Hello,
I have a brend new Drumtit5 and I don't find any Cd's with any kind of software.
I connect to my Drumit5 in USB and the same no software exept sound directory, manual and OS .
Where Can I find the Soundeditor Software for mac or pc ?
Thank you for your help
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BIG EDIT BY OVER-ZEALOUS ADMIN:
Go here for the latest version of the Sound Editor (http://2box.se/Pages/kit-sound-editor.html)
(http://www.2box.se/Web_Pics/img-feature.png) (http://2box.se/Pages/kit-sound-editor.html)
Hi Mika,
The kit does indeed come without any software. The editor is currently in development and should be with us all soon.
Please have a browse through the current posts on the forum and also the DrumIt Five page over at www.2box.se
Thanks
Neil
Just wondering if there was any update in terms of the software editor...........
Would be good to know some sort of timings if at all possible :)
Cheers
Hi
some screenshots of the editor here (I hope that it's not an "April Fool" ;)):
http://img143.imageshack.us/i/2boxsoft2.jpg/ (http://img143.imageshack.us/i/2boxsoft2.jpg/)
http://img707.imageshack.us/i/2boxsoft1.jpg/ (http://img707.imageshack.us/i/2boxsoft1.jpg/)
(shots taken from here:
http://www.laboitenoiredumusicien.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4334 (http://www.laboitenoiredumusicien.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4334))
It's from a beta tester, he says
So I think it's serious
Software will be published within 10 days, he also says
It's April 15th!.... Where is the editor?
Well i mentioned it before, the communication of 2box isnt that good. I my humble opinion 2box has a debt to their buyers. They do 'sell' the editor already with their product but they do not deliver it. The least thing they can do is to come with a status update of the developments.
Im still waiting to see what 2box is up to and when they deliver the already expected (and promised) updates.
And yeah im very keen on these things.. :P
Quote from: WalterH on April 16, 2010, 09:31:58 AM
Well i mentioned it before, the communication of 2box isnt that good. I my humble opinion 2box has a debt to their buyers. They do 'sell' the editor already with their product but they do not deliver it. The least thing they can do is to come with a status update of the developments.
Im still waiting to see what 2box is up to and when they deliver the already expected (and promised) updates.
And yeah im very keen on these things.. :P
They have however made more fixed to the next update, like the new cymbal method. Proberly more fixes had to be done than they thought! ;)
..still a few updates from 2box "every now and then" would keep everybody at peace, i guess.
Quote from: Dagger on April 16, 2010, 11:20:48 AM
..still a few updates from 2box "every now and then" would keep everybody at peace, i guess.
Yeah =/
True... and i don't want to flame, but like everyone im also waiting very long to see this develop... and i'm very inpatient ... no offence meant. :P ;) :)
Quote from: WalterH on April 16, 2010, 01:50:33 PM
True... and i don't want to flame, but like everyone im also waiting very long to see this develop... and i'm very inpatient ... no offence ment. :P ;) :)
I understand people are looking forward to the editor, but I'm much happier that 2Box are releasing O/S updates (3 or 4 now in the last 8 months or so?) to make the kit play better - I'd much rather that than the software editor because you can already copy samples and songs onto the module.
The editor will come when its ready...saying you're not happy because its a bit late doesn't make it come quicker...
a bit late?
please have a look at the date of this article
http://www.soundonsound.com/news?NewsID=9902
Quote from: WalterH on April 16, 2010, 09:31:58 AM
Well i mentioned it before, the communication of 2box isnt that good.
Yes. Sure.
But there are companies with hundreds of employees which don't even communicate a single word with their customers. I always got reply from Bengt and Deve Lopper is among us on this forum. Hello Roland. Hello Yamaha ...
Quote from: puttenvr on April 16, 2010, 05:13:35 PM
Yes. Sure.
But there are companies with hundreds of employees which don't even communicate a single word with their customers. I always got reply from Bengt and Deve Lopper is among us on this forum. Hello Roland. Hello Yamaha ...
Maybe you always got an answer but for example my questions about the dsnd-file-format have never been answered. Not even a reason why the don't want to release the specs. Contrary to yamaha and roland 2Box sells a software which they dont't deliver for months now. In my opinion this is just a deception.
Meanwhile I don't believe 2Box that they are working on the editor. Louis needed about 2 weeks to release a first version of his editor including the reverse engineering of the sound format. And 2 more weeks later, maybe with some support from 2Box, he released version 1.0.
Until now i couldn't read a credible explanation why 2Box needs many months to do the same.
Manfred
Because they work on so many other things as well
With only 2 peeps
Quote from: puttenvr on April 17, 2010, 10:29:36 AM
Because they work on so many other things as well
With only 2 peeps
That is not a good reason for advertising features they are not able to deliver for a long time. And if they are short on resources they could think about outsourcing. There are many companys or freelancers that could do the job. Or they could ask Louis if he would sell the rights of his tool to them. Maby he would also adapt it to the requirements and ideas 2Box has.
yes, i can understand that it is frustrating, but 2Box is definitely working on an editor.
Quote from: Manfred on April 17, 2010, 10:42:30 AM
That is not a good reason for advertising features they are not able to deliver for a long time. And if they are short on resources they could think about outsourcing. There are many companys or freelancers that could do the job. Or they could ask Louis if he would sell the rights of his tool to them. Maby he would also adapt it to the requirements and ideas 2Box has.
Valid points.
I think Louis should be given the shot to complete the"official" 2Box editor. He's done a tremendous job so far even without having prior knowledge to the operating system.
Quote from: Calimero on April 16, 2010, 04:21:59 PM
a bit late?
please have a look at the date of this article
http://www.soundonsound.com/news?NewsID=9902
But this was before the kit released. So it means nothing. What matters is what we were told when we purchased the kit - 2Box have already told us the editor is coming but has been delayed - why can you not just accept this and wait? Why are you getting so worked up? It'll be ready when it's ready...
Quote from: Manfred on April 17, 2010, 09:58:19 AM
Meanwhile I don't believe 2Box that they are working on the editor. Louis needed about 2 weeks to release a first version of his editor including the reverse engineering of the sound format. And 2 more weeks later, maybe with some support from 2Box, he released version 1.0.
Until now i couldn't read a credible explanation why 2Box needs many months to do the same.
Manfred
Manfred why are you comparing how long it takes to make these two pieces of software? You are assuming that the features provided by Louis' sound tool editor (good job Louis by the way) are equal to the features that the 2Box editor will have. And of course, that cannot be done as noone has used it yet. This is by no means an attack on dsoundtool, because I haven't used it and I don't know how many features it has, but I'd be willing to bet Dsoundtool does not have a GUI with the ability to drag and drop files onto seperate pads direct into the kit.
I would say that the 2Box software will most likely have far more features than dsoundtool offers, and therefore will be more complex to develop, hence it will take longer to write, especially if its being written by 1 or 2 people - but again we don't know how many people are working on it really, so please people, lets just wait for it.
Your point that it is not good to advertise features that are not available at the time of sale, I would agree with of course. They should make it clear to new buyers that the tool is not ready yet, as they have already done this here on the forum.
Quote from: Baby Samus on April 21, 2010, 10:52:18 PM
Manfred why are you comparing how long it takes to make these two pieces of software?
I think because it has been one of the biggest sales agrument of the 2box.Many have bought the kit just for that reason.after having to wait a long time to get the kit in the first place,it is another long wait to get the kit in working order as it was told to be.Here on the messe of 2008 it is 2box itselve that talks about the editor and the use of usb and software to edit the sounds.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IGdJzjq5Vg
I dont understand that you can't see that if someone bought a kit they would get frustrated to see that after buying a kit in the shop ( so not as a prototype) the updates and software to get the kit working as advertised gets delayed over and over again.It is one thing to wait for the kit to be released,it is an another thing to wait for something after you spent your money and get the kit in full working order.
Quote from: Calimero on April 22, 2010, 09:54:44 AM
I think because it has been one of the biggest sales agrument of the 2box.Many have bought the kit just for that reason.after having to wait a long time to get the kit in the first place,it is another long wait to get the kit in working order as it was told to be.Here on the messe of 2008 it is 2box itselve that talks about the editor and the use of usb and software to edit the sounds.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IGdJzjq5Vg
I dont understand that you can't see that if someone bought a kit they would get frustrated to see that after buying a kit in the shop ( so not as a prototype) the updates and software to get the kit working as advertised gets delayed over and over again.It is one thing to wait for the kit to be released,it is an another thing to wait for something after you spent your money and get the kit in full working order.
We all understand that the editor has been delayed - 2Box have told us already, so we know its coming quite soon. Complaining on a forum won't make the software come any quicker.
Also, the kit was NOT RELEASED IN 2008!! Can't you see that you cannot make complaints about a product that was NOT OUT at the time that article was written? They hadn't even finished the kit or software then, never mind the editor so please stop mentioning that. The kit has been out for LESS THAN ONE YEAR, and they have already released 2 hardware revisions and 4 software updates. You might think that is no good, but for a new small company with limited resources, I think its excellent and the situation can only improve.
Calimero, you have a choice. Sit and be frustrated and post negativity, or just wait. Whats the point in getting annoyed? It doesn't help anyone and it doesn't change when the software will be out.
Hi Baby Samus,
in january deve loper announced the release for mid of march. Now it is end of april and there is neither the editor nor an explanation for the delay nor a new release date. At the homepage they are still advertising this feature and for many people it is one of the main reasons to buy this kit.
We dont't now if the editor is coming quite soon and we don't now anything about the features. I dont't compare two editors because there is only one. Louis released a working editor with a GUI and 2Box didn't release anything, not even a command line tool.
I had to pay the full price for the kit and thats one simple reason why i want to use all the advertised features. There are more than 50GB of drum samples on my harddisk and there is no way to use them except for buying Louis' tool.
Manfred
Please share that 50GB of samples with us
Would ease the pain 8)
Quote from: puttenvr on April 22, 2010, 06:30:24 PM
Please share that 50GB of samples with us
Would ease the pain 8)
Yeah! Go on Manny, share the wealth!
Hehe, i'm afraid toontracks legal department would send me some "polite" letters if i share samples. But if you fund 209,- Euro you can get one of these sets:
http://www.musicstore.de/de_DE/EUR/_SET_-Toontrack-Superior-Drummer-2.0-SDX-Metal-Foundry/art-PCM146
or
http://www.musicstore.de/de_DE/EUR/_SET_-Toontrack-Superior-Drummer-2.0-SDX-The-Lost-New-York-Studio/art-PCM147
or
http://www.musicstore.de/de_DE/EUR/_SET_-Toontrack-Superior-Drummer-2.0-SDX-Custom-and-Vintage/art-PCM145
But i wonder if it is prohibited to make a soundtrack with some single hits and store it in a wav-file. Finally i can't control what others would do with that track.....
The site is updated at this moment
wow.... wow... wow.... exciting
Quote from: puttenvr on April 23, 2010, 02:23:42 PM
wow.... wow... wow.... exciting
Really exciting, i hope i have been wrong when i supposed that they aren't working on the editor!
Quote from: Manfred on April 23, 2010, 03:11:33 PM
Really exciting, i hope i have been wrong when i supposed that they aren't working on the editor!
You don't need to hope Manfred...of course they have been working on it - the alternative is that they are lying to all their customers, and I know which one is more likely. Thats not to say that this site update will definitely include the editor, but it might. I reckon more likely we'll see O/S 1.05, and maybe a few more samples.
Quote from: puttenvr on April 23, 2010, 02:23:42 PM
The site is updated at this moment
wow.... wow... wow.... exciting
Still updating!! ??
It probably takes some time ....
Quote from: Baby Samus on April 23, 2010, 05:00:33 PM
You don't need to hope Manfred...of course they have been working on it - the alternative is that they are lying to all their customers, and I know which one is more likely.
i don't know whether it is ready for general release yet, but as i have stated before, there definitely (100%) is an editor in progress...
NOW!
So we have a beta version of the software, excellent. Can't believe some people thought that they weren't working on this...now all we need is the next O/S to hopefully fix the cymbal triggering etc. Good stuff 2Box. Will test as soon as I have the chance...
easy browsing system, good looks.
how do I remove a sound from a pad again to leave it blank?
(http://www.2box.se/Web_Pics/img-feature.png) (http://2box.se/Pages/kit-sound-editor.html)
So here it is. The long awaited software editor. Thought I start a new topic about it (since we now WHERE to download it (http://2box.se/Pages/kit-sound-editor.html)).
What are your thoughts?
How does it look?
Did you make any sounds?
R there any bugz?
edit: Putt I've added the link and deleted my post - sorry to intrude :) cheers, UC
- It's a very easy and user friendly program.
- You can't edit excisting dsnd files
I feel that now 2Box can be a killer for the market with this editor with huge possibilities of sounds!! Great!
if you are doing lots of kit editing, it's worthwhile transferring all the sounds from the drum module to your computer first (although it takes hours because of the USB 1.1 connection)...
that way sounds load much faster, and you can work on kits without being connected to the 2Box module.
What I miss is that I want to have a equalizer into the program to easy adjust the sounds for me.
Cant wait to try this...
Has anyone tried this editor with VST instruments like Superior Drummer 2.0? If so how did you go about it and how did you obtain the samples you require for the editor? Can you use them together or do you need to create the samples from SD2.0 before using the editor?
you need to copy the wave sample files and build kits using them. you get to decide how many layers of multisamples to use.
and of course the samples need to be copied onto the DrumIt Five module. remember that there isn't much free space on the module, so you may need to remove some existing samples first if you intend to build new mega-kits...
Quote from: ncwilliamsuk on April 24, 2010, 08:23:11 AM
Cant wait to try this...
Has anyone tried this editor with VST instruments like Superior Drummer 2.0?
I think those programs use propietaire sound formats which can't be used as long as 2Box doesn't make a covenant with the owners
Quote from: fishmonkey on April 24, 2010, 08:48:55 AM
. remember that there isn't much free space on the module, so you may need to remove some existing samples first if you intend to build new mega-kits...
You can remove some of the songs and dsnd files you never use
Quote from: puttenvr on April 24, 2010, 09:05:19 AM
I think those programs use propietaire sound formats which can't be used as long as 2Box doesn't make a covenant with the owners
actually i don't know what file format Toontrack uses, but the BFD samples definitely are wave files...
unfortunately sd2.0 use their own format. Is there a good way to sample 128 variations of a drum (or sd2.0 instrument) to create the wav files to put into the editor?
Is there possibly a way to integrate the two? I think you could do that on the sound editor kindly created a few months ago.
well, you could create a MIDI file with the same kit piece played at 128 different velocities, then record to audio and slice it...
not my idea of a good time!
Please continue here
http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php/topic,351.0.html
Hey Fishmonkey,
Use, DSound tool provided by Louis ...it does just what you need to do and automatically. It also does all 3 cymbal trigger zones.
Hi,
at first I have to apologize that i supposed 2Box isn't working on the editor. I'm very glad that i have been wrong. Could only test it for a short time but these are my first impressions:
pro:
+ easy editing of kits
+ pre-listen to the sounds and kits
+ easy editing of balance, volume and tune
con:
- samples need to be in many single files
- only single-zone sounds
- no interaction with superior drummer
My first impression is that the kit-editor is pretty good and that there is some work to do on the sound-editor. But hence it is a beta-version its ok. Most important is that there is a editor available.
Manfred
Why just superior drums? I want addictive drums!
Quote from: hwasser on April 24, 2010, 02:33:45 PM
Why just superior drums? I want addictive drums!
Hehe, thats just my whish list because i own Superior drummer with the Metal Foundry. Of course i don't mind if the editor also supports BFD, Addictive drums and so on.
Hey people, I tried merging the editor threads thread using the my magic admin powers, and it looks like it's even more confusing than before.
Really sorry about that. Won't do it again.
*hangs head in shame*
Quote from: UC on April 24, 2010, 11:57:07 PM
, and it looks like it's even more confusing than before.
That's because you and I link the image to the frontpage on www.2box.se, while the editor wasn't even born at the time this thread started ;D
Hello,
So I'm trying to recreate a bass drum sound, using my recording from my acoustic drum. If I well understood, if I want 50 velocities, I need to create 50 different wave files, one for each velocity and add all of them when I need to choose the files.
The problem is I can't even drag one file, since the software systematically crashes. Is it the same issue for you ? Have you tried to drag some wave files ? Did I do something wrong ?
Thanks for your help.
Dragging some wav files is no problem for me
BUT: i tried to make a dsnd file.
I saved it and when I listened to it, it sounded a bit like micky mouse
I guess it wasn't a 44hz 16 bit wav file
Will do another attempt soon
Hey Mandubien
What's your operating system (including service packs)?
Quote from: UC on April 26, 2010, 08:14:45 PM
Hey Mandubien
What's your operating system (including service packs)?
Mac Snow Leopard version 10.6.3
Got to admit I've only played with the Windows one.
Do you get any other symptoms? Error messages, window just disappears, computer freeze?
Quote from: UC on April 26, 2010, 10:05:53 PM
Got to admit I've only played with the Windows one.
Do you get any other symptoms? Error messages, window just disappears, computer freeze?
Only this issue when I try to add a wave file : the software freezes for 3 seconds then crashes and window simply disappear. All other functions are ok.
I know it's a beta version, that's why I'm reporting these issues. We all should do the same to improve the editor.
By the way, I think it's a good idea to open a new thread where people can say what they would like to have for the next version of the sotware. Just like we do for the brain.
Cheers.
everything works fine here, dragging wavs, then using the sound in 2box...just don't like the programm to decide the velocity-layers for me!!
Quote from: hwasser on April 24, 2010, 02:33:45 PM
Why just superior drums? I want addictive drums!
another thumb for superior here! :P
Please tell me http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php/topic,362.0.html (http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php/topic,362.0.html)
Quote from: puttenvr on April 28, 2010, 05:15:49 AM
Please tell me http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php/topic,362.0.html (http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php/topic,362.0.html)
Well, i think we are talking about two different options:
- use Superior/BFD/AD-Sounds at the 2Box-Brain (without a PC)
- use 2Box-Sounds at your PC as Virtual Instrument (without 2Box-Brain)
I don't care about the second option. But the first is very interesting for me. It is not easy to record a drum kit with high quality but it is easy to buy SD/BFD/AD. So for me this software is the only way to get high quality samples to create new sounds for my 2Box-Brain.
At this time i have to create Midi-Tracks with single hits, play them with SD and bounce the audio-output in a wav file. After that i have to repeat the procedure many times with different velocities. Next step is to create a dsnd-file out of these wav-files with the 2Box-editor. This is a pretty complicated way to create new sounds.
I hope there will be a easier way in the near future. With Louis' editor for example you can create Midifiles with multiple hits. Afterwards you can use a single wav-file that contains many samples to create a dsnd-file. From this point of view Louis editor is more comfortable. Import SD-sounds directly into the 2Box-editor would be the optimum.
Currently the 2Box editor is good to edit drum kits but not very good for new sounds.
Manfred
Quote from: Manfred on April 28, 2010, 04:59:11 PM
...
I hope there will be a easier way in the near future. With Louis' editor for example you can create Midifiles with multiple hits. Afterwards you can use a single wav-file that contains many samples to create a dsnd-file. From this point of view Louis editor is more comfortable. Import SD-sounds directly into the 2Box-editor would be the optimum.
Currently the 2Box editor is good to edit drum kits but not very good for new sounds.
Manfred
The most user friendly way that I could think of to collect sounds from a VST would be if the sound editor could act as VST host. Then you could start Superior Drummer (or other VSTi-s) from the sound editor, configure the SD drums as you want them, and then, in the sound editor, select for instance "generate the snare for me". The sound editor would then automatically feed the VSTi with midi notes for snare sounds, record the wave file and save the result as a dsnd file.
However this was too much work for me to implement in DSoundTool. But perhaps an idea for the 2box sound editor?
Louis
I was hoping that I would be able to get like a Superior Drummer/BFD kit in to the drumit five but presume that's not possible. I suppose you can buy a kit like BFD and use the drumit, but the Mac would also have to be at my side.
I was hoping also that maybe we could have got the Ddrum 4 sounds somehow in there, because some of them kits were awesome even if they are 15 years old!
there is some info about using BFD2 samples in the 2Box brain here:
http://www.2box-forum.com/resources/
even without the special "mixdown" mode mentioned, it is reasonably straightforward to import the raw BFD samples as they are stored as wave files...
Quote from: tim1987 on April 29, 2010, 09:20:53 AM
I was hoping also that maybe we could have got the Ddrum 4 sounds somehow in there, because some of them kits were awesome even if they are 15 years old!
It would be great to get higher-res files - I'm guessing those barbarians at Armadillo (or maybe Clavia) still hold the keys to them though :(
I was hoping that Toontrack would work. I want the EZ drummer and jazz pack. If had the computer next to me, would that work then, with the module?
I'm a newbie at this, but the virtual instruments seem to be the way to go as the sounds are so good, I was hoping that I would be able to get the toontrack sounds into the module, as this would save me taking a computer around with me everywhere, which was one of the main reasons I bought a 2box.
I have tried out a demo of addictive drummer and believe it or not, the drumit sounds better. I had it coming through a monitor and the snare and toms really cut through.
I'd want a jazz kit, but it's annoying that with these programs like EZ or Addictive, you have to have a separate program to play it, which means spending more money on something you're not going to use.
Quote from: tim1987 on April 29, 2010, 12:26:22 PM
I was hoping that Toontrack would work. I want the EZ drummer and jazz pack.
It is already possible to use toontrack sounds with the 2Box-brain. But its not very comfortable to create the sound-files. Just use a Midi file, play it with your toontrack software and record the audio output in an wav file. With these wave files you can create a dsnd-file and copy it to the brain. Thats it.
Of course you can also connect your module to your computer. But then you always need your computer while playing drums. This can also be done with a cheap megadrum-module. The big advantage the 2Box-brain offers is that you can edit sounds and copy them into the module.
Do you think it would be possible to get the expansion packs into the module without the need for the main program. I.e. buying the jazz and funk addictive packs, but not getting addictive drummer as I'm not bothered for them sounds.
Has anyone tried addictive with the 2 box?
Update: Had a reply from XLN Audio to say that addictive isn't compatible. This is so frustrating as I thought it would be easy to transfer samples to the 2box.
I have logic on my mac, so how if I got toontrack- how would I get a wav file from the ez files?
Thanks
unless you can find a way to convert the proprietary sample formats into wave files, then your only option is to record the drum software playing the sounds, and then build your own multisamples...
Quote from: fishmonkey on April 30, 2010, 02:26:08 PM
unless you can find a way to convert the proprietary sample formats into wave files, then your only option is to record the drum software playing the sounds, and then build your own multisamples...
I know that VLC can read dnsd files and convert them to wave files. Maybe it can also read other proprietary formats.
If someone wants to send me a sample, I can try.
Addictive drummer is a file called xpak, and they say you can't convert into a wav file, and thats the program I want.
It's just not practical to take a laptop out everytime you play live, so I was hoping the 2box would provide the solution.
Quote from: tim1987 on April 30, 2010, 06:08:11 PM
Addictive drummer is a file called xpak, and they say you can't convert into a wav file, and thats the program I want.
It's just not practical to take a laptop out everytime you play live, so I was hoping the 2box would provide the solution.
Sorry but i don't know what your problem is. As mentioned before it is already possible to create sounds you can use at the 2Box-module and you don't need to take a laptop everytime you play. Logic is an officially host for Addictive drums so you can use it to record wav files. The only problem is that it is not very comfortable. But it works.
Sorry, it's just that XLN have said it would not be possible to put the addictive samples into the 2 box.
But if I use Logic, then I will be able to try and get it in by recording wavs's of each drum/cymbal? I wish I was more of computer techie! I need to learn more about Logic as I have only just got it.
I have the demo of addictive so may have a go at that, and see how it works.
Is there a linux version for the software editor??? As I will eb using this with ubuntu and ardour for recording via midi??
If someone could let me know.
Thanks
Quote from: kunkyape on April 30, 2010, 07:24:07 PM
Is there a linux version for the software editor??? As I will eb using this with ubuntu and ardour for recording via midi??
If someone could let me know.
Thanks
As far as i know there is no linux version. But it runs with wine and of course with windows on a virtual machine. I tried both.
But i don't understand how you want to use ardour in combination with the 2box editor?!
PS. Louis editor also works with linux since it is a java application
Sweet, thanks for the heads up. I wouldnt use them both in conjunction with each other it is just i have a netbook in the living room and another laptop running linux in my music room so good just to have all my music programs on that laptop!
By the way, got my smart trigger cymbals which work well, so its all good in the hood!
:drum2:
Hello,
does anybody have an idea when we will see the (almost) final version of the editor? Since the beta version can only create single zone sounds and needs separate files for each hit it is not very useful. Do we have to wait several more months or will it be available in the near future?
Manfred
Uhh??
The 2Box uses different velocity layers at this moment. No different (position) zones, so why should the editor support this?
And how can we make a multi layered sound without using separate files?
Quote from: puttenvr on June 10, 2010, 01:48:08 PM
The 2Box uses different velocity layers at this moment. No different (position) zones, so why should the editor support this?
The cymbals have three zones but with the 2Box-editor you can only create single-zone-sounds-files. Some snare-sounds for example also include sounds for pad and rim in one file. At the pads it is no problem because you can assign two separate sound files to pad and rim. But at the cymbals it is not possible to assign different files to different zones. Thats why the editor should support this.
Quote from: puttenvr on June 10, 2010, 01:48:08 PM
And how can we make a multi layered sound without using separate files?
With the 2Box editor you need a single wav-file for each hit. So if you want to create a sound with 80 velocity layers you need 80 wav files. With Louis' editor you can have all 80 sounds in one file as long as there is one second silence between the hits. Thats much more comfortable.
Manfred
Okay
Now I understand
Quote from: Manfred on June 10, 2010, 02:24:52 PM
Hi !
After using both programs for a while a suggestion/question popped up in my head:
Instaed of shifting the balance of the three zones on the ride cymbal in the program, would it be possible to do that zone-mixing in the 2box module instead while you are sitting at the kit ?
Love Steven Slte sounds in my 2box. As a newborn kid again. Life is fun when playing now !
Claes
The cymbals have three zones but with the 2Box-editor you can only create single-zone-sounds-files. Some snare-sounds for example also include sounds for pad and rim in one file. At the pads it is no problem because you can assign two separate sound files to pad and rim. But at the cymbals it is not possible to assign different files to different zones. Thats why the editor should support this.
With the 2Box editor you need a single wav-file for each hit. So if you want to create a sound with 80 velocity layers you need 80 wav files. With Louis' editor you can have all 80 sounds in one file as long as there is one second silence between the hits. Thats much more comfortable.
Manfred
So whats the deal with you sharing your sounds? Did you find out if its okay?
Quote from: Baby Samus on June 10, 2010, 09:11:55 PM
So whats the deal with you sharing your sounds? Did you find out if its okay?
I read the EULA that comes with SD and it says:
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You may not rent, sell, lease or lend, the Product. You may not modify or create derivative works based on the Product in whole in part. You may not permit third parties to benefit from the use of functionality of the Product through a timesharing, service bureau or other arrangement.
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You may only use the Product only for the purpose of composing musical arrangements and giving live performances.
I'm not a lawyer but i guess its not allowed to share 2Box-sounds that are created out of SD-sounds except you define them as a "musical arrangement". Maybe it is not even allowed to create a dsnd-file for yourself although you bought the software ???
i think you'll find similar restrictions with almost all sample packs, not just drum ones.
Hi !
I am still working with the huge project of converting all the 50 Steven slate kits for my own use.
I guess it is not ok to put them out here for everybody but on the other hand I have not got time yet to find out. Keep you all posted when i have the latest info.
Claes
Quote from: Baby Samus on June 10, 2010, 09:11:55 PM
So whats the deal with you sharing your sounds? Did you find out if its okay?
Hi !
Well that wqas not my question.
I am using Dsoundtool and not the 2box editor and there you can afterwards change the balance of the three zones on a ride cymbal. So my hopes for the 2box editor is to finally when it is officially released you can do what I am sking for: Change the zones on each pad/cymbal In the module and not only in the editor program.
Is that possible ??
Best Regards !
Claes
Quote from: claes1965 on June 10, 2010, 08:11:01 PM
it is a feature that will definitely appear sometime. whether in the next release i don't know.
hello everyone!
i got a new drumit 5 unit and want to connect it to my mac (snowleopard). i can connect it via usb and have the unit as an external usb-volume in my finder. when i start the editor, it asks me for the drumit.dkit file but when i go to the drumit5-volume and choose this file there is an error report "couldn´t load file" and the program shuts down.
does anyone of you have already fixed this problem?
thx in advance
giovanni
Quote from: giovannipronto on July 22, 2010, 04:36:32 PM
when i start the editor, it asks me for the drumit.dkit file but when i go to the drumit5-volume and choose this file there is an error report "couldn´t load file" and the program shuts down.
does anyone of you have already fixed this problem?
giovanni
Hi Gio,
Make sure you have the latest version of the O/S. I had written that you should replace the .dkit file but am modifying this after checking the website...
Important Information
The DrumIt editor 0.9.16 beta is NOT compatible with the 1.10 DrumIt.dkit file. You can still use your own DrumIt.dkit file after you have installed OS 1.10, the beta editor can read it as long as you don't save any changes. When unit or kit settings are saved with OS 1.10, the version of the saved settings will become 1.10. The editor 1.0 release version will be able to read any dkit version.
The sounds made with the beta editor are compatible with OS 1.10. However, the editor has to load a valid dkit file to start ( this too will be fixed ). So before updating to OS 1.10, connect the DrumIt Five in USB mode, copy your existing DrumIt.dkit file to DrumItOld.dkit or download the old file here and select that file when starting the editor. You can also put the old dkit file in any folder you like on your computer's hard disk, so you can start the editor without DrumIt in USB mode and select the dkit file from that local folder ( the editor will detect that the sound files are not there but just click ok
he baby samus,
thx for the fast answer! i think i´ll wait until the 1.0 version is out. without the possibility to save the settings it does not make sense for me.
and by the way...is there somewhere a wish-list for future improvements of the unit software? i would have some wishes in puncto midi-perfomance...
greets
giovanni
Quotethere somewhere a wish-list for future improvements of the unit software?
yes, this one
http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php/topic,287.0.html
Any news here? Will we ever see a usable sound editor?
Are there any improvements in 1.0.1 over the 1.0 version?
Because the mac version is still 1.0 whereas the windows version is 1.0.1...
Don't tell me is just 1/100 ::)
I have recently bought a used 2Box, and I have succeeded in connecting it to the Sound editor Software. But I cannot find the drumit.dkit file in the editor (as described in the manual), I can just see the different sound maps. But in my windows explorer I can see the drumit.dkit file on my 2Box, together with the manual and some other files. Will the editor work even if I cannot find the drumit.dkit file, or may I mess up something without this file?
I am now copying all of the files to my computer as a backup.
I have only briefly tested the 2Box Sound Editor before today. I didn't bother at all with the Editor before this new version 1.02 ..... I have to say that it has saved me quite a bit of time today. I like it!
I needed to change a lot of instruments around as I have added the 2nd 2Box module and the instruments are all a little different than I am using on the other module ... I went through the first 12 kits today, reassigned instruments, re-tuned, re-panned, changed volumes, etc .... and it was all very simple, considerably faster than doing it while sitting at the module ...
This was all done with my 2Box SD card plugged into my PC card reader ... after making all the changes, I just clicked save kit bank ... and whoalla, my kits were all setup on the card. Nice job on the Sound editor software, great tool ..... Jerry
hi...
I'm trying to convert wave files with the sound editor, but it is'nt possible to drag the file into the pad symbol. I even try it with the Test Samples from 2box site.
(I'm using windows 7 64 bit) and I realy need help.
thank u...
Quote from: shaike on September 29, 2011, 10:13:50 PM
hi...
I'm trying to convert wave files with the sound editor, but it is'nt possible to drag the file into the pad symbol. I even try it with the Test Samples from 2box site.
(I'm using windows 7 64 bit) and I realy need help.
thank u...
Maybe someone who has built dsnds from waves using the 2Box sound editior can help you. Personally I use DSoundTool for building my dsnds and it works great:
http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php/topic,907.0.html