed and still nothing, so get ready for the classic 2box reply "is not ready yet" "we don't know when, probably next year around late summer"
I think it will be out soon, just 2box has like zero marketing department and communication is poor. They have such a good edrum module, its a shame they can't get their act together. Its like they don't care and just do the bare minimum to stay afloat.
Quote from: 96max5sp on September 28, 2017, 07:34:15 PM
Its like they don't care and just do the bare minimum to stay afloat.
You can bet they care plenty. But they don’t have the resources of their larger competitors!
Quote from: digitalDrummer on September 29, 2017, 10:17:52 AM
You can bet they care plenty. But they don’t have the resources of their anger competitors!
Maybe "don't care" was the wrong choice of words but they have been around a while now, i think they should have some resources just for simple marketing. They have so much potential, if you don't dedicate the resources how do you expect to grow? I guess they are satisfied with their piece of the edrum market, i don't know. They were one of the first companies to the market with a module that can import multi-layered sounds and to my ears sounded better than anything the bigger companies had out at the time. Then they had the advantage of someone creating a program to easily import VST sounds into the module, fantastic! This was what? 8 years ago now? The market is just now finally catching up with the Pearl Mimic Pro and ATV AD5 and the Alesis Strike offering great sounding modules with real sampled drums. They had a chance back then to build their market share if they just invested the time/money and establish themselves before all these other companies came into the picture. It seems they didn't take advantage of this "head start" they had and now are going slightly backwards with the Drumit 3 since it has less outputs. To be honest though having the universal interface is great and i will probably still buy it. If they made this happen years ago it would have been great for them but it took them this long and they are barely advertising it, no videos really or any hype of any kind and its supposed to come out very soon.
It just seems to be they have been stagnant and sitting on this gold mine while just letting word of mouth do the marketing. If you don't invest in marketing you can have the best product in the world and still fail.
Just my .02, i still love the module though. I guess makes no difference to me as long as they don't go out of business :)
You still get amazed....the 2box is great solution even if 8 years have passed. Don't be so quick to judge the upcoming three as a step back. There could be other models coming up which closes the gap to the current five. (What do we know)
Yes, the competition is really hard but still, even the new stuff have challenges. One shot samples...no editor for multilayer sounds, problems with triggering and so on.
In this case I do believe my old 2box just delivers...
If we really want challenge anything...I am guessing a nice PC, sound card, Trigger to midi interface & SD3 is the way to go! [for the moment...]
Best regards
Anders / www.zourman.com
"They were one of the first companies to the market with a module that can import multi-layered sounds"
Yes indeed, but who are 'they' today?
Quote from: Deve Loper on September 29, 2017, 07:57:33 PM
"They were one of the first companies to the market with a module that can import multi-layered sounds"
Yes indeed, but who are 'they' today?
Are you asking who else can do this? Just the Alesis Strike module at the moment and i hear the mimic pro isn't far behind though.
I am guessing Deve asks who 2box are today. [Deve was 2box...long time ago]
Quote from: ANGR77 on September 29, 2017, 07:33:12 PM
You still get amazed....the 2box is great solution even if 8 years have passed. Don't be so quick to judge the upcoming three as a step back. There could be other models coming up which closes the gap to the current five. (What do we know)
Yes, the competition is really hard but still, even the new stuff have challenges. One shot samples...no editor for multilayer sounds, problems with triggering and so on.
In this case I do believe my old 2box just delivers...
If we really want challenge anything...I am guessing a nice PC, sound card, Trigger to midi interface & SD3 is the way to go! [for the moment...]
Best regards
Anders / www.zourman.com
This is true, its one step back in terms of outputs and from what i read on the forums this puts it off their shopping list when upgrading. If it works as advertised the universal trigger interface is a great improvement though but nothing else it seems has changed.
It is still a great module eight years later after being released. I mean the TD20X was Rolands flagship i think at the time and this was so much better sounding and can still compete today.
Its other things like why not give the module more internal memory? Why lessen the amount of outputs? Its nice they have 3 zone cymbal compatibility on all cymbal inputs but take 2 of those and make them outputs instead. I think people would have more interest in the additional outputs then having bells on their crashes.
I corresponded with 2box several times in some not very distant past, among other things asked few questions to try to asses the value of the upcoming 3....
Still USB1.1 instead of 2.0 at least...same memory...lesser amount of outputs indeed...
Hope I'm really wrong...but sounds like suicide. The only universal trigger compatibility will unlikely push the value of it high enough above 5...5 already is capable of almost universal trigger compatibility, in particular bearing in mind Zourman's and Jman's solutions to HH.
All the rest the 5 looks like still winner...(unless there is a well hidden surprise in it we all are not aware of...)
If they continue with both products....3 may die in terms of market quickly killed by the old trusty 5...if they cease 5 hoping for 3 ...people may start looking the features of 5 elsewhere...
I decided to wait drumit three and buy it. I will using it on my acoustic kit, with 2box triggers and e-cymbals.
Now I'm confused, becouse you talking about step back with model three. Should I buy model five or wait new three?
Can you tell me pros and cons in few words? Is three better or not?
Thank you all.
I'd say it's neither as an absoute answer.
But the ability to use Roland and other styles of triggers give it a slight edge as far as I'm concerned. The fact it used DC voltage instead of AC is also a hardly noticed advantage. As a drumit5 user and over the years having 3 power supplies break, trying to find an AC-AC adaptor isn't easy as most electronic stores will not stock something compatible. However, I always found one on eBay which worked. But once in a soundcheck where one failed, I was scared for a while!!!
The two less inputs were never a concern to me as I always have been fine with using 2 only.
So if you find a drumit5 going second hand for a decent price, I'd get it. It will save you a few hundred bucks. If you want a new unit with a gurantee etc, then hold out until it ships.
That's my best advice.
The excuse is always the same, 2box is a small company, they cannot compete with roland and Co. ok then don't announce products if you cannot deliver, if they can make only one module a month they can keep it for themselves and their friends. I'm going back to Roland, I won't wait one more day.
Even the website of my "small company" is more updated than the 2box website, still showing the Musikmesse news from 2012 as the latest......
Quote from: welshsteve on October 03, 2017, 12:18:28 PM
I'd say it's neither as an absoute answer.
But the ability to use Roland and other styles of triggers give it a slight edge as far as I'm concerned. The fact it used DC voltage instead of AC is also a hardly noticed advantage. As a drumit5 user and over the years having 3 power supplies break, trying to find an AC-AC adaptor isn't easy as most electronic stores will not stock something compatible. However, I always found one on eBay which worked. But once in a soundcheck where one failed, I was scared for a while!!!
The two less inputs were never a concern to me as I always have been fine with using 2 only.
So if you find a drumit5 going second hand for a decent price, I'd get it. It will save you a few hundred bucks. If you want a new unit with a gurantee etc, then hold out until it ships.
That's my best advice.
Thanks for your answer.
I don't want buy second hand, I want new one so three will be my choice. I will wait few more weeks and if still no available, giving up on 2box.
Quote from: edcito on October 04, 2017, 01:59:57 PM
The excuse is always the same, 2box is a small company, they cannot compete with roland and Co. ok then don't announce products if you cannot deliver, if they can make only one module a month they can keep it for themselves and their friends. I'm going back to Roland, I won't wait one more day.
Even the website of my "small company" is more updated than the 2box website, still showing the Musikmesse news from 2012 as the latest......
That's true. Some marketing and news will be more than welcome...
c/p from another forum, I don't know if it's true:
"Just confirmed with someone very close to this, the drumit 3 is vaporware, not coming anytime soon, keep your drumit 5..."
Quote from: edcito on October 04, 2017, 01:59:57 PM
The excuse is always the same, 2box is a small company, they cannot compete with roland and Co. ok then don't announce products if you cannot deliver, if they can make only one module a month they can keep it for themselves and their friends. I'm going back to Roland, I won't wait one more day.
Even the website of my "small company" is more updated than the 2box website, still showing the Musikmesse news from 2012 as the latest......
That's what i am talking about, you don't need a roland marketing budget to keep people informed and excited about a product in today's world. They already have a great product, they just need to keep us informed and act like they are alive out there.
Drabotic....i use drumit5 with triggit triggers on acoustic kit and it works perfectly. Theres no need to wait for drumit3 as apart from a few apparantly new sounds its not going to work any differently than Drumit 5 when connected to triggers. Drumit5 latest operating system has setting specificallly for triggers. And. If and when the new sounds from drumit3 released you can just download and add to the drumit 5. And dont be dismisive of second hand. I bought mine second hand about 3 years ago.. No other drum module is going to give you the acoustic kit sounds that 2box will.
Quote from: wildhorse5678 on October 09, 2017, 07:34:55 AM
Drabotic....i use drumit5 with triggit triggers on acoustic kit and it works perfectly. Theres no need to wait for drumit3 as apart from a few apparantly new sounds its not going to work any differently than Drumit 5 when connected to triggers. Drumit5 latest operating system has setting specificallly for triggers. And. If and when the new sounds from drumit3 released you can just download and add to the drumit 5. And dont be dismisive of second hand. I bought mine second hand about 3 years ago.. No other drum module is going to give you the acoustic kit sounds that 2box will.
Thank you for your answer.
I live in Country where 2box don't have distributor so I can buy it only through the web shop, and can't try it or even see it before. That's why I want to buy new one.
Yes I'm thinking to buy drumit5 if drumit3 won't be available in next 2-3 weeks.
Are you using e-cymbals? If yes, which one?
Quote from: drabotic on October 09, 2017, 07:55:12 AM
Thank you for your answer.
I live in Country where 2box don't have distributor so I can buy it only through the web shop, and can't try it or even see it before. That's why I want to buy new one.
Yes I'm thinking to buy drumit5 if drumit3 won't be available in next 2-3 weeks.
Are you using e-cymbals? If yes, which one?
I am using the 2box cymbal pads, but others work as well. I'd give Jane in Jobeky a call about this, they do some great cymbals and will mod them especially for the 2box kit.
Drabotic.. I use 2 box cymbals with my 2box ekit , but when i use tiggett triggers with acoustic kit i use my Paiste 2000 cymbals. The size of venues im playing doesnt need cymbals to be miced up..they cut though. I use a Roland drum monitor for drums and also feed signal into PA and our sound guy then boosts signal through PA if guitarists get too loud and drowns out Roland monitor. Note I also hsve an Alesis 400 drum amp but disapointed with it because it has internal limiter to protect speakers and cuts out which happened in middle of songs in live gigs..not very useful in a Rock Band !!! I note the comment ref Jobkey and although ive not used them myself i saw them recently at UK drum show and thry looked impressive
I really don't get what this works with any other pad thing is all about , I've only just turned on to 2box after playing Roland kits since 2005, I gig with an A to E conversion and TD-12 , the 2 box works fine with my Roland cymbals ( of course not hi hat) but I'm ok with the stock hats, I've created a second SD card with the trigger settings for my A to E kit which works fine with the 2 box with centre mounted triggers so to use any other pads would be a step back IMO, anyone who owns anything less than a Roland kit isn't going to spend £800 or £2000 for mimic to use any other cheap pad with IMO , so all you need is what you've got , I've left out Yamaha cuz I hate those pads lol, Plus with the five you have more OUTS which is a plus for anyone gigging with Electronics , I've never really got on with any other head other than mesh anyway .👍 Just my 5 cents worth , drumit 5 is already a good and usable module I think a new software and kit upgrade would have been better , all I'm after now is the zourman hi hat box for my VH 11 😀
I have it on good authority a new version of the OS is being made as we speak, if it's not been written already!
Quote from: Itsme on October 13, 2017, 08:37:39 AM
I really don't get what this works with any other pad thing is all about , I've only just turned on to 2box after playing Roland kits since 2005, I gig with an A to E conversion and TD-12 , the 2 box works fine with my Roland cymbals ( of course not hi hat) but I'm ok with the stock hats, I've created a second SD card with the trigger settings for my A to E kit which works fine with the 2 box with centre mounted triggers so to use any other pads would be a step back IMO, anyone who owns anything less than a Roland kit isn't going to spend £800 or £2000 for mimic to use any other cheap pad with IMO , so all you need is what you've got , I've left out Yamaha cuz I hate those pads lol, Plus with the five you have more OUTS which is a plus for anyone gigging with Electronics , I've never really got on with any other head other than mesh anyway .👍 Just my 5 cents worth , drumit 5 is already a good and usable module I think a new software and kit upgrade would have been better , all I'm after now is the zourman hi hat box for my VH 11 😀
You don't get 3 zone compatibily with the ride and the hihat like you said isn't universal unless you get the zourman box or jman box. You also get 3 zone compatibily on all cymbal inputs if you want. The drumit 5 is still great though and i don't think any modules from back then can hold up against the competition today like that module can.
The other thing to consider is since they are going to stop making hardware the 2box cymbals and hihat once broken that's it, you won't be able to get replacements. At least with the drumit three you have the universal trigger interface so it's future proof if the hardware breaks.
So anybody hear any news?
I am assuming no otherwise someone would have posted but we are into November now and soon the weather outside will be frightful :)
According to this Swedish store they got updates from 2box saying it's coming in mid-December
https://www.trumslagaren.se/product/2box-drumit-three
Would be a nice christmas gift if true. Oh and the price has gone up to 926EUR, so I assume it's maybe financial factors the cause of the delay...
Quote from: edcito on November 02, 2017, 05:18:08 PM
According to this Swedish store they got updates from 2box saying it's coming in mid-December
https://www.trumslagaren.se/product/2box-drumit-three
Would be a nice christmas gift if true. Oh and the price has gone up to 926EUR, so I assume it's maybe financial factors the cause of the delay...
At that price it doesn't really cut it IMO. Two things originally seemed to be the focus, the module being more compatible with "other" brand pads/cymbals, and a slightly cheaper price since it will be slightly stripped down compared to the Drumit Five. I can buy the Drumit Five still new for $999 USD, cheaper than that Drumit Three price, and a used Drumit Five for even cheaper. Not that I need one. I have 2 already ..... But just sayin .....
Quote from: edcito on November 02, 2017, 05:18:08 PM
According to this Swedish store they got updates from 2box saying it's coming in mid-December
https://www.trumslagaren.se/product/2box-drumit-three
Would be a nice christmas gift if true. Oh and the price has gone up to 926EUR, so I assume it's maybe financial factors the cause of the delay...
Great, now its pushed to December and more expensive. What is 2box doing? They are really shooting themselves in the foot. Oh well, i guess i shouldn't be in a rush to spend more money anyway. It, would be a nice Christmas gift but not going to hold my breath. I should either be satisfied with the 5 and get Superior Drummer 3 or move on to the Pearl Mimic Pro which obviously is a bigger company with way more support for years to come. Maybe I will see what kind of Black Friday deals come around. Even if it does finally come out i would be worried about the stability of the company and what the future holds from what i have seen thus far.
Quote from: Jman on November 02, 2017, 05:36:40 PM
At that price it doesn't really cut it IMO. Two things originally seemed to be the focus, the module being more compatible with "other" brand pads/cymbals, and a slightly cheaper price since it will be slightly stripped down compared to the Drumit Five. I can buy the Drumit Five still new for $999 USD, cheaper than that Drumit Three price, and a used Drumit Five for even cheaper. Not that I need one. I have 2 already ..... But just sayin .....
I think its still an ok price, but yeah, definitely not doing itself any favors. If you buy the module and want to load sounds like most 2box owners do you can almost get a Mimic for the price (i've seen discounts as low as $1649) you would have to spend on software plus the Drumit 3 module if you don't already have it and in the end you wouldn't have as many outputs, inputs, etc.
Regardless of how small the 2Box company might be I definitely don't see the Drumit Five or the Drumit Three (when it comes out) becoming obsolete any time soon. Since it does have the open architecture and can handle a huge amount of velocity layers for me it is just as good/useful as when it was released. I have a Pearl Mimic module and do enjoy it very much, but the 2Box as far as sounds is not inferior at all, that from playing side by side. In some cases I still prefer some of the instruments on the 2Box, especially some of the ones I have built myself ..... like cymbals that are just incredible .... and my gongs of course ..... then there are the Octobans I have loaded ..... love those. I believe they will come out with additional expansion packs for the Mimic and hopefully a good multi-velocity editor for adding your own samples. But it is important to be aware at present the extent of the Percussion section of the Mimic is ONE COWBELL. And it is not "Open Architecture" so it is not possible to build and import your own Multi Velocity samples ...... not yet .... have to wait and see.
I'm picking up a Pearl E Pro kit and hope to upgrade to the Drumit 3 module or the Pearl Mimic using the Pearl Tru Trac heads.
It seems the Drumit 3 should price around 1K less than the Mimic.
Any thoughts?
If you are willing to spend the extra 1k, then do it, it's a far superior module. But, do you require a far superior module? That's the big question. As great it is, with an amazing touch screen interface, state of the art triggering and the full VST experience in a module, you might fine yourself wanting more in terms of sounds, which as it's gonna stand for a while to come, limited (if that's the best way to describe it) to Steven Slate 5.
So if you're more about wanting and open sound system, unlimited in what you can trigger and would prefer to keep the 1k for a great set of drums to play it with... then it's a Drumit 3/5.
That's my take on it.
So the anticipated releases date last i heard was mid December. Still no word, anybody think this is going to happen or hear anything different?
Jobeky started taking pre-orders months ago, has to be pretty frustrating for them. It would be nice if they at least communicated offically to their future customers instead of posting irrelevant content on Facebook. Just addresses the question everybody has been asking, wtf is going on with the Drumit 3?!?! Be upfront instead of letting people speculate, if you just be honest and straight forward people will understand.
When I bought my first 2 box module, I waited an unbelievable 9 months. Like having a baby only with trigger cables, lol. The lack of communication to the dealer from Hoshino was really the culprit, but honestly the dealer wasnt any better. Towards the end when I showed my frustration, not like a lunatic, but lets just say as a concerned citizen, the dealer would roll their eyes when I walked in , and put me on hold when I called. So, I am not shocked. I do remember the pain, It is also sad to see that the customer service still isnt there! I was looking at the 3 , but having already owned and.finally sold, 2 drummit 5 modules, I couldnt see the big draw for the 3, so I just bought an open box Drummit 5 for a great price. I have the hi hat conversion already, some drum triggers and the cymbal triggers . So what would I be waiting for, a couple of less inputs? The mimic is the ultimate goal but for what I paid for the 2box, I have a lot of extra money for other things in my life like Christmas, lol. P.S. I would really like to see Yamaha or somebody else buy 2 Box and develop it to be one of the baddest Edrum manufacturers out there. I am sure they could get the pads and hi hat right and would love to see a drummit 6 give The Mimic a run for its money. They would really have to don their big boy pants for that challenge.
Saw this just posted on the 2box facebook page, had to use the translate but this is what they said in reply to someone:
"Manuel Scheurer we're sorry that we had to postpone the appointment again... last minute a few things were changed and new features added.
Production is running, and it won't be long. I promise!"
We shall see....
From 2box Germany facebook:
„Zum Wochenende eine gute Nachricht für alle, die auf das DrumIt Three warten.
Die Produktion läuft und wir werden im Januar die ersten Module an die Händler ausliefern.
Es tut uns leid, dass wir die Markteinführung so oft verschoben haben. Da wir „Last Minute“ noch ein paar Features eingebaut haben, konnten wir die angekündigten Termine leider nicht einhalten. Nun ist aber Schluss mit Warten!
Danke an Euch alle für Eure Geduld.
2BOX Team Deutschland“
Someone else translate, I’m too lazy
Talet a look at https://www.facebook.com/2BoxDrums/posts/2024280484473645
Posted today...:-)
yes :)
I messaged 2box germany and got price info.. 799â,¬. Sounds great to me.
Matthi
So, ladies and gents, ready for the dreaded "we need more time, apologies but we promise it will be available late summer"? ;D
180111: 2Box meddelar att slutmontering pågår och de beräknar att modulerna skickas ut under kommande vecka. Därefter tar det ca 3-4 dagar innan de når oss.
Just to translate:
2Box announces that final assembly is in progress and they expect the modules to be shipped in the coming week. Then it takes about 3-4 days before they reach us.
2Box meddelar att leverans av emballage blivit försenat vilket påverkar slutfasen i produktionen/paketeringen. Utleveranserna blir fördröjda några dagar extra.
https://www.trumslagaren.se/product/2box-drumit-three
Ytterligare några dagars försening aviserad. I slutet av kommande vecka kan utskick påbörjas
January is coming to an end and still no sight of the drumit 3, 2box just ran out of excuses...
Are 2Box attending NAMM 2018? That would seem like a good event for a proper product release/launch - with live demos, etc.
180205: Uppehåll för NAMM-mässan men 2Box rapporterar att slutmontering pågår och att våra moduler beräknas skickas ut på fredag eller måndag.
Posted today on Facebook:
The production is running and the first modules are ready. We are just waiting for the packaging. Unfortunately, the manufacturer has made a mistake. That is why we are delayed. So it will not take long before the first modules arrive at the dealers. Please be patient ...
Yeahhh!!!!
Someone impatient could do a side by side comparison of the drumit 3 pic they just posted on facebook with the drumit 5? to see what's different circuit wise... it seems now the case is very easy to open, and the mounting holes look a lot like a standard module mounting plate, that's nice.
those who have pre-ordered can get it without the normal package!
jopeky drums !
https://jobekydrums.co.uk/product/2box-drumit-3-drum-module/
It’s not mentioned anywhere that they have the modules ready to ship, I’ve sent them a message 2 weeks ago, still waiting for a reply...
The 2box module is finally ready however the packaging box is not ready :( so 2Box have asked if you are happy to have it shipped without the outer box but securely bubble wrapped and in a plain box ? then we can get it shipped this week :) please let me know and I can process the order
For your reference, your order details are shown below.
Finally up for ordering at drum-tec:
https://www.drum-tec.com/detail/index/sArticle/3773
:patbat2box:
Randy Black playing his signature Kit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yarbXdtBn5E
Some new nice info about the three!
http://www.2box.se/World/pages/products/
There is a quick start guide posted also here!
Best regards
Anders / www.zourman.com
The wait is over, my drumit 3 arrived today, here a quick demo of the 3 new kits: Randy Black, Simon Philips and Mike Muller.
https://soundcloud.com/walkinded/drumit3
OS on the module is 1.32
Card Content here:
https://1drv.ms/f/s!Apbbfhss1Va_gaBtNvJWC6AAymMPog
Note there's no manual yet. Most sounds are the same as the drumit 5
thanx for the update ...
Quote from: edcito on March 05, 2018, 09:53:30 PM
Card Content here:
https://1drv.ms/f/s!Apbbfhss1Va_gaBtNvJWC6AAymMPog
Note there's no manual yet. Most sounds are the same as the drumit 5
Nice hats and cyms on the second kit. I guess that's the Simon kit?
Yes, thanks for the preview.
Quote from: edcito on March 05, 2018, 08:16:46 PM
The wait is over, my drumit 3 arrived today, here a quick demo of the 3 new kits: Randy Black, Simon Philips and Mike Muller.
https://soundcloud.com/walkinded/drumit3
OS on the module is 1.32
Sounds good.
Quote from: edcito on March 05, 2018, 09:53:30 PM
Card Content here:
https://1drv.ms/f/s!Apbbfhss1Va_gaBtNvJWC6AAymMPog
Note there's no manual yet. Most sounds are the same as the drumit 5
Thanks for sharing 8)
I suppose content is compatible with DrumitFive module, but OS is not?
OMG guys, I think 2box has done it! I just copied the avatar kit from SD2 onto the module and holy cow! It sounds the same as in the computer! Really! No more mushy sounds with headphones like the drumit 5! Thank you very much 2Box!
Here it is, sorry for the hurried playing but I'm so excited I just wanted to share it with you as fast as possible:
https://soundcloud.com/walkinded/avatar-drumit3
Quote from: edcito on March 06, 2018, 08:40:30 AM
I just copied the avatar kit from SD2 onto the module...
I don't understand. Are you using SDSE to convert SD2 sounds into .dsnd - .dkit or what are you meaning?
Quote from: edcito on March 05, 2018, 09:53:30 PM
Card Content here:
https://1drv.ms/f/s!Apbbfhss1Va_gaBtNvJWC6AAymMPog
Note there's no manual yet. Most sounds are the same as the drumit 5
I notice that 2box drum editor doesn't correctly display cymbals. I suppose there must be some incompatibility. Lustark Drumit Manager seems to solve it.
Hi,
impossible to see your pics :'(
Hello again,
By the way, i have a question before i purchase this module.
Can I use input A & B of a cymbal simultaneously ? Input A a dual zone crash and input B single zone splash ?
Can I use 2 different toms ( head trigger only) on one input ? That could free a tom input for other cymbals ..
Basically I would like to trigger 1 kick, 1 Snare, 1 HH, 4 toms, 1 ride (3 zones) 2 crashes ( 2 zones) 1 splash and 1 china both mono zone
Thanks
If you split the toms so 2 of them are single zone only, you'll be able to achieve what you're after (splash and china) on those inputs The rest will be taken care off with its normal function.
Quote from: Walse on March 06, 2018, 01:26:39 PM
I notice that 2box drum editor doesn't correctly display cymbals. I suppose there must be some incompatibility. Lustark Drumit Manager seems to solve it.
There will be a new 2Box Editor, and Lustar will release a new Drumit Mgr too.
I really want to hear kr see one if these 3's in person, before I comment. But sk far although the compatibility with with Roland and others is nice , from what I hear so far, I am really not impressed with the sounds but court is still out!
Quote from: Stoked2 on March 07, 2018, 03:21:01 AM
I really want to hear kr see one if these 3's in person, before I comment. But sk far although the compatibility with with Roland and others is nice , from what I hear so far, I am really not impressed with the sounds but court is still out!
I think about half the sounds are new. The others are already on the Drumit Five or out there for free download. The thing is though ...... there is about 12GB of sounds additional out there on the net freely downloadable for the Drumit Five, now the Three. Plus it is an open sound system meaning you can completely change the content of the module if you want .... so there really isn't any court that needs to convene over internal sounds ..... LOL.
Quote from: Jman on March 07, 2018, 03:34:59 AM
I think about half the sounds are new. The others are already on the Drumit Five or out there for free download. The thing is though ...... there is about 12GB of sounds additional out there on the net freely downloadable for the Drumit Five, now the Three. Plus it is an open sound system meaning you can completely change the content of the module if you want .... so there really isn't any court that needs to convene over internal sounds ..... LOL.
I provided the sd card content above, I would have expected someone did a comparison of the Instruments already...
Quote from: Walse on March 06, 2018, 01:08:15 PM
I don't understand. Are you using SDSE to convert SD2 sounds into .dsnd - .dkit or what are you meaning?
Ehm, you’re new here, right?
Quote from: edcito on March 07, 2018, 06:12:19 AM
I provided the sd card content above, I would have expected someone did a comparison of the Instruments already...
Yeah, I pulled out the instruments that I recognized as new, plus the kits that are using them, to load to the DI5. (which will be possible with the new DI5 config file that will be released and the same OS as the DI3).So, in my estimation it is about half the GB's that are brand new. Quite a few of the add on instruments that are already on the 2Box site for download though are in the stock sounds/kits of the DI3, like the Cube Beech stuff for example.
Quote from: JRage on March 06, 2018, 07:58:07 AM
Thanks for sharing 8)
I suppose content is compatible with DrumitFive module, but OS is not?
The OS will be compatible with the DI5 .... but a new Config file, dif. from the DI3 ..... will be released. And the kits will work on both modules then.
Quote from: edcito on March 07, 2018, 06:13:34 AM
Ehm, you’re new here, right?
Yes I'm new here, sorry. :-[
Quote from: Walse on March 07, 2018, 07:31:50 AM
Yes I'm new here, sorry. :-[
Yeah, it's OK to be new ..... LOL ... we've been converting drums/cymbals/percussion from basically every VST software around since 2011 ...... to load into and play in the Drumit Five, and now the Drumit Three. Check out Lustar's SDSE and other programs .... those are great programs ..... quick and easy, the way to go with that. http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php/topic,1544.msg27509.html#new
Quote from: Jman on March 07, 2018, 07:56:50 AM
Yeah, it's OK to be new ..... LOL ... we've been converting drums/cymbals/percussion from basically every VST software around since 2011 ...... to load into and play in the Drumit Five, and now the Drumit Three. Check out Lustar's SDSE and other programs .... those are great programs ..... quick and easy, the way to go with that. http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php/topic,1544.msg27509.html#new
OK! That's really why I asked to edcito if he were referring to converting vsti sounds to dsnd/dkit using SDSE.
For a moment I dreamed about the incredible possibility of importing toontrack kits directly into the new 2box module, without any transformation.
Quote from: Jman on March 07, 2018, 06:32:30 AM
Yeah, I pulled out the instruments that I recognized as new, plus the kits that are using them, to load to the DI5. (which will be possible with the new DI5 config file that will be released and the same OS as the DI3).So, in my estimation it is about half the GB's that are brand new. Quite a few of the add on instruments that are already on the 2Box site for download though are in the stock sounds/kits of the DI3, like the Cube Beech stuff for example.
Do you know if the new DI5 OS will allow the old module to use pads from other brands (Roland vh11, Yamaha 3 zone cymbals, i.e.) just as the new one does?
Quote from: Walse on March 07, 2018, 02:06:41 PM
Do you know if the new DI5 OS will allow the old module to use pads from other brands (Roland vh11, Yamaha 3 zone cymbals, i.e.) just as the new one does?
No, that is why there has to be different configuration files for the two modules. Obviously there were hardware changes on the DI3. And the DI3 doesn't have as many Outs and the Headphones cannot be assigned as separate Direct Outs. The DI5 obviously doesn't have dual inputs for the cymbals and HiHat .... so nothing has changed for the type of pads with the DI5. You will still need my Stealth 2Box HH stand conversion kit or Zourman's 4 2Box unit to use other brand Hi Hats with the DI5. But there are features like the Fixed HiHat setting now. You can set the HiHat as fixed now if you want and you have a choice of like 30 different open to closed transitions .... you really have the kind of choice where you can pick the perfect transition for a Fixed HiHat, better than any other brand module I have tried for that. Also you can assign a pad for Start Stop features .... a bunch of dif. variations of that including going Forward/Back for your module kits, which helps a little with the lack of a Foot-Switch input for that.
So, basically you will have the same new features as the DI3, with the exception of the added pad compatibility via the new inputs of the DI3.
Edit .... actually I will ask the question about using the 3 zone Yamaha pads/cymbals with the new OS on the Drumit Five ...... since those are only single output type pads/cymbals .... not sure, I obviously don't own any Yamaha stuff ..... I'm pretty sure you will only be able to use the 3 zone Yamaha pads/cymbals with the DI3 ...... but will find out.
Verified: Yamaha 3 zone will work for the DI3 only.
Quote from: Jman on March 07, 2018, 06:46:00 PM
No, that is why there has to be different configuration files for the two modules. Obviously there were hardware changes on the DI3. And the DI3 doesn't have as many Outs and the Headphones cannot be assigned as separate Direct Outs. The DI5 obviously doesn't have dual inputs for the cymbals and HiHat .... so nothing has changed for the type of pads with the DI5. You will still need my Stealth 2Box HH stand conversion kit or Zourman's 4 2Box unit to use other brand Hi Hats with the DI5. But there are features like the Fixed HiHat setting now. You can set the HiHat as fixed now if you want and you have a choice of like 30 different open to closed transitions .... you really have the kind of choice where you can pick the perfect transition for a Fixed HiHat, better than any other brand module I have tried for that. Also you can assign a pad for Start Stop features .... a bunch of dif. variations of that including going Forward/Back for your module kits, which helps a little with the lack of a Foot-Switch input for that.
So, basically you will have the same new features as the DI3, with the exception of the added pad compatibility via the new inputs of the DI3.
Edit .... actually I will ask the question about using the 3 zone Yamaha pads/cymbals with the new OS on the Drumit Five ...... since those are only single output type pads/cymbals .... not sure, I obviously don't own any Yamaha stuff ..... I'm pretty sure you will only be able to use the 3 zone Yamaha pads/cymbals with the DI3 ...... but will find out.
Verified: Yamaha 3 zone will work for the DI3 only.
Damn, thanks for verifying. That would have been a nice thank you to us Drumit 5 owners since they discontinued their cymbals, oh well...
Quote from: 96max5sp on March 07, 2018, 08:37:13 PM
Damn, thanks for verifying. That would have been a nice thank you to us Drumit 5 owners since they discontinued their cymbals, oh well...
Well, I will continue building my Stealth 2Box 3 zone cymbal conversion kits and Stealth 2Box HH stand conversion kits for the DI5. And Zourman will still continue building his boxes as well. So, even though the Original 2Box cymbals and HH may not be available there will still be cymbals available with those options.
Quote from: Jman on March 07, 2018, 06:46:00 PM
Edit .... actually I will ask the question about using the 3 zone Yamaha pads/cymbals with the new OS on the Drumit Five ...... since those are only single output type pads/cymbals .... not sure, I obviously don't own any Yamaha stuff ..... I'm pretty sure you will only be able to use the 3 zone Yamaha pads/cymbals with the DI3 ...... but will find out.
Verified: Yamaha 3 zone will work for the DI3 only.
What a pity! Then I will cancel my order. Amazon had a new drumit five module for sale, only for 380â,¬, but I need the hihat Roland compatibility and I want to keep the three zones of my Yamaha PCY-135 cymbals.
I'm going to wait for a Drumit three module.
Well, the whole point of the Drumit Three was to put out a 2Box module with expanded compatibility for other brand pads but a little trimmed down on outputs, at an affordable price. There has never even been a hint that the discontinued DI5 module would change in pad compatibility???? I was surprised a little that a new OS will be coming out for the DI5. That is unheard of with other companies, like Roland for example.
Quote from: Jman on March 07, 2018, 10:49:47 PM
Well, the whole point of the Drumit Three was to put out a 2Box module with expanded compatibility for other brand pads but a little trimmed down on outputs, at an affordable price. There has never even been a hint that the discontinued DI5 module would change in pad compatibility???? I was surprised a little that a new OS will be coming out for the DI5. That is unheard of with other companies, like Roland for example.
It's true they never said they would change compatibility, even if they did i know it would be another promised in 2 months but would take 2 years. :P
I admit i know nothing about modules and how simple it would have been to upgrade the drumit 5 software for compatibility but it seems like it would have been easy. I am aware of the alternatives like your conversions and zourman's but still would be nice to have more mainstream options available. With brands like Rolands they at least have more module options with greater compatibility even without being updated. The 2box Drumit 5 has had limited cymbal compatibility and now without their hardware being available, they left behind current owners who would like more outputs then there only current Drumit 3 offering. I just would have liked at least defaults for other brand cymbals for 2 zones and 3 zone for Yamaha even though i know that 2 zones are possible already with most cymbals if you fiddle with the settings.
All this being said the 2 less outputs is not a deal breaker for me, i will probably be "upgrading" to the Drumit 3 to get that built in compatibility.
Quote from: 96max5sp on March 08, 2018, 01:59:37 PM
It's true they never said they would change compatibility, even if they did i know it would be another promised in 2 months but would take 2 years. :P
I admit i know nothing about modules and how simple it would have been to upgrade the drumit 5 software for compatibility but it seems like it would have been easy. I am aware of the alternatives like your conversions and zourman's but still would be nice to have more mainstream options available. With brands like Rolands they at least have more module options with greater compatibility even without being updated. The 2box Drumit 5 has had limited cymbal compatibility and now without their hardware being available, they left behind current owners who would like more outputs then there only current Drumit 3 offering. I just would have liked at least defaults for other brand cymbals for 2 zones and 3 zone for Yamaha even though i know that 2 zones are possible already with most cymbals if you fiddle with the settings.
All this being said the 2 less outputs is not a deal breaker for me, i will probably be "upgrading" to the Drumit 3 to get that built in compatibility.
The thing is they really Couldn't just do a software update to make the DI5 compatible for other brand pads like the DI3. That is what took so long for the release of the DI3 ...... they had to start over. It isn't just software changes, it is hardware/component changes that had to be made. So, the point is moot. J
Warning before trying to open drumit3
Reported from users: The 2Box SD card mod is history on the drumit 3! The Display is glued to the top case, if you pull it you will damage it! The only option now is to drill a hole on the side at your own risk.Warranty void.
Quote from: 96max5sp on March 08, 2018, 01:59:37 PM
All this being said the 2 less outputs is not a deal breaker for me, i will probably be "upgrading" to the Drumit 3 to get that built in compatibility.
The Drumit 3 has 4 less outputs unfortunately, as you can't use the headphone outs as direct outs. This makes no sense to me ............................unless there is a more powerful module coming and 2box doesn't want the 3 eating into it's sales
Quote from: TheUntalentedOne on March 08, 2018, 07:23:27 PM
The Drumit 3 has 4 less outputs unfortunately, as you can't use the headphone outs as direct outs. This makes no sense to me ............................unless there is a more powerful module coming and 2box doesn't want the 3 eating into it's sales
you cant use phones output as direct outs , but you can use them for a stereo mix of cymbals + hihat ... then you can have a stereo mix of the toms on out 3+4 , kick on 1 and snare on 2 ...
Quote from: edtc on March 08, 2018, 09:20:17 PM
you cant use phones output as direct outs , but you can use them for a stereo mix of cymbals + hihat ... then you can have a stereo mix of the toms on out 3+4 , kick on 1 and snare on 2 ...
But phones output would also include the sound from the other pads, not only from cymbals. Isn't it?
Quote from: Thiof on March 06, 2018, 10:51:58 PM
Hello again,
By the way, i have a question before i purchase this module.
Can I use input A & B of a cymbal simultaneously ? Input A a dual zone crash and input B single zone splash ?
Can I use 2 different toms ( head trigger only) on one input ? That could free a tom input for other cymbals ..
Basically I would like to trigger 1 kick, 1 Snare, 1 HH, 4 toms, 1 ride (3 zones) 2 crashes ( 2 zones) 1 splash and 1 china both mono zone
Thanks
1. No you can’t use A & B inputs at the same time. (But you gave me an idea here...)
2. Yes, you can split a dual Tom input to two separate single zone Toms.
3. I am using a similar setup...but I use the Tom 4 input with a split cable to trigger a single zone China and a single zone cowbell trigger. (The rest of the 3 Toms are dual triggers)
Best regards
Anders / www.zourman.com
Quote from: Walse on March 09, 2018, 12:28:57 AM
But phones output would also include the sound from the other pads, not only from cymbals. Isn't it?
No it isn't... the mixer in the module allows you to remove instruments from the mix , without affecting the direct outs volume ... That s true with the D5 , should be the same with the D3 ... :)
Quote from: edtc on March 09, 2018, 07:24:36 AM
No it isn't... the mixer in the module allows you to remove instruments from the mix , without affecting the direct outs volume ... That s true with the D5 , should be the same with the D3 ... :)
Interesting! So from the practical point of view, We can consider that 2box Three module has 6 outputs.
Quote from: edtc on March 08, 2018, 09:20:17 PM
you cant use phones output as direct outs , but you can use them for a stereo mix of cymbals + hihat ... then you can have a stereo mix of the toms on out 3+4 , kick on 1 and snare on 2 ...
Edtc, that is perfect if true :rock: However, Jman says it can't be done and there's no work around and 2Box via email said you can't either.
I now understand that the headphones aren't direct outs but this is a work around if true . Can this be officially cleared up please ?
Edit: So is this correct? ................... Go into the mixer section and turn volume of kick, snare and toms OFF. Leave hats and cymbals as they are so that only the hats/cymbals come out of the headphone jack in stereo.
Then send Kick to Bus 1, Snare to Bus 2 and Toms to Bus 3-4. Cymbals and hat not sent to a Bus.
Quote from: TheUntalentedOne on March 09, 2018, 02:11:51 PM
Edtc, that is perfect if true :rock: However, Jman says it can't be done and there's no work around and 2Box via email said you can't either.
I now understand that the headphones aren't direct outs but this is a work around if true . Can this be officially cleared up please ?
Edit: So is this correct? ................... Go into the mixer section and turn volume of kick, snare and toms OFF. Leave hats and cymbals as they are so that only the hats/cymbals come out of the headphone jack in stereo.
Then send Kick to Bus 1, Snare to Bus 2 and Toms to Bus 3-4. Cymbals and hat not sent to a Bus.
It is a good idea..... Headphone outs can't be used as Direct Outs, but Ed's idea is a good one, which I hadn't thought of. He will be able to verify, but I don't think there will be a problem.
Quote from: ANGR77 on March 09, 2018, 04:43:17 AM
1. No you can’t use A & B inputs at the same time. (But you gave me an idea here...)
2. Yes, you can split a dual Tom input to two separate single zone Toms.
3. I am using a similar setup...but I use the Tom 4 input with a split cable to trigger a single zone China and a single zone cowbell trigger. (The rest of the 3 Toms are dual triggers)
Best regards
Anders / www.zourman.com
What idea ? I'm curious.
Is my setup can be achieve with a drum it 3 ? and how ? kick, Snare, HH, ride 3 zones, 4 toms, 2 crashes dual zone, 1 china and 1 splash both mono zone
thanks
Quote from: Thiof on March 09, 2018, 10:15:32 PM
What idea ? I'm curious.
Is my setup can be achieve with a drum it 3 ? and how ? kick, Snare, HH, ride 3 zones, 4 toms, 2 crashes dual zone, 1 china and 1 splash both mono zone
thanks
Your Ride and Crashes are already taken care of by the Cymbal inputs of the 2Box which can be assigned as 3 zone or 2 zone. The way to add the splash and China is to split a couple Tom inputs. All 4 or the tom inputs are splittable with a common splitter like this: https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/YPP117--hosa-ypp-117-6-inch
So with that instead of having the rim sound on a tom you will have only the head sound but it leaves the rim open to adding your single zone cymbals. The way I would split is to leave all 4 of your toms on the tom inputs 1-4. And use a splitter on 2 of the toms for the Splash and China. That way the toms all have the correct sound assigned to them ...... which means less redoing of the sounds ..... but on the 2 toms you split you will choose the correct splash or China sound from the instruments in the module ...... Many of us have been doing that on the Drumit Five for many years.
Quote from: Jman on March 09, 2018, 10:44:31 PM
Your Ride and Crashes are already taken care of by the Cymbal inputs of the 2Box which can be assigned as 3 zone or 2 zone. The way to add the splash and China is to split a couple Tom inputs. All 4 or the tom inputs are splittable with a common splitter like this: https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/YPP117--hosa-ypp-117-6-inch
So with that instead of having the rim sound on a tom you will have only the head sound but it leaves the rim open to adding your single zone cymbals. The way I would split is to leave all 4 of your toms on the tom inputs 1-4. And use a splitter on 2 of the toms for the Splash and China. That way the toms all have the correct sound assigned to them ...... which means less redoing of the sounds ..... but on the 2 toms you split you will choose the correct splash or China sound from the instruments in the module ...... Many of us have been doing that on the Drumit Five for many years.
Ok, thanks.
Let's assume that I wanna use 2 zones crashes can I use the input B of those to trigger another single zone instrument like a cow bell or so ?
Dennis
Quote from: Thiof on March 09, 2018, 10:49:16 PM
Ok, thanks.
Let's assume that I wanna use 2 zones crashes can I use the input B of those to trigger another single zone instrument like a cow bell or so ?
Dennis
NO .... the B input is ONLY for the Bell side of a Roland 3 zone style cymbal. That was already answered by Anders.
Quote from: Jman on March 09, 2018, 11:34:46 PM
NO .... the B input is ONLY for the Bell side of a Roland 3 zone style cymbal. That was already answered by Anders.
I know but Anders said that my question gave him an idea ... I was hoping in secret that there was a way to use the B input ... :)
Jman I am interested in some of your products, I'll send you an email later this week.
Quote from: Thiof on March 10, 2018, 07:05:50 PM
I know but Anders said that my question gave him an idea ... I was hoping in secret that there was a way to use the B input ... :)
Jman I am interested in some of your products, I'll send you an email later this week.
I understand. Sure, shoot me an email anytime.
Just for information for you or anyone that reads this explaining the Cymbal B input. One of the questions I asked Bengt at NAMM this year was directly associated with what you want to do with the Cymbal B input. On Roland modules it varies how the Bell input of the module can be assigned. On some of their modules like the TD-12, TD-20 and TD-30 you can set the Bow and the Bell inputs up as 2 zone cymbals if you want instead a a single Roland style 3 zone type cymbal and use both inputs independently as 2 Dual Zone Crash type cymbals. On modules like the TD-9, TD-11, TD-15, TD-25 and the new TD-50 the Bell input can NOT be assigned a dif. pad type. The Bell input only works as a Switch using the Bow piezo of the Bow jack for the strike position and Velocity and the triggering is like this: triggers Bow sounds when the Bow (Piezo) is triggered and Edge sounds from the Edge Switch when activated (choke when squeezed) and Bell sounds from the Bell Switch when activated.
All that just to say Bengt's answer was the 2Box Drumit Three's B inputs are setup like the latter modules I mentioned where it is only used as a single switch in conjunction with the A/Bow input of the module. And the B input cannot be changed to a different pad type. It will only act as a single switch in conjunction with the A input. The B input also gets it's sound from the Cymbal .dsnd that is used for the A input...... and to my knowledge you cannot assign a sound separate from the Cymbal A's sounds (+Bell,+Bow,+Edge) which are contained in it's 2Box .dsnd file.
Check my video about the drumit 3, interesting bits there :-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghFx16ULx2U
Quote from: edcito on March 13, 2018, 09:40:48 AM
Check my video about the drumit 3, interesting bits there :-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghFx16ULx2U
Cool Ed ..... so it looks like you can use a splitter on the headphone output 1+2. I noticed it did not have the 1+2! setting (with the exclamation) which is the Direct Out type setting. But as you can specify a sub-mix it should be possible to use it to send a stereo mix of just the cymbals or toms, etc ..... essentially giving you the 6 outputs that many are hoping for ..... look forward to your findings. J
Quote from: Jman on March 13, 2018, 05:20:35 PM
Cool Ed ..... so it looks like you can use a splitter on the headphone output 1+2. I noticed it did not have the 1+2! setting (with the exclamation) which is the Direct Out type setting. But as you can specify a sub-mix it should be possible to use it to send a stereo mix of just the cymbals or toms, etc ..... essentially giving you the 6 outputs that many are hoping for ..... look forward to your findings. J
Right, so the 1+2! is not there, as I never use it I didn't notice haha, but I want to confirm that the Superior Drummer and other VST's kits that I have exported so far sound the same through headphones than through the computer! I'm really happy with it and everybody should take that into account in favor of the drumit 3 if you mainly listen to it through headphones!
Quote from: edcito on March 13, 2018, 05:51:16 PM
Right, so the 1+2! is not there, as I never use it I didn't notice haha, but I want to confirm that the Superior Drummer and other VST's kits that I have exported so far sound the same through headphones than through the computer! I'm really happy with it and everybody should take that into account in favor of the drumit 3 if you mainly listen to it through headphones!
Yeah, that is great about the internal EQ/processing of the module isn't screwing up the headphone or 1/2 stereo out mix in the D3. I didn't even notice anything like that with the D5 and VST .dsnds ..... but after years of use I realized that I had sent 8 Direct Outs from the D5 from day one .... All dry that never passed through the on-board Mixer or affects ..... and that is very different in the D5 from the headphone or 1/2 stereo Mix.
My first attempt at being a youtube star showcasing the new 2box drumit 3 and the kit numero 1 "Randy Black"
https://youtu.be/xFnOu-Q9tjw
Hi everyone,
I finally got my DI3 module and it sounds amazing. That's my first step in the 2box world. It is shipped in an ugly cardboard box, witch is ok for me, but there is no instruction manual inside, just a german quick start guide :o !!! Where can I get a decent manual ??? I'm new here.
Thanks
Incredibly, at present, there is no a manual for Drumit 3.
You can get an english quick start guide here: http://2box.se/World/pages/products/
There are few differences between Drumit 3 and Drumit 5. You can get a Drumit 5 manual for the remaining characteristics not specified on quick start guide: http://2box.se/World/pages/downloads/
Quote from: Walse on March 18, 2018, 09:30:34 AM
Incredibly, at present, there is no a manual for Drumit 3.
You can get an english quick start guide here: http://2box.se/World/pages/products/
There are few differences between Drumit 3 and Drumit 5. You can get a Drumit 5 manual for the remaining characteristics not specified on quick start guide: http://2box.se/World/pages/downloads/
Since it's basically the same as the drumit 5, it wont be that much different except for a couple of pages explaining the new trigger type settings so yeah, they are not in a hurry.