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Title: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: Brian-D on June 23, 2016, 05:42:40 PM
Anyone seen this?
http://pearldrum.com/products/kits/electronic-drumsets/mimic-pro-module/

youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFLLkJKulQw&utm_source=streamsend&utm_medium=email&utm_content=26947003&utm_campaign=Steven%20Slate%20SUMMER%20NAMM%20New%20Product%20Preview

Looks pretty cool! Comes with  a 60Gb SSD and touch screen.
Title: New Drum Module From Pearl
Post by: chris k on June 23, 2016, 06:26:07 PM
Hi,

This look like very interesting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFLLkJKulQw
http://pearldrum.com/products/kits/electronic-drumsets/mimic-pro-module/
http://forum.cakewalk.com/Mimic-Pro-from-Steven-Slate-m3438396.aspx

24-Bit Steven Slate Drums 5
Multi Channel Samples With Separate Adjustment Of Close, Overhead, and Room Mics
IPS Touch Screen
60GB Solid State Drive
Top Level Burr Brown Converters
16 Inputs
16 Audio Outputs (8 On The Module / 8 From The DB-25 Connector)
Two Completely Separate Mixers For Headphone and Aux Outs - Drummer Gets A Personal Mix With Effects That Does Not Affect Outputs)
All Inputs Have Cymbal Choke Function
Supports Triple and Dual Zone Cymbals and Sual Zone Hi-Hat
Compatible With Most Pads On The Market
SD Card Slot and USB
Imports One Shot Samples From Wave and AIFF

Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: chris k on June 23, 2016, 07:01:19 PM
It came with Steven slate sound, basically with all the editing, you would replicate any sound out there, also they might update the contents with time, honestly having multiple VST  can be overwhelming, look like this units is doing everything.
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: Jman on June 23, 2016, 07:27:03 PM
It came with Steven slate sound, basically with all the editing, you would replicate any sound out there, also they might update the contents with time, honestly having multiple VST  can be overwhelming, look like this units is doing everything.
Actually, being locked to only Steven Slate drums is the only negative I see so far for me. With the 2Box open sound source system I have world percussion instruments, Roto-toms, Octabons, every brand and style of drum/cymbal imaginable through any VST out there right now. So being locked to only Slate is not an advantage IMO. But, yes, it is good to see electronic drum modules moving in the direction of real samples instead of the low quality synthesized Crap Roland has stuck with all these years. Hopefully the no. of velocity layers is ample on the new Pearl module, but with Slate involved it is possible he considered that and didn't make the same mistake NFUZD made, ATV made or Alesis/Pearl made in the past with the DM10/EPro ..... with so few velocity layers.
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: chris k on June 23, 2016, 07:38:27 PM
Actually, being locked to only Steven Slate drums is the only negative I see so far for me. I have world percussion instruments, Roto-toms, Octabons, every brand and style of drum/cymbal imaginable through any VST out there right now. So being locked to only Slate is not an advantage IMO. But, yes, it is good to see electronic drum modules moving in the direction of real samples instead of the low quality synthesized Crap Roland has stuck with all these years.

Its depend how you can see this, many Edrum want quality kits ready, not necessary tons of drum kit or importing stuff, they want to play with something already good, recording and gig ready, if you compare to Alesis, Roland, Yamaha, the module sound already better and universal trigger, without spending time of tweaking and importing sound, The touch screen is MAJOR feature, fast\reliable tweaking, if the module is reliable, will probably be on top of every one on the market of these I talked above. I read with the Pearl that you can only imports one shots sample wav\aiff, not a lots but at least you can imports sound can be useful for backing tracks, loop and fx sound.

2box module is widely open, but at the same time, the target are not the same as Roland\Yamaha\Alesis customer, all that have 2box are more passionate and tweaker,  complete different world and now you can see how ATV AD5 failed badly, but this was easy to anticipate..


In future we don't know about new module what would be like Roland\Yamaha etc, but at least we have some new progress which was time seriously, touch screen and SSD is today tech.
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: Jman on June 23, 2016, 08:25:01 PM
Its depend how you can see this, many Edrum want quality kits ready, not necessary tons of drum kit or importing stuff, they want to play with something already good, recording and gig ready, if you compare to Alesis, Roland, Yamaha, the module sound already better and universal trigger, without spending time of tweaking and importing sound, The touch screen is MAJOR feature, fast\reliable tweaking, if the module is reliable, will probably be on top of every one on the market of these I talked above. I read with the Pearl that you can only imports one shots sample wav\aiff, not a lots but at least you can imports sound can be useful for backing tracks, loop and fx sound.

2box module is widely open, but at the same time, the target are not the same as Roland\Yamaha\Alesis customer, all that have 2box are more passionate and tweaker,  complete different world and now you can see how ATV AD5 failed badly, but this was easy to anticipate..


In future we don't know about new module what would be like Roland\Yamaha etc, but at least we have some new progress which was time seriously, touch screen and SSD is today tech.
The thing is though: There are already 100 kits built with real sampled drums in the 2Box module. Plus another 6GB of drums and sounds freely available for download on the net. So, even though some of us take advantage of the Open sound system, all the talk about how you MUST spend all that time tweaking VST sounds and building kits for the 2Box module is just another untruth spread on the internet. You are already plug n play with a huge amount of good quality real samples, much higher quality than the modules that have been released previous and you are NOT stuck with what the original module is loaded with.

I am not judging the new Pearl Module, just pointing out the current info and Myths concerning 2Box.
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: edtc on June 23, 2016, 08:30:18 PM
exept the "beeng stucked to one software" thing , this module looks quite like my Drumit 6 wishlist ...

Lots of in/outs , an aux mixer for monitors or serious outboard effects , touchscreen , audio routing should be flexible with 16 outs ...
 :patbat2box:
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: Jman on June 23, 2016, 09:50:06 PM
Expected release date is 1st Quarter of 2017. So we'll be able to see if anything else new comes out in January 2017 Winter NAMM .... It is good to see more advancements in Edrums lately.
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: chris k on June 24, 2016, 06:43:07 AM
Now these are great News, no one would do this and taken request of expansion and new sound library, direct communication with them!

From Petter Warren Vdrum forum, Question answered direct from SSD Staff

1. Is there EQ and compression per drum? Is there a reverb as well?

" Better than per drum. It's per mic! You can adjust each mic in each drum separately. For instance, you can take out room from kick and leave it everywhere else."

2. Are there rim sounds on the toms?

"Yes"

3. Approx how many samples per drum articulation?

"Up to 20 velocities AND 6 hits per EACH velocity. So no machine gun. Sounds extremely real and natural."

4. Is the library in the module a reduced or full version of SSD5?
" Full version except SSD5 has two stereo room mics, while in Mimic they are mixed in one stereo room mic."

6. What type of expansions will there be?

"Any kind of expansion. Dedicated to music styles like pop, funk, jazz, indy as well as dedicated to drum series like Pearl Masterworks, etc."

7. Will you be able to import your own multisamples?

This won't happen in near future. We have to keep it organized. There will be expansion packs with multisamples and tons of velocities. We're open to people requests. We can record timbales, etc...
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: shimy1984 on June 24, 2016, 02:53:55 PM
This does look pretty exciting if for no other reason than to spark competition.

I'll probably pick one up when they become available.
Title: Mimic by Pearl, interesting!
Post by: JoeMcc on June 24, 2016, 05:55:21 PM
https://youtu.be/JSDJEMTiptw

Finally.  I just hope you dont have to buy True-Trac pads to get the module.
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: Jman on June 24, 2016, 05:56:36 PM
Speculation Warning!

I have a feeling this module is a different approach from 2Box or say Mark Drum. With those the sounds are recorded samples converted ... basically a form of multiple WAVs (in format for the particular module). And the module plays them. Whatever features the module has .... like with 2Box it has a Variable function that works like a VST Round Robbin or Random feature to eliminate machine gun. Plus whatever effects, EQ etc. that is in the module.

I think the Pearl Mimic is just a dedicated Module/Computer with Slate 5 loaded. From this posted question and reply:

Is the library in the module a reduced or full version of SSD5?
" Full version except SSD5 has two stereo room mics, while in Mimic they are mixed in one stereo room mic."


I am guessing it is a slightly tweaked version of SSD5. So basically you have a kind of dedicated computer with one VST loaded. So, Slate could make more expansions just like expansions for his VST, but for the module and they will sell Mimic expansions ..... just my thoughts anyway. The obvious advantage is that you can do the type of things that you do on your computer ..... on the fly ...... like change effects, room, ambiance, mics, bleed .... right at the module. The amount of Latency will be very important though. I imagine it will be higher than the typical drum sound module. And you will be locked into Slate SSD5 and limited to whatever is offered. When you start getting into World Percussion, and all the other instruments besides just normal Drums and Cymbals that could prove pretty limiting unless he does enough expansions. But I'm just guessing on all this right now ..... J
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: edtc on June 25, 2016, 01:19:46 AM
Speculation Warning!

 The amount of Latency will be very important though. I imagine it will be higher than the typical drum sound module. 

Hi Jerry ...

I guess you re right , it looks like a VST player doubled with a TMI ...

A bit like RECEPTOR ...
 
But about the latency , IMO it s possible that it could be lower than you think ...

Here s what they say about receptor :

" Because Receptor is a purpose-built device, Muse Research has been able to optimize it to do one thing — run great sounding VST synths and effects. Receptor doesn't check your email or double as a fax machine. It doesn't edit vacation photos or balance your checkbook. Receptor is a sound and effects module. And, as such, it is fully optimized to perform this function, with built-in 24-bit/96kHz fidelity and measured latency figures as low as 2ms from the time you touch a MIDI keyboard until you hear sound come out of Receptor. To put this in perspective, 2ms is about the amount of time it takes for sound to travel 2/3 of a meter (a little over 2 feet). In other words, there is as much audible latency between a pianist's left and right hands as there is in Receptor. "

So i guess it could be the same with the pearl module...


By the way , a second hand receptor is around 800/1500 euros ... add a cheap but fast trigger to midi interface , and you have the same possibilities plus the use of any drumVST present or future...  ( less compact for sure , ok ..:) ) plus dedicated Vst effects ...

And guess what ...  you can control the receptor via Ipad , so you ll have a bigger touchscreen , and you can have it close to you as the big receptor rack is somewhere else ....

Second hand entry level receptor + TMI + old IPAD ... still lower than 2000 euros ...:) and allready available .
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: chris k on June 25, 2016, 02:50:43 AM
Hi Jerry ...

I guess you re right , it looks like a VST player doubled with a TMI ...

A bit like RECEPTOR ...
 
But about the latency , IMO it s possible that it could be lower than you think ...

Here s what they say about receptor :

" Because Receptor is a purpose-built device, Muse Research has been able to optimize it to do one thing — run great sounding VST synths and effects. Receptor doesn't check your email or double as a fax machine. It doesn't edit vacation photos or balance your checkbook. Receptor is a sound and effects module. And, as such, it is fully optimized to perform this function, with built-in 24-bit/96kHz fidelity and measured latency figures as low as 2ms from the time you touch a MIDI keyboard until you hear sound come out of Receptor. To put this in perspective, 2ms is about the amount of time it takes for sound to travel 2/3 of a meter (a little over 2 feet). In other words, there is as much audible latency between a pianist's left and right hands as there is in Receptor. "

So i guess it could be the same with the pearl module...


By the way , a second hand receptor is around 800/1500 euros ... add a cheap but fast trigger to midi interface , and you have the same possibilities plus the use of any drumVST present or future...  ( less compact for sure , ok ..:) ) plus dedicated Vst effects ...

And guess what ...  you can control the receptor via Ipad , so you ll have a bigger touchscreen , and you can have it close to you as the big receptor rack is somewhere else ....

Second hand entry level receptor + TMI + old IPAD ... still lower than 2000 euros ...:) and allready available .


For a company it's not about saving I can have this lower right now and play in my house.

The point of the Pearl is the On\ Off module ready to run without the harsh of editing\ configuring and buying separate items, 90% feedback are totally positif I read on most web site, they are competing with Roland\Yamaha and Alesis which now they will take a big punch if they don't release major new things at Winter Namm 17, tech stuff tweak and vst was all there for years and not attractive for many, newbie and usual Edrum buyer on the market, don't explain them how to configure latency, install vst, sound cards, they are not on these world.

Remember sales are first priority for long time surviving, with easy to use, presentation easy approach worth 5x more then depth system with vst installation and configuring stuff, to the usual Newbie\Edrum consumer.
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: chris k on June 27, 2016, 10:10:56 PM
Speculation Warning!

I think the Pearl Mimic is just a dedicated Module/Computer with Slate 5 loaded. From this posted question and reply:

Is the library in the module a reduced or full version of SSD5?
" Full version except SSD5 has two stereo room mics, while in Mimic they are mixed in one stereo room mic."

I am guessing it is a slightly tweaked version of SSD5. So basically you have a kind of dedicated computer with one VST loaded.

We have our answer from the Lead programmer for the Mimic module.

"That is not a direct port of SSD4 or SSD5 sampler software to the MIMIC platform. The thing is that I'm the author of Steven Slate Trigger1 / Trigger 2 plugins, and SSD4 / SSD5 virtual instruments
So I just know how to write these kind of applications =)  The mimic software is written from ground up as it should be highly optimized for this particular platform. That is not something like VST instrument hosted on some VST host under windows We are going the hard way here =)"


Ps: I think a simple VST hosted with windows application in a module could have bad result, not optimized and possibility crash, freeze, not reliable and others issue can occur or they would to it right away and faster implementation, this is why they are not doing this way, if it was easy, every company would do it before, tablets, windows license and trigger together on the module, you could do it now from your own now.
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: KnipeDrums on June 28, 2016, 03:05:01 PM
I cant get past the open architecture versus open sounds. If you cant install your own sounds or another brand of sounds then you have to come to terms prior to purchase that your buying into this system and that this system has to have everything you want.

For me is there a 6,8,10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 18 and 20 inch toms to choose from. Probably not  imho....

I do love that there is a new sample based module on the market, heading in the right direction.

I just wish 2Box had more inputs. Not a big deal though really.
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: chris k on June 28, 2016, 04:18:38 PM
I cant get past the open architecture versus open sounds. If you cant install your own sounds or another brand of sounds then you have to come to terms prior to purchase that your buying into this system and that this system has to have everything you want.

For me is there a 6,8,10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 18 and 20 inch toms to choose from. Probably not  imho....

I do love that there is a new sample based module on the market, heading in the right direction.

I just wish 2Box had more inputs. Not a big deal though really.

The module is more target internal sound SSD4\SSD5 VST sound library and  expansion pack with time for now, and could accept others VST if they got authorization and the OK from others, the sound imports are limited to 1 shots samples, but not their final decision, still in development. But I would take this module before Roland\Yamaha, the module is ahead from them right now.


Future will change I am sure on Edrum.
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: JRage on June 29, 2016, 09:35:15 AM
Hi,

From my perspective I see IPS touchscreen rather as disadvantage.

Knob plus small, bright/high contrast screen obviously is much quicker solution for kit selection in a live performance than trying with sweaty fingers to move/repeatedly press on a small scrollbar on the side of the display.
Also, it seems there is some delay after pressing soft buttons on the screen of module.

16 outputs is a good selling point though.
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: chris k on June 29, 2016, 06:23:46 PM
Hi,

From my perspective I see IPS touchscreen rather as disadvantage.

Knob plus small, bright/high contrast screen obviously is much quicker solution for kit selection in a live performance than trying with sweaty fingers to move/repeatedly press on a small scrollbar on the side of the display.
Also, it seems there is some delay after pressing soft buttons on the screen of module.

16 outputs is a good selling point though.

I agree with the kits list a bit small, but the interface is not final everything is in development right now if you are not aware, already been stated need larger square button panel like kronos menu style..all feature are not final and precise.

For the bright/high contrast should have the control of it as preference like most module have anyway..

Thanks for these idea,  will reports to the developer to fix and make these change, if anyone have idea write them here.

Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: giusfre on June 29, 2016, 07:23:04 PM
16 input?....16 output?...60 GB hard drive (ssd?)...real drums multylayered samples?....all in a simple module ready to go? This is enough for any professional drummer or live sound engineer to call it like a dream come true!!!! I only hope there will be enough trigger parameters (roland td30 is the best) to tweek at the best any kind of pad; with 2Box I haven't found a way to use it live yet....roland is way better as feeling (even if sounds are way better the 2box)!
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: Jman on June 30, 2016, 04:02:57 AM
I only hope there will be enough trigger parameters (roland td30 is the best) to tweek at the best any kind of pad; with 2Box I haven't found a way to use it live yet....roland is way better as feeling (even if sounds are way better the 2box)!
Are you running the new OS 1.30? Because with the added trigger type choices and additional trigger parameters I don't see posts about problems running other brand pads much anymore.
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: chris k on June 30, 2016, 04:07:17 AM
16 input?....16 output?...60 GB hard drive (ssd?)...real drums multylayered samples?....all in a simple module ready to go? This is enough for any professional drummer or live sound engineer to call it like a dream come true!!!! I only hope there will be enough trigger parameters (roland td30 is the best) to tweek at the best any kind of pad; with 2Box I haven't found a way to use it live yet....roland is way better as feeling (even if sounds are way better the 2box)!

They said it will be compatible with most popular Edrum pad in the market.
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: ANGR77 on July 01, 2016, 03:39:40 AM
Hi!

I do like the Mimic approach and concept. I have played a lot with VST's on the stage before entering into 2box in an attempt to bring down the complexity a bit.

This would maybe bring me back to VST on stage again. On the other hand this is only a box based on Windows Embeded which has been locked down to a certain VST manufacturer. No big deal to do with an computer. I am also guessing it will be a nice price tag on it as well.

I really wonder what 2box (or even check what mr Deve) is coming up with in the next step? Feels more tempting to wait! And the current 2box is still delivering big time!

Angr77




Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: chris k on July 02, 2016, 01:17:53 AM
Hi!

I do like the Mimic approach and concept. I have played a lot with VST's on the stage before entering into 2box in an attempt to bring down the complexity a bit.

This would maybe bring me back to VST on stage again. On the other hand this is only a box based on Windows Embeded which has been locked down to a certain VST manufacturer. No big deal to do with an computer. I am also guessing it will be a nice price tag on it as well.

I really wonder what 2box (or even check what mr Deve) is coming up with in the next step? Feels more tempting to wait! And the current 2box is still delivering big time!



Angr77


Mr deve is no longer with 2box for a while, but something in the horizon as well from him, stay tuned!
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: giusfre on July 03, 2016, 03:01:21 PM
Are you running the new OS 1.30? Because with the added trigger type choices and additional trigger parameters I don't see posts about problems running other brand pads much anymore.

Yes...i'm running the latest software! Never been able to tweek hi hat and pads sounds different sound to sound, expecially for snares. I have both the TD30 and the 2Box module with two complete equal set of pads (drum-tec diablo...) but for live gigging I have to use the TD30 even if I like the 2Box sounds more than roland's! I use the 2Box only at home for practicing...I was thinking about using vst live but I don't like to use computers, audio interfaces, etc...so the new Pearl module seems to be just the ultimate solution for me!
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: chris k on July 11, 2016, 12:24:39 AM
SSD Drive is now 120GB instead of 60GB for the same price.
http://pearldrum.com/products/kits/electronic-drumsets/mimic-pro-module/
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: chris k on July 14, 2016, 02:14:41 AM
Another update, SSD5 will be included with the complete sound library and deep editing from the software, another thing, Toontrack, Fxpansion, Vdl2, Zildjian are already official sound partner with Pearl, since years.
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: puttenvr on July 28, 2016, 03:41:36 PM
I have discussed this before on some other forums, but this week I recieved an e-mail from PearlEurope that the Mimic Pro will not be available in this part of the world. Hence it is not listed on the European and Brasil part of their site. No further reasons were given, not even the possibility that Steven Slate organizes the distribution themselves.
Buying the module abroad (in the USA) is still an option. Perhaps you need a power converter for it. We will see.
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: dboomer on July 28, 2016, 04:18:12 PM
It may not be a distribution problem but something else.  They may have decided that the cost of procuring an agency approval of a power supply for those local markets may not justify expected sales in those markets.
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: cloudkicker on August 20, 2016, 09:30:05 AM
Just to make sure! I know it says midi in/out but will the mimic pro have midi in/out thru for the purpose of recording the module sounds and listen back to them as you normally would vst wise?
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: chris k on January 13, 2017, 09:39:20 AM
Update: MIMIC pro will have multi-layers users wav imports with editor, to imports sound from  VST's like with SDSE; BFD, TOONTRACK etc. also notice it's allow 16 triggers + 8 Instruments slots extra via midi module 24instruments, internal instruments are 8" to 18" toms size you can mix them and have like 7 toms if you want.

The editor might be not ready at release, but just after, also hi-hat might not be supported for editor at first, since it use proper HIHAT sample to use the new hihat MIMIC engine close to open full graduation not like any vst on the market.


All users imports instruments will use the internal editor and dsp engine, reverb, eq, compressor, (ADSR) attack, decay, sustain, release etc..for individual instruments.
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: puttenvr on January 14, 2017, 01:34:57 PM
Great module
But with the duty and taxes, shipping costs, etc it will be around 2600 euros
When not available in Europe in normal shops and ordered in US
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: espen on January 14, 2017, 03:35:08 PM
Compared to Roland TD50 module (https://www.thomann.de/fi/roland_td_50_drum_module.htm) no brainer, IMO.

Compared to 2Box, hmmm...
I definitely can see the advantages over 2Box module but the price is 150% higher.

Anyway, it really seems that Mimic is the best you can currently get in edrum world. I understand that it's worth buying for many edrummers.
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: chris k on January 14, 2017, 04:41:36 PM
Great module
But with the duty and taxes, shipping costs, etc it will be around 2600 euros
When not available in Europe in normal shops and ordered in US

it will be eventually in europe, drumtech will have some as exemple, just wait.. or if you have some freind in us or canada, they buy it for you and ship to europe :)
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: puttenvr on January 15, 2017, 12:36:25 AM
😀
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: chris k on January 19, 2017, 07:47:21 PM
its start to pan out, 2 track recorder as well, with new home page and multi-functionnal dial, ultra fast loading.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWBKMHp-Zd0
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: chris k on January 21, 2017, 08:30:51 AM
very impressive, all dynamic and subtle playing, with new hihat engine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWcDmvJQWXs
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: Digs on January 21, 2017, 09:42:55 AM
Sounds promising, any thoughts Jman?
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: Murgen on January 21, 2017, 02:09:25 PM
I hope Digital Drummer or another magazine can draw up a full comparison between the Mimic and the 2Box.

I'm very low on activity here because my 2Box/Gen16 is a great combination for my needs, the BFD2 samples on the SD-card are still holding up. Projects to create a fresh card with BFD2, BFD3 and the samples from other sources have been interrupted but hopefully I will be able to update all software and start again.

It is just that you only need a couple of kits to be happy :)

Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: chris k on January 21, 2017, 05:37:04 PM
Another one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFeGUpz9Y1U
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: Jman on January 21, 2017, 10:24:11 PM
Sounds promising, any thoughts Jman?
Well, in the price range I still see Nothing to rival the 2Box Drumit Five module. The Mimic Pro is very promising though. Sounds are very much on par with what I get from my 2Box and with the amount of inputs, outputs and a full on board "Studio" type mixing capability it is very potent. My main drawback at least at this point is being completely dependent on Pearl/Slate for additional sounds, be it paid or free. Currently the user sample import function will be One shot, with talk on multi layer capability in the future. J
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: hemiboy on January 22, 2017, 01:20:03 AM
Just watched Billy Cobham and Greg Bissonette playing Roland at Namm. What  super great players. Then I watched a couple of great players on mimic pro and I forgot about the 2 hall of famers that I had watched previously. The mimic sounded awesome. I was waiting  for the Alesis Strike Pro  and although not bad sounding to me, not a mimic or 2 box by a long shot. I sold my 2 box modules and at this point, unless I rent some space, I won't have a place for any kit. When I do , I will be looking at mimic and 2 box only.
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: edtc on January 22, 2017, 03:25:59 AM
I sold my 2 box modules and at this point, unless I rent some space, I won't have a place for any kit. 

AERODRUMS !!! ;)
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: hemiboy on January 22, 2017, 10:19:38 PM
I looked at them and the Freedrumz but I will get a climate control storage unit and another kit. I miss my kit
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: Travis182 on January 23, 2017, 10:40:38 AM
Just watched Billy Cobham and Greg Bissonette playing Roland at Namm. What  super great players. Then I watched a couple of great players on mimic pro and I forgot about the 2 hall of famers that I had watched previously. The mimic sounded awesome. I was waiting  for the Alesis Strike Pro  and although not bad sounding to me, not a mimic or 2 box by a long shot. I sold my 2 box modules and at this point, unless I rent some space, I won't have a place for any kit. When I do , I will be looking at mimic and 2 box only.

Are you talking about this video by any chance?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flbiIcYFF4Y

If so watch from about 19 minutes (no soundtracks being played too hiding the awful sound) and it sounds absolutely horrendous! I cannot and I state CANNOT believe people are paying $7000 for this thing! I actually think it's an embarrassment to be honest. I'm not overly familiar with Greggs playing if I'm honest but it's either that his playing is pretty damn terrible or the Roland kit is making him sound terrible and I think it could be the latter. Listen at 21.40..... What the hell is that. People need to stop falling for Rolands marketing man! Digital Snares and Rides don't mean diddly squat when a kit sounds that bad.

I think i'm just massively surprised that Roland are where they still are. Hats of to the likes of Pearl, ATV, 2Box and even Nfuzd for trying something new. I hope they succeed cause surely this can't keep going on. For all the magazine reviews of the TD 50 saying Roland has upped their game, This right here tells me magazine reviews are simply BS and those who are reviewing should not be.

On another note, The Mimmic sounds very good indeed and that's how a demo should be done.
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: redbull26 on January 23, 2017, 03:49:23 PM
Listen at 21.40..... What the hell is that. People need to stop falling for Rolands marketing man! Digital Snares and Rides don't mean diddly squat when a kit sounds that bad.

Wow your not kidding!  Those sounds are just... terrible.  This just reaffirms that I made the right decisions in buying a 2box module.  My entire Jobeky 2box kit will cost around the same as a TD50 brain... I guess some marketing hype is just that - hype.

Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: espen on January 23, 2017, 05:45:50 PM
First time I watched one minute was enough for me. Now I had to watch this 21.40 moment... LOL! :o ;D
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: Travis182 on January 23, 2017, 08:18:24 PM
First time I watched one minute was enough for me. Now I had to watch this 21.40 moment... LOL! :o ;D

 :D ;D ;D ;D hahahaha. Don't worry I didn't watch that whole thing, I skipped to see if it got any worse and low and behold it most certainly did! Watching the whole thing would have made my ears bleed.
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: hemiboy on January 24, 2017, 04:21:10 AM
Bisonnette is regarded by many as a talented drummer, but again, I don't question his ability in any way, as a matter of fact , he is a funny dude besides being a great drummer.   I just didn't care for the sound of the TD 50. I have heard it on many vids and just am not  feeling it. Still want to play and o hear it and tweak it in person.
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: chris k on January 25, 2017, 04:56:44 AM
Bisonnette is regarded by many as a talented drummer, but again, I don't question his ability in any way, as a matter of fact , he is a funny dude besides being a great drummer.   I just didn't care for the sound of the TD 50. I have heard it on many vids and just am not  feeling it. Still want to play and o hear it and tweak it in person.

I personally did try it, it does not came close to 2box again, their sound velocity number are limited and pretty strait sound, cymbal sound great, but its about this compare to vst.
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: chris k on February 02, 2017, 09:50:59 AM
Pearl MIMIC expected to be available in Europe as well, from digital drumming magazine page 25, reports from Winter Namm.
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: digitalDrummer on February 03, 2017, 02:12:55 AM
I saw all the new offerings in action at NAMM, but to be honest, the big guys didn't do themselves any favours with amplification. Alesis did a great job of pairing the kit with a speaker array that made your ribs rattle when they hit the bass drum.
The backing accompaniment for both the Pearl demo and the Roland was overpowering and I don't think the instruments were able to cut through sufficiently. I also watched very closely for mistriggering etc, which is not apparent in the videos, but certainly there is you knew what to look for.
And I didn't like the kit sounds they chose for Billy Cobham - especially the snare! However, the xstick and ride were sensational.
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: Jman on February 03, 2017, 02:22:31 AM
I saw all the new offerings in action at NAMM, but to be honest, the big guys didn't do themselves any favours with amplification. Alesis did a great job of pairing the kit with a speaker array that made your ribs rattle when they hit the bass drum.
The backing accompaniment for both the Pearl demo and the Roland was overpowering and I don't think the instruments were able to cut through sufficiently. I also watched very closely for mistriggering etc, which is not apparent in the videos, but certainly there is you knew what to look for.
And I didn't like the kit sounds they chose for Billy Cobham - especially the snare! However, the xstick and ride were sensational.
I agree 100%, I couldn't tell how good or bad the onboard sounds were especially when headphone options were not available for listening. And the TD-50 is definitely capable of better sounds than the Cobham kit sounds.
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: chris k on February 03, 2017, 03:58:09 AM
TD-50 sound better then Td-30, mostly the cymbal, but easy to recognize it's Roland sound with synth manipulation\ few layer. I wont see many going from 2box to td-50 or vst users to TD-50, there is pretty large difference on sound and the price.

As for mimic, will judge with final release version on the market, anything before are prototype and many factor is involved with software\hardware manipulation. I think there should be new demo with artist, probably like Dennis Chambers and other Pearl artist members soon, 2 owner of TD-50 was impressed with Pearl mimic at winter namm and actually played, one reported the sound was one of the best he ever heard on a VST library. From the sound video I heard even with compression, its sound like studio out of the box without time consuming tweak needed.
Title: Re: Pearl Mimic Pro
Post by: puttenvr on June 02, 2017, 07:21:01 PM
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